Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza Second Line

[Logan]

Sounds like great fun!

On 10/4/2019 3:35 PM, Vivian Loftin wrote:

  We'll be sending Ernie off in high style at TCR this year. The Ernie 
Garza Memorial Band will be leading a short Second Line (New Orleans style 
funeral parade) in his honor. It will be right after dinner. So come prepared 
to sing and dance along. Parasols and fancy hats encouraged.
  If you play an instrument, please join the band! Email me privately for 
charts. Or just show up with a tambourine or whatever.
-Vivian Loftin
  
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza Second Line

[Andrew Gluesenkamp]

Harmonica in hand!  I don’t need no stinking charts. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Vivian Loftin  wrote:
> 
> We'll be sending Ernie off in high style at TCR this year. The Ernie 
> Garza Memorial Band will be leading a short Second Line (New Orleans style 
> funeral parade) in his honor. It will be right after dinner. So come prepared 
> to sing and dance along. Parasols and fancy hats encouraged. 
> If you play an instrument, please join the band! Email me privately for 
> charts. Or just show up with a tambourine or whatever.
> -Vivian Loftin
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza

[William R. Elliott]

Dear Drew,

Thanks for your tribute to Ernie Garza, which I am sharing on the
TexasCavers list. You can see a longer biography of Ernie at
http://cavelife.info/hall/hall.htm

I traveled with Ernie to the Texas Caver Reunion in 2018, and we had good
discussions about caves, people, and books. I will not forget him either.

Thanks,

*William R. (Bill) Elliott*

*speodes...@gmail.com *

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On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:31 PM Packman, Drew M 
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> I was so sad to see Ernie’s obit in the NSS news this month. I happened
> upon your site “The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers” when I researched his
> name today.
>
> I will never forget Ernie and his ability to carry a load or shoulder a
> burden. I enjoyed his company on multiple expeditions in Oaxaca.
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza obituary

[Linda Palit]

Thanks, Bill.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:51 AM William R. Elliott 
wrote:

> *Ernie Garza*
>
> *NSS 13484-FE, CM *
> July 20, 1938 – August 16, 2019
>
> *Note:* This is the obituary sent on 23 August 2019 to the *NSS News*,
> which will contain one or two photos. For a longer biography of Ernie Garza
> with many photos and citations, see *The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers*,
> established today at http://cavelife.info/
>
> International caver and creative photographer, *Ernest Garza*, was born
> in Brownsville, Texas. He grew up in Corpus Christi and southern
> California. Nicknamed Ernie and Ernesto, he was a skilled caver,
> photographer, and friend to many. Ernie passed away at his residence in
> Austin, Texas, age 81, with friend Vivian Loftin by his side. His family
> and friends are mourning his death, so soon after his close friend and
> neighbor, Don Broussard, passed away on May 16. Ernie passed away after
> recent stays in the hospital and nursing home, then spending his final
> weeks in Austin, living under the watchful eyes of cavers Yazmin Avila and
> Jim Kennedy.
>
> Logan McNatt and Barbara Vinson interviewed him in June to learn more
> about his life. Logan and Terry Holsinger went through some of his slides
> and photo prints to get them ready for friends to organize and scan. There
> are numerous albums in storage cabinets and elsewhere.
>
> His cousin, Tavita Alvarado, remembers Ernie attending W.B. Ray High
> School in Corpus Christi, Texas. She recalled Ernie as a diver who would
> bring sea collections to his family. Rune Burnett said that Ernie worked in
> undersea welding for a time. He became independent of his parents, Ramon
> and Esther Salinas Garza, at age 15 or 16. He was in the Los Angeles area
> for junior high, where he started learning photography. He worked in
> photography at McGreggor Studios in Corpus Christi in high school.
>
> He served in the Army at Fort Huachuca, Arizona, in 1961-1963, where he
> learned advanced photography. He was back in Corpus in 1965 and California
> 1966-1994. He often came to Austin via expeditions to Mexico, and in 1994
> he moved to Terry Raines’ old house on Parkwood near Mueller Airport. He
> rented 473 Limestone Lane, Driftwood, and then he bought his country place
> on 444 Billie Brooks Road.
>
> The first caving photo we have of him was at Xilitla, San Luis Potosí, in
> 1966. He made trips to the Sierra de El Abra, San Luis Potosí and
> Cuetzalan, Puebla. He focused on Oaxaca, where he caved in the Huautla Area
> and the Cerro Rabón. His name is on at least 23 Mexican cave maps, and he
> explored and photographed many others.
>
> Ernie went on many trips to Mexico and a few Texas caves. He published
> cave photos, trip reports, reviews and articles. He received an NSS Fellow
> award in 1988, and he and Karlin Meyers received a Certificate of Merit
> Award in 1993 for pioneering the Cerro Rabón in Oaxaca, where there are
> many deep caves.
>
> In California he lived in Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Monterey Park
> and Los Angeles, and he was a member of the Southern California Grotto. He
> went caving with Frank Binney, Dave Bunnell, Carol Vesely, Bob Richards,
> Steve Slocomb, John Woods, Blane Colton, Bill Deane and others. Ernie and
> John Woods went in many California caves: Lilburn Cave (survey trips),
> Church Cave, Soldier's Cave, Cave of the Winding Stair (survey trips),
> Crystal '67 (Houghton's Cave). Ernie and John caved in Arizona at Onyx Cave
> (survey trips), Cave of the Bells, SP Cave, Fort Huachuca Cave and Dante's
> Descent. They also travelled around Nevada and made brief sorties together
> into the Grand Canyon and Northern Mexico around Hermosillo. He assisted
> Dave Bunnell in mapping Painted Cave, California, for years the largest
> surveyed sea cave in the world. He surprised everyone by pulling out two
> helium-filled Snoopy balloons that he used to measure the 130-foot ceiling.
> Ernie also went on a big 1982 expedition to Mount Kaijende, Papua New
> Guinea. Details of his career with citations are in a long biography
> compiled by Elliott, available at http://cavelife.info/
>
> John Woods said, “Ernie Garza is the studliest nerd who ever walked the
> planet and an eccentric among eccentrics. He has done things that macho men
> fear and yet has always remained self-effacing, gentle and kind. He is one
> of the most soft-spoken men I have even known. I used to joke that he had
> no adrenal glands. Both his eccentricity and his humility are legendary
> among cavers. I can truly say that all who meet him – care for him. I have
> never met a more affable man.”
>
> Ernie hardly reacted when a massive rock fall nearly nailed his caving
> group in Dante's Descent, Arizona. Ernie emerged from a cloud of dust and
> said, “That was exciting.” Ernie was constantly forgetting his caving
> helmet. Once he bought a straw hat to replace his forgotten helmet at
> Millerton Lakes Cave, CA. He taped a carbide lamp to the 

Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[Jon Cradit]

It's getting to look like a Memory Garden at the Texas Caving Center may be 
worth considering for the spreading and comingling of cavers past.

Jon Cradit



From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Nancy 
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Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:14 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie

Ernie's Last Wishes were to be buried at sea. Since we couldnt find anyone to 
do that, he opted for cremation. That has been set in motion and I'll be able 
to pick up his ashes in a couple weeks. He never specifically talked about a 
memorial, but we all know how much he loved a party. and music. I think it 
would be nice to celebrate his life at TCR where many of his friends can gather 
and tell Ernie stories. I do not plan to organize anything more. If someone 
else would like to, they are welcome. If anyone would like to scatter some of 
his ashes in his many favorite places in the world, we can arrange that as well.
Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[Jocelyn Hooper]

Thank you Nancy.  I think a celebration at TCR would be very appropriate
because Ernie loved to be around lots of people!
Jocie

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:13 PM Nancy Weaver  wrote:

> Ernie's Last Wishes were to be buried at sea. Since we couldnt find anyone
> to do that, he opted for cremation. That has been set in motion and I'll be
> able to pick up his ashes in a couple weeks. He never specifically talked
> about a memorial, but we all know how much he loved a party. and music. I
> think it would be nice to celebrate his life at TCR where many of his
> friends can gather and tell Ernie stories. I do not plan to organize
> anything more. If someone else would like to, they are welcome. If anyone
> would like to scatter some of his ashes in his many favorite places in the
> world, we can arrange that as well.
> Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[bmorgan994]

Vaya con Oztotl Amigo!

Sleazel

-Original Message-
From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Loftin
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:47 AM
To: Cavetex 
Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie

 I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's 
official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor to 
be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So much 
to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as tough as 
they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
Vivian Loftin
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[Jocelyn Hooper]

So happy you were with him Vivian.  He was a good and kind human being.
Jocie

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:47 AM Vivian Loftin  wrote:

>  I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's
> official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor
> to be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So
> much to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as
> tough as they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
> Vivian Loftin
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[William R. Elliott]

I will miss Ernie Garza, friend to many and a man of many talents. We
traveled to the 2018 Texas Caver Reunion together, but I did not get to see
him much since then. Some of us have compiled a biography of Ernie, still
in the making. Hasta luego Ernie.

