[tw] Re: Your TWederation! [The official TWederation brainstorm thread]

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Hi Mat,

I'm sort of torn on this issue. On the one hand, I want to support the 
development efforts of other members of the community and I enjoy thinking 
about technical/design issues too. I can fully understand why you would 
want to do this.

On the other hand, I think there is probably a better path to pursue 
towards these goals, but it's currently much (much, much?) more technically 
abstract. I'm talking about ipfs, which has been recently mentioned by 
Jeremy also.

I might be totally wrong about this, but my reason for thinking it is that 
what you're attempting to do is fundamentally hard. Even if you get it to 
work, I don't think it will ever be secure or scalable. I'm happy to 
discuss why this might be wrong, though.

I think what ipfs gives us, amongst much else, is the notion of serverless 
publishing because everything is essentially published out onto one big 
filing system, distributed across the network. My conjecture is that this 
basically solves the hard problems of federation. 

It is also my belief that TW may prove to be a uniquely interesting tool in 
the context of ipfs in general - it may well turn out that we are sitting 
on a 'killer app' for a platform that is yet to be fully built.

I hope this doesn't sound negative. It may well be that you will learn 
valuable lessons by trying to get 'twederation' to work over http or I 
might be altogether wrong and it might be a roaring success, but I hope 
you'll take the time to look at ipfs if you haven't already. In my opinion, 
this technology or something similar will be the next evolution of the web.

Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Top Toolbar Plugin Question

[Ton Gerner]

Hi reakt...@gmail.com,

The top toolbar was developed with the idea of having all the functionality 
of the sidebar while the sidebar is hidden (there is even a button that can 
open the total sidebar as a separate tiddler). Therefore I choose to always 
show the toolbar which sounded logical to me.

When you want to try to toggle the present top toolbar on/off you have to 
keep the following in mind:

1) The button to toggle the toolbar has to be visible (it can't be part of 
the top toolbar!); may be in the Top Right Bar, next to the toggle sidebar 
button.

2) That button needs to toggle the Toolbar plugin on/off or it needs to 
toggle the tag $:/tags/TopLeftBar from all buttons simultaneously on/off; 
the easiest way would be to tag all buttons with a special tag, so the the 
buttons can be 'found' to reapply the tag $:/tags/TopLeftBar.

3) That button needs to toggle the toolbar CSS - like background color - 
on/off as well.

Cheers,

Ton


On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 8:33:13 PM UTC+2, reakt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hiyas everyone!
>
> I'm still in the process of trying to convert from a customized MPTW 
> themed TWC to TW5 and currently, I'm playing around with the Top Menu 
> Toolbar from TonGerner - http://tw5toolbar.tiddlyspot.com/. Is there a 
> way to toggle the toolbar on/off just like the way the backstage used to 
> work on TWC?
>
>

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[tw] Re: Using tiddlywiki colours within an SVG

[BJ]

Hi Stuart,
there is more than one way of using svg in tiddlywiki.
Motovun Jack.svg is an image tiddler - type image/svg+xml.
you could make a copy of this tiddler and remove the type, the  and 
 tags, then you should be able to use macros for the colour

all the best 
BJ


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> Is there a way to get an SVG, such as Motovun Jack.svg to use the default 
> foreground colour rather than black?  I have tried replacing every 
> reference to black with <>, but this doesn't work.
>
> I work with a pdf that needs to accommodate palette changes and when the 
> colours are inversed the image currently disappears.  
>

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[tw] Your TWederation! [The official TWederation brainstorm thread]

[Mat]

In another thread the topic of TWederation came up and the fact that it all 
is still very fuzzy. *What the heck IS it?! -* A justified question and 
I've put much thought into various concepts for it, but instead of letting 
my own fantasy set artificial limits for what it can be, let's have a joint 
brainstorm!

There are technical limitations and the that will be most(?) obvious when 
we do kick off is that TWederation is based on *fetching* of tiddlers. 
Contrary to servers, tiddlers cannot be fed/pushed to others but tiddlers 
must instead be actively "leeched".

So... I ask the good people; what does this enable? Why? Why not? What's 
better than... what? Who? How BAD? In which way does that have to do with 
beauty? Isn't that impossible? Fetch webpage? Encryption. Context, does 
that change the meaning? Will be created yesterday. Webmail. Threading. 
Ads? Parallel threading. Who cares about technical limitations!!! Block 
inline injection foobar? Stylesheet hangout? Signal! Tikky Widdly.

...you tell us. For fun. That's how ideas are born.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Google Groups is a somewhat UNWIELDY instrument ....

[Ákos Szederjei]

I looked at the alternatives for GoogleGroups for another group, but
there is not much to choose from.

YahooGroups is the only "commercial but free" solution, but no one know
it's future. No point to move there.

