Re: [Therion] Updated Elevation grid labels

2016-11-24 Thread Footleg via Therion
Both of these updates look very useful to me. Footleg On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:14 PM Владимир Георгиев via Therion < therion@speleo.sk> wrote: > Hi > > Here are a couple of recent Therion updates I needed and added: > - I added 4 more symbol scales to the existing 5 ones: 2XS < XS < S < M < >

Re: [Therion] Stations coordinates

2016-12-23 Thread Footleg via Therion
For converting Compass survey data files into metric, you can use my Cave Converter program. http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/ You can read Compass data into the program, and export it as Survex format. >From this it is straight forward to copy and paste the data sections into Therion files.

Re: [Therion] Aven colour by loop error

2017-02-22 Thread Footleg via Therion
Therion strips most of the data apart from staions and legs out of 3D files it generates. Colour by error and by date are not possible because that information is not in the 3D files generated from a Therion project. Entrances are lost too. One of the reasons I plan to add Therion to Survex convers

Re: [Therion] xtherion: "Edit line" contextual menu for line points doesn't work

2017-02-24 Thread Footleg via Therion
Same as Bruce (but on Windows 7). Edit line context menu items work for me (e.g. Convert to Curve when clicking on a line makes all the nodes smooth curves). Footleg On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:22 AM Bruce Mutton via Therion wrote: > I cannot duplicate this problem. > > At least Insert, Delete an

[Therion] Projected Elevation Reprojection

2017-03-19 Thread Footleg via Therion
I am just starting to try and draw up my first projected elevations in Therion (only 5 years into the project!). I have found that you cannot reproject an elevation from one bearing onto another (Therion only includes elevation maps containing scraps of the exact same bearing as the export statemen

Re: [Therion] Projected Elevation Reprojection

2017-03-20 Thread Footleg via Therion
Thank you Bruce and Martin for the replies and links to further reading. These were really helpful. Martin, I am not sure what -flip right, left in centreline is about. I cannot find any reference to using flip in centrelines in the Therion book. But the -flip horizontal scrap option which both of

Re: [Therion] Loch giving strange artifacts

2017-03-27 Thread Footleg via Therion
Possibly your walls are inside out. Do the walls appear and vanish as you rotate the model? That is a sure sign some of your scrap boundaries are not right. Common causes are the insides of loops not flagged as outline in, or walls which cross other walls. Footleg On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 3:34 PM

Re: [Therion] Question/Problem with customizing text labels

2017-05-17 Thread Footleg via Therion
An alternative to setting smaller text size codes to 0 (to hide xs labels) is to put the labels in a different scrap to the drawing. I have done this with some success where I wanted more detailed text in large scale maps. I still draw it all in the editor on one th2 file, but just move the labels

Re: [Therion] Therion Theory - scrap and map definitions

2017-07-07 Thread Footleg via Therion
Hi Bruce, An interesting read. I think the test of any model is how well it handles the exceptions. In the case of my own projects (where I use my recommended structure of course) I have cases where I have to draw up a section of cave which spans more than one trip in one drawing (typically diffic

Re: [Therion] Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows Installer incomplete installs

2017-07-17 Thread Footleg via Therion
Usually a Windows application installer offers the option to install to a location of the users choosing. If this was done then users wanting to install without admin privileges could choose a location they have write permissions for. Otherwise users can choose to just click through 'Next' on each

Re: [Therion] Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows Installer incomplete installs

2017-07-17 Thread Footleg via Therion
problem. > > Vlad > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Footleg via Therion > wrote: > >> Usually a Windows application installer offers the option to install to a >> location of the users choosing. If this was done then users wanting to >> install without admin

[Therion] Line Colours in Map Editor with 5.4.1

2017-08-11 Thread Footleg via Therion
Having finally got around to updating my install to 5.4.1 I was trying to work out how the line colours had appeared in the official builds (I'm on Windows). I see the ini file entries in both xtherion.ini and xtherion.new.ini, all commented out in both files. So I am assuming the colours are set b

Re: [Therion] mud!

2017-08-15 Thread Footleg via Therion
I designed a UK symbol set for just this purpose. You can pull a copy from the British Caving Association registry where I (and many other UK cavers) publish and share our data. See the gb_layout.thc file in the Wookey Catchment repo: http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/WookeyCatchment/ My projec

Re: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts

2017-08-15 Thread Footleg via Therion
More of a problem at scrap joins where both scraps have water area fills adjoining is that the hash lines indicating the fill type do not align. I work around this by drawing the entire water fill area on just one of the scraps so that it overlaps on top of the adjoining scrap (they must be in the

[Therion] Fwd: Aven in stereoscopic 3D

2018-02-02 Thread Footleg via Therion
Apologies for cross posting, but I think this is of general interest to Therion users too. I had not heard of this route to view 3D cave models in a stereoscopic viewer before. If Loch could export models in a standard 3D model format including the landscape overlays it would open up 3D viewing opt

Re: [Therion] How to combine two maps

2018-02-19 Thread Footleg via Therion
Hi Bill, I generally put just one .th file in my thconfig file, and that .th file represents all the caves I want to process with that config. My master .th file then includes the different .th files for different caves, and also contains the equates to link them together (where they are joined by

Re: [Therion] Wrong average calculation from compass/backcompass data

2018-05-27 Thread Footleg via Therion
The correct way to average bearings is to the treat them as vectors, then average the x and y components separately before converting the resulting vector back to a bearing. It is likely this is what the trig functions mentioned in this thread are doing. Footleg On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 12:57, Bruce

Re: [Therion] SDs for distoX surveys

2018-08-15 Thread Footleg via Therion
In my own experience, the most common blunder which the 'measure 3 times' method with DistoX2 catches is mis-read distance. The Disto tends to be used in the same orientation for all 3 shots, so the compass and clino tend to be well aligned in all 3 (regardless of how well calibrated the DistoX is,

Re: [Therion] Compass (.dat) to Therion (.th) converter?

2019-01-07 Thread Footleg via Therion
You might also find the Cave Converter tool I wrote of some use. It doesn't convert to Therion, but it can read Compass.dat and convert to Survex. The survex files are not too difficult to then convert into Therion in a text editor: http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/ Footleg On Mon, 7 Jan 201