*William R. (Bill) Elliott*

*speodes...@gmail.com *

573-291-5093 cell


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:47 AM Vivian Loftin  wrote:

>  I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's
> official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor
> to be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So
> much to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as
> tough as they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
> Vivian Loftin
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[Chris Vreeland]

I’m going to miss his general enthusiasm for everything. Ernie was on the first 
multi-flash photography trip I ever took - by virtue of having another flash & 
being willing to use it to help me set up shots, the whole way through the 
cave, for about 5 hours. Thanks Viv for being there with him, & thanks Jim & 
Yaz for giving him a safe home these last few months.


> On Aug 16, 2019, at 6:47 AM, Vivian Loftin  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's 
> official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor 
> to be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So 
> much to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as 
> tough as they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
> Vivian Loftin
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[George Veni]

Everyone is popular when needed. One measure of a person's quality is how many 
people are there to offer comfort, help, love, and respect when that person is 
beyond giving back even more than a smile. Ernie's quality was high indeed.

George


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 Original message 
From: Vivian Loftin 
Date: 8/16/19 05:47 (GMT-07:00)
To: Cavetex 
Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie

 I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's 
official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor to 
be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So much 
to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as tough as 
they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
Vivian Loftin
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[Katherine Arens]

Viv, thank you for that . . he deserved that and more, that a caver saw him off.
katie
On Aug 16, 2019, at 6:47 AM, Vivian Loftin 
mailto:vivb...@att.net>> wrote:

I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's 
official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor to 
be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So much 
to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as tough as 
they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
Vivian Loftin
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[jerryatkin]

Thank you for being there for him, Vivian. 

Jerry Atkinson.

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> On Aug 16, 2019, at 5:47 AM, Vivian Loftin  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's 
> official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor 
> to be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So 
> much to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as 
> tough as they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[Andy Gluesenkamp]

He cast one heck of a tall shadow.  We will all miss him terribly.
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On Friday, August 16, 2019, 06:47:15 AM CDT, Vivian Loftin 
 wrote:  
 
     I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's 
official as of 4:30am. He went peacefully in the end. It was my great honor to 
be holding his hand as he crossed over into limitless virgin passage. So much 
to say about this wonderful man. He had such a strong will, just as tough as 
they come, and full of human kindness. Gonna miss you, buddy.
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and NSS Convention

[C Tiderman]

There will be camping available under one of the big barns and under the 
bleachers.
Carol 

   On Wednesday, March 27, 2019, 1:35:03 PM EDT, PRESTON FORSYTHE 
 wrote: 
 
 Looking fwd to the TN convention. But, remember reading no shade in the 
campground. OK with me because we are not in the campground during the day. 
Ernie may want a/c.
Preston,  in hot humid KY, and TN is very similar.

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  On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:41 AM, Nancy Weaver wrote:   
Ernie is interested in getting a ride to convention this June in Tenn.  He 
would like to car camp in campground. He is happy to cover transportation 
costs.  Please contact Nancy to talk details.  
cheers,
Nancy 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and NSS Convention

[PRESTON FORSYTHE]

Looking fwd to the TN convention. But, remember reading no shade in the 
campground. OK with me because we are not in the campground during the day. 
Ernie may want a/c.
Preston,  in hot humid KY, and TN is very similar.

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  On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:41 AM, Nancy Weaver wrote:   
Ernie is interested in getting a ride to convention this June in Tenn.  He 
would like to car camp in campground. He is happy to cover transportation 
costs.  Please contact Nancy to talk details.  
cheers,
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza story

[mminton]

Bill's story about Ernie Garza reminded me of a similar story concerning 
Australian Rolf Adams (RIP). We were on a trip to Mexico in my school 
bus with a bunch of other Texas cavers. Rolf had inexplicably lost his 
passport, but he was blond and super Anglo-looking. The only problem was 
his Australian accent. If he said much of anything, his accent would 
have given him away. So as we approached the border we spent quite a 
while coaching him so that when the border guard asked, "All US 
citizens?", he would respond only, "Yep". We got his response to sound 
nearly perfect Texan, and indeed, when the time came it passed muster. 
We sailed through and they were never the wiser.


Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On 2019-03-12 09:40, Bill Steele wrote:

There are countless stories about Mexico caving stalwart Ernie Garza.
In 2015 he joined us in Huautla during our PESH expedition and rode
back to the USA with me. He was worried about entering the USA because
he couldn’t find his passport. I shot this short video along the
way, when we stopped for lunch just north of Mexico City. In it Ernie
is asked what his plan is for crossing the border.

https://vimeo.com/279276822

Bill Steele
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza story

[Geary Schindel]

Cool,

Thanks for sharing.

Geary

From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Bill Steele
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:41 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza story

There are countless stories about Mexico caving stalwart Ernie Garza. In 2015 
he joined us in Huautla during our PESH expedition and rode back to the USA 
with me. He was worried about entering the USA because he couldn’t find his 
passport. I shot this short video along the way, when we stopped for lunch just 
north of Mexico City. In it Ernie is asked what his plan is for crossing the 
border.

https://vimeo.com/279276822

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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and hospice

[Charles Loving]

Covers are a different breed, a clan or tribe that can do a lot of good
things. I always knew that over time. A caring group of misfits.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:42 AM Geary Schindel 
wrote:

> Nancy,
>
> A great example of the care and love of the extended caver family.
>
> Thanks for all you do.
>
> Geary Schindel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of
> Nancy Weaver
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 7:48 AM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie and hospice
>
> Ernie entered hospice last night.  His nurse will be Billy Goerdt and he
> will come weekly to check in.  Hospice will take over all medical care so I
> am cancelling further VA visits.  They will send aides 2-3 times a week to
> take care of physical therapy and hygiene.  I am still managing a daily
> breakfast and supper shift so he will have lots of eyes on him.  Hospice is
> delivering a hospital bed today which will make it far easier for E to get
> up and down.  He has been getting steadily more mobil after his most recent
> fall on the 8th and was using his walker to get around yesterday.  He is
> lucid and loves visits and phone calls.
> This feels like a huge relief for both of us.  Decisions have been made
> and the extra help is very much appreciated.
> Please share this with any of Ernie’s friends that you know.  He was part
> of many circles throughout the world and I only know a few of them.
> Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and hospice

[Geary Schindel]

Nancy,

A great example of the care and love of the extended caver family.

Thanks for all you do.

Geary Schindel

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Weaver
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To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie and hospice

Ernie entered hospice last night.  His nurse will be Billy Goerdt and he will 
come weekly to check in.  Hospice will take over all medical care so I am 
cancelling further VA visits.  They will send aides 2-3 times a week to take 
care of physical therapy and hygiene.  I am still managing a daily breakfast 
and supper shift so he will have lots of eyes on him.  Hospice is delivering a 
hospital bed today which will make it far easier for E to get up and down.  He 
has been getting steadily more mobil after his most recent fall on the 8th and 
was using his walker to get around yesterday.  He is lucid and loves visits and 
phone calls.
This feels like a huge relief for both of us.  Decisions have been made and the 
extra help is very much appreciated.
Please share this with any of Ernie’s friends that you know.  He was part of 
many circles throughout the world and I only know a few of them.
Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie update

[Aimee Beveridge]

Geoff and I plan to visit Ernie tomorrow morning.  -Aimee

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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie update

[Nancy]

> 
> Looks like I’ve found someone to do it tonite 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie update

[Nancy]

> 
> Michael. Could you please call me?  512.924.3391
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie update

[Michael Gibbons]

I will be happy to come and do any construction modifications here needs.
Does he have ex regress to the outside?

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 9:01 PM Nancy Weaver  Since coming home from rehab Ernie isn’t bouncing back and has been
> bedridden for the past week.  He and I had a long meeting with Billy Goerdt
> about what hospice can offer him.  Assuming he qualifies, we will start up
> as soon as possible.  I’ve arranged for local help to come in most
> mornings, make breakfast for him, help with meds and clean up.  And Don has
> offered to help most afternoons with heating up dinner.  Don also set up a
> remote so Ernie can watch tv.
> Hopefully hospice can take most of the afternoon shifts and give Don a
> break.
> Ernie and I also discussed the possibility of VA assisted living.  I need
> to visit with the VA social worker and find out what’s available.
> Meanwhile, none of the doorways at Ernies are large enough for either a
> wheelchair or walker, so we looking to hire some caver carpenters to come
> enlarge doorways.  Doesn’t have to be pretty, just safe and large.  Please
> contact me if you are interested in the job.
> Ernie has a phone by the bed and would love to talk with friends.  And
> visitors are always welcome, tho you should check with me to make sure he’s
> not at a dr appt at the time.  If you do visit, go around to the back door
> which will be unlocked, knock and open and come in.  Call out so he’s
> expecting you.
> thanks, all
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza cloned Facebook account

