[tw] Re: PSA: Please license your works

2018-01-19 Thread Abraham Samma
Thanks for the exhaustive input!

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 3:50:33 PM UTC+3, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Abraham, 
>
> You are right. 
> IMO licenses are important and TW plugins have a well defined mechanism, 
> to distribute the license file / links with plugins. 
>
> I do have a problem with the "license now"  link you posted. From my point 
> of view, it only shows a very limited short list.
>
> IMO this alphabetical view https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical 
> gives a more complete list of *open source* licenses. (I know that the 
> number is overwhelming, but I'll try to shorten it later in the text ... ) 
>
> The https://opensource.org/ project page also describes the background 
> for open source licenses a little bit. So everyone can make up their own 
> opinion. 
>
>
> *What tiddlywiki.com  already uses: *
>
>  - TW core uses the BSD - 3 clause 
>  license. Also see: 
> TiddlyWiki5 Individual Contributor License Agreement [1]
>  - TW core documentation uses CC-BY 
>  Creative Commons 
> Attribution 3.0 ... Also see: [1]
>
>
> *Existing best practice for plugin authors*: 
>
>  - The plugin.info file eg: [2] contains a list-field that should list 
> minimum 2 tiddlers
> - license 
> - readme
>  - The license tiddler should contain the license text for the plugin
> - or a link to the license, if the text is much longer than the plugin 
> itself. or
> - for convenience. See: [3] 
>  - The license tiddler can contain the license text for 3rd-party licenses 
> [4]
> - Also see [1]
>
> For documentation the Creative Commons licenses make more sense, since 
> they have been designed for that purpose.
> For code OpenSource licenses make more sense since they have ... 
>
> *My personal thoughts*
>
> I think, that GPL and cousins doesn't fit well for tiddlywiki atm. They 
> are very strong, if compilers are involved. So in the future with 
> web-assembly, they may be part of future development of TW. 
>
> If a project I want to use, has a license, that doesn't fit. ... Talk to 
> the author!
>
> If I start my own plugins, I use a very restrictive license at the 
> beginning! eg: CC-BY-NC-SA 
> Because making them free is easy. ... The other way around is impossible.
>
> More responses can be found here in the group at: TiddlyWiki, licensing 
> and creative works 
>  
>
> just my thoughts
> have fun!
> mario
>
> [1] TiddlyWiki5 Individual Contributor License Agreement 
> 
> [2] 
> https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/blob/master/wikilabs/uni-link/plugin.info#L9
>  
> [3] 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/files/codemirror.js#L2
> [4] 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/d3/files/LICENSE
>   
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting ColorAction Plugin for Colour Manipulation

2018-01-19 Thread coda coder
Thomas... That was a lot of work, I can tell.  High praise, indeed.

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 12:53:00 AM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hello dear community members, 
>
> This is a result of my interest in optimizing the use of colours/colors in 
> palettes and webdesign in general. Accessibility and user experience could 
> be improved much on most websites only by optimizing contrasts … 
>
> At the moment I am using ColorAction in my Bricks CSS studio to create 
> colour palettes where several definitions depend on other colours. See it 
> in action here 
> https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fbricks%2Fpaletteeditor
>  
>
> The Plugin 
> = 
>
> This plugin lets you work with one or two colors using one or two of these 
> possibilities: 
>
> "actions" tell you something about a color 
>
> "modifications" calculate a new color based on an input color 
>
> additionally you can set an "alpha" value for the resulting color 
>
> "utilities" give you a random color or spin the color wheel 
>
> "two color actions" compare or combine colors in different ways (mix, 
> alphablend, equality check, contrast, readability level) 
>
> The macro handles most methods from 
> https://github.com/bgrins/TinyColor#methods plus an additional alphablend 
> action. 
>
> Backup what you have and get it from https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html 
>
> Readme, usage examples and license: 
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FColorAction 
>
> Have a colourful weekend! 
> Thomas 
>
>

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[tw] Re: How to use widget code in BJ's visualeditor?

2018-01-19 Thread armlet
By inline editor, I mean the toolbar appears only when you click inside the 
edit area. Currently, as soon as you edit a text/x-htmlp Tiddler, the 
toolbar is always showing.

On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 6:13:33 PM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>
> what do you mean by an inline editor?
>
> If you mean editing the html in place then it is not possible with 
> text/x-htmlp because of the support of transclusions, and to a lessor 
> extent, other wikitext, such as wikilinks.
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 10:59:16 PM UTC, armlet wrote:
>>
>> Would it be possible to change some codes 
>> in $:/bj/modules/widgets/edit.js to make all text/x-htmlp type of Tiddlers 
>> inline editor?
>> Where would that be?
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know then...
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:07:44 PM UTC+1, armlet wrote:

 Where do I add the style?

 <$edit-html tiddler="My HelloWorld Tiddler #ckeditor" field="text"/>
   
   .cke_top { display: none !important } 
  

 When I put it like this, the top toolbar turns invisible. but there is 
 no inline toolbar either.

 On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>
> you can add the style
>   
>   .cke_top { display: none !important } 
>  
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 6:17:40 PM UTC+1, armlet wrote:
>>
>> I have a workaround after reading your post from another post.
>>
>> What I do is,
>> I create a "text/vnd.tiddlywiki" tiddler and put any wikitext code, 
>> widgets, macros I like. then put this code where teh WYSIWYG area: Also 
>> I 
>> can put multiple edit sections in one Tiddler.
>> And this is exactly what I wanted.
>>
>> <$edit-html tiddler="My HelloWorld Tiddler #ckeditor" field="text"/>
>>
>> I am having another question though: while I am doing this way, is it 
>> possible to make the ckeditor area as an inline editor instead of a 
>> classic 
>> one which has the toolbar displayed all the time? How can I do that?
>>
>> Thanks BJ. I love this plugin!
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 10:38:28 AM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> unfortunately ckeditor does not preserve whitespace (new lines tabs 
>>> etc), this is not a problem with html as they are ingnored in html. 
>>> With 
>>> tiddlytext these do have meaning so, in general it is a bad idea to try 
>>> and 
>>> insert wikitext in text produced in the ckeditor. However transclusions 
>>> are 
>>> possible  as a links.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 9:05:55 PM UTC+1, armlet wrote:

 I've been using BJ's ckeditor adapter plugin, but have problem 
 using normal TiddlyWiki inside a ckeditor Tiddler anymore. For example,


 <$link to="HelloThere" tooltip="Custom tooltip">link1


 <$set name="tv-wikilink-tooltip" value="I'm a link to Loads">
 <$link to="HelloThere">Link 2
 



 This doesn't rendered as links, but displays the code.


