[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing my Plugin Library

[Andrew]

Thank you all for your input. I will seriously work on that horrible 
background. Sorry for the headaches. This is why I love this group. 
Everyone is willing to pitch in and offer suggestions. Thank you.
@Danielo, absolutely, this is open source stuff. I haven't yet got the 
license stuff in there, but its the same one as the core. Take it, tweak 
it, change it, make your own based on it or even your own plugins with 
parts or all of it. It's all good and free. Yes it lives on github 
at https://github.com/Infurnoape/infurnoape.github.io and I have no idea 
about automatically building things. I am new to github and I really didn't 
know what I was doing so I probably didn't create it right. If anyone would 
care to help me, I was hoping I could figure out how to create tiddlywiki 
pages for the plugins and also migrate my main site t5a.tiddlyspot.com to 
github also. Any suggestions? I promise to change that background, it will 
have to wait a few days though.

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mat
>
> Seriously, you should go Library. And you have a Hooker waiting to do work.
>
> Josiah
>
> Mat wrote:
>>
>> I would probably attempt(!) to add my name to this exclusive list if it 
>> weren't for the fact that plugin libraries ... needs a serious UX make 
>> over. Waaay too obscure 
>>
>

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[tw] Quick Customize -- Save and restore key settings for multiple devices

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This is a tool I came up with awhile ago. I don't use it as much as I hoped 
simply because TW5 is too slow on my ~5 year old devices. But it might work 
for others.

One of the problems with customizing TW5 is that the entire page might 
disappear as you erase and type in new numbers for font's, widths, heights. 
One of the things this tool does is to allow you to flick between usable 
values without passing through the valley of minuscule font sizes.

Moreover, once you find sizes that work for you, you can save them into a 
tiddler for restoration later. This allows you to jump between phones, 
tablets, and desktops without spending a lot of time with adjustments.

One of the compromises I had to make to make this possible is that width 
sizes go in jumps of 10px. Otherwise the scrolling list would have been 
massive. But you can change this if you want to pump in all the numbers ;-)

Be sure to make a backup. Then just download the attached JSON and then 
drag and drop it into your TW5 at the green bar. Import. Open tiddler 
"Quick Customize 8" to make your settings changes. It comes with a setting 
that is close to the stock TW5 default sizes if you don't like the way your 
system looks. Can't guarantee that it's *exactly* the current defaults. It 
comes with a couple of other settings that happen to work with my tablet, 
with mods for use with and without the sidebar. You might find them a good 
starting point for your own customizations.

As usual, use at your own risk. In the event of your capture, hard drive 
failure, or apocalypse, the State department will disavow all knowledge of 
TW5 (honest, they will).

Mark



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Description: application/json

[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[Mat]

@TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
> We spend very little time assessing whether Mother's Children succeeded.
>

I agree with this and it is possibly a huge problem. One problem is that we 
don't know if it is a huge problem. One problem we *do* know is that we 
don't have the tools for such assessment.

I guess it's part of TWs current nature; TW is typically a private matter 
in at least two critical senses: It typically contains private data and it 
is typically stored as a private file. Come to think of it, maybe NSA or 
KGB have loads of valuable stuff on TW offspring.

As usual, I think TWederation is a potential stepping stone to improve 
this. Once we start to connect our TWs it will be much easier to measure 
things.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: TW5 - I have no idea where i went wrong.

[mystikite]

Thanks Eric.
I was looking at 'Transcluding with Templates' for like the 5th time, and 
it smacked me in the face.
It was indeed the lack of '||' before the template tiddler.
Such a small change, so easy to overlook time after time when debugging.




