But, speaking of Jacobs Well, there is a grand opening ceremony tomorrow
(Saturday). Some of you Austin area folks might know that Jacobs Well was
saved from development by a generous contribution from a local family. It is
now a Hays County Park. We will be there and hope to see some of our
You could say that the article mentions 3 Texas cavers since Pseudouroctonus
reddelli is undoubtedly named after legendary UT caver and entomologist
James Reddell.
... Sam
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From: David
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 1:41 AM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers]
Andy, please get in touch with me. Sam Young
Does someone have a valid e-mail address for Chris? Sam
I got it. Thanks, .. Sam
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_County,_Texas
. Sam
Fritz Holt asked: By the way, can anyone tell me a brand of gasoline or a
retail distributor that does not have ethanol in the product?
Here is a list of the stations in Texas which have ethanol-free gas. Alas, you
will notice that there are no large Texas cities in the list:
Entomologists are doing flips over that spider that was found in an Oregon
cave. Here is another article with pictures:
http://bit.ly/N67j6d
Sam
I loved your dissertation about carbide caving Carl. And this whole discussion
about carbide has been a kick. Oh yes, the first time I went caving with a
British guy, a “potholer”, he kept asking if anyone wanted to borrow his prick.
I am reminded of a time when I was on the campus of the
As usual, there will be recycling containers for aluminum cans and plastic
bottles. Two will be near the cook’s camp. I will need to get home by noon
Sunday (company coming) and so please do not wait too late Sunday morning to
get your recyclables together. .. Sam
A new species of psocid from Texas caves has recently been described based on
specimens in the Texas Memorial Invertebrate Zoological Collection. It is
Psyllipsocus subterraneus Mockford. The holotype male was collected at Up the
Creek Cave (Bexar Co.) by K. McDermid on 10/22/2008; the
I learned yesterday of the death of Roger Sorrells. Roger was a very active
caver in Texas beginning in the late 50’s. He is mentioned several times in
“Fifty Years of Texas Caving”. You can find the obituary here:
From News of the Weird May 22, 2011:
Wh!
In March, in Pierce County, Wash., a sewer worker, 37, came loose from a safety
line and slid about 3,000 feet through a 6-foot-diameter sewer pipe at the
Chambers Creek Wastewater Treatment Plant. He could have drowned, according
to one rescuer,
A friend of mine in Birmingham, a photographer but not a caver, sent me this
Flickr link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/realms_of_reality/
Does anyone know Nathan Williams? He does some very good cave photography. My
wife Diane says that she remembers going through Tumbling Rock cave. It is
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_County,_Texas
. Sam
Fritz Holt asked: By the way, can anyone tell me a brand of gasoline or a
retail distributor that does not have ethanol in the product?
Here is a list of the stations in Texas which have ethanol-free gas. Alas, you
will notice that there are no large Texas cities in the list:
Entomologists are doing flips over that spider that was found in an Oregon
cave. Here is another article with pictures:
http://bit.ly/N67j6d
Sam
I loved your dissertation about carbide caving Carl. And this whole discussion
about carbide has been a kick. Oh yes, the first time I went caving with a
British guy, a “potholer”, he kept asking if anyone wanted to borrow his prick.
I am reminded of a time when I was on the campus of the
Some health problems will limit my participation at TCR this year. I might be
able to visit some on Saturday but I regret that I can not do the recycling
this year. The containers are in my carport and if anyone would like to pick
them up and take them to the campground, please contact me.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-scientists-deepest-terrestrial-arthropod.html
As usual, there will be recycling containers for aluminum cans and plastic
bottles. Two will be near the cook’s camp. I will need to get home by noon
Sunday (company coming) and so please do not wait too late Sunday morning to
get your recyclables together. .. Sam
A new species of psocid from Texas caves has recently been described based on
specimens in the Texas Memorial Invertebrate Zoological Collection. It is
Psyllipsocus subterraneus Mockford. The holotype male was collected at Up the
Creek Cave (Bexar Co.) by K. McDermid on 10/22/2008; the
I learned yesterday of the death of Roger Sorrells. Roger was a very active
caver in Texas beginning in the late 50’s. He is mentioned several times in
“Fifty Years of Texas Caving”. You can find the obituary here:
From News of the Weird May 22, 2011:
Wh!
