[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi Evan,

I'm trying your plugin now and I've seen that the modulo function doesn't 
work as I expect,

maybe I'm doing something wrong or there's a bug

all the best,
Simon

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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter: Two Plugins to save the StoryRiver and present it as PowerPoint Style Presentation

2018-01-12 Thread Dave
Hi, I'm trying out your presenter  TW and really like it.

How do you make color tags besides the <<| red>> one?  I tried <<| blue>> 
and <<| green>> but nothing happened.


thanks,
Dave

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC


*SAVE THE GRIDS?*
>
> Like saving a story river. But in Grid Mode.
>
> Use cases: I imagine one grid for substantive WORK, and another grid that 
> is, say, concerned with CONFIGURATION. I think the point is that we might 
> be able to do most everything via gridded layouts.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah 
>

Saving grids is just a button that saves the storylist in another field or 
tiddler
I like the tiddly way of being able to open everything wherever,whenever 
(shakira shakira)

I don't really want to limit a view to special use-cases, everything should 
be doable everywhere,
I just want to provide flexibility in viewing and workflows

Simon

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Re: [tw] Announcing v0.0.10 of TiddlyDesktop

2018-01-12 Thread Eneko Gotzon
Thank you very much for your work Jeremy (sorry for the delay, due to heavy
workload).

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> I’m happy to announce the release of v0.0.10 of TiddlyDesktop:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.10
>
> It features a couple of important bug fixes and an update to the latest
> Chromium/nw.js.
>
> Questions/comments welcome.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
Just a little remainder, to keep this wonderful tool generic against 
tiddlywiki design.

I can choose many ways to get what I want open in the story view, including 
a button that open list of tiddlers via tags and filters. There is no 
reason why Muuris tiles should not follow the same method, and why I 
shopuld not be able to switch between them. Even the kanban solutions could 
be used to organise tiles in lists that are then displayed as tiles. 

We need to keep going back to the general capabilities of TiddlyWiki 
because this is where we gain extensibility in the future.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Local files with TiddlyDesktop or TiddlyServer?

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
Jon,

I am using TiddlyDesktop now for my large TWC. I was using firefox and also 
TW5 for what I call desktop intergration, a rich interaction with my 
windows 10 file system, but I have put this on hold with the Browser clamp 
downs. 
I do not need to read/write via Javascript, perhaps this is a question for 
the TiddlyWikiDev forum but Mark S. and other can help here.

Once something is a tiddler of course you have more control, so the import, 
export tools and the code behind them should help.

Regards
Tony

Rehards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
Passingby,

For the record I have the same problem with a multiple date solution I have 
built and need an effective solution. I am at +10 and +11 in daylight 
savings time (DST). If I wish to add or subtract a date say to next week, 
yesterday or tomorrow, the result is not always friendly.

I would like to click into automatic DST, or have my current date/time 
reflect my browsers at all times,

Lets share our learnings.

Tony

On Friday, 12 January 2018 19:06:11 UTC+11, passingby wrote:
>
> I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker from 
> here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/
>
> If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
> and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
> back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
> anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?
>

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[tw] Re: Background color from color palette

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
steve

I do not know the full answer, but expect I could find it, there is much 
valuable info following the trail in your own tiddlywiki. I believe there 
is a macro for setting colours to values found in the pallet that 
tiddlywiki uses itself.

Evan has also being developing solutions to allow you to use values from 
fields, variables and macros in html tags as well.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: What's "$:/"?

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
To boost previous descriptions

It is a naming standard

It is a naming standard that defines a System tiddler. System tiddlers are 
treated a little differently, such as not being listed in search results 
unless you use advanced search or [is[system]] in a filter.

Most systems tiddlers are created within and from the core, however they 
are also used from plugins and temporary tiddlers, can be used by you and 
cloned if required.

The other way tiddlers are often treated differently is if they are tagged 
with other system tiddlers eg;

$:/tags/ViewToolbar
$:/tags/ViewTemplatefooter
$:/tags/ViewTemplate
$:/tags/TextEditor/Snippet
$:/tags/SideBar
$:/tags/PageControls
$:/tags/Macro
$:/PSaT/ActionTagged/Macro

Or have special fields
like caption

See also information on shadow tiddlers, which also often use the $:/ 
prefix.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, 13 January 2018 02:22:07 UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao skrev
>
> Birthe's link is useful. BUT, actually you can make ANY tiddler a "system 
> tiddler" by prefixing it with "$:/". What is does is exclude it from the 
> normal search--you can only find it in Advanced Search. The POINT of it is 
> to hide things you don't want to come up in normal searches (generally 
> macros, configuration and anything else to do with the setup of the TW) . 
> The thinking behind it is that in normal search you just want to see your 
> basic CONTENT, not bits of the mechanism behind creating it.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> You can find an explanation of system tiddlers here:
>>  https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTiddlers 
>> 
>>
>> skrev mlomailom:
>>>
>>> I don't understand what "$:/" means. I've seen this notation in system 
>>> tags.
>>> How do I interpret it and what does it do?
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Replace copy/paste bullets with TW Style?

