Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-16 Thread BurningTreeC
> > Hello Simon, > very good. The viewport.js sound very interesting to. You wrote above , > the viewport macro is "measuring" the viewport. > Especially for mobile use it would be very practical to be able to set > the viewport based on conditions with a function like this > But that's

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-16 Thread Jan
Hello Simon, very good. The viewport.js sound very interesting to. You wrote above , the viewport macro is "measuring" the viewport. Especially for mobile use it would be very practical to be able to set the viewport based on conditions with a function like this But that's just an idea an

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-16 Thread BurningTreeC
@Jan, I'll give this some thoughts, maybe the formula plugin can be replaced by native TW widget-/macro acrobatics I changed the PageTemplate so that if a dependency is missing the story shows nevertheless something like the viewport macro would be nice to have in the core. I'll change it a

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-15 Thread Jan
Hallo Simon: thanks for the information, * the formula plugin =$:/plugins/ebalster/formula? * the pan widget $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/pan.js * the hammer.js lib $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/lib/hammer.js * the viewport.js macro $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros/viewport.js * the

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-15 Thread BurningTreeC
@Jan, you also need the pan widget and the hammer.js tiddlers the list: - the formula plugin - the pan widget $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/pan.js - the hammer.js lib $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/lib/hammer.js - the viewport.js macro

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-11 Thread Birthe C
I was always fascinated by Wolfgangs Groundless desktop, anyone have a link for that one? Måns made use of it in danish, that is the only link I know of http://desktree.tiddlyspot.com/ Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-10 Thread BurningTreeC
> > Hi BTC, > > I think it is from Eric Shulmans tiddlytools Quickstart > http://tiddlytools.com/quickstart/moveable.html > Hi Birthe, thanks for the link! @all, this is cool, seems that tw classic allows pretty advanced things. is that because of jquery support? > > > Birthe > BTC --

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-10 Thread Birthe C
Hi BTC, I think it is from Eric Shulmans tiddlytools Quickstart http://tiddlytools.com/quickstart/moveable.html Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-10 Thread BurningTreeC
An unknown human being (I guess) wrote me via guerillamail.com (where I'm not going to answer) Hello, > > Thank for the wonderful work on muuritouch. :) thank you > > > An excellent case use for murri (imo) is as a gallery. And I woudl like to > suggest as an improvement the ability for

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-02 Thread BurningTreeC
@Jan, now I got what you meant. if the swipe direction is set to left or right, it doesn't block scrolling up/down anymore - it's updated on muritest if swipe direction is up/down, it doesn't block right/left -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-02 Thread BurningTreeC
update: the attributes "targets", "velocity" and "direction" also have to be prefixed with "$" - I've changed that -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-01 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar
And when I updated plugin from your site nothing worked. To make it work I copied all your plugin setting from every plugin file and then it worked. Отправлено с iPad > 31 янв. 2018 г., в 22:14, BurningTreeC > написал(а): > > Hi Evgeniy, > > as I understand,

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-02-01 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar
Now we have two modes: when dragging disabled and when enabled. What if we’ll have only one mode. But when we’ll hold left mouse button on tiddler, it will be unpinned from the grid and we’ll move it. About resizing: the most usable case for me are shortcuts or buttons on tiddlers.

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-31 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi Evgeniy, as I understand, you mean dragging tiddlers with the left mouse button - that's something you can do already What I meant is the resizing with mouse+keyboard. Now I've implemented it in a way I like, I've put it online on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com I think like that it will be

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-31 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar
Quick answer: "It's more preferable for me to use hold left mouse click to pick tiddler for dragging behavior. You know, like icons in iPhone/iPad" 2018-01-31 11:04 GMT+03:00 BurningTreeC : > @John Jones, thanks I'm looking forward to that! > > @all: > > I've

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-31 Thread BurningTreeC
@John Jones, thanks I'm looking forward to that! @all: I've implemented alt+mousewheel, shift+mousewheel and shift+alt+mousewheel to change the tiddlers freely The pinch-zoom now works much better and sets the exact width in pixels you set by pinching you can preview both on

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-23 Thread John Jones
Will post back here once we have the integration completed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-20 Thread Simon Huber
Hello John, thank you, I'm very pleased about that I'd be very interested to see your finished fork. Today I'm working on the 0.1.1 beta release of TiddlyTouch, you can take a look at tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com I'm not yet done so maybe I'll announce it tomorrow. I've added a MIT License so that

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-20 Thread John Jones
Hi Simon, I am new to Tiddlywiki but am looking to use it for some of my projects. Your development looks really cool. Thank you so much for posting this. Once I wrap my head around Tiddly and actually start using it, I will definitely try out your plugin. My current focus is on a fork of

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-20 Thread BurningTreeC
> > Anyway, this is my "must have" plugin for TW. Thank you for that. > Thank you, that's pretty cool! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-20 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar
Anyway, this is my "must have" plugin for TW. Thank you for that. 2018-01-20 15:52 GMT+03:00 BurningTreeC : > @Evgeniy Degtyar, > > I understand that, > > I'm currently finishing the first beta release on > tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com > This will not include more

