date:20180127



On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 9:42:05 AM UTC+11, Furicle wrote:
>
> Missed in last reply - 
>
> Take a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#Linking%20in%20WikiText
>

Thank you. It is well written but could see an example or explanation on 
how to link to a file stored on ones computer . . . 

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[tw] Re: Newbie: 2nd Post: How to write in a Tiddly the address to a file on my computer so that clicking the link opens the file

Thank you Mark!

Sorry for asking, but how do i do the same in Chrome please?

In Chrome when I try with the written link you kindly provided these thinks 
happen.
1. After saving the tiddly a clickable link with the letters INS (in blue 
and with a line under them) appear
2. Hovering the mouse over the letters INS brings up the link in the bottom 
left of the Chrome window in the downloads area
3. Left clicking on the INS link does nothing.
4. Right clicking on the INS link and selecting open link in a new tab, 
opens a blank link
 5. Right clicking on the INS link and selecting 'Copy Link Address' and 
then copying that link into a new tab correctly opens the pdf file in the 
new link chrome window.

So in conclusion I still cant simply click on a pdf link in tiddly and view 
the pdf.

Hmmm any solutions please?

Thank you very much.
Yours Faithfully
Paul

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 9:07:04 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> In order to launch the file, you need to tell your Firefox browser what 
> you want to do with the Exel (or PDF) format. You do that in 
> options/settings/applications. Find the listing for PDF and change the 
> action so that it opens with your local PDF reader. Same for Microsoft Exel.
>
> Inside of TW, you can use a link like:
>
> [ext[myfile.pdf]]
>
> However, if you need to specify the path, and if the path has spaces (as 
> in your example) then you need to give the full name, swapping Windows 
> reverse slashes "\" for web forward slashes "/". So your name might be 
> something like:
>
> [ext[INS|file:///C:/Users/123 Fred/Google Drive/PERSONAL/Insurance 
> Form.pdf]]
>
> Unfortunately, this seems to invoke an empty tab in the process. Messy, 
> but it works.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 6:45:46 PM UTC-8, paulda...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> 2nd post. 
>>
>> 1. Have a pdf at this location I would like to open from my Tiddly.
>>
>> *How do i write the address in a tiddly to open this pdf please?*
>> C:\Users\123 Fred\Google Drive\PERSONAL\Insurance Form
>>
>>
>> 2. Have a xlsx file at this location I would like to open my Tiddly.
>> *How do i write the address in a tiddly to open this xlsx file please?*
>> C:\Users\123 Fred\Google Drive\PERSONAL\Insurance Payments.xlsx
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>> Yours Faithfully
>> Paul
>>
>> Windows: 10 Pro Version 1709
>> Chrome: Version 64.0.3282.119 (Official Build) (64-bit)
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: New User: 1st Post: Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please

Hi Jon,

May I ask, after importing an excel file to tiddly view xlsx import, does 
the tiddly view of the excel file authomatically change each time you alter 
the excel file thank you?

Yours Faithfully
Paul

Does xlsx import change the 

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 4:20:47 AM UTC+11, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> Hi Paul, I'm a big fan of xlsx import; you work in excel (or google sheets 
> & download xlsx) which is optimized for formulas etc. and import to TW. It 
> is not live, of course. //steve.
>
> On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:19:08 AM UTC-5, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I use this: http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/ which gives an excel-like 
>> spreadsheet within Tiddlywiki.
>> However, I don't think you can copy & paste to and from excel.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Friday, 26 January 2018 02:31:28 UTC, paulda...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> New User with my 1st Post. Please be kind.
>>>
>>> Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please?
>>>
>>> Yours Faithfully
>>> Paul
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: New User: 1st Post: Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please

Hi.
XLSX import looks good but it is hard for me to work out exactly how to 
install it and the requirement for "Each sheet is expected to consist of a 
single header row followed by multiple content rows, each consisting of an 
independent record" means that spreadsheets not formatted like that will 
not work.

None of my excel spreadsheets are formatted as needed by XLSX import.

Hmmm still thinking what to do . . .

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 4:20:47 AM UTC+11, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> Hi Paul, I'm a big fan of xlsx import; you work in excel (or google sheets 
> & download xlsx) which is optimized for formulas etc. and import to TW. It 
> is not live, of course. //steve.
>
> On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:19:08 AM UTC-5, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I use this: http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/ which gives an excel-like 
>> spreadsheet within Tiddlywiki.
>> However, I don't think you can copy & paste to and from excel.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Friday, 26 January 2018 02:31:28 UTC, paulda...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> New User with my 1st Post. Please be kind.
>>>
>>> Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please?
>>>
>>> Yours Faithfully
>>> Paul
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: New User: 1st Post: Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please

Hi Tony, thank you for your response.