2018-01-12 Thread TonyM
Stobt,

Hopefully someone will point out prior work one this. However

This would be very helpful but it may be more meaning full to provide 
information on the current result of such copy and paste actions, what is 
appearing after pasting bullets from word, excel, html pages, text only 
pastes etc... such that we can see what needs to change. This would help us 
identify the actions required, and see if any existing tools can help if 
not solve your problem.

Example Copy iconised buttet list from https://inkscape.org/en/

(1) Pastes here 

   - Flexible drawing tools 
   - Broad file format compatibility 
   - Powerful text tool 
   - Bezier and spiro curves

(2) A text editor and tiddlywiki edit mode receives

Flexible drawing tools
Broad file format compatibility
Powerful text tool
Bezier and spiro curves

But dragging the content and dropping it on a TiddlyWiki, and importing
Displays as in case (1)
The content of the imported tiddler is HTML


Flexible drawing tools
Broad file format compatibility
Powerful text tool
Bezier and spiro curves


This is a reasonable working alternative?

If you then defined ticks, wa la


Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Local files with TiddlyDesktop or TiddlyServer?

2018-01-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
What do you mean by "local files... impossible with current browsers" ? 
Have you seen https://pmario.github.io/file-backups/ ?

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On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 3:08:18 PM UTC-8, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have some highly modified TWCs that are important but way too much 
> trouble to convert to TW5 (until maybe retirement puts a lot of time into 
> my hands).
>
> It would be very useful for a couple of these to be able to read and write 
> local files. Impossible with current browsers, but perhaps possible with 
> TiddlyDesktop or TiddlyServer? If so, can someone spoon-feed me some basics 
> to help me get started? I'm experienced with TW, but not at all experienced 
> with nodejs or nw. The files could be either ordinary text files or 
> externally stored tiddlers, it doesn't really matter, as long as I can read 
> and write them with javascript.
>
> Thanks!
> Jon
>
>

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[tw] Re: A Song for the Joy of It

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Artaserse vinci, Franco Fagioli, Vo solcando un mar crud... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXmF6h3Yd_A

Exquisite countertenor voice, though the face shows the exactitude of opera.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*SAVE THE GRIDS?*

Like saving a story river. But in Grid Mode.

Use cases: I imagine one grid for substantive WORK, and another grid that 
is, say, concerned with CONFIGURATION. I think the point is that we might 
be able to do most everything via gridded layouts.

Best wishes
Josiah 

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread cmari
oops, I see you already reached my conclusion.

On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 12:13:44 PM UTC-8, cmari wrote:
>
> I noticed this some time ago and yes it is frustrating because I use the 
> datepicker daily. I could be wrong, but I have been assuming it is yet 
> another manifestation of the timezone "feature" that is not enough of a 
> "bug" to bother (or even be apparent to) TWers who live closer to 
> Greenwich. (See https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2061). 
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 12:06:11 AM UTC-8, passingby wrote:
>>
>> I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker 
>> from here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/
>>
>> If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
>> and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
>> back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
>> anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread cmari
I noticed this some time ago and yes it is frustrating because I use the 
datepicker daily. I could be wrong, but I have been assuming it is yet 
another manifestation of the timezone "feature" that is not enough of a 
"bug" to bother (or even be apparent to) TWers who live closer to 
Greenwich. (See https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2061). 

On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 12:06:11 AM UTC-8, passingby wrote:
>
> I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker from 
> here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/
>
> If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
> and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
> back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
> anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?
>

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Re: [tw] Re: KaTeX does not do what I need

2018-01-12 Thread Ste Wilson
Your a superstar! 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC

>
>
>
> *STICKY TIDDLER?**Q: Is it possible to force a Tiddler to always stay 
> where it is?*
>
> The use case I'm thinking of is I've written, say, a Tiddler that is an 
> intro to the rest that I want ALWAYS at POSITION ONE so new users would 
> always see it first in the flow.
>

sticky tiddlers will be there sooner or later because I really want that 
feature 

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread Birthe C
Well now this has kept you awake, at least you were only one day behind. I 
am using the datepicker from GSD5. It does not like empty field and so I 
just put some zeroes - to be able to edit it from view mode without 
problems. I could do that, but before editing it showed 1899-11-30, but 
only zeroes in the field.

Birthe

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread passingby
I think the solution has been given by jeremy but I am making a mistake 
implementing it. at tiddlywiki.com it says if we add [UTC] token to the 
format string it should shift the date to UTc which should effectively 
solve the problem.
[UTC] Time-shift the represented date to UTC. Must be at very start of 
format string 
.
But as I mentioned above its not happening for me. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you.

That is very good news. I will go play with that.

