[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[Ste Wilson]

Just a quick thought but a few weeks ago someone put a 'preview in seperate 
window' button up on here. So you could remain in edit mode and see a live 
preview with a bit of alt-tabbing. Quick fix perhaps? 

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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[TonyM]

Folks,

Clearly you have all being responding while I sleep here in Sydney. I 
really appreciate your feedback and ideas. I see why It is a challenge that 
I did not think trough too much, just defined the desire.

FYI, I was in my Big Data course last night with my laptop, typing in notes 
as we worked, using bash, Vi, AWS, PDF files with commands and more. 
Tiddlywiki is brilliant at providing a tool for this but during a class you 
don't have time to excise pieces of text to simplify. This is why a long 
tiddler developed, and I needed to return to it often, usually to the 
bottom but not always, it is this transition between displayed tiddler and 
editing a tiddler that is attention/cognitively demanding.especially when 
you want to edit something earlier in the text.

Leaving the tiddler in edit/Preview mode along with the Save and Keep open 

 
by Thomas Elmiger (that looses the cursor place) but 
Birthe says *Using the keyboard shortcut for saving, the tiddler stays in 
edit mode and you can keep writing at exactly the same point. Nice when 
writing longer text. (eh tiddlers and long text..]*
I may combine this with tiddlers bar so I can keep the long tiddler open 
but out of the way.

Two thoughts that may inspire you further after reading all your comments.

   1. If we could toggle a view mode, that shows the tiddler un wikified, a 
   click to edit at cursor would be much simpler and accurate, you could even 
   have it only work when in view mode reducing the problems with stray clicks.
   2. Perhaps I could be using preview mode a little more, click to edit is 
   not so difficult then, but I could imagine in preview clicking in the right 
   preview could highlight the position in the left (edit panel)
   I understand that clicking on a transcluded item could only put the 
   cursor near the line that does the transcluding. 
   

Of course as Mario points out, the work, given the architecture of 
tiddlywiki may be difficult, and all your efforts better directed, However 
we are a creative bunch and expect we can find a way to a solution that 
supports editing and returning to mid to large tiddlers. 


Regards

Tony

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyServer as a Mac App

[Arlen Beiler]

Possibly. I'll have to check into it sometime.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 5:26 PM, RichardWilliamSmith <
richardwilliamsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Arlen,
>
> But you can still compile your server against nexe to get a single
> executable, right?
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Friday, September 29, 2017 at 5:08:32 AM UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Windows has no equivalent feature. The closest to it would be the
>> start.bat file. In a future release I will try to sort out the file
>> structure so it is easier to understand.
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2017 6:13 AM, "RichardWilliamSmith" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Profound apologies if anyone tried this while it was broken. For it was
>> broken. It's fixed now. For some value of fixed.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:37:36 PM UTC+10, RichardWilliamSmith
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Further to my recent explorations with Tiddlyserver, I *think* I've
>>> managed to bundle it into an executable for the MacOS that should "just
>>> work" (famous last words).
>>>
>>> You can download a zip file from here: https://github.com/r1cha
>>> rd5mith/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.6
>>>
>>> That should unzip to reveal a single icon, the double clicking of which
>>> might (should) launch a terminal window with Tiddlyserver running. It's
>>> preconfigured to run on port 8889 and to serve to 0.0.0.0 (the terminal
>>> window will tell you the full address including your local ip address)
>>>
>>> There are instructions on how you can change the settings and a link to
>>> a bit more info about how I made it.
>>>
>>> I'd be really grateful if you could let me know if it works, if you're
>>> able to test it. It doesn't install anything and the download is only ~18
>>> Mb, but please treat it as a 'beta' and don't trust anything important to
>>> it initially.
>>>
>>> Hopefully Arlen doesn't mind me releasing it this way? Maybe it is worth
>>> trying a similar method for Windows? I'm not able to try myself, I'm
>>> afraid. Whatever you would prefer, just let me know.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Richard
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyServer as a Mac App

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Hi Arlen,

But you can still compile your server against nexe to get a single 
executable, right?