On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:00:28 PM UTC-7, myst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I Have a templated form for a gaming group i'm with.
>> and i SWEAR it was working right, but now...
>>
>> The problem:
>> I have a tiddler  w/ transcludes a template that has macro calls in it.
>>
>
> What syntax are you using to transclude the template?
>
>{{$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
> is used to transclude a tiddler where both the field values and formatting 
> (text field content) are defined in the same tiddler.
>
> However, if you use
>{{SomeTiddler||$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
> then the field values come from "SomeTiddler", but the formatting comes 
> from the "$:/Template/CharacterSheet" template.
>
> ... and, if you omit the "SomeTiddler" (but LEAVE the "||" syntax), like 
> this:
>{{||$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
> then the *current tiddler* is used as the data source with the formatting 
> from the "$:/Template/CharacterSheet" template.
>
> For more details, see:
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20with%20Templates
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 - I have no idea where i went wrong.

[mystikite]

Solution found.

What a MASSIVE difference 2 characters makes.
My tiddler has '{{}}'
Once i changed it to {{||
> I Have a templated form for a gaming group i'm with.
> and i SWEAR it was working right, but now...
>
> The problem:
> I have a tiddler  w/ transcludes a template that has macro calls in it.
>
> When i use the macros to save/edit fields on the tiddler, it is SUPPOSED 
> to be saving the data to $:/Data/$(currentTiddler)$
> Which in my mind shoudl be '$:/Data/My Character.
> What is happening is the data is being ssaved to 
> $:/Data/$:/Template/CharacterSheet !!
>
> Does anyone have an idea why i'm resolving $(currentTiddler)$ as the 
> transcluded template instead of the Active Tiddler?
> Any help, much appreciated.  Below i spell out a lil better the layout.
>
> The layout is:
>
> 1 style tid: $:/Style/CharacterSheet
> Contains CSS.
>
> 1 template tid:   $:/Template/CharacterSheet
> Contains HTML and macro calls like the following:
>
> 
>   
> Notes
> 
>   <>
> 
> 
>   <>   
>  
>   
> 
>
> 1 macro tid:   $:/Macros/CharacterSheet
> Tagged: $:/tags/Macro
> Contains various macros for swapping between display and edit fields. like 
> this one:
> \define text_box(field:nofield size:100 check:nocheck)
> <$reveal type="match" state="!!$check$" text="edit">
> <$edit-text  tiddler="$:/Data/$(currentTiddler)$" index="$field$" 
> size="$size$" tag="textarea" />
> 
> <$reveal type="nomatch" state="!!$check$" text="edit" >
>   <$transclude tiddler="$:/Data/$(currentTiddler)$" index="$field$" 
> mode="block"/>
> 
> \end
>
> 1 tiddler: "My Character"
> contains: 
>  {{$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
> and several fields like:
> e_notes: 'display' or 'edit'  (used to toggle display/edit fields)
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 - I have no idea where i went wrong.

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:00:28 PM UTC-7, myst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I Have a templated form for a gaming group i'm with.
> and i SWEAR it was working right, but now...
>
> The problem:
> I have a tiddler  w/ transcludes a template that has macro calls in it.
>

What syntax are you using to transclude the template?

   {{$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
is used to transclude a tiddler where both the field values and formatting 
(text field content) are defined in the same tiddler.

However, if you use
   {{SomeTiddler||$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
then the field values come from "SomeTiddler", but the formatting comes 
from the "$:/Template/CharacterSheet" template.

... and, if you omit the "SomeTiddler" (but LEAVE the "||" syntax), like 
this:
   {{||$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
then the *current tiddler* is used as the data source with the formatting 
from the "$:/Template/CharacterSheet" template.

For more details, see:
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20with%20Templates

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas" (tm)
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing my Plugin Library

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mat

Seriously, you should go Library. And you have a Hooker waiting to do work.

Josiah

Mat wrote:
>
> I would probably attempt(!) to add my name to this exclusive list if it 
> weren't for the fact that plugin libraries ... needs a serious UX make 
> over. Waaay too obscure 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing my Plugin Library

[Mat]

>
> Jeremy, Tobias and Jed created Libraries
>

...and now @Andrew - very cool!!

I would probably attempt(!) to add my name to this exclusive list if it 
weren't for the fact that plugin libraries, or at least the plugin library 
handler, needs a serious UX make over. Waaay to obscure given how important 
plugins are in TW.