Josiah

On Friday, 12 January 2018 19:57:13 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @TiddlyTweeter, very interesting questions
> let me try to answer
>
> Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 18:42:46 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>>
>> *TIDDLY TOUCH-BASE - THE RIGHT?*
>>
>> *Q: Am I limited to 12 columns? Is that hard code?*
>>
>
> No it's not. you can define more width steps. look at the demo page, 
> switch to tiddly-view and there to spreadsheet view and see
>
> it's easy to do and not much work
>  
>
>>
>>
>> The liberation of the RIGHTwards layout is one thing that got me 
>> interested. I'd like to be able to go on forever right.
>>
>
> do you mean the horizontal view? there you can go on as long as you want, 
> try it - I think the first limiting factor is your computers memory
>
>>
>> A Use Case would be Storyboarding a movie. Going Right conveys time much 
>> better than going down does.
>>
>> In actual Storyboarding you tend to group "horizontal runs" by "Acts". An 
>> Act on a physical corkboard is usually about 25 images per line/act. Most 
>> movies have 3 main acts. The second act is normally double length so you 
>> split it in two on a storyboard. 
>>  
>>
> In other words: you normally have a grid of 25 columns and 4 rows to 
>> depict a whole movie.  100 scenarios split over 4 rows. 
>>
>  
>>
>
>> I DO see there is a design thing in TT between relating to a 
>> FIXED-VIEWPORT or an infinite VIRTUAL-SPACE. In the first case one can set 
>> widths relative to the viewport size. In the second case they need some 
>> kind of fixed setting (likely px or rem).
>>
>> IF this issue is "out-of-scope" let me know. Even at 12 columns 
>> TiddlyTouch is great. 
>>
>
> For all those things you mentioned here I was thinking about having an 
> interface to configure them... there's a lot the user can configure
>
>>
>> I'm simply wondering if I could go right further?
>>
>
> yes
>
>>
>> J, x
>>
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter


*STICKY TIDDLER?**Q: Is it possible to force a Tiddler to always stay where 
it is?*

The use case I'm thinking of is I've written, say, a Tiddler that is an 
intro to the rest that I want ALWAYS at POSITION ONE so new users would 
always see it first in the flow.

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread passingby


On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 12:21:18 PM UTC-7, Sander Datema wrote:
>
> Can't be sure if you need more sleep, but I cannot reproduce what you 
> describe I'm afraid.
>
> I found the cause. Its due to my timezone. The dates are stored in UTC but 
when rendered they are rendered as browser timezone. So any date which has 
9 zeros at the end like: 201801120 is saved as such but when 
displayed in a date format skips back by one day and is displayed as 11 
january 2018. If I add my timezone difference to the date string it then 
displayes the correct day. My timezone is canada mountain time which is 7 
hours ahead. So  2018011207000 displays the day as 12th.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Simon

Any approach that works in a simple way is fine as far as I'm concerned. A 
dopo.

J, x


>>
>> *Q: Rather than have to manually edit to add a "span" field could TT 
>> individual tiddlers have a toggle option (similar to the sidebar icon) to 
>> dynamically change the width of a tiddler?  *
>>
>
> I was thinking a keyboard key + mousescroll on tiddler could do it. There 
> are other things that come before that and that would leave time for 
> discussion about the right combo
>

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread coda coder



It's definitely a problem:




On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-6, Sander Datema wrote:
>
> Can't be sure if you need more sleep, but I cannot reproduce what you 
> describe I'm afraid.
>
> Op vrijdag 12 januari 2018 09:06:11 UTC+1 schreef passingby:
>>
>> I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker 
>> from here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/
>>
>> If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
>> and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
>> back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
>> anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*THE SWITCHING EYE*

The test Tiddler you give, with the two eyes that (A) removes cruft 
reversibly and (B) removes cruft irreversibly, is exactly right to 
demonstrate, on ONE click, the beauty of minimalist design.

There are TWO things going on. 1 - the griddy thing. 2 - an appreciation of 
"let's get on with it". This thing is only in Alpha but already I can see 
that with a few clicks I can MAKE a site. IMO you got something really 
correct for the user who wants to get on and PUBLISH. 

Best wishes
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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread Sander Datema
Can't be sure if you need more sleep, but I cannot reproduce what you 
describe I'm afraid.

Op vrijdag 12 januari 2018 09:06:11 UTC+1 schreef passingby:
>
> I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker from 
> here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/
>
> If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
> and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
> back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
> anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?
>

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[tw] Re: Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread passingby


On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 1:06:11 AM UTC-7, passingby wrote:
>
> I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker from 
> here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/
>
> If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
> and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
> back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
> anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?
>

I think I have found out the problem, and it has nothing to do with the 
date picker plugin. It has something to do with the fact that TW stores 
dates in UTC but when rendering, the dates are rendered as the browser 
specific timezone. The problem now becomes, how to prevent this. How to 
make the tiddler display the date as it is stored in the field rather than 
shifting it to the local timezone? Tiddlywiki.com says attach [UTC] in the 
very front of the format string should keep the date to UTC.


[UTC] Time-shift the represented date to UTC. Must be at very start of 
format string


But this is doing nothing for me:
if i have a field asdf with the value as 201801120 and get it to 
display with this:
<$view field="asdf" format="date" template="[UTC]DD MMM "/>
the date skips by one day and displays as:
[UTC]11 January 2018

 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC


>
>
> *THE BEAUTY OF DESKTOPS*This gridded approach is as useful for desktops 
> as smaller touch devices. Though in a different way.
>
> On a desktop drag-n-drop really comes into its own because you have a BIG 
> CANVAS to play with. It is superb for re-organising emergent 
> ideas/fragments.
>
> ONE issue is how to set the WIDTH of a TT Tiddler on a Desktop. If 
> anything its MOST pertinent on Desktops where overall width is not an issue.
>
>
> *Q: Rather than have to manually edit to add a "span" field could TT 
> individual tiddlers have a toggle option (similar to the sidebar icon) to 
> dynamically change the width of a tiddler?  *
>