In March, in Pierce County, Wash., a sewer worker, 37, came loose from a safety
line and slid about 3,000 feet through a 6-foot-diameter sewer pipe at the
Chambers Creek Wastewater Treatment Plant. He could have drowned, according
to one rescuer,
A friend of mine in Birmingham, a photographer but not a caver, sent me this
Flickr link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/realms_of_reality/
Does anyone know Nathan Williams? He does some very good cave photography. My
wife Diane says that she remembers going through Tumbling Rock cave. It is
Does someone have a valid e-mail address for Chris? Sam
I got it. Thanks, .. Sam
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_County,_Texas
. Sam
Fritz Holt asked: By the way, can anyone tell me a brand of gasoline or a
retail distributor that does not have ethanol in the product?
Here is a list of the stations in Texas which have ethanol-free gas. Alas, you
will notice that there are no large Texas cities in the list:
Entomologists are doing flips over that spider that was found in an Oregon
cave. Here is another article with pictures:
http://bit.ly/N67j6d
Sam
I loved your dissertation about carbide caving Carl. And this whole discussion
about carbide has been a kick. Oh yes, the first time I went caving with a
British guy, a “potholer”, he kept asking if anyone wanted to borrow his prick.
I am reminded of a time when I was on the campus of the
Some health problems will limit my participation at TCR this year. I might be
able to visit some on Saturday but I regret that I can not do the recycling
this year. The containers are in my carport and if anyone would like to pick
them up and take them to the campground, please contact me.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-scientists-deepest-terrestrial-arthropod.html
As usual, there will be recycling containers for aluminum cans and plastic
bottles. Two will be near the cook’s camp. I will need to get home by noon
Sunday (company coming) and so please do not wait too late Sunday morning to
get your recyclables together. .. Sam
A new species of psocid from Texas caves has recently been described based on
specimens in the Texas Memorial Invertebrate Zoological Collection. It is
Psyllipsocus subterraneus Mockford. The holotype male was collected at Up the
Creek Cave (Bexar Co.) by K. McDermid on 10/22/2008; the
I learned yesterday of the death of Roger Sorrells. Roger was a very active
caver in Texas beginning in the late 50’s. He is mentioned several times in
“Fifty Years of Texas Caving”. You can find the obituary here:
From News of the Weird May 22, 2011:
Wh!
In March, in Pierce County, Wash., a sewer worker, 37, came loose from a safety
line and slid about 3,000 feet through a 6-foot-diameter sewer pipe at the
Chambers Creek Wastewater Treatment Plant. He could have drowned, according
to one rescuer,
A friend of mine in Birmingham, a photographer but not a caver, sent me this
Flickr link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/realms_of_reality/
Does anyone know Nathan Williams? He does some very good cave photography. My
wife Diane says that she remembers going through Tumbling Rock cave. It is
A noncaver photographer friend of mine sent me this slide show of caves from
around the world. Maybe you have seen it. I found the link but I could not
get the sound to work. There might be an interface page. If so, click on view.
Recycling containers will be available at TCR for the collection of aluminum
cans and plastic bottles. Look for them near the Bexar Grotto camp and the
food area. The aluminum will be contributed to Green Guy Recycling of San
Marcos, the providers of the containers.
. Sam
The 2010 TCR contributed 6 pounds of plastic and 11 pounds of aluminum. The
plastic drink bottle which was filled with urine is on its way to the landfill.
. Sam
I can not find that issue of the 2010 Newsletter to confirm what Gill has
posted. But that picture on page 432 of Carl’s book is definitely the Mike
Collins that we knew. Indeed, Diane and I went to Tanaja and El Tigre with
Mike and his wife (since divorced) and I think that it was 1964. We
Hello Everyone... this is Diane Young with a request for any information on
records of Psocoptera - psocids- booklice or barklice - either within Texas
caves or near the entrances to caves. Technically these insects now are placed
in the Order Psocodea and Suborders Trogiomorpha, Troctomorpha
Thanks to everyone for the help with the references and contact info for James
Reddell. You can contact Diane at youn...@centurytel.net. and we can end this
string.