...but that's another matter: 

@Andrew - congratulations!

<:-)

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[tw] TW5 - I have no idea where i went wrong.

[mystikite]

I Have a templated form for a gaming group i'm with.
and i SWEAR it was working right, but now...

The problem:
I have a tiddler  w/ transcludes a template that has macro calls in it.

When i use the macros to save/edit fields on the tiddler, it is SUPPOSED to 
be saving the data to $:/Data/$(currentTiddler)$
Which in my mind shoudl be '$:/Data/My Character.
What is happening is the data is being ssaved to 
$:/Data/$:/Template/CharacterSheet !!

Does anyone have an idea why i'm resolving $(currentTiddler)$ as the 
transcluded template instead of the Active Tiddler?
Any help, much appreciated.  Below i spell out a lil better the layout.

The layout is:

1 style tid: $:/Style/CharacterSheet
Contains CSS.

1 template tid:   $:/Template/CharacterSheet
Contains HTML and macro calls like the following:


  
Notes

  <>


  <>   
 
  


1 macro tid:   $:/Macros/CharacterSheet
Tagged: $:/tags/Macro
Contains various macros for swapping between display and edit fields. like 
this one:
\define text_box(field:nofield size:100 check:nocheck)
<$reveal type="match" state="!!$check$" text="edit">
<$edit-text  tiddler="$:/Data/$(currentTiddler)$" index="$field$" 
size="$size$" tag="textarea" />

<$reveal type="nomatch" state="!!$check$" text="edit" >
  <$transclude tiddler="$:/Data/$(currentTiddler)$" index="$field$" 
mode="block"/>

\end

1 tiddler: "My Character"
contains: 
 {{$:/Template/CharacterSheet}}
and several fields like:
e_notes: 'display' or 'edit'  (used to toggle display/edit fields)



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[tw] Re: Realistic use cases for Tiddlywiki multiuser

[Mat]

My take on it, in very general terms:

1) Same use cases as with a personal TW but with input from multiple brains.
2) Same uses cases 

 
as most other (non-TW) wikis hosted online that anyone can edit.

That probably covers most of it. But there may be special aspects of an 
online-anyone-edit-TW that non-TW's don't feature, that enable use cases 
unique. Beause of my inexperience with other wikis I don't know what these 
might be.

One interesting aspect is what I believe NoteSelf 
 might enable; an intersection between a 
shared wiki and a personal one. A shared workspace(?) where you also have 
personal notes that are really local.

...

To give a concrete use case, I'll mention "family household wikis". This 
has personally been my most important TW application so far... 
 unfortunately with only me adding/editing. Would be great if family 
members could safely edit stuff. 

Professionally, I guess it could be used as an intranet. But much depends 
on how it performs with other software, i.e running applications, manage 
documents etc. So I guess that brings demands outside of the immediate 
question of yours about "tw hosted online that anyone can edit".


<:-)



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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Greg

Its likely mostly because I use a format most people never do. I have three 
desktop screens. One always in portrait. Its very good for bringing out the 
devil you never thought you had :-). 

Josiah

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 23:23:32 UTC+2, Greg Davis wrote:
>
> Thanks Josiah,
>
> Intersting, at 320 by 480 and 360 by 640 and 768 by 1024 in "Reponsive 
> Design Mode" it goes into TiddlyWiki's default "mobile mode" with menu over 
> content. At least that happens on my PC.
>
> It has been awhile since discussions on designing for mobile (phone) use. 
> I don't remember at what screen width TiddlyWiki would automatically 
> switch. That was the reason I kept a menu in the right sidebar.
>
> First reponse I received with a problem. Thanks for the heads-up.
>
> Greg
>

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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[Greg Davis]

Thanks Josiah,

Intersting, at 320 by 480 and 360 by 640 and 768 by 1024 in "Reponsive 
Design Mode" it goes into TiddlyWiki's default "mobile mode" with menu over 
content. At least that happens on my PC.

It has been awhile since discussions on designing for mobile (phone) use. I 
don't remember at what screen width TiddlyWiki would automatically switch. 
That was the reason I kept a menu in the right sidebar.