I was thinking a keyboard key + mousescroll on tiddler could do it. There 
are other things that come before that and that would leave time for 
discussion about the right combo


hope this helps,

Simon 

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[tw] Re: TW5 Server Version has gotten into a weird state

2018-01-12 Thread cpjobling
I rebuilt the wiki from a new fresh version using drag and drop and copy 
and paste ... but I'd still like to know what went wrong.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC

>
>
>
> *DYNAMIC REDUCTIVE FILTERS?*One of the neat things that muuri js enables 
> is dynamic filtering (https://haltu.github.io/muuri/). Whilst TiddlyWiki 
> is good on reductive filtering in the sidebar search I can't say I've seen 
> a live reductive filter for open Tiddlers like muuri does yet.
>

I've seen that and I'm planning with this search functionality, but I'd 
like to discuss what should be used as filter expression - easiest thing 
would be the tiddler title ... I have to think about this

>
> Sticking with TT. Imagine you opened, via an AUTO-POPULATE, 200 Tiddlers 
> with tag "MyStuff". But then you need to *reduce* what is visible to the 
> 5 that are also tagged "Rabbit".
>
> *Q: Could that be done?* 
>

yep! could be done 

>
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
@TiddlyTweeter, very interesting questions
let me try to answer

Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 18:42:46 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> *TIDDLY TOUCH-BASE - THE RIGHT?*
>
> *Q: Am I limited to 12 columns? Is that hard code?*
>

No it's not. you can define more width steps. look at the demo page, switch 
to tiddly-view and there to spreadsheet view and see

it's easy to do and not much work
 

>
>
> The liberation of the RIGHTwards layout is one thing that got me 
> interested. I'd like to be able to go on forever right.
>

do you mean the horizontal view? there you can go on as long as you want, 
try it - I think the first limiting factor is your computers memory

>
> A Use Case would be Storyboarding a movie. Going Right conveys time much 
> better than going down does.
>
> In actual Storyboarding you tend to group "horizontal runs" by "Acts". An 
> Act on a physical corkboard is usually about 25 images per line/act. Most 
> movies have 3 main acts. The second act is normally double length so you 
> split it in two on a storyboard. 
>  
>
In other words: you normally have a grid of 25 columns and 4 rows to depict 
> a whole movie.  100 scenarios split over 4 rows. 
>
 
>

> I DO see there is a design thing in TT between relating to a 
> FIXED-VIEWPORT or an infinite VIRTUAL-SPACE. In the first case one can set 
> widths relative to the viewport size. In the second case they need some 
> kind of fixed setting (likely px or rem).
>
> IF this issue is "out-of-scope" let me know. Even at 12 columns 
> TiddlyTouch is great. 
>

For all those things you mentioned here I was thinking about having an 
interface to configure them... there's a lot the user can configure

>
> I'm simply wondering if I could go right further?
>

yes

>
> J, x
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread coda coder


On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 12:41:40 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I'm just wanting also push Simon a little on this because the interface 
> he's working on is very flexible. And I just wanna check whether muuri does 
> have a rightward limit or not. 
>
>
Yeah, I got that.  But you hit the nail so squarely on the head, I had to 
share...

In trying to solve that particular issue, I looked at grids, flex etc., but 
settled on columns as the least invasive (not the best word) and the 
simplest solution to the problem.

Perhaps Simon may want to do some trials to see if a container tiddler with 
columns might help.

Why a container tiddler? Avoids having to deal with the Storyriver and 
trampling on its view of the world.

Anyway, as you were ;)

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Re: [tw] Re: KaTeX does not do what I need

2018-01-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Yesterday I updated the prerelease to the latest KaTeX, v0.90-alpha2:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3086

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a88e28cb5afc2ddfefc95de0061d3f2b246c1c04

It will appear in 5.1.16. You can try it out here:

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 12 Jan 2018, at 18:22, Ste Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Katex has a list of supported functions here 
> https://khan.github.io/KaTeX/function-support.html
> 
> The tiddlywiki plugin is a little bit behind in terms of versions (I keep 
> meaning to request an update but can't quite face git...)
> 
> Not sure what you mean by a ray. 
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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you coda coder!

That is very helpful.

I'm just wanting also push Simon a little on this because the interface 
he's working on is very flexible. And I just wanna check whether muuri does 
have a rightward limit or not. 

J, x

coda coder wrote:
>
> I suspect you want fixed height tiddlers that transclude their content 
> (let's call these fixed height tiddler "containers").  The containers 
> display their content using CSS columns:
>
>
> >>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/columns
> .someclass {
>   columns:3; -moz-columns:3; -webkit-columns:3;
>   column-gap:2em; -moz-column-gap:2em; -webkit-column-gap:2em;
>   column-rule: 2px dotted #ddd; -moz-column-rule: 2px dotted #ddd; 
> -webkit-column-rule: 2px dotted #ddd;
>   column-fill:auto; -moz-column-fill:auto; -webkit-column-fill:auto;
> }
>
> I use this a lot for exactly the reason you describe: *time* is better 
> represented horizontally.  My content transcluded into the container can be 
> huge (chapter of a book, for example).
>

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[tw] Re: can not update tiddlywiki via php, on a password protected folder in cpanel

2018-01-12 Thread Mobil Home
Hello Quaraman,

no the .php file doesn't know that it's in a password protected folder, it 
doesn't know anything about the .htaccess file. 