 Is there a way to let ckeditor Tiddler still be able to use widget, 
 or other TiddlyWiki codes?

>>>

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[tw] Re: PSA: Please license your works

2018-01-19 Thread PMario
Hi Abraham, 

You are right. 
IMO licenses are important and TW plugins have a well defined mechanism, to 
distribute the license file / links with plugins. 

I do have a problem with the "license now"  link you posted. From my point 
of view, it only shows a very limited short list.

IMO this alphabetical view https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical 
gives a more complete list of *open source* licenses. (I know that the 
number is overwhelming, but I'll try to shorten it later in the text ... ) 

The https://opensource.org/ project page also describes the background for 
open source licenses a little bit. So everyone can make up their own 
opinion. 


*What tiddlywiki.com already uses: *

 - TW core uses the BSD - 3 clause 
 license. Also see: 
TiddlyWiki5 Individual Contributor License Agreement [1]
 - TW core documentation uses CC-BY 
 Creative Commons Attribution 
3.0 ... Also see: [1]


*Existing best practice for plugin authors*: 

 - The plugin.info file eg: [2] contains a list-field that should list 
minimum 2 tiddlers
- license 
- readme
 - The license tiddler should contain the license text for the plugin
- or a link to the license, if the text is much longer than the plugin 
itself. or
- for convenience. See: [3] 
 - The license tiddler can contain the license text for 3rd-party licenses 
[4]
- Also see [1]

For documentation the Creative Commons licenses make more sense, since they 
have been designed for that purpose.
For code OpenSource licenses make more sense since they have ... 

*My personal thoughts*

I think, that GPL and cousins doesn't fit well for tiddlywiki atm. They are 
very strong, if compilers are involved. So in the future with web-assembly, 
they may be part of future development of TW. 

If a project I want to use, has a license, that doesn't fit. ... Talk to 
the author!

If I start my own plugins, I use a very restrictive license at the 
beginning! eg: CC-BY-NC-SA 
Because making them free is easy. ... The other way around is impossible.

More responses can be found here in the group at: TiddlyWiki, licensing and 
creative works 
 

just my thoughts
have fun!
mario

[1] TiddlyWiki5 Individual Contributor License Agreement 

[2] 
https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/blob/master/wikilabs/uni-link/plugin.info#L9
 

[3] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/files/codemirror.js#L2
[4] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/d3/files/LICENSE
  

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[tw] Extend Autolink to include ALLCAPS

2018-01-19 Thread Captain Packers
I was wondering if it might be possible to extend autolinking to words that 
have every character capitalized. If there was an option in the 
configuration panel where you can turn on or off CamelCase autolinking, an 
option to also turn on or off CAPITALIZED auto linking would be sweet.

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Re: [tw] Building a scraper service for TW5

2018-01-19 Thread Abraham Samma
Thanks for your interest Andreas.

Xpath will not be supported for now. And no, everything is parsed by the 
server before returning it to your wiki. No browser messaging used. Spares 
me of worrying about future browser vendor support ;-)

Another reason for this design choice is:

1. You can possibly do bulk scraping operations across the web (the server 
will do most of the hardwork for you)
2. Simplicity (just drop the url that points to the resource to scrape)
3. Accessible to mobile phones because not everyone uses Firefox for mobile 
phones. So no add-ons there.

On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 11:06:59 PM UTC+3, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
> Hi Abraham, 
>
> that sounds pretty interesting, I've had some thoughts about that in the 
> past too, but I've never tried to do it. Are you (planning on) using the 
> Browser messaging mechanism that plugin libraries also use to inject the 
> scraped tiddlers into the TW? Will the scraping support XPATH requests? 
> (that would be really cool) 
>
> I look forward to your finished version, I'd definitely use it. 
>
> /Andreas 
>

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[tw] Re: Extend Autolink to include ALLCAPS

2018-01-19 Thread PMario
Hi,

We did implement the configuration option for CamelCase linking, because 
many new users didn't like autolinking at all. 
We removed Camel-Case from auto linking, because in some langueges eg: 
german this caused problems. 

So from my point of view an ALL-CAPS autolink is plugin territorry. 

What should happen to ALL-CAPS  ... should it be a link?

Can you provide some more examples, for what should be autolinked and what 
shouldn't?

No promises made!

have fun!
mario


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[tw] Re: Building a scraper service for TW5

2018-01-19 Thread Abraham Samma
Yes I've checked out TiddlyClip. A very useful thing. Thanks for making 
this. It definitely complements what I have in mind.

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 3:02:36 AM UTC+3, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Abraham,
> Maybe you would be interested to have you work inter-operate with 
> tiddlyclip. Info about tiddlyclip is at tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com. This 
> is somewhat out of date as I have been adding a lot of new things lately. 
> The lasted version (pre release) of the tw plugin is at 
> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip-plugin/releases and the latest 
> version of the browser plugin is at 
> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases.
> All the best
>
> BJ
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 6:41:15 PM UTC, Abraham Samma wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Recently I have been experimenting with building an external service for 
>> scraping and converting web articles into readable versions that can be 
>> added into a tiddlywiki. For those who use Firefox's Pocket app, it is the 
>> same concept, just for TW5 instead.
>>
>> I believe this would benefit a lot of folks who read around a lot but 
>> find it difficult to copy and paste entire articles into TW5. The wiki 
>> becomes a kind of human-run archiving system for the web.
>>
>> The API works quite well. All that's left is to integrate it with TW5. I 
>> hope to share a demo with you all when it is done. Opinions and suggestions 
>> are welcomed.
>>
>> In the meantime, have a good one.
>>
>

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[tw] Single Tiddler storyview?