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-20 Thread BurningTreeC
@Evgeniy Degtyar, I understand that, I'm currently finishing the first beta release on tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com This will not include more grids, just the basic TiddlyTouch functionality with error fixes. You can already take a look at it, though documentation is done at the moment. I will

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-20 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar
If to speak for myself I don't need 3 grids. At least now I don't know why and how I'll use when in my personal wiki. But using TiddlyTouch plugin I realized what I need some "focus" feature when you can make concrete tiddler much bigger than others to work with it. воскресенье, 14 января 2018

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-17 Thread BurningTreeC
@all, updated the first post with some info why I make tiddlytouch the demo page has 3 grids now where tiddlers *are going to be * interchangable it's not in a stable state but you can try and see where I want it to go the horizontal view gets one grid above and one below with the current state

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-16 Thread BurningTreeC
@TiddlyTweeter, don't worry, I'm not doing what you proposed right now I'm testing testing testing I'm doing various tests with more grids to figure out what works best and what's nice but doesn't add functionality. Your story-saving comes last 'cause it's an easy thing to do The grid filtering

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-16 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BurningTreeC Just an FYI. I'm gonna create a mock up based on my use case on this to try to make clearer a few issue on this kind of filtering idea. My thought was NOT to lumber you with a mission impossible, but rather try and open up the scope of what I was trying to get at. I may take

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-15 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Simon A footnote to this about saving stories ... If you don't know of it ... Tobias' Story Saver? It lets you save any number of versions you want in a persistent way. https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fui%2FSideBar%2FStories Best wishes Josiah BurningTreeC wrote: > >

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BurningTreeC & @coda coder Nice! Functionally very useful. Being able to have a layout grid where you can leave some slots free is extremely useful for some use cases. For instance, returning to the storyboarding Use Case, you often know the middle of the story before the start. Its much

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
> > >> there's also a test going on on the demo site >> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com >> >> *3 responsive, flexible grids with tiddlers exchangable between them *(the >> currently embarrassing limitation: only one tiddler is allowed in the story >> river so that this doesn't throw errors or

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
@all again, *I've moved the 3-grid exchangable tiddler-thing to: **http://muritest-testing.tiddlyspot.com/ **()ha* *on the demo page now there's a nice button to remove borders and spaces between tiddlers.* *with everything hidden it looks nice. had to share* all the best, Simon -- You

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
@coda coder, thanks! Am Sonntag, 14. Januar 2018 15:46:08 UTC+1 schrieb coda coder: > > > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote: >> >> @all, >> >> there's also a test going on on the demo site >> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com >> >> *3 responsive, flexible grids

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread coda coder
On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 8:36:49 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote: > > @all, > > there's also a test going on on the demo site > http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com > > *3 responsive, flexible grids with tiddlers exchangable between them *(the > currently embarrassing limitation: only one

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
@all, there's also a test going on on the demo site http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com *3 responsive, flexible grids with tiddlers exchangable between them *(the currently embarrassing limitation: only one tiddler is allowed in the story river so that this doesn't throw errors or behaves strange)

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
> Ciao BurningTreeC & TonyM > > Right. Its on one hand just saving a story river. Fully compatible with > what is. > > HOWEVER, isn't it also for grids about also saving a LOOK? > > Since gridded layouts really liberate design on layout, colours, spacing > etc? > > I guess I wasn't clear about

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*SEAMLESS GRID* As I play more with TiddlyTouch lots of ideas come. The flex on it is SO good. For instance, with... 1 - CSS that eliminated all space between Tiddlers 2 - setting of 1 for "toggle columns" 3 - "align Tiddlers vertically" You'd have TalkyTalky

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BurningTreeC & TonyM Right. Its on one hand just saving a story river. Fully compatible with what is. HOWEVER, isn't it also for grids about also saving a LOOK? Since gridded layouts really liberate design on layout, colours, spacing etc? I guess I wasn't clear about what I meant. Which

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
@all, there's also a test going on on the demo site http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com what do you think about this? could this be useful, how could this be used? cheers, BurningTreeC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-14 Thread BurningTreeC
hello everyone, Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 20:08:47 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC: > > >> >> *DYNAMIC REDUCTIVE FILTERS?*One of the neat things that muuri js enables >> is dynamic filtering (https://haltu.github.io/muuri/). Whilst TiddlyWiki >> is good on reductive filtering in the sidebar search

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
*SAVE THE GRIDS?* > > Like saving a story river. But in Grid Mode. > > Use cases: I imagine one grid for substantive WORK, and another grid that > is, say, concerned with CONFIGURATION. I think the point is that we might > be able to do most everything via gridded layouts. > > Best wishes >

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
Just a little remainder, to keep this wonderful tool generic against tiddlywiki design. I can choose many ways to get what I want open in the story view, including a button that open list of tiddlers via tags and filters. There is no reason why Muuris tiles should not follow the same method,

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*SAVE THE GRIDS?* Like saving a story river. But in Grid Mode. Use cases: I imagine one grid for substantive WORK, and another grid that is, say, concerned with CONFIGURATION. I think the point is that we might be able to do most everything via gridded layouts. Best wishes Josiah -- You