How should I modify the .php file, to make saving work in a password protected 
folder? Hosted on Linux, cpanel.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter


*THE BEAUTY OF DESKTOPS*This gridded approach is as useful for desktops as 
smaller touch devices. Though in a different way.

On a desktop drag-n-drop really comes into its own because you have a BIG 
CANVAS to play with. It is superb for re-organising emergent 
ideas/fragments.

ONE issue is how to set the WIDTH of a TT Tiddler on a Desktop. If anything 
its MOST pertinent on Desktops where overall width is not an issue.



*Q: Rather than have to manually edit to add a "span" field could TT 
individual tiddlers have a toggle option (similar to the sidebar icon) to 
dynamically change the width of a tiddler?  *Best wishes
Josiah

 

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[tw] Re: can not update tiddlywiki via php, on a password protected folder in cpanel

2018-01-12 Thread xanatoswetzel
Hello Mobil Home,

does the php script know that the folder is password protected?
or can it be that a .htaccess rule is then set that prevents this process?

Good Luck,
- Quaraman

Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 06:01:52 UTC+1 schrieb Mobil Home:
>
> I get the saving message, but the saved confirmation never arrives and the 
> file will never be saved.
> It's a folder password protected with cpanel. 
> If I disable the password protection for the folder, saving works.
> Can anyone figure a solution for this?
>

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[tw] Re: KaTeX does not do what I need

2018-01-12 Thread Ste Wilson
Katex has a list of supported functions here 
https://khan.github.io/KaTeX/function-support.html

The tiddlywiki plugin is a little bit behind in terms of versions (I keep 
meaning to request an update but can't quite face git...)

Not sure what you mean by a ray. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter


*DYNAMIC REDUCTIVE FILTERS?*One of the neat things that muuri js enables is 
dynamic filtering (https://haltu.github.io/muuri/). Whilst TiddlyWiki is 
good on reductive filtering in the sidebar search I can't say I've seen a 
live reductive filter for open Tiddlers like muuri does yet.

Sticking with TT. Imagine you opened, via an AUTO-POPULATE, 200 Tiddlers 
with tag "MyStuff". But then you need to *reduce* what is visible to the 5 
that are also tagged "Rabbit".

*Q: Could that be done?*

My thinking is that as we increase ease of display of fragments we need 
also need to provide ways to then filter them to what is needed. 

The POINT is that once you have many fragments shown people look and figure 
out more easily what they need hone in on. Arbitrary filtering could do it 
for them.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread coda coder
I suspect you want fixed height tiddlers that transclude their content 
(let's call these fixed height tiddler "containers").  The containers 
display their content using CSS columns:

.someclass {
  columns:3; -moz-columns:3; -webkit-columns:3;
  column-gap:2em; -moz-column-gap:2em; -webkit-column-gap:2em;
  column-rule: 2px dotted #ddd; -moz-column-rule: 2px dotted #ddd; 
-webkit-column-rule: 2px dotted #ddd;
  column-fill:auto; -moz-column-fill:auto; -webkit-column-fill:auto;
}

>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/columns

I use this a lot for exactly the reason you describe: *time* is better 
represented horizontally.  My content transcluded into the container can be 
huge (chapter of a book, for example).


On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 11:42:46 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> *TIDDLY TOUCH-BASE - THE RIGHT?*
>
> *Q: Am I limited to 12 columns? Is that hard code?*
>
> The liberation of the RIGHTwards layout is one thing that got me 
> interested. I'd like to be able to go on forever right.
>
> A Use Case would be Storyboarding a movie. Going Right conveys time much 
> better than going down does.
>
> In actual Storyboarding you tend to group "horizontal runs" by "Acts". An 
> Act on a physical corkboard is usually about 25 images per line/act. Most 
> movies have 3 main acts. The second act is normally double length so you 
> split it in two on a storyboard. 
>
> In other words: you normally have a grid of 25 columns and 4 rows to 
> depict a whole movie.  100 scenarios split over 4 rows.
>
> I DO see there is a design thing in TT between relating to a 
> FIXED-VIEWPORT or an infinite VIRTUAL-SPACE. In the first case one can set 
> widths relative to the viewport size. In the second case they need some 
> kind of fixed setting (likely px or rem).
>
> IF this issue is "out-of-scope" let me know. Even at 12 columns 
> TiddlyTouch is great. 
>
> I'm simply wondering if I could go right further?
>
> J, x
>

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[tw] Background color from color palette

2018-01-12 Thread stevesuny
Hi Folks,

I'm creating a simple slideshow macro, and trying to set the background 
color of tiddlers dynamically from the color palette.

I've added this to ViewTemplate (actually, I copied 
the $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate from https://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/) which 
allows me to set background color according to the background-color field.


\define frame-styles()
background-color: $(backgroundColour)$;
border-color: $(backgroundColour)$;
\end


In my current color palette tiddler ($:/palettes/DWS)  I've added these 
lines:

1: #DEFF65
2: #FF9563
3: #FF7575
4: #5AD3FF
5: #A7FF7B

In each of my tiddlers to be colored, I have a field slidenum set to 1..5.