Am migrating a lot of my data over to Tiddly. The ability to tag and 
hierachically organise data with content that is immediately word 
searchable is awesome.
A lot of my information though is in spreadsheets. Wish I could access the 
spreadsheets inside Tiddly. As I wish to share some the excel spreadsheets 
with others i need the spreadsheets to remain in excel format, not tiddly 
format.

Thank you for all your suggestions.

Yours Faithfully
Paul



On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 4:30:22 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Perhaps you can explain more what you want to do, of course the best place 
> for excel files is in excel, perhaps even online excel, what do you mean by 
> in tiddlywiki?. Excel can be imported and turned into Tiddlers, tags and 
> fields, but excel also imports/exports CSV and tiddlywiki can import/export 
> csv. There are other ways to generate output from excel that can be used in 
> tiddlywiki, eg screen capture, html files, now with Evans formula and other 
> tools you can also do many things in tiddlywiki you can do in a spreadsheet.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Re: New User: 1st Post: Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please

Thank you, yes I think you are correct.

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 4:05:03 PM UTC+11, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Sorry Paul,
>
> I have not tried it. But I think it is all about importing into tiddlers 
> and work with them, you would not be able to work directly on your excel 
> file.
>
> Birthe
>
>
> Den fredag den 26. januar 2018 kl. 05.37.50 UTC+1 skrev 
> paulda...@gmail.com:
>>
>> Thanks Birthe!
>>
>> Very kind of you to reply.
>> Thank you also for your link.
>> I had seen it and tried to implement it, but stopped when I realised that 
>> it appears to only allow for the viewing, and not the modifying of the 
>> excel file in Tiddly . . .
>>
>> Have you used it?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paul
>>
>> On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:54:42 PM UTC+11, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome Paul,
>>>
>>> I am sure someone knowing more about it will answer you. Meanwhile you 
>>> might be interested in seeing 
>>> this https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/xlsx-utils/
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>> Den fredag den 26. januar 2018 kl. 03.31.28 UTC+1 skrev 
>>> paulda...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 New User with my 1st Post. Please be kind.

 Can I use excel spreadsheets inside Tiddly please?

 Yours Faithfully
 Paul

>>>

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[tw] Railroad plugin?

2018-01-27 Thread hubertgk

Hi all,

I'm looking for a lightweight solution to creating simple graphs/flowcharts 
and the railroad plugin appears to be what I'm looking for (there are 
fancier solutions out there, but I'd rather keep my tiddlywiki file(s) 
small and with no dependencies etc).

However, the railroad plugin documentation is lacking and so, having no 
knowledge of syntax here, I'm unable to start using it. Also, the only 
version I've found seems to be stuck at 5.1.8 "pre-release". I've also 
learned that this plugin was at one stage made part of the core, but it 
doesn't seem to be built-in per se.

Could anyone provide some robust syntax instruction and examples and/or 
point me to resources? I've already done my fair bit of googling but to 
little avail, unfortunately.

As always, thank you very much for your valuable advice and thanks for your 
time.

Best regards,
Hubert

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 5:22:16 PM UTC+1, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>
> @PMario
> It all started with wanting a simple button, and not being able to find 
> enough documentation to learn how to create it.  So I started searching for 
> examples of button 
>
usage and stumbled upon New Phone Call and New Staff Meeting (which are 
> personally useful).
>

I see: This may be a starting point for some button examples: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionWidgets ... Also open the links in the 
tiddler. 

I also did create several videos some time ago, which is discussed here in 
the group: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video 
howto's 
 
It discusses a lot of different UI elements in detail. ... Some button 
magic is discussed in videos 15, 16, 17 which in sum are about 17 minutes. 
If you like the stuff *hit the like button* and / or subscribe 
!

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: talkytalky next slide mechanism

2018-01-27 Thread Dave

Thanks, I'll try that :)

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[tw] Re: TwTube plugin brings Video.js player to TiddlyWiki 5

Unfortunately I have no brain. I'm a button pusher who occasionally notices 
odd things. :-)

TheDiveO wrote:
>
> Originally, I wanted to use radio button widgets for selecting exactly one 
> skin. However, these act on a single variable/tiddler field; but I need to 
> enable/disable a set of plugin configuration tiddlers. Any ideas on how to 
> achieve this?
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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Ciao Jan

If you worried about getting locked out of your own work all you need do is 
have a RECOVERY address. Meaning you have a config Tiddler to switch OFF 
public access to TW. BUT its also an ADDRESS you can get back to REVERSE 
changes.