Regards,
Richard

On Friday, September 29, 2017 at 5:08:32 AM UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Windows has no equivalent feature. The closest to it would be the 
> start.bat file. In a future release I will try to sort out the file 
> structure so it is easier to understand. 
>
> On Sep 28, 2017 6:13 AM, "RichardWilliamSmith"  > wrote:
>
> Profound apologies if anyone tried this while it was broken. For it was 
> broken. It's fixed now. For some value of fixed.
>
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:37:36 PM UTC+10, RichardWilliamSmith 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All, 
>>
>> Further to my recent explorations with Tiddlyserver, I *think* I've 
>> managed to bundle it into an executable for the MacOS that should "just 
>> work" (famous last words).
>>
>> You can download a zip file from here: 
>> https://github.com/r1chard5mith/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.6
>>
>> That should unzip to reveal a single icon, the double clicking of which 
>> might (should) launch a terminal window with Tiddlyserver running. It's 
>> preconfigured to run on port 8889 and to serve to 0.0.0.0 (the terminal 
>> window will tell you the full address including your local ip address)
>>
>> There are instructions on how you can change the settings and a link to a 
>> bit more info about how I made it.
>>
>> I'd be really grateful if you could let me know if it works, if you're 
>> able to test it. It doesn't install anything and the download is only ~18 
>> Mb, but please treat it as a 'beta' and don't trust anything important to 
>> it initially.
>>
>> Hopefully Arlen doesn't mind me releasing it this way? Maybe it is worth 
>> trying a similar method for Windows? I'm not able to try myself, I'm 
>> afraid. Whatever you would prefer, just let me know.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyServer as a Mac App

[Arlen Beiler]

Windows has no equivalent feature. The closest to it would be the start.bat
file. In a future release I will try to sort out the file structure so it
is easier to understand.

On Sep 28, 2017 6:13 AM, "RichardWilliamSmith" <
richardwilliamsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Profound apologies if anyone tried this while it was broken. For it was
broken. It's fixed now. For some value of fixed.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:37:36 PM UTC+10, RichardWilliamSmith
wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Further to my recent explorations with Tiddlyserver, I *think* I've
> managed to bundle it into an executable for the MacOS that should "just
> work" (famous last words).
>
> You can download a zip file from here: https://github.com/r1cha
> rd5mith/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.6
>
> That should unzip to reveal a single icon, the double clicking of which
> might (should) launch a terminal window with Tiddlyserver running. It's
> preconfigured to run on port 8889 and to serve to 0.0.0.0 (the terminal
> window will tell you the full address including your local ip address)
>
> There are instructions on how you can change the settings and a link to a
> bit more info about how I made it.
>
> I'd be really grateful if you could let me know if it works, if you're
> able to test it. It doesn't install anything and the download is only ~18
> Mb, but please treat it as a 'beta' and don't trust anything important to
> it initially.
>
> Hopefully Arlen doesn't mind me releasing it this way? Maybe it is worth
> trying a similar method for Windows? I'm not able to try myself, I'm
> afraid. Whatever you would prefer, just let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark

When I arrived in TW I was well used to TinyMCE & CKEditor WYSIWYG editors. 
Over the last year I've grown to like WikiText & markup--I never used "such 
weird things" before. At the start I thought they were a totally ridiculous 
anachronism. But they HAVE efficiency & I have grown to like them. But they 
are NOT primarily visual. WYSIWYG editing I think is closer to surface and 
has a lot going for it. All this has existential implications :-).

Best wishes
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:

> MediaWikia (and thus Wikipedia) is about to get a visual editor. Which 
> means that soon there will be an expectation that anything calling itself a 
> wiki will also have WYSIWYG.
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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> Isn't this issue partly about that TW's editor is not WYSIWYG? 
>

MediaWikia (and thus Wikipedia) is about to get a visual editor. Which 
means that soon there will be an expectation that anything calling itself a 
wiki will also have WYSIWYG.

Mark

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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Sylvain

I'll love to see an edit mode but directly in render mode
>

You mean "WYSIWYG" editing (even if with limits)?

Best wishes
Josiah


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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Isn't this issue partly about that TW's editor is not WYSIWIG? 

There is a mindset that code and "surface" differ. IF it were WYSIWIG it 
might be different. 