In my macro I've got this define: 

\define bgcolor() {{$:/palettes/DWS##$(slidenum)$}}

And I am using these commands to try to set the background color for each 
tiddler:


<$list filter="[tag!sort]">
<$vars slidenum={{!!slidenum}}>
<$action-setfield background-color=<>/>



It almost works, but in my background-color field, instead of the value 
from the palettte tiddler, I get:

{{$:/palettes/DWS##1}}

Some sort of escaping, I'm sure. Any help much appreciated!

//steve.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
*TIDDLY TOUCH-BASE - THE RIGHT?*

*Q: Am I limited to 12 columns? Is that hard code?*

The liberation of the RIGHTwards layout is one thing that got me 
interested. I'd like to be able to go on forever right.

A Use Case would be Storyboarding a movie. Going Right conveys time much 
better than going down does.

In actual Storyboarding you tend to group "horizontal runs" by "Acts". An 
Act on a physical corkboard is usually about 25 images per line/act. Most 
movies have 3 main acts. The second act is normally double length so you 
split it in two on a storyboard. 

In other words: you normally have a grid of 25 columns and 4 rows to depict 
a whole movie.  100 scenarios split over 4 rows.

I DO see there is a design thing in TT between relating to a FIXED-VIEWPORT 
or an infinite VIRTUAL-SPACE. In the first case one can set widths relative 
to the viewport size. In the second case they need some kind of fixed 
setting (likely px or rem).

IF this issue is "out-of-scope" let me know. Even at 12 columns TiddlyTouch 
is great. 

I'm simply wondering if I could go right further?

J, x

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[tw] Re: KaTeX does not do what I need

2018-01-12 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey j3d1H,

Can you post the actual latex you're trying to render?

Thanks,
Diego

On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 11:39:55 AM UTC-6, j3d1H wrote:
>
> I'm trying to write in KaTeX, specifically the symbol for a ray. However, 
> in both my wiki and the actual plugin page, it doesn't work. I don't think 
> it works on Khan Academy's GitHub page either. Has something changed? And, 
> if I cannot use this, what else can I use to write the symbol for a ray, or 
> things like that?
>
> (I'm new to this plugin, and LaTeX in general. Maybe this never worked, or 
> it changed a long time ago - I'm not quite sure.)
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>

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[tw] KaTeX does not do what I need

2018-01-12 Thread j3d1H
I'm trying to write in KaTeX, specifically the symbol for a ray. However, 
in both my wiki and the actual plugin page, it doesn't work. I don't think 
it works on Khan Academy's GitHub page either. Has something changed? And, 
if I cannot use this, what else can I use to write the symbol for a ray, or 
things like that?

(I'm new to this plugin, and LaTeX in general. Maybe this never worked, or 
it changed a long time ago - I'm not quite sure.)

Any help is appreciated!

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[tw] Re: TW5 Server Version has gotten into a weird state

2018-01-12 Thread cpjobling
This problem also affects new tiddlers. I create a new tiddler Called "Test 
Tiddler Write"

The only indication that something may not be right is the message *hasMetaFile 
is false *in the server log before server apparently writes the tiddler 
file.

syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: Test Tiddler Write
*For Test Tiddler Write, type is application/x-tiddler hasMetaFile is false 
filepath is /Users/me/.../wiki/tiddlers/Test Tiddler Write.tid*
 filesystem: Saved file /Users/me/.../wiki/tiddlers/Test Tiddler Write.tid

When the server is restarted, Test Tiddler Write is in the Orphans file 
with name that this the full file path.

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[tw] TW5 Server Version has gotten into a weird state

2018-01-12 Thread cpjobling
One of my TW5 server wikis has gotten into a weird state in which tiddlers 
have become replaced by full file paths. For example

tiddler wiki/tiddlers/10th January 2018.tid is appearing as a file 
/Users/me/.../wiki/tiddlers/10th 
January 2018.tid with header:

modified: 20180112164435213
modifier: Chris Jobling

tags: Journal
title: 10th January 2018
type: text/vnd.tiddlywiki


.The content is present in this file, but if I try to create a new tiddler 
in the server from the content, it reverts to the file-path version on 
server restart.

Also, on my mac the $__StoryList.tid is saved with a number appended 
$__StoryList.tid 
1 and next time the server is opened $__StoryList.tid 2.

Is there a simple way to recover?

TiddlyWiki is 5.1.15

TiddlyWiki.info:

{
"description": "Empty edition",
"plugins": [
"tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb",
"tiddlywiki/filesystem",
"tiddlywiki/highlight",
"tiddlywiki/codemirror"
],
"username": "Chris Jobling",
"themes": [
"tiddlywiki/vanilla",
"tiddlywiki/snowwhite"
],
"languages": [
  "en-GB"
  ],
"build": {
"index": [
"--rendertiddler","$:/core/save/all","index.html","text/plain"
],
"favicon": [
  "--savetiddler","$:/favicon.ico","favicon.ico"
],
"readme": [
"--rendertiddler","ReadMe","readme.md","text/html",
"--rendertiddler","License","license.md","text/html"
],
"externalimages": [
"--savetiddlers","[![is.draft]is[image]]","images",

"--setfield","[![is.draft]is[image]]","_canonical_uri","$:/core/templates/canonical-uri-external-image","text/plain",

"--rendertiddler","$:/core/save/all","externalimages.html","text/plain"
],
"static": [

"--rendertiddler","[![is.draft]tag[private]]","$:/core/templates/static.template.html","static.html","text/plain",

"--rendertiddler","[![is.draft]tag[private]]","$:/core/templates/alltiddlers.template.html","alltiddlers.html","text/plain",

"--rendertiddlers","[!is[system]]","$:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html","static","text/plain",

"--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/static.template.css","static/static.css","text/plain"
]
}
}




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[tw] Re: js code within tw5?

2018-01-12 Thread passingby
@Mark S. 
Well thank you for your explanation. At least now your confirmation assures 
me that its not me who is missing something in plain sight. 

@xanato..thanks for those links! I should look into them. But the problem 
for me is that I have always been only a hobbyist/entry level programmer 
with just basic knowledge of constructs and code patterns. And with a full 
time job which is quite different from this, there are long gaps after each 
stint.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
BurningTreeC asked:
>
>
> what's nowish?
>

Sophisticated grid layouts out on the web. They have entered the visual 
vocabulary of most every real user. Gridded snippets are proving to be one 
of the best information presentation systems suited to web life. They 
finally break the idea of "the book" (pages) as the super-metaphor that's 
driven web content development for too long.

The Fragment is very suited to TidlyWiki and Grid Layouts are a great fit 
at multiple levels IMO.

Next to some issues.

Josiah 

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[tw] Re: can not update tiddlywiki via php, on a password protected folder in cpanel

2018-01-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I'm sure someone will be along who knows more, but I'd check to make sure 
that I don't have a plugin or setting that prevents saving of cookies on 
the site.

Good luck
-- Mark

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 9:01:52 PM UTC-8, Mobil Home wrote:
>
> I get the saving message, but the saved confirmation never arrives and the 
> file will never be saved.
> It's a folder password protected with cpanel. 
> If I disable the password protection for the folder, saving works.
> Can anyone figure a solution for this?
>

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[tw] Re: What's "$:/"?

2018-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao skrev

Birthe's link is useful. BUT, actually you can make ANY tiddler a "system 
tiddler" by prefixing it with "$:/". What is does is exclude it from the 
normal search--you can only find it in Advanced Search. The POINT of it is 
to hide things you don't want to come up in normal searches (generally 
macros, configuration and anything else to do with the setup of the TW) . 
The thinking behind it is that in normal search you just want to see your 
basic CONTENT, not bits of the mechanism behind creating it.

Best wishes
Josiah

Birthe C wrote:
>
> You can find an explanation of system tiddlers here:
>  https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTiddlers 
> 
>
> skrev mlomailom:
>>
>> I don't understand what "$:/" means. I've seen this notation in system 
>> tags.
>> How do I interpret it and what does it do?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: What's "$:/"?

2018-01-12 Thread Birthe C
You can find an explanation of system tiddlers here:
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTiddlers 


Birthe

Den fredag den 12. januar 2018 kl. 15.18.05 UTC+1 skrev mlomailom:
>
> I don't understand what "$:/" means. I've seen this notation in system 
> tags.
> How do I interpret it and what does it do?
>
> I've no specific application-related question based on it. The issue is 
> that it's everywhere in TW help/documentation that I don't understand what 
> follows afterwards.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

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[tw] What's "$:/"?

2018-01-12 Thread mlomailom
I don't understand what "$:/" means. I've seen this notation in system tags.
How do I interpret it and what does it do?

I've no specific application-related question based on it. The issue is 
that it's everywhere in TW help/documentation that I don't understand what 
follows afterwards.

Thanks.


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[tw] Re: Win 7 64 bit - Tiddlydesktop throws internal javascript error

2018-01-12 Thread Brian Kennedy
I think I have narrowed this down.
I get an internal javascript error in TiddlyDesktop if I try to save 
(manually or automatically) a file where the filename or filepath includes 
a Greek character (I live in Greece). This may be something to do with how 
the browser TiddlyDesktop uses internally handles Unicode file paths or 
file names.
Again, in Firefox there is no problem.

Does that sound like a plausible hypothesis?

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:47:56 PM UTC+2, Brian Kennedy wrote:
>
> I have a problem using Tiddlydesktop on Win7
> When I edit a tiddler I (almost) always get an  internal javascript error 
> when I close it or attempt to save it.
> However it works fine on Firefox.
>
> It may be relevant to note that I am using it to track tasks as in this 
> tutorial by Francis  Meetze
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGpAW0z_Bo=PLzZCajspPU_UjFn0uy-J9URz0LP4zhxRK
> As the files are 2MB I have not attached them but will if anyone asks.
>
> My setup is this:
>
> Win 7 64 bit Enterprise ver 6.1
> IE is default browser (11.0.96)
> TiddlyDesktop version 0.0.9
>
> Editing files work fine on Firefox 57.0.4 64bit (no TiddlyFox)
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
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[tw] Replace copy/paste bullets with TW Style?