This thread about "Hider" is helpful in explaining the issues (its a bit of 
a mess but really does get to the heart of it): 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB=1#!searchin/tiddlywiki/Hider/tiddlywiki/JeuinlhzMNU/ohi6hw6IAQAJ

Josiah

Jan wrote:
>
> ... I just fear locking up the TW in a way that you would have to repair 
> it in a texteditor by accident, when this is not done carefully... 
>

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[tw] Re: talkytalky next slide mechanism

Hi @Dave, @TiddlyTweeter

for the talkytalky look I put this in a stylesheet:

.tc-story-river {
padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
}

.tc-tiddler-frame {
height: 100vh;
margin: 0;
}

.tc-tiddler-body {
position: relative;
text-align: center;
height: 100%;
}

.tc-tags-wrapper, .tc-titlebar .tc-title, .tc-subtitle {
display: none;
}

.tc-tiddler-controls button svg {
fill: <>;
}


and I create two tiddlers, both tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate. the first has 
the field "list-before" with the content "$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title" 
and its text is copied from talkytalky:



<$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">

<$link to={{!!title}}>

{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}








the next tiddler creates the previous button. in a "list-after" field put 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body and as text:



<$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">

<$link to={{!!title}}>

{{$:/core/images/up-arrow}}









with a little bit of color by tags and a bit of tweaking its the talkytalky 
look :)


Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2018 20:45:22 UTC+1 schrieb Dave:
>
> Hi, I like how the down arrow in the upper left of 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/ advances perfectly regardless of the 
> window size.
>
> Pressing the space bar also advances to the next slide, but it doesn't 
> line up right.  
>
>
> A) Is there an easy fix to make the spacebar use the same mechanism as the 
> down arrow so it lines up right every time?
>
> B) Is there a way to have an option to have a "back" arrow for those times 
> that someone requests to go back a slide or two in the middle of a 
> presentation?
>
>
> Thanks,
> - Dave
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Ciao Jan

On my windows 10 tablet the keyboard does NOT appear automatically. 

Only if I click the keyboard option you give. In that sense its good design 
already. 

My issue is that giving it as a clickable option it invokes an on-screen 
keyboard that spoils the display of the presentation, at least with the 
Windows tablet I use.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:02:05 UTC+1, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah,
> does the virtual keyboard appear when launching the slideshow? 
> For me the Keyboard is very practical because it allows me to speak more 
> freely without moving the mouse to onscreen buttons.
> I have experienced the keyboard does not work in Chrome, I do not know why 
> this is so...
>
> Yours Jan
>
> Am 27.01.2018 um 18:23 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Jan wrote:
>> The whole keyboard-navigation is a workaround.
>
>
> TBH, I think its more work than its worth. On Windows tablets without a 
> physical keyboard its result is worse than you might know.
>
> Josiah
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[tw] Re: TwTube plugin brings Video.js player to TiddlyWiki 5

2018-01-27 Thread TheDiveO

:)

Originally, I wanted to use radio button widgets for selecting exactly one 
skin. However, these act on a single variable/tiddler field; but I need to 
enable/disable a set of plugin configuration tiddlers. Any ideas on how to 
achieve this?

Best regards,
TheDiveO

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 9:18:22 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Looking good.
>
> Small oddity if you check BOTH iPlayer & Sublime you get this on Win 7 64, 
> FF 52.5 ... (the odd white line)
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Hallo Thomas,
thanks for your considerations and also thanks Josiah who had tipps for
styling.

I guess the best way will be creating the possibility to create a
personal stylesheet which is injected into the TW.
As you see in the red slide it is even possible to create special styles
for steps in the slideshow.

What do you think?
Jan

Weitergeleitete Nachricht
Betreff:[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter
Datum: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 01:41:58 -0800 (PST)
Von:Thomas Elmiger
Antwort an: tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com
An: TiddlyWiki

Hallo Jan

very nice to see, how far you could take this! I had a short look at
http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/#About

– I hope this is still the right place. My thoughts:

* great to start directly in presentation mode
* the navigation panel works for me on FF 59 Dev Edition (Mac)
o arrows to go to next/prev are sometimes single < and > and
sometimes double « and » – I am not able to see the logic in this
o keyboard seems to be switched off whenever I use a navigation
button and I have to switch it on again
+ the red font on dark background may be hard to read for some
people
+ would it be possible to use the < key to go one step back?
* styling of titles: they should be left aligned for me (I don't like
irregular space – «Löcher» in German – between words)

I will keep an eye on this and test again when I have more time. The
concept of the remote control is still fascinating me.