First reponse I received with a problem. Thanks for the heads-up.

Greg

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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[@TiddlyTweeter]

rather than bleed it gets cut in portrait. its not a big deal. what ratio 
is the USER using? That is what matters unless they want folk reading it on 
mobile phones.





On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 22:55:59 UTC+2, Greg Davis wrote:
>
> I think if you toggle to the menu in the right sidebar, it is useable. At 
> least appears to be when viewed in small portrait screen in Firefox's 
> Redponsive Design Mode.
>
> Greg
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 3:42:12 PM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> They work well on standard widescreens (in portrait not so good as your 
>> get bleed form the menu). Its good to see them though! The MAIN point is 
>> they do what the user needs. 
>>
>> I wish we got to see these everyday. Everyday they are used.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 22:29:32 UTC+2, Greg Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Josiah,
>>>
>>> Well, if you're looking for examples of Tiddlywikis. Helped a friend 
>>> create a couple. They don't quite follow standard TiddlyWiki design, they 
>>> grew bigger than I initially envisioned. (They also need some updating.) 
>>> They were meant to be downloaded for reference off-line. They include many 
>>> embedded pictures so are LARGE.
>>>
>>> A Quick Start Guide,aimed at new users, and a Developer's Guide:
>>>
>>> http://portable3d.tiddlyspot.com
>>>
>>> http://portable3dev.tiddlyspot.com
>>>
>>> Not necessarily something that someone could reuse, but is an example of 
>>> what can be done.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[Greg Davis]

I think if you toggle to the menu in the right sidebar, it is useable. At 
least appears to be when viewed in small portrait screen in Firefox's 
Redponsive Design Mode.

Greg

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 3:42:12 PM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> They work well on standard widescreens (in portrait not so good as your 
> get bleed form the menu). Its good to see them though! The MAIN point is 
> they do what the user needs. 
>
> I wish we got to see these everyday. Everyday they are used.
>
> Josiah
>
> On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 22:29:32 UTC+2, Greg Davis wrote:
>>
>> Hello Josiah,
>>
>> Well, if you're looking for examples of Tiddlywikis. Helped a friend 
>> create a couple. They don't quite follow standard TiddlyWiki design, they 
>> grew bigger than I initially envisioned. (They also need some updating.) 
>> They were meant to be downloaded for reference off-line. They include many 
>> embedded pictures so are LARGE.
>>
>> A Quick Start Guide,aimed at new users, and a Developer's Guide:
>>
>> http://portable3d.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>> http://portable3dev.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>> Not necessarily something that someone could reuse, but is an example of 
>> what can be done.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Realistic use cases for Tiddlywiki multiuser

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Danielo on NoteSelf seems pretty close on this. Partly because he can 
offload much of the issue to a remote database, leaving the TW only to have 
to cope with negotiation. I think that is smart & lightweight.

Josiah

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:36:53 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I find the idea of having a tiddlywiki hosted online that anyone can edit 
> quite intriguing. But I am wondering what use cases would there be for that.
>

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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[@TiddlyTweeter]

They work well on standard widescreens (in portrait not so good as your get 
bleed form the menu). Its good to see them though! The MAIN point is they 
do what the user needs. 

I wish we got to see these everyday. Everyday they are used.

Josiah

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>
> Hello Josiah,
>
> Well, if you're looking for examples of Tiddlywikis. Helped a friend 
> create a couple. They don't quite follow standard TiddlyWiki design, they 
> grew bigger than I initially envisioned. (They also need some updating.) 
> They were meant to be downloaded for reference off-line. They include many 
> embedded pictures so are LARGE.
>
> A Quick Start Guide,aimed at new users, and a Developer's Guide:
>
> http://portable3d.tiddlyspot.com
>
> http://portable3dev.tiddlyspot.com
>
> Not necessarily something that someone could reuse, but is an example of 
> what can be done.
>
> Greg
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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[Greg Davis]

Hello Josiah,

Well, if you're looking for examples of Tiddlywikis. Helped a friend create 
a couple. They don't quite follow standard TiddlyWiki design, they grew 
bigger than I initially envisioned. (They also need some updating.) They 
were meant to be downloaded for reference off-line. They include many 
embedded pictures so are LARGE.