Work like Telmiger's on ToDoNow  
bring the already existing differential metaphors of editing nearer the 
surface. Its not so difficult, it seems, to access the editor in context.

This comment is not exactly addressing the initial question BUT I think its 
relevant to it in the senses of "mark my last editing place" and "open the 
editor here, on click" are more than just a tech issue. They are a 
fundamental usage concept, I think.

Just thoughts
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Danielo has a double-click-to-edit plugin.
>

That is a *great gadget 
*. Very 
robust & useful. Design wise it allows you to switch OFF permanently all 
excess buttons. 
 
J.

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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[Sylvain Naudin]

Hi Tony,

I agree with you about editing long text, it will be a good with standard 
text (not transclude and other TW tricks).

I've see in this groups another approach, that opening a new window tiddler 
to contribute in edit mode, and see regular result on river story.
Or you have Matt plugin to edit close to the river.
But it's steal difficult with wikitext format or own macro code sometimes.

I'll love to see an edit mode but directly in render mode, like some JS 
script on html5. It will not work with transclude, just for adding/delete 
text (and basic like bold) in the current tiddler.

Regards,
Sylvain


Le jeudi 28 septembre 2017 06:14:42 UTC+2, TonyM a écrit :
>
> Folks,
>
> I am working on making notes taking in class really easy, and I noticed 
> something I have come to accept with tiddlywiki that would be great to fix. 
> Perhaps its not possible but I thought I would ask.
>
> When you have a long tiddler you are writing it is nice to save and view 
> it in view mode, but it is a real pain returning to somewhere in the text 
> to continue editing. There was a click to edit feature in TWC where 
> clicking in the content would allow you to edit the content, but It would 
> be really good if once you clicked at a point on the the tiddler it would 
> open for edit with the cursor placed in the text where you clicked (or 
> Double Clicked, Ctrl-Clicked).
>
> I have recently created a Tag that once added to a code tiddler Displays 
> text un-wikified in view template at bottom of tiddlers tagged ShowCode. 
> The same would be good for developing if we could click into that to edit 
> and move the cursor. Alternatively we could have a view tiddler toolbar 
> item (to show text/code) un processed we could click into.
>
> I imagine what I dream of is difficult or impossible but I think it would 
> make a big difference to tiddlywiki usability.
>
>
>- What do you think?
>- Any ideas how?
>- Unfortunately I do not have the skills to do this
>
> Tony
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[@TiddlyTweeter]

The problem with 57 is that TiddlyFox saving will NOT work. That is exactly 
why I'll be on ESR 52 till March 2018 for daily. Its secure, but behind. J.

On Thursday, 28 September 2017 18:50:45 UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>
> hm. well,  it was worth a shot. 
>
> yeah,  but things are looking up. Hope 57 lives up to th hype
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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Danielo has a double-click-to-edit plugin. I tend to leave it off because 
so often I want to double-click inside a field to select everything. I 
never released how often I did this until I installed the plugin.

The somewhat obvious solution to the "click to edit at cursor" problem 
would be to do everything the "TW5 way" (tm). That is, make sure your text 
never exceeds a few paragraphs. That way you can always quickly get back to 
your text.

I can imagine making an interface which displays a series of lines as input 
fields (each line would represent either a tiddler or a tiddler field). 
Small buttons would let you work on a line, insert new lines, split a line. 
This would provide cursor-at-line resolution. All of your text except the 
working line would be rendered for viewing so you'd have an almost wysiwyg 
experience.