Herzliche Grüsse
Thomas
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[tw] Re: talkytalky next slide mechanism

I think the interesting thing about Talky-Talk is it could be so easy in TW 
more generally. 

Recent grid layouts will, hopefully, make that kind of visual layout a 
doddle.

Navigation will be the only issue.

Those horizontally sectored webpages are so common now I hope that TW will 
be able to do them out-of-the-box soon.

Josiah

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Fwd: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Hi Josiah,

Hiding exit possibilities would be easy, I just fear locking up the TW
in a way that you would have to repair it in a texteditor by accident,
when this is not done carefully...

Jan

Weitergeleitete Nachricht
Betreff:[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter
Datum: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 05:27:13 -0800 (PST)
Von:@TiddlyTweeter
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An: TiddlyWiki

Ciao Jan

Regarding STARTING in Presentation Mode.
/*
Absolutely right for the purpose.*/

IF I were using this to convey information I would NOT allow access to
anything else in a published version. I think it works best as just a
presentation--and nothing but a presentation.

No reader needs to know its a TW. That is not the aim. (Maybe this
implies TWO versions? An Author version and a Published version?)

In other words, for a "Public Version", I think a way to configure it so
you ONLY get a presentation and then an EXIT button. Nothing more. IMO
its heightens its impact to do that.

Just thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah
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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Hi Josiah,
does the virtual keyboard appear when launching the slideshow?
For me the Keyboard is very practical because it allows me to speak more
freely without moving the mouse to onscreen buttons.
I have experienced the keyboard does not work in Chrome, I do not know
why this is so...

Yours Jan

Am 27.01.2018 um 18:23 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:

Jan wrote:
The whole keyboard-navigation is a workaround.

TBH, I think its more work than its worth. On Windows tablets without
a physical keyboard its result is worse than you might know.

Josiah
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[tw] talkytalky next slide mechanism

2018-01-27 Thread Dave

Hi, I like how the down arrow in the upper left 
of https://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/ advances perfectly regardless of the 
window size.

Pressing the space bar also advances to the next slide, but it doesn't line 
up right.  


A) Is there an easy fix to make the spacebar use the same mechanism as the 
down arrow so it lines up right every time?

B) Is there a way to have an option to have a "back" arrow for those times 
that someone requests to go back a slide or two in the middle of a 
presentation?


Thanks,
- Dave

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[tw] Re: TwTube plugin brings Video.js player to TiddlyWiki 5

2018-01-27 Thread Mat

Thank you for sharing!

<:-)

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 6:30:28 PM UTC+1, TheDiveO wrote:
>
> This plugin brings the Video.js video player to TiddlyWiki 5, including:
>
>- three skin plugins: YouTube-inspired, Sublime-inspired, 
>iPlayer-inspired.
>- two player plugins: persistent volume, hotkeys.
>
> Live Demo: https://thediveo.github.io/TwTube/output/twtube.html
> Release Files: https://github.com/TheDiveO/TwTube/releases
> GitHub Project: https://github.com/TheDiveO/TwTube
>
> *NOTE#1:* When using a file://-based TiddlyWiki please note that the 
>> usual Browser sandbox restrictions for accessing (media) files apply. You 
>> cannot access files outside the (download) sandbox.
>>
>
> *NOTE#2:* As it has been the same-origin policy for ages, you cannot 
>> access YouTube videos from a TiddlyWiki -- unless you get it uploaded on 
>> Google's servers ;)
>>
>
> *NOTE#3: *Due to the same-origin restriction of loading (not only media) 
>> resources, the plugin has an enhanced TW5 server that needs to be used 
>> instead of the stock TW5 server when creating TiddlyWikis via a TW5 server 
>> on node.js.
>>
>
> Many thanks to Jeremy for helping me understanding some delicate aspects 
> of Javascript module loading!
>
> Best regards,
> TheDiveO
>
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[tw] Re: A Song for the Joy of It

MUSIQUE GRANDE VITESSE, Michael Nyman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vARda08X8


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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

An issue with Noteself is it is a relationship between you and a data 
server. That makes it work. Its a PRIVATE matter. Getting it OUT THERE, on 
web, is something else. Not yet so well addressed ...

Ste Wilson wrote upon a bunch of issues, amongst which were ...