A special thanks to Charlie Loving on the subject of psocoptera. I had no idea
how it could involve the constitution, religion,
Dear Friends,
OK, this is Diane Young again (youn...@centurytel.net). I am searching for
a book entitled Encyclopaedia Biospelogica, Volume 1. 1994. There was an
article about psocids in that volume by Badonnel and Lienhard. There may even
be an updated version of this volume. I am having
We have a caver from New York visiting here in San Marcos. He is helping with
a cave cleanout that we are doing. He will be here until July 1 and would like
to get into a Texas cave. If someone has a trip that he can join up with
please contact him.
Name: Ian Bunk
e-mail: bunk...@gmail.com
I have not looked at the images that everyone is talking about but I do know
that there is a growing science of image forensics or image manipulation
detection. You could contact someone who might be able to give an expert
opinion on the matter. Just Google image manipulation detection and
The Center for Biological Diversity is organizing a petition to congress asking
for more funding for WNS research. You can see the petition here:
http://action.biologicaldiversity.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=3815
Sam
OK where is the fallacy?
The fallacy was at the very beginning when you assumed that One can maintain
the equality of an equation as long as the same operation is done to both
sides.
The first fallacy involved extracting a real root of a negative number. The
second fallacy involved a
What's-his-name (the guy with the big conservation range and the
artificial bat cave) claims that clearing cedar on his ranch caused a
lot more spring flow. Of course, it is possible he just sees that
because that's what he was told to expect. -- Mixon
It is Bamberger Ranch. He does indeed
Today's Austin American Statesman ran an article about the discovery of Natural
Bridge Caverns. The discovery was made by our own Orian Knox 50 years ago.
Read it here:
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/50-years-since-discovery-of-largest-known-caverns-425529.html?srcTrk=RTR_240839
There are services which can retrieve data from blown hard drives but you will
not get all of it back and it costs $$$. Sam
Because they crash, too, Rod.
I have a $150 100GB ext. HD paperweight with a bunch of data that is lost now.
Mark
I saw some leaf cutter ants in Rockport. Sam
A few months ago there was a thread about leaf-cutter ants. Here's
something new about them from the Yucatan. Such ants can usually be
seen busily at work in Bustamante Canyon. I don't recall seeing them
in Texas, but I wouldn't be
We will be recycling aluminum and plastic at TCR again this year. A pair of
containers will be at the Bexar Grotto camp and another pair near the cooks
camp. The containers are provided by Green Guy Recycling of San Marcos and the
collected material will be contributed to them. If you wait
I responded to this question from Mark but somehow, it did not get posted. Try
again: Glass is particularly difficult to deal with. Green Guy does take
glass but I do not have room for it with my pickup. People at TCR have told me
that they just take their recyclables home. Maybe that is
Earth Science Picture of the Day will be interesting to some of you. ... Sam
http://epod.usra.edu/
The Center for Biological Diversity has posted an action page on white nose
syndrome. They are urging the Fish and Wildlife Service to take more action.
View it here:
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2167/t/5243/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27802
... Sam
Richard Smith, who is known to some of you as one of the old timer UT grotto
people has suffered a heart attack - two actually. We have had a difficult
time getting information but this morning we got through to his sister who
spoke to us from his bedside. He is in the ICU at Seton Hospital
I am happy to report that the news on Richard Smith is good. Richard's sister
called about noon today and said that he is awake and alert. He is weak but
may be headed for a complete recovery. The heart attack was ventricular
fibrillation (electrical, not plumbing) and he will most likely
Richard was moved to a regular room in the cardio unit and we visited with him
today. He was very vigorous and strong. He does not remember anything that
happened Saturday or Sunday including that he was at our house Saturday night.
The docs installed some more stints and will install a
From Carl Kunath:
Thanks for the good news.
Richard was at your home when stricken?
Does he have family other than the sister noted?
===ck
No, he left a small party at our house Saturday night and drove home. He went
down to his office at the State Water Board on Sunday to finish work on a
The recycling containers will be available again this year at TCR. There will
be a pair of containers at the Bexar Grotto camp and another pair near the
cooks area. Be prepared to recycle aluminum cans and plastic bottles.
and thanks, Sam
The recycling containers at TCR captured a total of 14 pounds of plastic
bottles and 26 pounds of aluminum - one pretty good pickup load. The material
was donated to Green Guy Recycling of San Marcos and the cavers were given the
credit for the donation.
factoid: Making aluminum from recycled
Here is an exerpt from an article in Science News. They mention Moleno and
Tiaja as Mexican caves where the samples were taken. The link for the article
is below but you will have to subscribe to see it.
Keep them in the dark for a million years. Then cross two strains of
cave-dwelling fish,
It is all about genetics Louise. Genetists want to find out just what the
mechanism is by which fish evolve to lose their vision. The answer is that it
is different in caves which are far apart.
... Sam
Hi Sam,
Excuse me for being a little dense, but what is the point of breeding cave
Sorry, I did not realize that one must be a subscriber to Science News in order
to read the article online. Here is the article except for the photo. (rules,
you know) The last comment is interesting. Could the same be true of insects?
salamanders? ... Sam
Seeing again: Blind fish
The story about the goat and the railroad tie sounded kind of familiar and so I
checked it out on Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/critters/mishaps/chain.asp
Here is the info again about how to get your copy of the book. I got mine
Christmas eve and I will tell you that it is very impressive and fun to look
through. I don't see how Carl could make this for only $50.
Thank you Carl Kunath!!
50 Years of Texas Caving. Carl E. Kunath. AK
TCR attendees:
We will recycle aluminum cans and plastic bottles again this year. I will set
up a pair of containers at the Bexar Grotto camp and another near the dining
area or cooks camp. You can help by setting up a container in your own area
and then transferring the contents to the
The recycling effort at TCR managed to collect 17 pounds of aluminum and 7
pounds of plastic bottles. This was contributed to Green Guy Recycling of San
Marcos. Thanks to everyone for helping out. People keep asking me about
picking up glass also. I can not do that with just my pickup truck
Speaking of monarch butterflies, there is some good news from Pres. Calderone
today. Here is the AP story from the Austin American Statesman:
http://www.statesman.com/search/content/news/stories/world/11/26/1126mexico.html
Sam
Mixon: I remember being in the porta-pool in the back of Hixson's truck, myself.
I remember NOT being in the back of Hixon's truck (I thought it was Terry
Raines truck). They were driving around the camp ground grabbing people and
pulling them into the water. I hid out from them to avoid the
We bought a new pickup and we are selling the 89 Nissan pickup. It really is
in good condition. It was just finally time to move up. If you are
interested, take a look at:
http://home.centurytel.net/sam-diane/truck.htm
and remember; air conditioning is for wimps.
Sam
The truck is not four-wheel drive- not what you would call a caving vehicle.
We are in San Marcos. See below to contact us off of Texas Cavers.
But it isn't four-wheel drive?!
So Sam where is the truck located?
Sam W. Young
815 Thousand Oaks Loop
San Marcos TX 78666
512 392-7327
I have to get in on this subject. Confirming what Rod Goke said, I was going
into a cave in North Alabama one frosty morning and there was a lot of steam
coming out of the entrance. We stood at a point where we had a good view of
the valley and saw dozens of white plumes emerging from the
I need an e-mail address or some contact information for Chris Thibodaux.
Please reply to me.
Sam W Young
815 Thousand Oaks Loop
San Marcos, TX 78666
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alphabet.
Sam Young
P.S. The Russian characters may not show up in your computer
containers at TCR with the Green Guy stickers on them.
We do this because we are cavers and besides, there are too damn many people
all trying to live together on the same little planet.
Sam Young
will be staying.
