And I think that TiddlyWiki should be defined in an empty TiddlyWiki
+1
+2
IMO, missing tiddlers simply looks like it's some error which is confusing.
Not an error, but a useful tool, I think.
I imagine, the missing tiddler list on tiddlywiki.com may indeed need some
review.
One way
Hi Rich,
I was trying to start a new TW with all the Missing files and I was going
to start making them.
Making them is not the solution for every case.
Sometimes things got renamed and concepts redesigned.
Some perhaps really don't need to be created, I think.
They could just be put on
I'm keen to get 5.1.6 out soon, so all this help is much appreciated,
This isn't really related to the topic but it is something I thought was
worth mentioning when you go back to work on 5.1.6... By my count there are
171 Missing tiddlers. Some, I suspect, were never intended to be
Stephen,
How did you find those missing tiddlers under the missing tab?
In the Emptly.HTML there are no missing tiddlers but 'TiddlyWiki' is linked
too and does not exist.
And I think that TiddlyWiki should be defined in an empty TiddlyWiki
especially if we decide to change the name from,
How did you find those missing tiddlers under the missing tab?
In the Emptly.HTML there are no missing tiddlers but 'TiddlyWiki' is
linked too and does not exist.
I'm sorry if I mistyped that. I was looking at the TW 5.1.6 Full Prelease
html file. Clearly it is a work in progress but then
RichShumaker wrote:
How did you find those missing tiddlers under the missing tab?
In the Emptly.HTML there are no missing tiddlers but 'TiddlyWiki' is
linked too and does not exist.
Sure you'' find them: Sidebar tab More and then vertical tab Missing.
And I think that TiddlyWiki
RichShumaker wrote:
And I think that TiddlyWiki should be defined in an empty TiddlyWiki
+1.
IMO, missing tiddlers simply looks like it's some error which is confusing.
I've brought up this subject before, but for tw.com - I even eagerly
peppered Jeremy with alerts *Oh, look look, I
.(periods) on some systems are no goodsky they are the beginning of the
type area so image.jpg document.pdf ect. ect.
I like the _ instead of . so TW5_1_5_Emptly.html and I know I like really
long file names.
One Idea is to take all the missing tiddlers and creating them for Jeremy
if he is
Example
Tiddler - TitleMe
[[TitleMe|http://eucaly-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/#TitleMe]]
I think I could get a bunch done fairly quickly and we could have all the
missing ones cut to almost none.
I am not a GitHub wiz and I have a feeling we need to make these changes
via GitHub, I am up for learning
d'oh!!! my text editor spreadsheet workaround.
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/Missing.htm
Working on formatting into Tiddlers next.
Rich Shumaker
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:30:12 PM UTC-8, RichShumaker wrote:
Example
Tiddler - TitleMe
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/Missing.htm
I have started at the bottom and I am working my way up.
Someone want to start at the top where I have no idea what to do, ;) #heheh
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I think it's a better idea to first of all hear what Jeremy thinks. Second,
I'm sure that procedure could be automated. Would reduce the risk for
errors also.
:-)
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:51:30 PM UTC+1, RichShumaker wrote:
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/Missing.htm
I have started
Boy Rich. You've really gone to town with this issue. One caveat before we
go too far down this trail. Some of the missing tiddlers were clearly
intended to be actual tiddlers someday. Some of them may be accidents.
DaveGifford or DavidJade were probably never intended to actually be
tiddlers.
Someone want to start at the top where I have no idea what to do, ;)
#heheh
I think it's a better idea to first of all hear what Jeremy thinks.
Second, I'm sure that procedure could be automated. Would reduce the
risk for errors also.
Also the first missing tiddlers from the list are almost
I agree this is a bit premature.
I have been learning a lot as I create these tiddlers.
I won't be putting any details on ones that need to be created to have
something work.
Or putting a note to that extent.
If what I did is not acceptable then there is no need to use it, if someone
wants to
Hi Stephen
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:43 PM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com wrote:
I think it's important to remember who are target audience is with the
Empty file's GettingStarted tiddler. The audience for this tiddler is the
new or inexperienced user. The
I think it's important to remember who are target audience is with the
Empty file's GettingStarted tiddler. The audience for this tiddler is the
new or inexperienced user. The experienced user doesn't need it and
probably replaces it without even reading it.
With that in mind, I have a few
I've simplified empty.html's GettingStarted to remove the tabs. I think, at
least for the moment, that we should keep it simple, and link to help
material elsewhere.
I've uploaded a new prerelease to:
http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/empty.html
Best wishes
Jeremy
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:11
Hi Jeremy,
I've simplified empty.html's GettingStarted to remove the tabs. I think,
at least for the moment, that we should keep it simple, and link to help
material elsewhere.
I think that's a good approach. Tabs add complexity and would only help in
this context if numbered. There
simplified
So, yes, I think this is the baseline for GettingStarted in empty.html:
KISS.
*K*eep *I*t *S*mart / *S*mall / *S*tupid... but, above all, *S*imple.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:28:43 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
Apropos the current lab rat experiments
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/rDRWHh9r6TA/v9IC6pNa7U0J
prof. Kimmel is doing ;-) .. and apropos the absolutely incredible boost
we have in these matters since Jeremys
Jeremy wrote:
I admire your ability to turn around mockups, they work really well and
communicate very clearly.
It means a lot for me to hear this from you, Jeremy. Thank you!
I've actually also thought about having a help mode, I think it could
work well, but obviously not something I
Stephen Kimmel wrote:
prof. Kimmel? prof Kimmel?!? hmm. prof Kimmel. I like it.
Hehe - my chrystal ball had unusually good reception so I could clearly
read professor on that lab coat name tab, in spite of all your waving
with those Skinneresque electrodes over their heads, over there at the
Yes, the tab would be immediately doable (as displayed here
http://mockup-sidebar-search.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted, by Tobias
apropos another discussion
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1066#issuecomment-65936620).
But I think that most of these things (and what I'm about
Hi Mat
I admire your ability to turn around mockups, they work really well and
communicate very clearly.
I've actually also thought about having a help mode, I think it could
work well, but obviously not something I want to do during the moratorium.
I'm keen to get some reworking of
Hi Jeremy,
I do wonder whether these blow-by-blow instructions are appropriate in
empty.html. The alternative would be to have a getting started edition
(perhaps the same as the introduction edition) that is specially geared
to taking the user step-by-step through the installation and
Hello all,
@Mat...great stuff!...I find that TutWiki (tutorial wiki) mock layout
pretty nifty.
I like how the Quickstart tiddler lights up the relevant info in the help
tab on the sidebar.
Definitely will grab my attention as a regular user.
Just my two cents worth.
Best regards to all,
Julio
I like the idea, I am not sure how hard implementing a help mode would be,
but the tab on the sidebar would be straightforward enough. The question
would be what sort of help should be provided there or how it is presented.
Do we have any people with a graphic design or technical writing
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