Mark

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 8:07:27 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 6:14:42 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> There was a click to edit feature in TWC where clicking in the content 
>> would allow you to edit the content,
>>
>
> This behaviour was removed by design. For "casual" visitors of your page 
> it created a very unexpected behaviour. eg: They wanted to "double-click 
> mark content" to copy paste it. When the editor opened, they thought, they 
> broke the internet / web page ;)
>  
>
>> but It would be really good if once you clicked at a point on the the 
>> tiddler it would open for edit with the cursor placed in the text where you 
>> clicked (or Double Clicked, Ctrl-Clicked).
>>
>
> The rendered HTML text has no knowledge where it came from eg: 
>
> Some text
>
> {{myText}}
>
> may be rendered as 
>
> Some text
>
> Some more text
>
> So what should clicking Some more text, do now? ... 
>
> Either open the tiddler named: myText or edit the tiddler which is 
> actually open? ... Whatever we implement will be wrong. ... 
>
> So it'll need to be adjustable or ctrl-Dbl-Click vs Alt-Dbl-Click  or 
> what ever. 
>
> ... BUT ... 
>
> The bigger problem is. Some more text  doesn't know, that it belongs to 
> myText 
> tiddler. 
> The possibility of transclusions, lists and so on, makes it *really hard* 
> to calculate the position in the source  text, based on the rendered cursor 
> position.
>
> "really hard" as in: 
>
>
>- We need to extend the functionality of the "wikitext parser", that 
>it stores source positions of every element in TWs internal structure: the 
>"parse-tree". 
>- The parse-tree is converted into the widget-tree, which also needs 
>to deal with this new info now. ... 
>- The renderer, which uses the widget-tree needs to write this info 
>into the html-output.
>- The navigator-widget finally has to deal with the new "double 
>clicks" to open the corresponding tiddler + selecting the right position 
> in 
>the source code. 
>
> Which basically means "rewriting" most of the parsing -> rendering 
> pipeline. .. 
>
> IMO it still is an interesting idea, since we could make some other 
> improvements along the way. Eg store the tiddler content in a different 
> format and *partially *convert TW syntax -> markdown -> TW syntax.   
>
> I have recently created a Tag that once added to a code tiddler Displays 
>> text un-wikified in view template at bottom of tiddlers tagged ShowCode. 
>> The same would be good for developing if we could click into that to edit 
>> and move the cursor. Alternatively we could have a view tiddler toolbar 
>> item (to show text/code) un processed we could click into.
>>
>> I imagine what I dream of is difficult or impossible but I think it would 
>> make a big difference to tiddlywiki usability.
>>
>>
>>- What do you think?
>>
>> It's doable and has some advantages ... It just isn't easy ;)
>
>
>>- Any ideas how?
>>
>> See above.
>  
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[Rizwan Ishak]

hm. well,  it was worth a shot.

yeah,  but things are looking up. Hope 57 lives up to th hype

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>
> Thanks for trying.
>
> It didn't work ...
>
>
>
> I hadn't realised that this kind of layout was still not so supported.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Riz,

Thanks for trying.

It didn't work ...



I hadn't realised that this kind of layout was still not so supported.

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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 6:14:42 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> There was a click to edit feature in TWC where clicking in the content 
> would allow you to edit the content,
>

This behaviour was removed by design. For "casual" visitors of your page it 
created a very unexpected behaviour. eg: They wanted to "double-click mark 
content" to copy paste it. When the editor opened, they thought, they broke 
the internet / web page ;)
 

> but It would be really good if once you clicked at a point on the the 
> tiddler it would open for edit with the cursor placed in the text where you 
> clicked (or Double Clicked, Ctrl-Clicked).
>

The rendered HTML text has no knowledge where it came from eg: 

Some text

{{myText}}

may be rendered as 

Some text

Some more text

So what should clicking Some more text, do now? ... 

Either open the tiddler named: myText or edit the tiddler which is actually 
open? ... Whatever we implement will be wrong. ... 

So it'll need to be adjustable or ctrl-Dbl-Click vs Alt-Dbl-Click  or 
what ever. 

... BUT ... 

The bigger problem is. Some more text  doesn't know, that it belongs to myText 
tiddler. 
The possibility of transclusions, lists and so on, makes it *really hard* 
to calculate the position in the source  text, based on the rendered cursor 
position.

"really hard" as in: 


   - We need to extend the functionality of the "wikitext parser", that it 
   stores source positions of every element in TWs internal structure: the 
   "parse-tree". 
   - The parse-tree is converted into the widget-tree, which also needs to 
   deal with this new info now. ... 
   - The renderer, which uses the widget-tree needs to write this info into 
   the html-output.
   - The navigator-widget finally has to deal with the new "double clicks" 
   to open the corresponding tiddler + selecting the right position in the 
   source code. 