2018-01-19 Thread TheDiveO
I'm looking for a single tiddler storyview and I'm aware of the "zoomin" 
storyview. I've experimented with the zoomin storyview, but I see some 
obstacles to my particular usecase. Which is a TW used as a video library 
and player single-HTML app. I could have opted for Angular(JS), but then I 
really endore the TW core and modularity.

Alas, the obstacles:

   1. Irritating animation -- is there some way to disable it short of 
   rewriting the module? Please forgive me in case I've missed a configuration 
   setting already there.
   2. Block closing the last storyview tiddler (or reopen the start 
   tiddler); there should be always a tiddler for my users to interact with, 
   kind of a home tiddler.
   3. Only render the topmost and thus visible tiddler. As a user navigates 
   through the video library watching videos, the stack may contain several 
   rendered (invisible) tiddlers with video players started and consuming many 
   resources. Would it be possible to write a new single storyview to render 
   only the topmost tiddler and discard any previously visible tiddler?

Best regards,
TheDiveO

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[tw] Re: Formula 0.2: Functional computing & spreadsheet formulas for TiddlyWiki

2018-01-19 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Evan,

I was going to start adding some more, but the format you described above 
is slightly different than the previous one:

http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#UnitTest%2FFunctions%2Fnth%2Fsorted-return

Which do you think we should stick with?

Diego 

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 1:28:44 AM UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> Bug(s) confirmed — array and date formatting aren't working correctly.  
> Need to investigate why.
>
> There is also an issue with parsing block comments in Formula 0.2.1, which 
> has been fixed in the repo.
>
> Suggested format for unit-test and bug-repro contributions:
>
>- Tag with "FormulaTest"
>- Prefix "Test/"
>- Text comprises a single formula construct (of any type) whose result 
>should render to TRUE, *or* match the result of rendering field "match" of 
>the tiddler if present.
>- Submitted as JSON files here
>
>
> On Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:18:55 UTC-6, Mr. Mal wrote:
>>
>> I think the now and date function not working in this release. May be 
>> others can confirm this "bug". 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: WaterFox + TiddlyFox = OK?

2018-01-19 Thread PMario
On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 1:55:52 PM UTC+1, Ed wrote:
>
> I use a.o. Waterfox + TiddlyFox on my 64bit computer at work.
>

I didn't test Waterfox.

So I guess: As long as Waterfox isn't based on FF 57+ you should be good. 

-m

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[tw] Re: Image storage suggestions

2018-01-19 Thread hubertgk
I'm using Imgur for image hosting and it works well. The URL is static and 
nicely shortened. The only limitation is that you have to be online for the 
images to load :).

The service is free and I think the number of pictures you can upload is 
unlimited (I could be wrong on this one, though). 

As goes for privacy, if you upload individual photos to Imgur (as opposed 
to images organised in albums) they will be private by default -- although 
there is no privacy setting as such, individual images are not searchable 
nor viewable unless accessed by direct URL.

-Hubert

On Friday, 19 January 2018 04:10:24 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Re #2 -- can you show an example of the paths you're using? If you use a 
> relative path name they should work the same on all platforms. 
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 7:19:21 PM UTC-8, David Allen wrote:
>>
>> Hey all!  I've got an image-heavy wiki and I'm trying to figure out how 
>> best to include these images.
>>
>> I've tried the following:
>>
>>- Imported directly into the wiki.  This makes the wiki impossible to 
>>load on my chromebook.
>>- External to the wiki in the same directory: Keeps the images 
>>private but does not work between Windows and Chromebook.
>>- Online image hosting: I'm using Google Photos, but the URL for the 
>>images changes occasionally, making it difficult to use
>>
>> Does anyone have any reliable solution that would be cross-platform and 
>> preferably private?
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Talky Talky autoplay feature request

2018-01-19 Thread oxydum
Many thanks Andreas, it works like a charme...

You could find my test here : http://vertical.tiddlyspot.com/
I wonder if it's possible for you to enhance with some features like a 
pause, a stop or a backoffice mode.
and please comment the code I'm sure it could be better.
;)

Thank you again

/JB

Le jeudi 18 janvier 2018 21:23:57 UTC+1, Andreas Hahn a écrit :
>
> Hi oxydum, 
>
> yes, there is: You can use Evan's Timer widget [1] to send the 
> appropriate navigate messages. I think you might have to keep track of 
> the current/next slide, which you can either use the history/story list 
> for or roll your own solution with fields. 
>
> /Andreas 
>
> [1] 
>
> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Timer%20Plugin:%5B%5BTimer%20Plugin%5D%5D%20%5B%5BFormula%20Plugin%5D%5D
>  
>

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[tw] Re: Single Tiddler storyview?

2018-01-19 Thread Birthe C
To always have a tiddler open create $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#HistoryMechanism 

Birthe

Den fredag den 19. januar 2018 kl. 17.59.17 UTC+1 skrev TheDiveO:
>
> I'm looking for a single tiddler storyview and I'm aware of the "zoomin" 
> storyview. I've experimented with the zoomin storyview, but I see some 
> obstacles to my particular usecase. Which is a TW used as a video library 
> and player single-HTML app. I could have opted for Angular(JS), but then I 
> really endore the TW core and modularity.
>
> Alas, the obstacles:
>
>1. Irritating animation -- is there some way to disable it short of 
>rewriting the module? Please forgive me in case I've missed a 
> configuration 
>setting already there.
>2. Block closing the last storyview tiddler (or reopen the start 
>tiddler); there should be always a tiddler for my users to interact with, 
>kind of a home tiddler.
>3. Only render the topmost and thus visible tiddler. As a user 
>navigates through the video library watching videos, the stack may contain 
>several rendered (invisible) tiddlers with video players started and 
>consuming many resources. Would it be possible to write a new single 
>storyview to render only the topmost tiddler and discard any previously 
>visible tiddler?
>
> Best regards,
> TheDiveO
>

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[tw] Re: Image storage suggestions

2018-01-19 Thread Ste Wilson
I'm using drop box via one of two options which allows you to serve files. 

Pancake.io or updog.co

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[tw] Re: How to filter by field with a certain prefix in the value?