... What this means is that I can't host a NoteSelf Wiki that anyone can 
> view ...
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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

2018-01-27 Thread Mat

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 5:41:21 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
>> Well normal TW doesn't save automatically in such a *superbly *convenient 
>> way that NoteSelf does. That's a pretty big deal, at least for me. 
>>
>
> *RIGHT. Right on. Add it to Saving Methods, please. *
>

@Danielo - is the mechanism for automatic saving to browser possible to 
turn into a plugin for TW? I.e a plugin that can be installed like any 
other plugin.

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[tw] Re: Using Custom Font in Tiddler Editor

2018-01-27 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi,

Can you make a MTC (Minimal Test Case) e.g. at TiddlySpot so we can play 
with it?

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw] TwTube plugin brings Video.js player to TiddlyWiki 5

2018-01-27 Thread TheDiveO

This plugin brings the Video.js video player to TiddlyWiki 5, including:

   - three skin plugins: YouTube-inspired, Sublime-inspired, 
   iPlayer-inspired.
   - two player plugins: persistent volume, hotkeys.
   
Live Demo: https://thediveo.github.io/TwTube/output/twtube.html
Release Files: https://github.com/TheDiveO/TwTube/releases
GitHub Project: https://github.com/TheDiveO/TwTube

*NOTE#1:* When using a file://-based TiddlyWiki please note that the usual 
> Browser sandbox restrictions for accessing (media) files apply. You cannot 
> access files outside the (download) sandbox.
>

*NOTE#2:* As it has been the same-origin policy for ages, you cannot access 
> YouTube videos from a TiddlyWiki -- unless you get it uploaded on Google's 
> servers ;)
>

*NOTE#3: *Due to the same-origin restriction of loading (not only media) 
> resources, the plugin has an enhanced TW5 server that needs to be used 
> instead of the stock TW5 server when creating TiddlyWikis via a TW5 server 
> on node.js.
>

Many thanks to Jeremy for helping me understanding some delicate aspects of 
Javascript module loading!

Best regards,
TheDiveO

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[tw] Re: Line numbers for Tiddler body/editor?

2018-01-27 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi,


Can I get line numbers for my Tiddler editor and body, but nowhere else? 
> Not in the sidebar tabs, or title, or anything - just the Tiddler editor 
> and body?
>

CodeMirror plugin?

Cheers,

Ton
 

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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter


>
> Jan wrote:
> The whole keyboard-navigation is a workaround.


TBH, I think its more work than its worth. On Windows tablets without a 
physical keyboard its result is worse than you might know.

Josiah

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[tw] Using Custom Font in Tiddler Editor

2018-01-27 Thread h0p3

I use a stylesheet with a font embedded in it that looks like this:
>
> @font-face { font-family:'customfont'; src: 
> url('data:application/octet-stream;charset=utf-8;base64 ...

This is the only font I want in the wiki.  I've set 'Font Family', 'Code 
font family', and 'Editor font family' to *customfont*. This does not 
change the Tiddler Editor Font, although it changes everything else. How 
can I get tiddlywiki to use my custom font in the editor?

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

2018-01-27 Thread Ste Wilson

I tried to set up a multi user instance over xmas but NoteSelf doesn't quite 
work the way I thought it did. 
If I hosted it then when logging in on a fresh browser its empty till the 
NoteSelf details are entered because this info is stored in the browser and not 
the tiddlywiki. 
The export options (I assume to start an instance with the NoteSelf info baked 
into the tiddlywiki) always resulted in the red screen of embarrassment. 
I'm not sure if this is because the downloaded name is different to the 
original name or what.. 
What this means is that I can't host a NoteSelf Wiki that anyone can view and 
can be logged into for editing. 
I'm not sure if I've missed the point somewhere or if I'm just encountering 
bugs. 

Stephen. 

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

Mat wrote:
>
> I agree that is the most exciting part, if multiple users. 
>

Not quite there yet.

Noteself supports multiple users (one by one) but not simultaneous 
guaranteed reliable yet. IT points the way.

Josiah 

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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Hi Josiah,
there is a touch-mode for phones and a desktop-mode both triggerd by the
screen-size. In the smartphone-mode the keyboard-activation is
invisible. The whole keyboard-navigationis a workaround.
Swipe is a longdesired feature for me, Simon is working on an
implementation of the hammer.js which should bring swipe. I hope he will
succeed.

Yours Jan

Am 27.01.2018 um 14:07 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:

Ciao Jan

There is a problem with "activate the keyboard" on touch devices that
have no physical keyboard (like Windows tablets). What happens is that
you get an on-screen keyboard that then takes over a lot of the screen
and ruins the presentation.

Its maybe not been in your thinking but SWIPE LEFT to bring on the
next would likely work better. I have no idea how you could do that,
not being a programmer myself. But maybe worth looking at for devices
that only have on-screen keyboards.