Which basically means "rewriting" most of the parsing -> rendering 
pipeline. .. 

IMO it still is an interesting idea, since we could make some other 
improvements along the way. Eg store the tiddler content in a different 
format and *partially *convert TW syntax -> markdown -> TW syntax.   

I have recently created a Tag that once added to a code tiddler Displays 
> text un-wikified in view template at bottom of tiddlers tagged ShowCode. 
> The same would be good for developing if we could click into that to edit 
> and move the cursor. Alternatively we could have a view tiddler toolbar 
> item (to show text/code) un processed we could click into.
>
> I imagine what I dream of is difficult or impossible but I think it would 
> make a big difference to tiddlywiki usability.
>
>
>- What do you think?
>
> It's doable and has some advantages ... It just isn't easy ;)


>- Any ideas how?
>
> See above.
 
have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[Rizwan Ishak]

Can you drag and drop the attached json and see? I have tracked down some
old compatible property declarations. It might work.

On 28 September 2017 at 19:56, Rizwan Ishak 
wrote:

> Apparently firefox started supporting it since 54 onwards
>
> https://caniuse.com/#search=flex
>
> On 28 September 2017 at 19:32, @TiddlyTweeter 
> wrote:
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>> EEK! I hate that kind of complexity.
>>
>> Riz wrote:
>>>
>>> ... firefox 55 in linux and things are working without glitch here.
>>>
>>> @TiddlyTweeter
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 ... in ... Firefox ESR (Windows 64-bit Portable Apps. Version) -- v.
> 52.3. But ...
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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[Rizwan Ishak]

Apparently firefox started supporting it since 54 onwards

https://caniuse.com/#search=flex

On 28 September 2017 at 19:32, @TiddlyTweeter 
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>
> Riz wrote:
>>
>> ... firefox 55 in linux and things are working without glitch here.
>>
>> @TiddlyTweeter
>>
>>> ... in ... Firefox ESR (Windows 64-bit Portable Apps. Version) -- v.
 52.3. But ...

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[tw] Re: Just Dreaming - click to edit at Cursor

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao TonyM

The TW editor is like in a "different mode" than a lot of the rest of TW. 
But its a hell of a lot better than it was even a year ago. "Marking the 
spot", where your cursor last was on save ("remember my position") has a 
lot of merit for LONG documents. I have no idea if its possible to have 
that re-entrant.

FWIW, my biggest problem with the editor on long documents is "judder" ... 
it updates itself but then doesn't quite know how long it is and can start 
to jiggle.

Best wishes
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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[@TiddlyTweeter]

EEK! I hate that kind of complexity.

Riz wrote:
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> ... firefox 55 in linux and things are working without glitch here.
>
> @TiddlyTweeter 
>
>> ... in ... Firefox ESR (Windows 64-bit Portable Apps. Version) -- v. 
>>> 52.3. But ...
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[Rizwan Ishak]

I am working on firefox 55 in linux and things are working without glitch
here. Let me see what I can do.

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>>
>> I am actually worried about Firefox in that list, in that list. Can you
>> confirm if it is the latest version of firefox or firefox ESR? The closest
>> windows computer I have access to is like 50+ kms away.
>>
>
> Its the latest Firefox ESR (Windows 64-bit Portable Apps. Version) -- v.
> 52.3. But, essentially it will be the same for later versions, I think.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Riz wrote:
>
> I am actually worried about Firefox in that list, in that list. Can you 
> confirm if it is the latest version of firefox or firefox ESR? The closest 
> windows computer I have access to is like 50+ kms away. 
>

Its the latest Firefox ESR (Windows 64-bit Portable Apps. Version) -- v. 
52.3. But, essentially it will be the same for later versions, I think. 

Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[Rizwan Ishak]

I am actually worried about Firefox in that list, in that list. Can you
confirm if it is the latest version of firefox or firefox ESR? The closest
windows computer I have access to is like 50+ kms away.

IE is disappointing but it is pointless to please that. If IE with close to
10% share of users is not a huge deal, Edge with less than 4% can be also
chucked.