A Quick Start Guide,aimed at new users, and a Developer's Guide:

http://portable3d.tiddlyspot.com

http://portable3dev.tiddlyspot.com

Not necessarily something that someone could reuse, but is an example of 
what can be done.

Greg

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[tw] Re: Realistic use cases for Tiddlywiki multiuser

[stefct4]

I'd love to have such a feature, but for an ordinary tiddlywiki hosted on a 
local company file server. This way, the members of a team could 
collaborate without the need for a hosted service or a web server. The wiki 
could e. g. be used to write a booklet or manual, to collect information 
for a certain project etc.  

In my opinion, this would require revision control, login/user management 
and some mechanism to either prevent or handle simultaneous edits. Would 
this be feasible?

Cheers,

Stef  

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> I find the idea of having a tiddlywiki hosted online that anyone can edit 
> quite intriguing. But I am wondering what use cases would there be for that.
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[tw] Re: Realistic use cases for Tiddlywiki multiuser

[@TiddlyTweeter]

the issue would be about control of the multi-users, I think. Their 
delegated rights would matter to running something real.

I could do with it on a project around the novel Great Expectations where I 
have multiple participants already. Right now I do it through email. If I 
could do it directly in TW I would. 

Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Arlen

It could include that. But I was mostly thinking about the contradiction 
between the "bespokeism" that we, in practice, strongly encourage, 
contrasted with a paucity of tangible completed TWs to look at.

Given ALL the work that is going in daily to help folk solve issues there 
is NO corresponding SHOWCASE of results.

Something like that.

Best wishes
Josiah  

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> To take your question literally, you are asking about forks and spinoffs 
> of Tiddlywiki. Are there any that are active?
>
> On Jun 28, 2017 15:15, "PMario"  wrote:
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>> Hi, 
>> I have absolutely no clue, what you are talking about here!?
>> -m
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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Lol.

I'm obscure, I guess.

I kinda mean that we do much work in this group helping get a TW to work 
(using the baseline of the standard release) ... but we RARELY see the 
results in completed TWs.

I do think its an issue for wider uptake. I don't think most users want to 
have to create a TW, they want to see completed TW in THEIR area of skill 
they can tweak a bit, but not have to create.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Realistic use cases for Tiddlywiki multiuser

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Hello all,
I find the idea of having a tiddlywiki hosted online that anyone can edit
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Re: [tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[Arlen Beiler]

To take your question literally, you are asking about forks and spinoffs of
Tiddlywiki. Are there any that are active?

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[tw] Re: TiddlySmile ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

*As I look up at the stars, wondering about the beautiful incandescence of 
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[tw] Re: Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[PMario]

Hi, 
I have absolutely no clue, what you are talking about here!?
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Re: [tw] Re: Performance comparision between [is[current]] and

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Based on the discussion, "all[current]" or "" but not 
"is[current]".

Mark

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 10:47:12 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> A question from an idiot.
>
> WHICH of the options should I USE? I'm really not interested in how we got 
> here, only in what works best, NOW.
>
> Josiah
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Re: [tw] Re: Performance comparision between [is[current]] and

[@TiddlyTweeter]

A question from an idiot.

WHICH of the options should I USE? I'm really not interested in how we got 
here, only in what works best, NOW.

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Re: [tw] Re: Performance comparision between [is[current]] and

[Evolena]

You shouldn't think of the all operator as "iterate over all tiddlers to 
find the one corresponding to the operand", but as "select all tiddlers 
corresponding to the operand" (as the name "selector operator" suggests). 
That the implementation does or does not iterate over every tiddler is a 
completely separate fact. Even if "select all current tiddlers" happens to 
result in only one tiddler, it has helped me to remind the semantic of the 
operator; first I select, then I filter.

