[tw] Re: SharedTiddlersPlugin and plugins: import, include with eval, or both?

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Thanks for the heads up ;-)

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[tw] Re: TW5: Why doesn't five.tiddlywiki.com fill my screen?

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
A screenshot would be good and some information about your resolution, 
standard zoom and browser.

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] title list format in TW5

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Just try it out on five. You should immediately see results.

Cheers, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] title list format in TW5

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
I'd prefer something like this...

$list filter=[tag[dimension]]
; $view field=title/ 
: $view field=text format=wikified/
/$list

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Re: [tw] title list format in TW5

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Or better still...

$list filter=[tag[dimension]]
; $view field=title format=link/ 
: $view field=text format=wikified/
/$list

With titles being links.

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[tw] Re: Upgrading TW5 core

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Drag your tw5 into...

http://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.html

Then hit the save button.

Beware that any modifications to shadow tiddlers are currently not imported.

So, you'll perhaps need to drag and drop them manually or even copy  
pasta... dunno.

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[tw] Re: linking to a tiddler via an image

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Philippe,

So you want to link from within an iframe to a document that embeds it?
That only works with some dedicated js hooks that are present on both ends.
And when both frame and outer document reside on the same domain / folder.
Haven't seen such a request yet.
(Why) do you have to use an iframe?

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[tw] Re: linking to a tiddler via an image

2013-08-29 Thread Philippe De Feularde
Hi Tobias,

The iframe makes my life easier - I have a 800 x 800 px image with a list 
of links to various folders and files.. Don't have to use an iframe. - 
Another Q, could you email a tiddler page with a link to a page - so when 
its clicked TW opens up with the relevant page ?

Regards

Philippe

On Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:57:58 PM UTC+8, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Philippe,

 So you want to link from within an iframe to a document that embeds it?
 That only works with some dedicated js hooks that are present on both ends.
 And when both frame and outer document reside on the same domain / folder.
 Haven't seen such a request yet.
 (Why) do you have to use an iframe?

 Tobias.


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Re: [tw] Re: Upgrading TW5 core

2013-08-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston
There will soon be a proper upgrade site that will also automatically
upgrade plugins. In the meantime, you can use the technique Tobias
described.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Drag your tw5 into...

 http://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.html

 Then hit the save button.

 Beware that any modifications to shadow tiddlers are currently not
 imported.

 So, you'll perhaps need to drag and drop them manually or even copy 
 pasta... dunno.

 Tobias.

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[tw] Re: linking to a tiddler via an image

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer


 The iframe makes my life easier - I have a 800 x 800 px image with a list 
 of links to various folders and files.. Don't have to use an iframe. - 
 Another Q, could you email a tiddler page with a link to a page - so when 
 its clicked TW opens up with the relevant page ?


Do you have access to the HTML source of that frame?

If yes, copy it and paste it into a tiddler while wrapping it htmlTHE 
HTML SOURCE/html

http://tiddlywiki.org/#iFrame

As for sending an email of a Tiddler... no, the links run on internal 
javascript click handlers.
What you can send are links to a TiddlyWiki so that it opens with 
tiddler(s) xyz.

http://tiddlywiki.org/#Paramifiers

Or, you can just send your TiddlyWiki itself or an exported extract thereof.

Cheers, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] title list format in TW5

2013-08-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Joshua

I puzzled over this yesterday.  In the previous message, Jeremy said Here,
 the list widget doesn't trigger block mode because there isn't a newline
 after the opening tag.

 As I interpret it, this means that in order for items in the list to be on
 separate lines,

 1. there needs to be a *separate *closing tag (/$list, as opposed to
 $list filter=[tag[dimension]] /)


I should add that a self-closing tag is still classed as an opening tag.
So, this will render in block mode because there is a newline straight
after the opening tag:

 $list filter=[tag[dimension]] /


 2. AND that separate closing tag needs to be at the beginning of a new
 line.


No, the closing tag can be anywhere. This will still give you a block mode
list:

 $list filter=[tag[dimension]]
Some markup $view field=title/$list

Is that correct?

 From my amateur perspective, the widgets are currently the toughest thing
 to figure out in TW5 when coming from classic TW.  (Though I admit that
 might be because in the documentation I didn't pay much attention to the
 WikiText tiddler, thinking rather too smugly that I already knew about
 all of that).


This block/inline stuff is an area where I'm not happy with the design of
TW5, and am looking to improve and simplify things.