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

Mat wrote:
>
> Well normal TW doesn't save automatically in such a *superbly *convenient 
> way that NoteSelf does. That's a pretty big deal, at least for me. 
>

The save method to "Browser Storage" is brilliant and outlives the 
Apocalypse. Its easy-peasy with no need for special steps. The only problem 
is what happens is if your browser fails, OR you want to transport to a new 
one. Add some kinda backup of whole TW and you are really there.

This should be an Option on page One. IMO.

Josiah

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

2018-01-27 Thread Diego Mesa

Thanks as always Mario!

Diego

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 7:33:24 AM UTC-6, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I did create a new issue: https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/issues/9 
> ... Where you can "bump" me from time to time, if it takes too long ;)
>
> -m
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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

 Mat wrote:
>
> If you thinking of TiddlySpot saves a Noteself made solo on computer with 
>> only local Pouch *I CAN'T see the point.* It adds nothing to what we do 
>> already. Just use a normal TW.
>>
>
> Well normal TW doesn't save automatically in such a *superbly *convenient 
> way that NoteSelf does. That's a pretty big deal, at least for me. 
>

*RIGHT. Right on. Add it to Saving Methods, please. *

Josiah.

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

2018-01-27 Thread Matias Goldman

>
> If you thinking of TiddlySpot saves a Noteself made solo on computer with
> only local Pouch *I CAN'T see the point.* It adds nothing to what we do
> already. Just use a normal TW.
>

Well normal TW doesn't save automatically in such a *superbly *convenient
way that NoteSelf does. That's a pretty big deal, at least for me.



> It only gets exciting with live on-line connect to that remote DB that
> lets you "do-it" from many places. I can't tell you what is in the backend
> much other than it supports a JSON data structure.
>

I agree that is the most exciting part, if multiple users.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?


@Birthe and @PMario,

Thank you so much!

I actually love being told - "you are going in a completely wrong 
direction..."  It feels like getting back in the fast lane of learning.

Birthe - your solutions work perfectly.  I really like how (when clicked 
multiple times in the same day) they don't overwrite and destroy a prior 
tiddler of the same date title, but instead pull it up so you can keep 
appending.

The minor modifications I made were:
[Meeting with date]

<$button tooltip="New Morning report meeting button">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="Morning report" text="" />New Morning 
report meeting

and [Phone call with date and time]

<$button tooltip="New PhoneCall button">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="Call" text="" />New Phone 
Call

@PMario
It all started with wanting a simple button, and not being able to find 
enough documentation to learn how to create it.  So I started searching for 
examples of button usage and stumbled upon New Phone Call and New Staff 
Meeting (which are personally useful).

My original use case is even easier (I think):

I have a Task list with check boxes - I like it.
I create a Journal entry for the day, and chose to transclude the task list 
{{Task}} as the first thing in the new journal entry.
The Task list is now fairly long, and overwhelms the journal entry, so I 
changed it to [[Task]], and I link to it rather than transclude it.
I wanted to learn enough to create a button to select/switch between these 
options without rewriting the journal entry

I would LOVE a repository of Button usage examples - simple examples so 
that I can teach myself from examples, and ultimately incorporate...

Again, thank you both - 

JWHoneycutt (ie. no longer barking up the wrong tree)

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[tw] Re: vis.js Timeline - display filter result in caption

2018-01-27 Thread Pin Tail

Thanks for the speedy reply. Unfortunately the same result though - the 
code below is displayed in the caption.

On Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:17:01 UTC+7, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello @Pin Tail,
>
> how does this work for you?
>
> {{{ [tag[test]regexp:created[^201710]count[]] }}}
>
> BurningTreeC
>
> Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2018 17:14:25 UTC+1 schrieb Pin Tail:
>>
>> I'm using the wonderful vis.js Timeline plugin 
>>  to display tiddler info on 
>> an interactive calendar.
>>
>> One thing I'd like to be able to do with this is display the result of a 
>> filter as a caption on the timeline. For example, the following gives the 
>> number of tiddlers with the test tag created in October 2017:
>>
>> <$count filter="[tag[test]regexp:created[^201710]]">
>>
>> I've put this into the caption field of a tiddler which appears on the 
>> calendar widget. However, rather than evaluating the filter, the code is 
>> displayed directly. Is there any way that instead the output of the filter 
>> could be used as the caption on the timeline?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: vis.js Timeline - display filter result in caption

Hello @Pin Tail,

how does this work for you?

{{{ [tag[test]regexp:created[^201710]count[]] }}}

BurningTreeC

Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2018 17:14:25 UTC+1 schrieb Pin Tail:
>
> I'm using the wonderful vis.js Timeline plugin 
>  to display tiddler info on an 
> interactive calendar.
>
> One thing I'd like to be able to do with this is display the result of a 
> filter as a caption on the timeline. For example, the following gives the 
> number of tiddlers with the test tag created in October 2017:
>
> <$count filter="[tag[test]regexp:created[^201710]]">
>
> I've put this into the caption field of a tiddler which appears on the 
> calendar widget. However, rather than evaluating the filter, the code is 
> displayed directly. Is there any way that instead the output of the filter 
> could be used as the caption on the timeline?
>

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[tw] vis.js Timeline - display filter result in caption

2018-01-27 Thread Pin Tail

I'm using the wonderful vis.js Timeline plugin 
 to display tiddler info on an 
interactive calendar.

One thing I'd like to be able to do with this is display the result of a 
filter as a caption on the timeline. For example, the following gives the 
number of tiddlers with the test tag created in October 2017:

<$count filter="[tag[test]regexp:created[^201710]]">

I've put this into the caption field of a tiddler which appears on the 
calendar widget. However, rather than evaluating the filter, the code is 
displayed directly. Is there any way that instead the output of the filter 
could be used as the caption on the timeline?

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

Ciao Mat

If you thinking of TiddlySpot saves a Noteself made solo on computer with 
only local Pouch *I CAN'T see the point.* It adds nothing to what we do 
already. Just use a normal TW.

It only gets exciting with live on-line connect to that remote DB that lets 
you "do-it" from many places. I can't tell you what is in the backend much 
other than it supports a JSON data structure.

Josiah


On Saturday, 27 January 2018 16:29:27 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> 2018-01-27 16:09 GMT+01:00 @TiddlyTweeter  >:
>
>> Ciao Mat
>>
>> Even though I am Dumbo I find your notes on this dumb. :-) Lol! 
>>
>
> Haha! You may be right (Even the sun has its spots, to quote my old 
> English teacher)
>
>  
>
>> Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> Basically, my idea here is merely to use TiddlySpot as the backend 
>>> server side storage. 
>>>
>>
>> Errm. TiddlySpot is NOT a database, its a page saver. Noteself saves its 
>> contents to a DATABASE.
>>
>
> Well, I only proposed to use TS as a storage. Does NoteSelf require a 
> separate database - isn't that what that TiddlyPouch/Couch is? I.e what 
> uses my local browser to store stuff?
>  
>
> The best you might get is a TiddlySpot TW as a PUBLIC instance. That could 
>> be useful. You will still need a backend.
>>
>
> Does NS require more than the modified TW document and the browser 
> database? What functionality is not contained in those two parts? What is 
> actually stored in the backend, or what does it do?
>
> Thanks!
>
> <:-)
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

2018-01-27 Thread Matias Goldman

2018-01-27 16:09 GMT+01:00 @TiddlyTweeter :

> Ciao Mat
>
> Even though I am Dumbo I find your notes on this dumb. :-) Lol!
>

Haha! You may be right (Even the sun has its spots, to quote my old English
teacher)

> Mat wrote:
>>
>> Basically, my idea here is merely to use TiddlySpot as the backend server
>> side storage.
>>
>
> Errm. TiddlySpot is NOT a database, its a page saver. Noteself saves its
> contents to a DATABASE.
>

Well, I only proposed to use TS as a storage. Does NoteSelf require a
separate database - isn't that what that TiddlyPouch/Couch is? I.e what
uses my local browser to store stuff?

The best you might get is a TiddlySpot TW as a PUBLIC instance. That could
> be useful. You will still need a backend.
>

Does NS require more than the modified TW document and the browser
database? What functionality is not contained in those two parts? What is
actually stored in the backend, or what does it do?

Thanks!

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

Ciao Mat

Even though I am Dumbo I find your notes on this dumb. :-) Lol!

Mat wrote:
>
> Basically, my idea here is merely to use TiddlySpot as the backend server 
> side storage. 
>

Errm. TiddlySpot is NOT a database, its a page saver. Noteself saves its 
contents to a DATABASE.

The best you might get is a TiddlySpot TW as a PUBLIC instance. That could 
be useful. You will still need a backend.

Josiah

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?