That said, it would be seriously rad to support everything.

On 28 September 2017 at 16:56, @TiddlyTweeter 
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> Caro Riz ...
>
> Just noting that I think its got some (probably esoteric) CSS issues ...
>
> -- On Chrome (win) it works well.
>
> -- On Opera (win) it works.
>
> -- On Firefox (win) it breaks on scroll right.
>
> -- On IE its unusable (not a big deal).
>
> -- On Edge it doesn't work--and that's an issue.
>
> -- Safari I haven't tried.
>
> It seems to me there are two aspects to this ... Trelloish for local and
> Trelloish for broadcast.
>
> To be able to use this reliably publicly i need know it renders well, or
> degrades well.
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> Best wishes
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set Background for Tiddler Toolbar only

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Thaks heaps.

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[tw] Re: Query: Editor Fonts -- Is Live Change Possible?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Thanks PMario

j.

On Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:41:16 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
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> Hi
> see PR: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2867
> -m
>
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[tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Caro Riz ...

Just noting that I think its got some (probably esoteric) CSS issues ...

-- On Chrome (win) it works well.

-- On Opera (win) it works.

-- On Firefox (win) it breaks on scroll right.

-- On IE its unusable (not a big deal).

-- On Edge it doesn't work--and that's an issue.

-- Safari I haven't tried.

It seems to me there are two aspects to this ... Trelloish for local and 
Trelloish for broadcast.

To be able to use this reliably publicly i need know it renders well, or 
degrades well.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Query: Editor Fonts -- Is Live Change Possible?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao all,


I posted this to Github 
 ... then realised 
folk here might have interest in it too, and competence for it ...


When you are doing CODING using MONOSPACED fonts is much better.
>
>
> For normal texts PROPORTIONAL is better.
>
>
> Any chance of a toggle between them, live, in the Editor?
>

Best wishes
Josiah 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyServer as a Mac App

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Profound apologies if anyone tried this while it was broken. For it was 
broken. It's fixed now. For some value of fixed.

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:37:36 PM UTC+10, RichardWilliamSmith 
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> Hi All, 
>
> Further to my recent explorations with Tiddlyserver, I *think* I've 
> managed to bundle it into an executable for the MacOS that should "just 
> work" (famous last words).
>
> You can download a zip file from here: 
> https://github.com/r1chard5mith/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.6
>
> That should unzip to reveal a single icon, the double clicking of which 
> might (should) launch a terminal window with Tiddlyserver running. It's 
> preconfigured to run on port 8889 and to serve to 0.0.0.0 (the terminal 
> window will tell you the full address including your local ip address)
>
> There are instructions on how you can change the settings and a link to a 
> bit more info about how I made it.
>
> I'd be really grateful if you could let me know if it works, if you're 
> able to test it. It doesn't install anything and the download is only ~18 
> Mb, but please treat it as a 'beta' and don't trust anything important to 
> it initially.
>
> Hopefully Arlen doesn't mind me releasing it this way? Maybe it is worth 
> trying a similar method for Windows? I'm not able to try myself, I'm 
> afraid. Whatever you would prefer, just let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
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[tw] TiddlyServer as a Mac App

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Hi All, 

Further to my recent explorations with Tiddlyserver, I *think* I've managed 
to bundle it into an executable for the MacOS that should "just work" 
(famous last words).

You can download a zip file from 
here: https://github.com/r1chard5mith/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.6

That should unzip to reveal a single icon, the double clicking of which 
might (should) launch a terminal window with Tiddlyserver running. It's 
preconfigured to run on port 8889 and to serve to 0.0.0.0 (the terminal 
window will tell you the full address including your local ip address)

There are instructions on how you can change the settings and a link to a 
bit more info about how I made it.

I'd be really grateful if you could let me know if it works, if you're able 
to test it. It doesn't install anything and the download is only ~18 Mb, 
but please treat it as a 'beta' and don't trust anything important to it 
initially.

Hopefully Arlen doesn't mind me releasing it this way? Maybe it is worth 
trying a similar method for Windows? I'm not able to try myself, I'm 
afraid. Whatever you would prefer, just let me know.

Regards,
Richard

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