2018-01-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Mark,

Thanx, but I have to specify my question.
Just inserting [regexp:todo-field[^18.03] after [tag[ToDo] didn't work.

I have a list with popups with this:

\define makeState()
<>
\end



<$list filter="[tag[ToDo]sort[due]]" variable="mytitle">

''Fällig am: ''<$edit-text tiddler=<> field="due"/>

<$set name="stateTiddler" filter="[addprefix[$:/temp/state/]]" 
emptyValue=error>
<$wikify name="qualstate" text=<>>

* <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" popup=<>><$text text=<<
mytitle>>/>


<$reveal type="popup" position="below" state=<>>

<$tiddler tiddler=<>>

<$transclude tiddler=<>/>









.mypopup {
min-width: 380px;
border: 1px solid #bbb;
background-color: #ff;
padding: 1em;
margin: 4px 0 0 0;
text-shadow: none;
line-height: 1.4;
}


How do I have to insert the regular expression operator in this list?

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[tw] Re: Best Way to Serve Large Tiddlywiki

2018-01-19 Thread Abraham Samma
I have a question, if anyone can answer it: How well does TiddlyWeb handle 
very large wikis on a remote connection? By large I mean greater than 
approaching 20mb or more.

Thanks

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[tw] Re: How to filter by field with a certain prefix in the value?

2018-01-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Ahh, I found the mistake.
I described it wrong: The field is not called "due-field" but only "due".

So, the right is now (maybe, others have a similar question):

\define makeState()
<>
\end



<$list filter="[tag[ToDo]regexp:due[^18.03]sort[due]]" variable="mytitle">

''Fällig am: ''<$edit-text tiddler=<> field="due"/>

<$set name="stateTiddler" filter="[addprefix[$:/temp/state/]]" 
emptyValue=error>
<$wikify name="qualstate" text=<>>

* <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" popup=<>><$text text=<<
mytitle>>/>


<$reveal type="popup" position="below" state=<>>

<$tiddler tiddler=<>>

<$transclude tiddler=<>/>









.mypopup {
min-width: 380px;
border: 1px solid #bbb;
background-color: #ff;
padding: 1em;
margin: 4px 0 0 0;
text-shadow: none;
line-height: 1.4;
}


Thank you :-)

Now I have for 99,9% that kind of ToDo-List, I wanted.
Don't waste too much view-space, small in MB-size, always only shows me 
what I need to see and relative simple to edit the due-dates of the 
recurring tasks :-)

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[tw] Re: Building a scraper service for TW5

2018-01-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Very interesting theme. Bespoke SCRAPING  ability is almost my definition 
of what decent net use is. I mean, isn't it most of it about the search for 
information? Too much of the time you gotta recreate the stuff, so you 
don't, as you don't have the hours. Far better to scrape what you need.

TiddlyClip is extremely good but IMO there was still much manual work to 
do. That is why I'm looking forward to the next version. It avoids some 
issues set API's have.

An issue that comes up on good scrapers (using an API rather than ad hoc 
jabbing) is licensing rapidly comes up as an issue. 

I could not tell you how many times API based scrapers of IMDB have been 
challenged to pay license fees. Many.

Best wishes
Josiah


On Friday, 19 January 2018 17:43:42 UTC+1, Abraham Samma wrote:
>
> Yes I've checked out TiddlyClip. A very useful thing. Thanks for making 
> this. It definitely complements what I have in mind, at least on the 
> desktop browser.
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 3:02:36 AM UTC+3, BJ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Abraham,
>> Maybe you would be interested to have you work inter-operate with 
>> tiddlyclip. Info about tiddlyclip is at tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com. This 
>> is somewhat out of date as I have been adding a lot of new things lately. 
>> The lasted version (pre release) of the tw plugin is at 
>> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip-plugin/releases and the latest 
>> version of the browser plugin is at 
>> https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases.
>> All the best
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 6:41:15 PM UTC, Abraham Samma wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Recently I have been experimenting with building an external service for 
>>> scraping and converting web articles into readable versions that can be 
>>> added into a tiddlywiki. For those who use Firefox's Pocket app, it is the 
>>> same concept, just for TW5 instead.
>>>
>>> I believe this would benefit a lot of folks who read around a lot but 
>>> find it difficult to copy and paste entire articles into TW5. The wiki 
>>> becomes a kind of human-run archiving system for the web.
>>>
>>> The API works quite well. All that's left is to integrate it with TW5. I 
>>> hope to share a demo with you all when it is done. Opinions and suggestions 
>>> are welcomed.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, have a good one.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: PSA: Please license your works

2018-01-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
A left field comment. Right, plugins need licences. Protect your work. 

AND plugins need some form of  CENTRAL INDEX. Frankly a great plugin is 
useless if I can't find it. Promote your work. Or, as is, promote getting 
your work promoted.

J, x


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[tw] Re: How to filter by field with a certain prefix in the value?

2018-01-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The regular expression operator should do it:

<>

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On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 9:54:19 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have ToDo-tiddlers with due-fields. For example: One tiddler has in the 
> field 18.03.15, another tiddler has in the due-field 18.03.23 and a third 
> one has 18.04.11.
>
> Is it possible (and how?) to filter these tiddlers in lists by due-field 
> with the prefix 18.03? In order to see only the one with 18.03.15 and the 
> one with 18.03.23?
>
> Thanks for your help! Surya
>

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[tw] Re: Best Way to Serve Large Tiddlywiki

2018-01-19 Thread h0p3
Lazyloading doesn't appear to shave anything off for me either. I see 
something on the screen before I normally would, but the frontpage loads at 
about the same time that I'd have loaded the entire wiki (this is a 
text-based wiki). 

I'm trying --build out. That might be the best solution here given the 
problems I have with the daemon.