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
> > > > *STICKY TIDDLER?**Q: Is it possible to force a Tiddler to always stay > where it is?* > > The use case I'm thinking of is I've written, say, a Tiddler that is an > intro to the rest that I want ALWAYS at POSITION ONE so new users would > always see it first in the flow. > sticky

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you. That is very good news. I will go play with that. Josiah On Friday, 12 January 2018 19:57:13 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote: > > @TiddlyTweeter, very interesting questions > let me try to answer > > Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 18:42:46 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter: >> >> *TIDDLY

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*STICKY TIDDLER?**Q: Is it possible to force a Tiddler to always stay where it is?* The use case I'm thinking of is I've written, say, a Tiddler that is an intro to the rest that I want ALWAYS at POSITION ONE so new users would always see it first in the flow. -- You received this message

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Simon Any approach that works in a simple way is fine as far as I'm concerned. A dopo. J, x >> >> *Q: Rather than have to manually edit to add a "span" field could TT >> individual tiddlers have a toggle option (similar to the sidebar icon) to >> dynamically change the width of a

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*THE SWITCHING EYE* The test Tiddler you give, with the two eyes that (A) removes cruft reversibly and (B) removes cruft irreversibly, is exactly right to demonstrate, on ONE click, the beauty of minimalist design. There are TWO things going on. 1 - the griddy thing. 2 - an appreciation of

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
> > > *THE BEAUTY OF DESKTOPS*This gridded approach is as useful for desktops > as smaller touch devices. Though in a different way. > > On a desktop drag-n-drop really comes into its own because you have a BIG > CANVAS to play with. It is superb for re-organising emergent > ideas/fragments.

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
> > > > *DYNAMIC REDUCTIVE FILTERS?*One of the neat things that muuri js enables > is dynamic filtering (https://haltu.github.io/muuri/). Whilst TiddlyWiki > is good on reductive filtering in the sidebar search I can't say I've seen > a live reductive filter for open Tiddlers like muuri does

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
@TiddlyTweeter, very interesting questions let me try to answer Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 18:42:46 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter: > > *TIDDLY TOUCH-BASE - THE RIGHT?* > > *Q: Am I limited to 12 columns? Is that hard code?* > No it's not. you can define more width steps. look at the demo page,

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread coda coder
On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 12:41:40 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > I'm just wanting also push Simon a little on this because the interface > he's working on is very flexible. And I just wanna check whether muuri does > have a rightward limit or not. > > Yeah, I got that. But you hit

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you coda coder! That is very helpful. I'm just wanting also push Simon a little on this because the interface he's working on is very flexible. And I just wanna check whether muuri does have a rightward limit or not. J, x coda coder wrote: > > I suspect you want fixed height tiddlers

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*THE BEAUTY OF DESKTOPS*This gridded approach is as useful for desktops as smaller touch devices. Though in a different way. On a desktop drag-n-drop really comes into its own because you have a BIG CANVAS to play with. It is superb for re-organising emergent ideas/fragments. ONE issue is

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*DYNAMIC REDUCTIVE FILTERS?*One of the neat things that muuri js enables is dynamic filtering (https://haltu.github.io/muuri/). Whilst TiddlyWiki is good on reductive filtering in the sidebar search I can't say I've seen a live reductive filter for open Tiddlers like muuri does yet. Sticking

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread coda coder
I suspect you want fixed height tiddlers that transclude their content (let's call these fixed height tiddler "containers"). The containers display their content using CSS columns: .someclass { columns:3; -moz-columns:3; -webkit-columns:3; column-gap:2em; -moz-column-gap:2em;

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*TIDDLY TOUCH-BASE - THE RIGHT?* *Q: Am I limited to 12 columns? Is that hard code?* The liberation of the RIGHTwards layout is one thing that got me interested. I'd like to be able to go on forever right. A Use Case would be Storyboarding a movie. Going Right conveys time much better than

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
BurningTreeC asked: > > > what's nowish? > Sophisticated grid layouts out on the web. They have entered the visual vocabulary of most every real user. Gridded snippets are proving to be one of the best information presentation systems suited to web life. They finally break the idea of "the

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
@TiddlyTweeter Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 20:34:00 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter: > > Allora, @BurningTreeC > > I may be in love with you? It could be your bling. > don't get tiddly > > Moving on ... great stuff. Love the flex in what you doing. The little > gizmos you add (color palette,

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Allora, @BurningTreeC I may be in love with you? It could be your bling. Moving on ... great stuff. Love the flex in what you doing. The little gizmos you add (color palette, auto-gallery, transparency, hider, build macros etc) are brilliant in this context. Towards an interface that on

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-11 Thread BurningTreeC
@all, updated the first post all the best, BurningTreeC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-10 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi Wei-Ting, Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 23:40:46 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin: > > I am trying to study the muuri plugin from > https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-plugin/ > > After installation, I switched the storyview to "muuri" and tried to add > an tiddler, but I got an error: > Internal

[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-10 Thread Wei-Ting Lin
I am trying to study the muuri plugin from https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-plugin/ After installation, I switched the storyview to "muuri" and tried to add an tiddler, but I got an error: Internal JavaScript Error Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki by