[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-10 Thread coda coder
On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 3:40:14 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: I think the issue is as much a conceptual issue as an issue about coding. > > In gold, like it should be. (Can't believe you're not a programmer, sometimes.) Errors at this key stage lead to the infamous "form over

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao magev Part of the issue is branching overload. For this kind of thing "working backwards" may help. By which I mean *can you visualise what the tree should look like* at its branchings to be manageable? (E.g. 600 items listed in a Tiddler is likely too much, so WHAT is the SUB-division?

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao magev I'm replying here not so much from a TW perspective as a basic organizational one. To generate a methodology for being able to navigate a decision tree on plant species I recommend looking at the way *botanists* have dealt with this issue. After all its really a botanical issue.

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-09 Thread magev958
I've tried toc as a tree, but it's getting too long with almost 800 genus. I would like to illustrate in a compact way how many genera / species are known to science right now and how many species each genus contains in relation to each other. Some genera contain only one species, other

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-09 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:50:43 PM UTC+1, magev958 wrote: > > Now I would like to show the relationship between the subfamily (5) -> > tribus (22) -> subtribus (58) -> genus (769) -> species (27863) but I do > not really know, without it gets far too big. > I don't know botanic

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-09 Thread AndrewMc
It will be ~29000 elements (or nodes or vertices, depending on how you refer to the parts of tree structures). On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 8:18:04 PM UTC+13, PMario wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:50:43 PM UTC+1, magev958 wrote: >> >> Now I would like to show the relationship

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-08 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:50:43 PM UTC+1, magev958 wrote: > > Now I would like to show the relationship between the subfamily (5) -> > tribus (22) -> subtribus (58) -> genus (769) -> species (27863) > Very interesting. ... So does it mean that your tree has ~29000 elements, or 769 x

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-08 Thread TonyM
Magev, What exactly is the relationship you want to highlight? They should already be in a hierarchy in your wiki if you did it correctly. I presume you have children tagging parents and looked at the TagglyTagging for TW5 of Tobias (great for automatic hierarchies based on the current

[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao magev As far as I understand botany species and sub-species can be represented via a tree structure? That could work in TW visually as there are several visual tools for that. I'm just not sure if plant hybrids fit that neatness. IF it sounds like a simple branching visual way to depict