Le mercredi 28 juin 2017 12:21:28 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>
>  [all[current]] doesn't iterate each tiddler (as all[missing] or 
>> all[orphans] do)
>
>
> That's exactly the kind of inconsistency I'm talking about. Personally I 
> have very low confidence on my memory, and this kind of situation, where 
> 99% of the times things behaves one way and there is an 1% that behaves 
> differently really confuses me. I will always doubt and thing it works the 
> opposite it does (that is how my brain works, sorry). That's why having 
> something so clear as  is important to me. Now that I know 
> it has the same performance I will always use it.
>
> Regards
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[tw] Re: [TW5] List indirectly-related Tiddlers

[Fei-Ling Tseng]

Thanks Eric for the pointer. It confused me at first because it didn't work 
out of the box but it definitely led me down the right path!
After adjustments, this is the final code that worked for me:

Products:

<$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]tag[Products]]">
<$view field="title" />



Awards:

<$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]tag[Products]]">
<$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]tag[Awards]]">
<$view field="title" />




Thanks again!

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 8:45:31 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
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> On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 4:54:33 PM UTC-7, Fei-Ling Tseng wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of building the ultimate CV generator for the company 
>> I work for.
>> Just started using TiddlyWiki and am incredibly excited to utilize the 
>> tagging system - a feature I've looked everywhere for.
>>
>> My current problem is this: I want to get a list of Tiddlers that are 
>> indirectly related to the current Tiddler via tagging. The relationship:
>>
>>- There is a Tiddler with the team member's name (John Doe) where I 
>>want a dynamic list of their Products and Awards to appear.
>>- There are Tiddlers with the name of the Product (Thingy) tagged 
>>with the team member's name.
>>- Then there are Tiddlers with the name of the Award (2017 Best 
>>Product in the World) tagged with the product name.
>>- Basically, I want all team members who worked on a Product to also 
>>get the corresponding Awards that are related to that Product.
>>
>> How would I go on about formulating this? I've tried to figure out where 
>> to start but every example I've read up on only goes one relationship deep 
>> - not two.
>>
>
> use nested <$list> widgets, like this:
>
> 
> <$list filter="[tagged]" variable="product">
>   <>
>   
>   <$list filter=[tagged]" variable="award">
> <>
>   
>   
> 
> 
>
> enjoy,
>
> -e
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[tw] Mother begats Mother -- Daughters are spawned anonomously

[@TiddlyTweeter]

The metaphorical matrix of TiddlyWiki has a peculiarity.

We spend an awful lot of time re-creating "Mother" in a fitter form.

We spend very little time assessing whether Mother's Children succeeded.

I would like to think that Our Daughters were doing well, but there seems 
to be no posts home to be sure about that.


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Re: [tw] Re: Is there a way to close a modal together with another button action within the modal?

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hi Jed
Thanks a lot. I did try a lot and Could not imagine it was so easy...
Yours Jan
Jed Carty  schrieb am Mi. 28. Juni 2017 um 08:54:

> Yes, in the context of the modal you just need to close the tiddler, so
> adding this action widget to any button in the modal will do it:
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> <$action-sendmessage $message='tm-close-tiddler'/>
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Re: [tw] Re: Sort tiddlers tittles chronologically

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

That's an easy way to start. But if you expect to have lots of tiddlers 
some day, it might be good to think about how to leverage TW5's various 
tools for listing and editing. When your list becomes large, maintaining 
all those links by hand will become harder.

If you apply a date field, then using PMario's suggested code your list 
might be generated in  a single lines, like:

<>

One line of code, and you have all your dated tiddlers listed!

If you're worried about having to open and add those dates one by one, then 
a couple lines like this can make the job easier:


TiddlerDate
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]]" >
<$view field="title"/><$edit-text field="date" tag="input" 
width="50"/>



You can just type in the date for each tiddler without having to open for 
editing. I used "all[tiddlers]" in the example, but that may be too many 
tiddlers at once. There are ways to manage that, but maybe this is good 
enough for now.

Be sure to test PMario's lister from time to time to make sure that things 
are sorting the way you expect. Generally, for computer sorting purposes, 
you want date fields to be designed to reflect increasing specificity. That 
is, you want your date to look like "-mm-dd" NOT "mm/dd/" because 
the latter will not sort meaningfully.

Good luck!
Mark

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> Hi all.
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 4:32 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> You're overworking the title field
>
>
> ​Maybe it is an easiest approach to use an introductory tiddler as ​index, 
> linking its references to the corresponding content tiddler. Do you agree?
>
> Sorry about this kind of questions… :/
>
> ​Thank you.
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Re: [tw] Re: Export each tiddler plugin?

[David Gifford]

Wow Mark! I have other stuff on my plate today but I will soon give that a
go! Thank you so much for your help.

David Gifford
Resonate Global Mission, Mexico City


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>
> Ok, here we go. If you have your browser set with a default download
> directory, then this code can export a bunch of tiddlers all at once:
>
> \define quotedCurrent() $(currentTiddler)$
> \define filename() $(currentTiddler)$.html
>
> List
>  tiddlers to export with this tag: <$edit-text tag="input" width="50"
>  placeholder="Tag name" tiddler="$:/temp/myfavtag"/>
>
> ---
>
> <$button>Save the following tiddlers
> <$list filter="[tag{$:/temp/myfavtag}]">
> <$action-sendmessage
>  $message="tm-download-file"
> $param="$:/core/templates/exporters/StaticRiver"
> exportFilter=<>
> filename=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> <$list filter="[tag{$:/temp/myfavtag}]">
> <>
> 
>
> HTH
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Re: [tw] Re: Sort tiddlers tittles chronologically

[Eneko Gotzon]

Hi all.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 4:32 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You're overworking the title field


​Maybe it is an easiest approach to use an introductory tiddler as ​index,
linking its references to the corresponding content tiddler. Do you agree?

Sorry about this kind of questions… :/

​Thank you.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing my Plugin Library

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Andrew

Its nice to see your Plugin Library (even though I had to wear polaroid 
sunglasses to cope with the 1965 psychedelics). 

You have made some really neat things! Some of which I was not aware of 
till now. So, thanks!

On a slightly broader point -- Plugin Libraries are good news for everyone. 
It makes the many plugins that have been made more easily accessible. 

And Libraries of Plugin Libraries is a simple form of aggregation that I am 
sure will have great benefits for all.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 06:40:05 UTC+2, Andrew wrote:
>
> It's been on a back burner for awhile now, adding plugins until I finally 
> decided to try to figure out how Jeremy, Tobias and Jed created Libraries 
> for their plugins. Now, I present my Plugin Library 
> . Enjoy, and let me know 
> what you think.
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Re: [tw] Re: Performance comparision between [is[current]] and

[Danielo Rodríguez]

>
>  [all[current]] doesn't iterate each tiddler (as all[missing] or 
> all[orphans] do)


That's exactly the kind of inconsistency I'm talking about. Personally I 
have very low confidence on my memory, and this kind of situation, where 
99% of the times things behaves one way and there is an 1% that behaves 
differently really confuses me. I will always doubt and thing it works the 
opposite it does (that is how my brain works, sorry). That's why having 
something so clear as  is important to me. Now that I know 
it has the same performance I will always use it.

Regards

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[tw] Re: Is there a way to close a modal together with another button action within the modal?

[Jed Carty]

Yes, in the context of the modal you just need to close the tiddler, so 
adding this action widget to any button in the modal will do it:

<$action-sendmessage $message='tm-close-tiddler'/>


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[tw] Re: Hide groups of fields in the EditTemplate based on prefix?

[Jed Carty]

This isn't directly related to your question, but in my experience it is 
better to separate the visualisation and data parts. I normally have many 
data tiddler that have as many fields or indexes as needed and then have 
one viewer tiddler where you select what you want to view. It lets you 
decide what is shown and editable and what isn't without having to worry 
about what is stored in the tiddler you are currently looking at.

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