... Sam Young
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There is an interesting article in today's (Sunday's) San Marcos Daily record
about the work that is going on at Aquarena Springs. They are removing an old
diversion pipe and have discovered a cavern in Spring Lake.
http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/
Sam Young
I was in the new Cabelas yesterday. I spent some time in the shoe department.
They have a hugh selection of shoes and boots and waders. It is at exit 220 on
the west side of I35.
Sam
There's a new Cabelas just outside of Austin on I-35 south. They're bound
to have some pretty good
I thought that perhaps Shrewsbury had misspelled the name. I inquired
and received this reply:
/Hi Sam, It is Bob Thrun, of Maryland, and a caver who primarily pushed
stuff in West Virginia. Bob Thren, as you know, is another person. Wm/
Now, does anyone know whatever happened to Bob Thren?
at the camp, bbq will be catered, and other details are still
to be worked out. If there is anything else that you should know, I
will post it here or you can email me off of TexasCavers.
... Sam Young
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Cavers,
Tom White was a UT Grotto caver in the 50's and 60's. We were friends
for many years but we did not hang out together that far back so I do
not know that much about his caving activity. I believe that he was the
person who started Texascavers and ran it for years. He was also a
The Nova program on PBS tomorrow night (Wed) is the Thai cave rescue.
... Sam
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Charlie Loving wrote: /We finally got to the trail and climbed the
switch backs carrying a case of Carta Blanca. That was our supplies for
the trek. We met Janey Calvert and Ed Alexander, Faye Chapman and Bill
Johnson at the top and were follwed up by Geroge and Carlyn. We went in
the cave and
There were some questions about Mike Collins, a 60's caver that some of
new and lost track of. TR Evans connected me to this obituary:
https://tinyurl.com/y5kalqkb
... Sam
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I am sorry to have to report that we have lost another one. Terry
Plemons died yesterday in St. Davids Hospital in Austin. He suffered a
heart attack a few days ago.
. Sam Young
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This morning’s New York Times has an article about the Viet Nam caves which are
being commercialized. I hope you can see this without being a subscriber.
Sam Young
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/travel/deep-in-vietnam-exploring-a-colossal-cave.html?ref
This article appeared in the UT Alumni magazine, Alcalde. ... Sam
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To Heather Tucek,
Maybe I should not have posted that Alcalde article. I was once interviewed by
a student newspaper reporter. I never made that mistake again. You are right,
Sheesh!
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Actually, today is San Jacinto Day. Texas Independence Day is March 2. But we
can be happy anyhow.
Sam W. Young
815 Thousand Oaks Loop
San Marcos TX 78666
512 392-7327
From: Louise Power via Texascavers
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caves on his place and we had access to those. Sam Young
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That was quick. The stove has been taken already. ……. Sam
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I have an old kerosene burning camp stove. I don’t know if anyone uses these
any more. Someone left it with me and it looks like it is in good shape. If
you would like to have it and save me from taking it to Goodwill, let me know
off of Texas Cavers.
……. Sam Young, in San Marcos
Sent from
but not in
the picture. And yes, I think that is Ken Laidlaw's truck.
I have an old cardboard box with 35mm slides on top of my book case. I
am sure there are some dusty old photos that I took at Sequoia. Shall
I? .. Sam Young
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I do not know how much it has to do with the sinkhole, but Bill Whitliff
has written a novel with the title, "The Devil's Sinkhole". It is part
two of a trilogy, the first being, "The Devil's Backbone". Whitliff
wrote the screenplay for "Lonesome Dove".
Info for his appearance at Texas
Sure, Bill, I think I can get it to him. I will send it to my friend
Bezdek who will be in contact with Ambus.
Sam
On 1/11/2017 11:19 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote:
If anybody can figure out how to get in touch with that Hungarian mathematician
Gergely Ambus who took those
, below, the abstract of the talk and a link to the images.
... Sam Young
Gergely Ambrus ( Professor, Budapest Semesters in Mathematics) Title:
Inverse Everest - Expedition to the deepest cave in the world.
Abstract:
In August 2016, a handful of Hungarian cavers descended into the
deepest
with my father on our website.
Contact me off of TexasCavers and I will send you the link.
. Sam Young
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