Best wishes

Jeremy


 cmari






 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Joshua jlambert.lis.t...@gmail.comwrote:

 If I somehow deleted my other message instead of sending it, thanks
 Tobias. That did what I asked but changed the elements to block again when
 I want inline. I did on the other hand find out that the following gives me
 what I want. I have a feeling that it breaks some kind of coding rules
 though. Obviously I'm grasping and using trial and error rather than
 understanding what I am doing. :-)

 $list filter=[tag[dimension]]
 $view field=title/ - $view field=text/
 /$list

 Joshua


 On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:20:45 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 $view field=text format=wikified/

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #10 on Tuesday 27th August at 4pm BST

2013-08-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mario

Many thanks for that, much appreciated.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:47 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:18:37 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Do you have a YouTube account with a video that you could practice on?


 The stripped down version.
 http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2013-08-27-TW5-hangout-10-short
 I hope it is still uesfull

 -m




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[tw] Re: Upgrading TW5 core

2013-08-29 Thread Eskha
Hi Tobias and Jeremy,

Dragging my TW5 into an empty TW5 (either locally or to 
http://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.html) does not import anything under 
Firefox 15.0: it opens the dragged TW5 instead. (However Dragging tiddlers 
one by one works but it is a bit cumbersome for a TW5 with more than 150 
tiddlers...).

Do you have any workaround (or any know configurations of firefox + 
tiddlyfox working) ?


Eskha


Le jeudi 29 août 2013 08:52:12 UTC+2, Tobias Beer a écrit :

 Drag your tw5 into...

 http://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.html

 Then hit the save button.

 Beware that any modifications to shadow tiddlers are currently not 
 imported.

 So, you'll perhaps need to drag and drop them manually or even copy  
 pasta... dunno.

 Tobias.


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Re: [tw] TW5: Why doesn't five.tiddlywiki.com fill my screen?

2013-08-29 Thread Leo Razoumov
On 8/29/13, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:

 [..snip..]
 Fast forward to today, and the majority of websites have now adopted fixed 
 width
 layouts. The reason is readability: studies have shown that optimum
 readability is at around 50-60 characters per line. Much above or below
 that and readability suffers.

Well, the text width required to display 60 characters per line
depends on the font used.
I tend to use very large fonts (20pt) and with fixed layout I am getting less
than 60 characters. I think the right answer is 'proportional layout' that links
the area size to the font and other visual components of the presentation.

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Re: [tw] TW5: Why doesn't five.tiddlywiki.com fill my screen?

2013-08-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Leo

When I resize the TW5 text in my browser, the story column expands too,
keeping the number of characters per line roughly the same. Does that not
happen for you?

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Leo Razoumov slonik...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8/29/13, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  [..snip..]
  Fast forward to today, and the majority of websites have now adopted
 fixed width
  layouts. The reason is readability: studies have shown that optimum
  readability is at around 50-60 characters per line. Much above or below
  that and readability suffers.

 Well, the text width required to display 60 characters per line
 depends on the font used.
 I tend to use very large fonts (20pt) and with fixed layout I am getting
 less
 than 60 characters. I think the right answer is 'proportional layout' that
 links
 the area size to the font and other visual components of the presentation.

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Re: [tw] TW5: Why doesn't five.tiddlywiki.com fill my screen?

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,

TiddlyWiki classic's default theme was a liquid layout that purposely 
 used CSS to fill the entire width of the screen. Back in 2004 that was a 
 popular choice for many websites; most people had 1024x768 screens. Fast 
 forward to today, and the majority of websites have now adopted fixed width 
 layouts. The reason is readability: studies have shown that optimum 
 readability is at around 50-60 characters per line. Much above or below 
 that and readability suffers.


Yes, fluid is really hard to do right and just looks mostly awful when you 
resize. Responsive design that snaps into appropriate modes is *much* 
better.

For the moment, you can make the story column wider by opening the control 
 panel (which is the cog icon in the sidebar), and then scroll down to the 
 link to Theme tweaks. In the tiddler that opens you'll need to increase 
 the story right and story width settings, save changes and reload.


Wow, haven't noticed $:/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks yet. Cool!

Many thanks, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Upgrading TW5 core

2013-08-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston
When you drag the file into the
http://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.htmlwindow, do you see the green
stripe at the top of the screen?

Best wishes

jeremy


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Eskha khaskel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tobias and Jeremy,

 Dragging my TW5 into an empty TW5 (either locally or to
 http://five.tiddlywiki.com/**empty.htmlhttp://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.html)
 does not import anything under Firefox 15.0: it opens the dragged TW5
 instead. (However Dragging tiddlers one by one works but it is a bit
 cumbersome for a TW5 with more than 150 tiddlers...).

 Do you have any workaround (or any know configurations of firefox +
 tiddlyfox working) ?