[Michael Gibbons]

The FBI has an internet fraid division.
The San Antonio office number is
210-225-6741. They take these things quite seriously.
Good luck finding anyone with Facebook.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 12:52 PM Frank  If you recently accepted a Facebook friend request from “Ernest Garza”,
> you’ve been tricked by a hacker’s clone account. How to know the difference
> between Ernie’s real Facebook account and the clone? Ernie’s real account
> has a profile photo and 372 friends; the clone has no profile photo and
> under 30 friends (almost all gullible cavers).
> Can someone local help Ernie report the clone.
> Frank Binney
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and dead vehicles

[Barb]

Aha! Mystery solved. Cooper, not Coons :-)

Barb Coons

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> On Jun 27, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp  
> wrote:
> 
> If the sedan is a Saturn, it belongs to don Cooper. Also, Terry indicated an 
> interest in the Toyota.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 27, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Nancy Weaver  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m clearing up Ernie Garza’s place and having dead, abandoned vehicles 
>> hauled off.  If you left a 2 door sedan or catamaran in his yard, please 
>> contact me immediately to have it removed or hauled away.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and dead vehicles

[Bruce]

Nancy: 

I would also recommend that you steal some fresh veggies from the Gluesen's 
camp and fix dinner for Ernie. I did that and it worked out great, otherwise he 
will continue to subsist on beanieweenies. 

Sleazel

Ps: A shoutout to Texascavers: Has anyone spent any time in Peru? Ann and I are 
going there for seven weeks and would appreciate any leads. I plan to visit 
some karst in the jungle east of the Andes, but also want to spend quality time 
where it is cool and dry. Terry would send me to a salt pan in the high desert 
but I would prefer more conventionally beautiful sights, preferably those with 
at least some vegetation. 

Anyone know anything about Reserva Paisajística Nor Yauyos-Cochas? It is 
beautiful high altitude karst containing the world's highest known surveyed 
cave. I like getting high, but not that high!

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Weaver
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:59 AM
To: TexasCavers 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and dead vehicles

thnx

> On Jun 27, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp  
> wrote:
> 
> If the sedan is a Saturn, it belongs to don Cooper. Also, Terry indicated an 
> interest in the Toyota.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Nancy Weaver  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m clearing up Ernie Garza’s place and having dead, abandoned vehicles 
>> hauled off.  If you left a 2 door sedan or catamaran in his yard, please 
>> contact me immediately to have it removed or hauled away.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and dead vehicles

[Nancy Weaver]

thnx

> On Jun 27, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp  
> wrote:
> 
> If the sedan is a Saturn, it belongs to don Cooper. Also, Terry indicated an 
> interest in the Toyota.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Nancy Weaver  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m clearing up Ernie Garza’s place and having dead, abandoned vehicles 
>> hauled off.  If you left a 2 door sedan or catamaran in his yard, please 
>> contact me immediately to have it removed or hauled away.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie and dead vehicles

[Andy Gluesenkamp]

If the sedan is a Saturn, it belongs to don Cooper. Also, Terry indicated an 
interest in the Toyota.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Nancy Weaver  wrote:
> 
> I’m clearing up Ernie Garza’s place and having dead, abandoned vehicles 
> hauled off.  If you left a 2 door sedan or catamaran in his yard, please 
> contact me immediately to have it removed or hauled away.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie

[David]

Ernie is a great guy.He has offered to let me camp on his property
numerous times.He even let
me stay for free in his camper. How many cavers would do that ?
 Especially those that know me ( LOL ! ).

Ernie has a real toilet inside of his house. Not one of those kind of
toilets that you have that flushes and sends the waste into our rivers and
streams. His compost the excrement.I have no idea how it works.

He also has an interesting cave near his property.Anybody been in that
lately ?  That was the last cave that I ever
went in ( I think ) about 4 or 5 years ago.

There are other fun things to do near his house.There is a caver with
an underground swimming pool.
And the new TSC is not far away.  There is also a really cool bed &
breakfast inn, and maybe a saloon.

And a few cavers live around there.

If I won the lottery, I would move out there somewhere.
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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza's new email address

[Nancy Weaver]

Ernie has a lot of Dr appts coming up, but would love a phone call 512.847.0183 
 or email.  and when he gets home from surgery would really love a visit.

Nancy

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Re: [Texascavers] Ernie?

[Don Arburn via Texascavers]

Isn't he burning on the Playa?


--Don

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers 
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> Paging Ernie Garza.  
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