2018-01-12 Thread Stobot
As I work in a corporate Microsoft/Windows environment, I'm very commonly 
copying in bulleted list email content like this:

Blah blah blah:

   - Yada yada yada 
  - Yada yada yada 
  - Blah blah blah 
   - More stuff 
   - Even more stuff

I'm wondering if anyone has something light built to just replace the text 
characters that are used during copy/paste into TiddlyWiki into the 
corresponding 

   
Blah blah blah:

* Yada yada yada

** Yada yada yada

** Blah blah blah

* More Stuff

* Even more stuff


I've seen some (and use) some copy/paste tables from Excel and return the 
|TiddlyWiki|Style|Tables but nothing for the bullet characters.


Anyone have something they can point me to?

   

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[tw] Re: Win 7 64 bit - Tiddlydesktop throws internal javascript error

2018-01-12 Thread Brian Kennedy
Update:  I realised I can turn off autosave in the settings widget. But 
again, I can do this in Firefox, but attempting to do it in TiddlyDesktop 
causes an internal javascript error.


On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:47:56 PM UTC+2, Brian Kennedy wrote:
>
> I have a problem using Tiddlydesktop on Win7
> When I edit a tiddler I (almost) always get an  internal javascript error 
> when I close it or attempt to save it.
> However it works fine on Firefox.
>
> It may be relevant to note that I am using it to track tasks as in this 
> tutorial by Francis  Meetze
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGpAW0z_Bo=PLzZCajspPU_UjFn0uy-J9URz0LP4zhxRK
> As the files are 2MB I have not attached them but will if anyone asks.
>
> My setup is this:
>
> Win 7 64 bit Enterprise ver 6.1
> IE is default browser (11.0.96)
> TiddlyDesktop version 0.0.9
>
> Editing files work fine on Firefox 57.0.4 64bit (no TiddlyFox)
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

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[tw] Re: Win 7 64 bit - Tiddlydesktop throws internal javascript error

2018-01-12 Thread Brian Kennedy
Hi Tony, thanks for your help:

I am using TiddlyDesktop with both Classic and TW5 files.
All the files were originally written using various versions of Firefox 
across Windows and LInux OS's.
So far I have only noticed problems with *certain* TW5 files - not all - 
and I will be looking into this to try and narrow it down.
How do do I turn off autosave? I couldn't find it in the TiddlyDesktop help 
- I just found instructions on modifying the backup path and file name.
You mention looking through my plugins - how do I do this in TiddlyDesktop? 
Do I have to do it in Chromium? (I am assuming TiddlyDesktop installs or 
incorporates Chromium)

Thanks,
Brian


On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:47:56 PM UTC+2, Brian Kennedy wrote:
>
> I have a problem using Tiddlydesktop on Win7
> When I edit a tiddler I (almost) always get an  internal javascript error 
> when I close it or attempt to save it.
> However it works fine on Firefox.
>
> It may be relevant to note that I am using it to track tasks as in this 
> tutorial by Francis  Meetze
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGpAW0z_Bo=PLzZCajspPU_UjFn0uy-J9URz0LP4zhxRK
> As the files are 2MB I have not attached them but will if anyone asks.
>
> My setup is this:
>
> Win 7 64 bit Enterprise ver 6.1
> IE is default browser (11.0.96)
> TiddlyDesktop version 0.0.9
>
> Editing files work fine on Firefox 57.0.4 64bit (no TiddlyFox)
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-12 Thread BurningTreeC
@TiddlyTweeter

Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 20:34:00 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Allora, @BurningTreeC
>
> I may be in love with you? It could be your bling.
>

don't get tiddly 

>
> Moving on ... great stuff. Love the flex in what you doing. The little 
> gizmos you add (color palette, auto-gallery, transparency, hider, build 
> macros etc) are brilliant in this context. 
>
> thanks, this stuff is needed for how I imagine my workflow with this
 

> Towards an interface that on click re-builds the interface.
>
> Very TiddlyWiki, but easier. 
>
> A BRIDGE towards nowish for end-users like me.
>

what's nowish?

>
> Given this is still in Alpha its amazing what it can do.
>
> I have some substantive issues, not just praise. Those I will post next, 
> bit by bit.
>

 finally

>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

thanks Josiah, let your issues flow :D

all the best,
BurningTreeC 

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[tw] Re: js code within tw5?

2018-01-12 Thread xanatoswetzel
Hi passingby,

you could use a javascript macro 
(https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/index.html#JavaScript%20Macros).

Or you could use a plugin of mine named Spilot4Tw 
(https://www.quaraman.de/tw/pilot.html).

Or the formula plugin: http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html .

It depends on your needs what is the best.

Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2018 08:26:16 UTC+1 schrieb passingby:
>
> Is there anyway to use javascript logic within list widget? 
> How do we use if then else logic in nested lists? 
> And how do these nested lists work anyway!? 
> Why does the output change when we add a newline after opening tag? 
> Man TW5 is so different than TWC!
>
> The problem is I need tiddlywiki. I could go back to tw classic but I do 
> not want to, given the promise of next 25 years.
>

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[tw] Datepicker skipping back a day?

2018-01-12 Thread passingby
I just noticed something strange while playing around with datepicker from 
here http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/

If i write <$edit-date> into a new tiddler and then let the view render, 
and pick a date, it picks up the date and then right before my eyes skips 
back by one day! So if i pick 12th of jan it becomes 11th of january. Can 
anybody confirm this to be happening or I am in need of sleep?

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