If one would like to host one's own GroupServer
(http://groupserver.org/) comes to closest to GoogleGroups capabilities.
I am not sure that is so much better than GoogleGroups, besides being
open source and all.

The rest are mostly mailing list only solution (no web interface) programs.

I came to the same conclusion that GoogleGroups is not particularly
exciting, but there I found nothing better either.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] make the rendered image of the img command a link to open the image in new tab

[Bob Flandard]

Hello Evolena,

Many thanks for your detailed explanatory notes. I shall explore them in 
detail this weekend.

Best wishes, Bob

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[tw] Tiddlywiki tutorial

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello,

Does anyone here know the author of this tutorial?

http://pleasantprogrammer.com/posts/tiddlywiki-in-the-sky-or-tiddlyweb-for-tw5.html

I think he did a very good job.

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[tw] Re: Presenting: StretchText - an alternative to links or popups

['pedruchini' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm afraid I don't have the skills. I'm just a TW5 user who appreciates 
your work and I think that button would be a nice addition.

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[tw] Re: Presenting: StretchText - an alternative to links or popups

['pedruchini' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm afraid I don't have the skills. I'm just a TW5 user who appreciates 
your work and I thinks that button would be a nice addition.

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[tw] Using tiddlywiki colours within an SVG

['Stuart Amor' via TiddlyWiki]

Is there a way to get an SVG, such as Motovun Jack.svg to use the default 
foreground colour rather than black?  I have tried replacing every 
reference to black with <>, but this doesn't work.

I work with a pdf that needs to accommodate palette changes and when the 
colours are inversed the image currently disappears.  

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Responsive modal

[magev958]

Ok, thanks for the quick reply. Then I know that I do not need to spend so 
much time on the problem :)

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Responsive modal

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Magnus

I’m afraid that the problem is that the CSS lightbox relies on setting the 
location hash of the url (the part after the #), and that clashes with 
TiddlyWiki’s use of the location hash to open tiddlers. Sadly, I don’t see an 
easy way around the issue.

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 23 Jun 2016, at 12:49, magev958  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have been trying to build a more responsive lightbox than the built-in 
> tm-modal. I copied the code from 
> http://www.designcouch.com/home/why/2013/11/01/responsive-css3-lightbox-with-no-javascript/
>  and it works, sort of. It use  as opening link which opens the 
> non-exiting tiddler "goofy". It is close to vaccation-time for me so my brain 
> has stopped working now :)
> I'd like help adopt the code to work in TW
> 
> Here is my test TW - http://magnus.playground.tiddlyspot.com/
> 
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[tw] [TW5] Responsive modal

[magev958]

Hi, I have been trying to build a more responsive lightbox than the 
built-in tm-modal. I copied the code 
from 
http://www.designcouch.com/home/why/2013/11/01/responsive-css3-lightbox-with-no-javascript/
 
and it works, sort of. It use  as opening link which opens the 
non-exiting tiddler "goofy". It is close to vaccation-time for me so my 
brain has stopped working now :)
I'd like help adopt the code to work in TW

Here is my test TW - http://magnus.playground.tiddlyspot.com/

/Magnus

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[tw] Re: [TW5] make the rendered image of the img command a link to open the image in new tab

[Evolena]

Let's me try to explain step by step:

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-thumbnail-image">
...

The WidgetButton  creates a button.
The "class" attribute defines how it looks like: "tc-btn-invisible" removes 
the grey box of classic buttons, and "tc-thumbnail-image" is a facility to 
style the image (this class is used for the Thumbnail macro 
 that you can see in action in 
the HelloThere tiddler of tiddlywiki.com).

<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="template/picture" 
url="./images/Blurry%2520Lawn.jpg"/>
The SendMessage action widget 
 allows the button to 
trigger an action by sending a message (and this is why we used a button 
widget: it's currently the only element taht can trigger an action widget), 
here "tm-modal " to 
open a modal window. This message can take parameters:
- "$param" is the title of the displayed tiddler. As we don't have tiddlers 
for our images, I use a template tiddler 
: "template/picture". It acts as a 
skeleton for the content of the modal.
- "url" is a variable (or parameter) for the template

The template contains:
<$image source=<>/>
So the modal will display an image, whose url is the variable set 
previously in the message "tm-modal". 
The ImageWidget  is used because 
the source is not already defined, the [img[]] syntax doesn't work with 
variables.

Finally
<$image source="./images/Blurry%2520Lawn.jpg" width={{!!imagewidth}}/>
displays the "label" of the button, here an image. It is exactly what you 
had at the beginong, but with an ImageWidget instead of [img[]] (which 
could work here).

If you want to create a macro, you would have to replace the name of the 
image with a parameter:

\define macro-image(url)
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-thumbnail-image">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="template/picture" url=
"$url$"/>
<$image source="$url$" width={{!!imagewidth}}/>


And then use it with
<>


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