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 3:30:08 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You could experiment with lazy loading: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#LazyLoading under node.js
>
> In the past I haven't had much luck with this approach, but I was probably 
> doing something wrong.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:19:36 PM UTC-8, h0p3 wrote:
>>
>> I have a Tiddlywiki html file that is ~10.5MB in size, and even after 
>> compression, it's ~3MB in size. It is slow to load from the web if you 
>> don't have a fairly fast connection, and it's only getting slower (this 
>> monster continues to snowball). I've been trying out the npm tiddlywiki 
>> server, and I'm pleased to see tiddlers are broken down into .tid files 
>> (incredibly useful); I think it's really elegant. This got me to thinking 
>> that it might be possible to serve individual tiddlers upon request 
>> (instead of all of them at once), which would greatly reduce load times 
>> over the web. Assuming the npm server doesn't already do this (it's 
>> possible that it might given the different performance feel of the npm 
>> served content compared to the local .html file), what is the best way (if 
>> any) to server individual tiddlers instead of the entire tiddlywiki all at 
>> once? Also, in case it might change your answer (although, I'm not sure how 
>> it would), I think I want to use a reverse-proxy from a more standard 
>> webserver to the npm tiddlywiki server.
>>
>> This is a different question, but I noticed .tid files I've added 
>> manually aren't served until I've restarted the tiddlywiki server daemon. 
>> Is there a good way to update the daemon without restarting? If there 
>> isn't, are there any problems I need to be concerned with restarting the 
>> daemon automatically whenever the tiddlers folder is modified? 
>>
>

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[tw] The Permanent Assurance -- Will you remember me?

2018-01-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
A remarkable thing about TiddltWiki is that because it uses compliant HTML, 
CSS  and Javascript its close to keeping the thing readable in 30 years 
time (unless we are on the Great Founders' Trump-Net by then). 

However would the net have kept your archived sepulcher by then or, after 
your demise would you be in oblivion? Lost to your grandchildren.

Perhaps TiddlyWiki should get into the LONG TERM ARCHIVING business? It 
could give needed revenue and give the mechanism needed to make the wishing 
true?

Here's a song about Permanent Assurance: https://vimeo.com/111458975

Just a thought.
Josiah

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[tw] Re: PSA: Please license your works

2018-01-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Looking back at posts by me and others we spend too much time pointing 
people to great plugins we personally know but which are not common 
knowledge. They should be. You should NOT have to read this list 24/7 to be 
able to find them. Rant off.

J.


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[tw] Re: Ability to open/save multiple tiddlers ?

2018-01-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Stef

Its similar but different than Tobias. It could be very good for interfaces 
where you want to present certain rivers and hide much of the rest of the 
interface. Its very much towards a one-click menu system which Tobias' 
version isn't.

I'm gonna try it.

Best wishes
J.

ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> As I wasn't aware of Tobias' solution, I made a similar tool recently:
>
>
> http://stefct-resources.tiddlyspot.com/#Stories:Stories%20%24%3A%2Ftools%2FStoryListPicker
>
> The UI is slightly different, but the functionality is probably pretty 
> much the same.
>

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[tw] Re: How to filter by field with a certain prefix in the value?

2018-01-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
This should work:

[tag[ToDo]regexp:todo-field[^18.03]sort[due]]

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 10:36:23 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thanx, but I have to specify my question.
> Just inserting [regexp:todo-field[^18.03] after [tag[ToDo] didn't work.
>
> I have a list with popups with this:
>
> \define makeState()
> <>
> \end
>
> 
>
> <$list filter="[tag[ToDo]sort[due]]" variable="mytitle">
>
> ''Fällig am: ''<$edit-text tiddler=<> field="due"/>
>
> <$set name="stateTiddler" filter="[addprefix[$:/temp/state/]]" 
> emptyValue=error>
> <$wikify name="qualstate" text=<>>
>
> * <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" popup=<>><$text text=<<
> mytitle>>/>
> 
>
> <$reveal type="popup" position="below" state=<>>
> 
> <$tiddler tiddler=<>>
>
> <$transclude tiddler=<>/>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> .mypopup {
> min-width: 380px;
> border: 1px solid #bbb;
> background-color: #ff;
> padding: 1em;
> margin: 4px 0 0 0;
> text-shadow: none;
> line-height: 1.4;
> }
> 
>
> How do I have to insert the regular expression operator in this list?
>

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[tw] Re: wikify widget doesn't accept variable as text attribute?

2018-01-19 Thread leeand00

This is the contents of the "dictionary tiddler" which has a type of 
"application/x-tiddler-dictionary":

1:2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|https:
//www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/]]



And this is the contents of the syntax for rendering in a tiddler that has 
a field which refers to "dictionary tiddler" named 
"accomplishments_tiddler":


<$set name="source" value={{!!accomplishments_tiddler}} >
   <$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">

 Contents-of-Line:
   <>:<>
 /Contents-of-Line:
 <$set name="wood" tiddler=<> index=<> >

  Contents-of-Variable:
   <>
 /Contents-of-Variable:


  <$wikify name="bob" output="html" text="2017 - Hosted lab by writing 
example code, creating presentation and presenting it on [[Backup and 
Disaster Recover Software.|http://bit.ly/cplug_bareos_talk_lib]]; >

 Wikify-From-Attribute:
 <>
 /Wikify-From-Attribute:

<$wikify name="tom" output="html" text=<> >
  Wikify-From-Variable:
  <>
  /Wikify-From-Variable:





  





And the results of above look like this:

 lines - CPlug - Orgs - Petes Webpages - Database 
Admin:1  

 

 

2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
presenting it on Backup and Disaster Recover Software. 



  

---

I can't figure out why the <> variable doesn't populate with the 
contents of the text to be wikified.

On Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:23:36 UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> What problem are you experiencing? When I try it both <> and 
> <> produce text with an external hyperlink.
>
> You don't show your index in your example, so for my test I just made it 
> 01:  
>
> So ... without seeing your data -- be sure you have an index for each 
> line. Be sure that you've set the type of the data tiddler to data tiddlers.
>
> Good luck,
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8, leeand00 wrote:
>>
>>
>> When iterating over a source dictionary tiddler, is it possible to feed a 
>> line (index) from it into the <$wifify> widget's text
>> attribute?
>>
>>
>> <$set name="source" value={{!!accomplishments_tiddler}} >
>> <$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
>>
>> <>:<>
>>
>> <$set name="aline" tiddler=<> index=<> >
>>
>> <>
>>
>> <$wikify name="bob" output="html" text=<> >
>> <>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Let's say there was something in a dictionary line like this:
>>
>> 2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
>> presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|
>> https://www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/ 
>> 
>> ]]
>>
>> That should get turned into some text and an external hyper-link, correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you, 
>>Andrew J. Leer
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: wikify widget doesn't accept variable as text attribute?