 Eskha


 Le jeudi 29 août 2013 08:52:12 UTC+2, Tobias Beer a écrit :

 Drag your tw5 into...

 http://five.tiddlywiki.com/**empty.htmlhttp://five.tiddlywiki.com/empty.html

 Then hit the save button.

 Beware that any modifications to shadow tiddlers are currently not
 imported.

 So, you'll perhaps need to drag and drop them manually or even copy 
 pasta... dunno.

 Tobias.

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[tw] Quite probably the very first TiddlyWiki 5 meme entry

2013-08-29 Thread David Gifford

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3vmybk/

Hope you like it!

Dave

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[tw] NEW: Customize — your one-stop-shop for all things *tiddly

2013-08-29 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi everyone,

Sparked by a recent hangout on google plus, sometime this week I thought I 
needed to do it...

So, here's the all new eventually comminity-curated tiddly-repository you 
just might have been waiting for ...for a lng time.

http://customize.tiddlyspace.com http://customize.tiddlyspace.com/#Home

The intention of this space is to provide a comprehensive collection of 
tiddly-artifacts* *that can be gathered and listed in one reference library.

Quite a few plugin entries have been bulk imported from the corresponding 
sources and do need reviewing...

http://customize.tiddlyspace.com/#Review

If anyone thinks a different URL or space-name may be better suited, speak 
now. I just didn't want to use or change any of those early attempts and so 
I started anew.

Now, how does the *Customize* TiddlySpace work?

#1 For starters, it's got main categories...

*Plugins*
» of differnt types, e.g. plugins, macros, transclusions, scripts (, 
perhaps fet, too?)

*Themes*
» for both TiddlyWiki and TiddlySpace, as well as in the sense of 
templates, i.e. those containing plugins

*Apps*
» meaning *any* application that leverages tiddlers, not just the little 
tools, but also TiddlyWeb  TiddlySpace, GieWiki, GTD flavours, Twine, 
etc...

*References*
» for blog articles, how-tos, faq, tutorials, implementations, etc...

*Authors*
» the contributors that actually provided all that stuff

*Featured
*» a category for you know what

(2) Then there are Sub Categories to the first four of the above which 
subdivide the big list of all things under a category into (hopefully) 
meaningful compartments.

(3) Eventually, there are entries, e.g. plugins which are tagged both *
Plugin* as well as with the applicable *Plugin Category / Categories*... as 
well as with the *Author*.

(4) Some features included / implemented in this space...

http://icontabs.tiddlyspace.com
» *IconTabs* for the main sections

http://listfiltrplugin.tiddlyspace.com
» *Tabs* use listfiltr to allow a visitor to easily filter the 
corresponding list quickly

http://getplugin.tiddlyspace.com
» renders those *Category Listings* that are filterable via *ListFiltr*
» and also *Entry Icons* to quickly show what type of entry or category 
you're looking at

http://singlepagehistoryplugin.tiddlyspace.comhttp://singlepagehistoryplugin.tiddlyspace.com/#SiteInfo
» a new *SingplePageHistoryPlugin*
» us the history buttons in *SideBarOptions* (top-right)

http://discuss.tiddlyspace.com
» the all new *DiscussPlugin* makes *Disqus* directly available within your 
TiddlyWiki powered TiddlySpace

http://coloredlinks.tiddlyspot.com 
» *ColoredLinks* used to color category tiddlers and those directly tagging 
to them

http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com
» *LinkifyPlugin* to automagically link words to the corresponding tiddlers
» it only seems too much ...I find it rather cool to find related stuff 
just by means of text — if a reference is wrong or uttler pointless, it 
should be changed, of course

http://img.tiddlyspace.com
» an external space where all preview images for entres are stored so that 
they're not all loaded with the space

http://simplesearchplugin.tiddlyspace.com
» of course

Now, mind you, some major chunk of work is still ahead ...the work of 
filling it all with meaning and taking care of it in the future. If you 
want to contribute to this project, see...

http://customize.tiddlyspace.com/#Contribute

The idea is not to put billions of words into it but rather have a 
comprehensive reference of stuff that's out there, neatly assorted. If at 
some point that external stuff is no longer there, well, maybe it has 
outlived its lifespan... and we move on.

Please try *not* to make (too many) feature requests as to changing how the 
space works. In fact, even if you just wanted more / different categories, 
please suggest them here or, better still, use the *Disqus* comment section 
on one of the categories. Also, never delete anything. Things get rerouted 
or archived.

I think for now the focus should be on collecting all the tidbits out there 
and on getting that space filled with well reviewed content to the brim.

And, oh, I hope you wont feel annoey by me likely reviewing your every move.

Some trusted ones of you will already find yourselves to be members. So, 
please, try to *be aware* of your (potential) powers! ...or, un-memberify 
yourself.