2018-01-19 Thread leeand00
Actually it's like this:

1:2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|https:
//www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/]]


Sorry I didn't post it right the first time.



On Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:23:36 UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> What problem are you experiencing? When I try it both <> and 
> <> produce text with an external hyperlink.
>
> You don't show your index in your example, so for my test I just made it 
> 01:  
>
> So ... without seeing your data -- be sure you have an index for each 
> line. Be sure that you've set the type of the data tiddler to data tiddlers.
>
> Good luck,
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8, leeand00 wrote:
>>
>>
>> When iterating over a source dictionary tiddler, is it possible to feed a 
>> line (index) from it into the <$wifify> widget's text
>> attribute?
>>
>>
>> <$set name="source" value={{!!accomplishments_tiddler}} >
>> <$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
>>
>> <>:<>
>>
>> <$set name="aline" tiddler=<> index=<> >
>>
>> <>
>>
>> <$wikify name="bob" output="html" text=<> >
>> <>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Let's say there was something in a dictionary line like this:
>>
>> 2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
>> presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|
>> https://www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/]]
>>
>> That should get turned into some text and an external hyper-link, correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you, 
>>Andrew J. Leer
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] How to filter by field with a certain prefix in the value?

2018-01-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi all,

I have ToDo-tiddlers with due-fields. For example: One tiddler has in the 
field 18.03.15, another tiddler has in the due-field 18.03.23 and a third 
one has 18.04.11.

Is it possible (and how?) to filter these tiddlers in lists by due-field 
with the prefix 18.03? In order to see only the one with 18.03.15 and the 
one with 18.03.23?

Thanks for your help! Surya

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[tw] Re: Single Tiddler storyview?

2018-01-19 Thread TheDiveO
Now that's useful, thank you very much! I've somehow missed that all the 
time.

Best regards,
TheDiveO

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 6:46:09 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> To always have a tiddler open create $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#HistoryMechanism 
>
> Birthe
>
> Den fredag den 19. januar 2018 kl. 17.59.17 UTC+1 skrev TheDiveO:
>>
>> I'm looking for a single tiddler storyview and I'm aware of the "zoomin" 
>> storyview. I've experimented with the zoomin storyview, but I see some 
>> obstacles to my particular usecase. Which is a TW used as a video library 
>> and player single-HTML app. I could have opted for Angular(JS), but then I 
>> really endore the TW core and modularity.
>>
>> Alas, the obstacles:
>>
>>1. Irritating animation -- is there some way to disable it short of 
>>rewriting the module? Please forgive me in case I've missed a 
>> configuration 
>>setting already there.
>>2. Block closing the last storyview tiddler (or reopen the start 
>>tiddler); there should be always a tiddler for my users to interact with, 
>>kind of a home tiddler.
>>3. Only render the topmost and thus visible tiddler. As a user 
>>navigates through the video library watching videos, the stack may 
>> contain 
>>several rendered (invisible) tiddlers with video players started and 
>>consuming many resources. Would it be possible to write a new single 
>>storyview to render only the topmost tiddler and discard any previously 
>>visible tiddler?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> TheDiveO
>>
>

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[tw] Re: wikify widget doesn't accept variable as text attribute?

2018-01-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Where is this coming from:

lines - CPlug - Orgs - Petes Webpages - Database Admin:

?

What is the name of the dictionary tiddler? What are the contents of 
accomplishment_tiddler ? It might help if you exported and attached the 
data dictionary.

-- Mark

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-8, leeand00 wrote:
>
>
> This is the contents of the "dictionary tiddler" which has a type of 
> "application/x-tiddler-dictionary":
>
> 1:2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
> presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|https:
> //www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/]]
>
> 
>
> And this is the contents of the syntax for rendering in a tiddler that has 
> a field which refers to "dictionary tiddler" named 
> "accomplishments_tiddler":
>
>
> <$set name="source" value={{!!accomplishments_tiddler}} >
><$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
>
>  
><>:<>
>  
>  <$set name="wood" tiddler=<> index=<> >
>
>   
><>
>  
>
>
>   <$wikify name="bob" output="html" text="2017 - Hosted lab by writing 
> example code, creating presentation and presenting it on [[Backup and 
> Disaster Recover Software.|http://bit.ly/cplug_bareos_talk_lib]]; >
>
>  
>  <>
>  
>
> <$wikify name="tom" output="html" text=<> >
>   
>   <>
>   
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   
> 
>
>
> 
>
> And the results of above look like this:
>
>  lines - CPlug - Orgs - Petes Webpages - Database 
> Admin:1  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> 2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
> presenting it on Backup and Disaster Recover Software. 
> 
> 
>
>   
>
> ---
>
> I can't figure out why the <> variable doesn't populate with the 
> contents of the text to be wikified.
>
> On Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:23:36 UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> What problem are you experiencing? When I try it both <> and 
>> <> produce text with an external hyperlink.
>>
>> You don't show your index in your example, so for my test I just made it 
>> 01:  
>>
>> So ... without seeing your data -- be sure you have an index for each 
>> line. Be sure that you've set the type of the data tiddler to data tiddlers.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8, leeand00 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> When iterating over a source dictionary tiddler, is it possible to feed 
>>> a line (index) from it into the <$wifify> widget's text
>>> attribute?
>>>
>>>
>>> <$set name="source" value={{!!accomplishments_tiddler}} >
>>> <$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
>>>
>>> <>:<>
>>>
>>> <$set name="aline" tiddler=<> index=<> >
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> <$wikify name="bob" output="html" text=<> >
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's say there was something in a dictionary line like this:
>>>
>>> 2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
>>> presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|
>>> https://www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/ 
>>> 
>>> ]]
>>>
>>> That should get turned into some text and an external hyper-link, 
>>> correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, 
>>>Andrew J. Leer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Single Tiddler storyview?

2018-01-19 Thread BJ
in the info tab of the control panel the animation duration can be set to 
zero to turn off animation.