All others, please ask, here or there.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: NEW: Customize — your one-stop-shop for all things *tiddly

2013-08-29 Thread Cyrill
Hi Tobias,

just the perfect author for this perfect collection...

TX

Am Freitag, 30. August 2013 00:53:52 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias Beer:

 Hi everyone,

 Sparked by a recent hangout on google plus, sometime this week I thought I 
 needed to do it...

 So, here's the all new eventually comminity-curated tiddly-repository you 
 just might have been waiting for ...for a lng time.

 http://customize.tiddlyspace.com http://customize.tiddlyspace.com/#Home

 The intention of this space is to provide a comprehensive collection of 
 tiddly-artifacts* *that can be gathered and listed in one reference 
 library.

 Quite a few plugin entries have been bulk imported from the corresponding 
 sources and do need reviewing...

 http://customize.tiddlyspace.com/#Review

 If anyone thinks a different URL or space-name may be better suited, speak 
 now. I just didn't want to use or change any of those early attempts and so 
 I started anew.

 Now, how does the *Customize* TiddlySpace work?

 #1 For starters, it's got main categories...

 *Plugins*
 » of differnt types, e.g. plugins, macros, transclusions, scripts (, 
 perhaps fet, too?)

 *Themes*
 » for both TiddlyWiki and TiddlySpace, as well as in the sense of 
 templates, i.e. those containing plugins

 *Apps*
 » meaning *any* application that leverages tiddlers, not just the little 
 tools, but also TiddlyWeb  TiddlySpace, GieWiki, GTD flavours, Twine, 
 etc...

 *References*
 » for blog articles, how-tos, faq, tutorials, implementations, etc...

 *Authors*
 » the contributors that actually provided all that stuff

 *Featured
 *» a category for you know what

 (2) Then there are Sub Categories to the first four of the above which 
 subdivide the big list of all things under a category into (hopefully) 
 meaningful compartments.

 (3) Eventually, there are entries, e.g. plugins which are tagged both *
 Plugin* as well as with the applicable *Plugin Category / Categories*... 
 as well as with the *Author*.

 (4) Some features included / implemented in this space...

 http://icontabs.tiddlyspace.com
 » *IconTabs* for the main sections

 http://listfiltrplugin.tiddlyspace.com
 » *Tabs* use listfiltr to allow a visitor to easily filter the 
 corresponding list quickly

 http://getplugin.tiddlyspace.com
 » renders those *Category Listings* that are filterable via *ListFiltr*
 » and also *Entry Icons* to quickly show what type of entry or category 
 you're looking at

 http://singlepagehistoryplugin.tiddlyspace.comhttp://singlepagehistoryplugin.tiddlyspace.com/#SiteInfo
 » a new *SingplePageHistoryPlugin*
 » us the history buttons in *SideBarOptions* (top-right)

 http://discuss.tiddlyspace.com
 » the all new *DiscussPlugin* makes *Disqus* directly available within 
 your TiddlyWiki powered TiddlySpace

 http://coloredlinks.tiddlyspot.com 
 » *ColoredLinks* used to color category tiddlers and those directly 
 tagging to them

 http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com
 » *LinkifyPlugin* to automagically link words to the corresponding 
 tiddlers
 » it only seems too much ...I find it rather cool to find related stuff 
 just by means of text — if a reference is wrong or uttler pointless, it 
 should be changed, of course

 http://img.tiddlyspace.com
 » an external space where all preview images for entres are stored so that 
 they're not all loaded with the space

 http://simplesearchplugin.tiddlyspace.com
 » of course

 Now, mind you, some major chunk of work is still ahead ...the work of 
 filling it all with meaning and taking care of it in the future. If you 
 want to contribute to this project, see...

 http://customize.tiddlyspace.com/#Contribute

 The idea is not to put billions of words into it but rather have a 
 comprehensive reference of stuff that's out there, neatly assorted. If at 
 some point that external stuff is no longer there, well, maybe it has 
 outlived its lifespan... and we move on.

 Please try *not* to make (too many) feature requests as to changing how 
 the space works. In fact, even if you just wanted more / different 
 categories, please suggest them here or, better still, use the 
 *Disqus*comment section on one of the categories. Also, never delete 
 anything. 
 Things get rerouted or archived.

 I think for now the focus should be on collecting all the tidbits out 
 there and on getting that space filled with well reviewed content to the 
 brim.

 And, oh, I hope you wont feel annoey by me likely reviewing your every 
 move.

 Some trusted ones of you will already find yourselves to be members. So, 
 please, try to *be aware* of your (potential) powers! ...or, un-memberify 
 yourself.

 All others, please ask, here or there.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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