I remember someone demoing a single tiddler storyview - I think they used a 
limit[1] in a filter but I cannot remember the exact details 

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 4:59:17 PM UTC, TheDiveO wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a single tiddler storyview and I'm aware of the "zoomin" 
> storyview. I've experimented with the zoomin storyview, but I see some 
> obstacles to my particular usecase. Which is a TW used as a video library 
> and player single-HTML app. I could have opted for Angular(JS), but then I 
> really endore the TW core and modularity.
>
> Alas, the obstacles:
>
>1. Irritating animation -- is there some way to disable it short of 
>rewriting the module? Please forgive me in case I've missed a 
> configuration 
>setting already there.
>2. Block closing the last storyview tiddler (or reopen the start 
>tiddler); there should be always a tiddler for my users to interact with, 
>kind of a home tiddler.
>3. Only render the topmost and thus visible tiddler. As a user 
>navigates through the video library watching videos, the stack may contain 
>several rendered (invisible) tiddlers with video players started and 
>consuming many resources. Would it be possible to write a new single 
>storyview to render only the topmost tiddler and discard any previously 
>visible tiddler?
>
> Best regards,
> TheDiveO
>

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[tw] Not finding missing tiddlers

2018-01-19 Thread Steven Schneider
I am trying to (not) list tiddlers that (don't) exist.

If I paste this into a new tiddler at http://tiddlywiki.com (or any 
tiddlywiki most likely): 

<$list filter="[is[tiddler]title[This tiddler does not exist]]">
This tiddler exists: <$link to=<>> <> 



<$list filter="[is[missing]title[This tiddler does not exist]]">
This tiddler is missing: <$link to=<>> <> 




Given that the tiddlywiki does not have a tiddler with title = "This 
tiddler does not exist", I would expect to see nothing at all resulting 
from the first <$list> and a link to a missing tiddler in the second <$list>

Yet, I don't. So I think I'm mis-understanding what [is[tiddler] does, or 
how <$list> works...

Any help much appreciated,

//steve.

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[tw] Re: Formula 0.2: Functional computing & spreadsheet formulas for TiddlyWiki

2018-01-19 Thread Evan Balster
Both formats look good, so I'll take the best parts of each:

   - Unit tests:
  - Tiddlers tagged with FormulaTest.
  - Text is expected to render to TRUE
 - Advanced: If the field match is present on the tiddler, text is 
 instead expected to render to the same result as rendering match.
  - Name using a prefix scheme based on the test subject
 - Bugs: FormulaTest/Regression/
 - Functions: FormulaTest/Functions//
- Function names in ALL CAPS
 - Language: FormulaTest/Feature//
- Feature names being things like "Let", "Function", "Closure", 
"Transclude"
 - Syntax & Compilation: FormulaTest/Compiler//
 - Miscellaneous Tests: FormulaTest/Misc/
  - Additional tiddlers used as data in unit tests:
  - Tag with FormulaTestData.
  - Prefix with the unit test's fully-prefixed name, with an additional 
  slash and name.
   
Ideally, unit tests and bug repros should be submitted on GitHub (see my 
call for unit tests there 
) but uploading 
JSON files in this thread is OK too.

On Friday, 19 January 2018 10:37:43 UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Evan,
>
> I was going to start adding some more, but the format you described above 
> is slightly different than the previous one:
>
>
> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#UnitTest%2FFunctions%2Fnth%2Fsorted-return
>
> Which do you think we should stick with?
>
> Diego 
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 1:28:44 AM UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> Bug(s) confirmed — array and date formatting aren't working correctly.  
>> Need to investigate why.
>>
>> There is also an issue with parsing block comments in Formula 0.2.1, 
>> which has been fixed in the repo.
>>
>> Suggested format for unit-test and bug-repro contributions:
>>
>>- Tag with "FormulaTest"
>>- Prefix "Test/"
>>- Text comprises a single formula construct (of any type) whose 
>>result should render to TRUE, *or* match the result of rendering field 
>>"match" of the tiddler if present.
>>- Submitted as JSON files here
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:18:55 UTC-6, Mr. Mal wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the now and date function not working in this release. May be 
>>> others can confirm this "bug". 
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Best Way to Serve Large Tiddlywiki

2018-01-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I can't give an exact answer.

The 20mbs itself is maybe not the issue. Rather it relates to performance 
on opening. There is a world of difference between simple tiddlers and 
Tiddlers that DO things. So to approach this also look at what the 20mb 
does and how much it sparks other processes. I don't think the issue is 
just about size.

J. x

On Friday, 19 January 2018 20:40:56 UTC+1, Abraham Samma wrote:
>
> I have a question, if anyone can answer it: How well does TiddlyWeb handle 
> very large wikis on a remote connection? By large I mean greater than 
> approaching 20mb or more.
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw] Re: Not finding missing tiddlers

2018-01-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Per the docs:

title is a constructor 
 (except in the form 
!title)

This means that when you put title[This tiddler does not exist] you 
actually *create* a list item.

Switch the filters around:

   [title[This tiddler does not exist]is[tiddler]]

and (2nd filter)

   [title[This tiddler does not exist]is[missing]]

Good luck,

-- Mark

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 12:34:43 PM UTC-8, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> I am trying to (not) list tiddlers that (don't) exist.
>
> If I paste this into a new tiddler at http://tiddlywiki.com (or any 
> tiddlywiki most likely): 
>
> <$list filter="[is[tiddler]title[This tiddler does not exist]]">
> This tiddler exists: <$link to=<>> <> 
> 
> 
>
> <$list filter="[is[missing]title[This tiddler does not exist]]">
> This tiddler is missing: <$link to=<>> <> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Given that the tiddlywiki does not have a tiddler with title = "This 
> tiddler does not exist", I would expect to see nothing at all resulting 
> from the first <$list> and a link to a missing tiddler in the second <$list>
>
> Yet, I don't. So I think I'm mis-understanding what [is[tiddler] does, or 
> how <$list> works...
>
> Any help much appreciated,
>
> //steve.
>

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[tw] Re: wikify widget doesn't accept variable as text attribute?

2018-01-19 Thread leeand00
 Figured it out!  I was using 5.1.14 and I needed 5.1.15 to do it.

On Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:51:13 UTC-5, leeand00 wrote:
>
>
> When iterating over a source dictionary tiddler, is it possible to feed a 
> line (index) from it into the <$wifify> widget's text
> attribute?
>
>
> <$set name="source" value={{!!accomplishments_tiddler}} >
> <$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
>
> <>:<>
>
> <$set name="aline" tiddler=<> index=<> >
>
> <>
>
> <$wikify name="bob" output="html" text=<> >
> <>
> 
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Let's say there was something in a dictionary line like this:
>
> 2017 - Hosted lab by writing example code, creating presentation and 
> presenting it on [[Backup and Disaster Recover Software.|
> https://www.meetup.com/cp-lug/events/245852703/]]
>
> That should get turned into some text and an external hyper-link, correct?
>
>
>
> Thank you, 
>Andrew J. Leer
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com

2018-01-19 Thread stevesuny
Thanks Mat!

It is a smashing success! I'd just reviewed all of the initial submissions 
 and it looks like 32/35 
were successful! (and that was before you make the mods). I think is a 
great solution for new tiddlywiki users, and will continue to use it for 
this class for the next few weeks. I hope TiddlySpot can manage, but I 
expect it will.

I didn't mean to suggest you hadn't improved things -- but it is much 
easier if everything behaves the way tiddlywiki.com says it will. 
TopStoryView is fine, but the sideeditor was just too different. Remember, 
these folks have never seen a tiddlywiki, and they don't have much to work 
with in terms of experience!

//steve.


On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 10:10:40 AM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> stevesuny wrote:
>>
>> Is there a reason that tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com does not create a 
>>> tiddlywiki that would is an empty tiddlywiki (exactly as you would get from 
>>> tiddlywiki.com)? That way, tiddlywiki.com works as a manual, and extra 
>>> plugins like sideeditor and changed settings such as CamelCaseAsLinks are 
>>> consistent across both methods (i.e. use tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com or 
>>> download empty from tiddlywiki.com).
>>>
>>
> Well, the only reason was that I thought of it as improvements ;-)  But, 
> I've removed the SideEditor plugin now.
>
> Actually, I made that whole tiddlyspot setup mainly for you and your 
> students after you and I met in the TiddlyWiki Oxford meetup last summer.
>
> However, I'm keeping Felix Kupper/Hayashi's TopStoryView plugin because 
> the behaviour from it is simply superior compared to default. It scrolls 
> tiddlers to the top of the screen rather than default behaviour which only 
> *sometimes 
> *scroll to top and sometimes to bottom of screen :-/
>
> As for automatic CamelCaseAsLinks gaaah, I really dislike it as 
> default but OK, for you, it is now default. As you can see now, the 
> mentions of TiddlyWiki and TiddlySpot there are now "missing tiddlers"... 
> which surely must be more confusing for your students... or anyone for that 
> matter.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: Building a scraper service for TW5

2018-01-19 Thread TonyM
As a lay philosopher not a licencing expert, my view

I suppose this is all about fair use. If you try and recreat a database it's 
not fair. If you capture bits of it for personal research it is fair. If you 
republish it as your own it may not be. I favor the collaborative approach, if 
you republish part provide a link to the source and promote use of the source, 
this may be reasonable (but not always legal) thus you need to read the IMDb 
licence.

IMDb contains publically available information but if you systematical tax the 
IMDb server then you are stealing their resources.


We are all in this together.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Not finding missing tiddlers

2018-01-19 Thread stevesuny
Thanks Mark. Works like a charm. Never saw the constructor stuff; I think I 
get it; but most importantly, I can write <$list> that fail to return 
results. I do this as kind of an if statement. //steve.

On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Per the docs:
>
> title is a constructor 
> 
>  
> (except in the form !title)
>
> This means that when you put title[This tiddler does not exist] you 
> actually *create* a list item.
>
> Switch the filters around:
>
>[title[This tiddler does not exist]is[tiddler]]
>
> and (2nd filter)
>
>[title[This tiddler does not exist]is[missing]]
>
> Good luck,
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2018 at 12:34:43 PM UTC-8, Steven Schneider wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to (not) list tiddlers that (don't) exist.
>>
>> If I paste this into a new tiddler at http://tiddlywiki.com (or any 
>> tiddlywiki most likely): 
>>
>> <$list filter="[is[tiddler]title[This tiddler does not exist]]">
>> This tiddler exists: <$link to=<>> <> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> <$list filter="[is[missing]title[This tiddler does not exist]]">
>> This tiddler is missing: <$link to=<>> <> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Given that the tiddlywiki does not have a tiddler with title = "This 
>> tiddler does not exist", I would expect to see nothing at all resulting 
>> from the first <$list> and a link to a missing tiddler in the second <$list>
>>
>> Yet, I don't. So I think I'm mis-understanding what [is[tiddler] does, or 
>> how <$list> works...
>>
>> Any help much appreciated,
>>
>> //steve.
>>
>

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[tw] How to automatically edit a field in a tiddler?

2018-01-19 Thread TonyM
Hi,

I am away from my computer but my advice is always store dates in the 
tiddlywiki date serial number format and use the format to display as desired. 
Plugins and more can usualy use tiddlywiki dates not bespoke date formats.

I use the date picker plugin.

If as in the past you now have a set of dates you need bulk reformatting ask 
for help in the forum.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Best Way to Serve Large Tiddlywiki

2018-01-19 Thread TonyM
Noteself has a nice "loading" message on startup that may reassure people the 
browser has not died.

Regards
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[tw] Re: Building a scraper service for TW5

2018-01-19 Thread TonyM
P.s.

I am interested and enthusiastic in developing intergration and conversion into 
tiddlywiki, I also have skills in this area but as I am busy at the moment I 
will lurk for now.

Good stuff
Tony

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[tw] Re: Single Tiddler storyview?

2018-01-19 Thread TonyM
Does setting the tiddlywiki to permaview to help back and forward.

Also use the topleftbar to always maintain something on a page to get someone 
out of trouble. 

I will soon release my menu solution that could help provide a low impact 
access to features from a simple button in a single tiddler story.

Tony

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