2018-01-27 Thread Birthe C

You will need $:/macros/skeeve/dateTime.js

Then for New Staff Meeting button write:

<$button tooltip="new staff meeting">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="minutes" text="" />New Staff 
Meeting

And

New Phone Call button

<$button tooltip="New PhoneCall button">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="call" text="" />New PhoneCall

Birthe

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?

as @PMario says, this is very old and you don't need skeeve's solution to 
accomplish this

this alone in a tiddler should already do what you want:


\define phonecall-button-actions()
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$(description)$ $(dateformat)$" $field="tags" 
$value="$(tag)$"/><$action-navigate $to="$(description)$ $(dateformat)$"/>
\end

<$vars tag="PhoneCall" description="Phone call today" dateformat=<>>
<$button>
<>new phone call



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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?


>
> @BurningTreeC
>

The tag $tag$ placed into base_skeleton did take care of the JavaScript 
Error when editing tags - thank you.

These buttons now work - that is to say they quietly create a tiddler that 
I must go find to edit (using the recent tab may be easiest way to find, 
although inelegant)

Now I am searching for the extra convenience of being jumped straight from 
the New Phone Call/Meeting button to the edit the new tiddler feature.

Thank you BurningTreeC!

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:36:20 PM UTC+1, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
> I found and imported his/her $:/let widget and $:/newtiddler widget, as 
> well as the standard tiddler 'base_skeleton'.
>

Hi, 
Skeeve's stuff is "magic" but super old, super hacky and not maintained 
atm. ... Many of the ideas, are implemented in a slightly different way in 
the core already. 

So chances are high, that you blow up your stuff. 

IMO it would make more sense if you describe your usecase and we implement 
the stuff from scratch. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?


>
> I assume I'm not supposed to be CREATING a new tag and inserting my own 
> variableName like this '{{variableName||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}'
>

that's how this work as I remember right. look at the page, there's the 
"base_skeleton" tiddler (search in the sidebar search for base_skeleton)
that tiddler has an empty tag. if you create a tiddler with a tag like 
$variable$ - you'll get such an empty tag. I think that's what the creator 
did there 

>
> It would be curious (to me) for tags to contain variables.
>

the variables get defined before, the skeleton tiddler gets used to put the 
variables to the places where they should be after the new tiddler is 
created 

>
> As far as the "jump straight into edit mode for new tiddler", I think it 
> has to do with:
>
>   if(this.newtiddlerEdit === "yes") {  this.dispatchEvent({type: 
> "tw-edit-tiddler", tiddlerTitle: title});  }
>
> So I created a tiddler titled "this.newtiddlerEdit" with text of "yes" - 
> but it does not work (yet)
>

this is the wrong approach, you can let this go 

>
> All thoughts are appreciated.
>
> I know these buttons were created and shared - but I can't figure all the 
> hooks to make them work.
>


you could try this:



<$vars tag="call">
<$newtiddler title=<> 
skeleton="base_skeleton" edit="yes">New Phone Call
 


put this in a tiddler and create another tiddler called "base_skeleton"

in the "base_skeleton" tiddler create a tag $tag$and save it

then try the button


BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

Hi,

I did create a new issue: https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/issues/9 ... 
Where you can "bump" me from time to time, if it takes too long ;)

-m

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

Hi Diego,

I did upload a new version v0.3.0 
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/ , which also assignes 
uni-alias-missing 

 
class, which defaults to red. 


have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Ciao Jan

Regarding STARTING in Presentation Mode. 

*Absolutely right for the purpose.*

IF I were using this to convey information I would NOT allow access to 
anything else in a published version. I think it works best as just a 
presentation--and nothing but a presentation. 

No reader needs to know its a TW. That is not the aim. (Maybe this implies 
TWO versions? An Author version and a Published version?)

In other words, for a "Public Version", I think a way to configure it so 
you ONLY get a presentation and then an EXIT button. Nothing more. IMO its 
heightens its impact to do that.

Just thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism



Hi, I did upload a new version. ... 


There should be an improvement with TW5FontAwesome plugin. .. But I can't 
test, since I don't know how to reproduce the issue. 

It's still a temporary fix, which needs more work. 


V 0.3.0 - 2018.01.27

   - add: styling possibility for missing aliases
   - improve: history and copyright

V 0.2.1 - 2018.01.27

   - fix: uni-link creates an unused a-element

have fun!

mario

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?

@BurningTreeC

Thank you for your thoughts. 

I am reading through '$:/plugins/skeeve/newtiddler.js' to find the 
answer...  

I assume I'm not supposed to be CREATING a new tag and inserting my own 
variableName like this '{{variableName||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}'

It would be curious (to me) for tags to contain variables.

As far as the "jump straight into edit mode for new tiddler", I think it 
has to do with:

  if(this.newtiddlerEdit === "yes") {  this.dispatchEvent({type: 
"tw-edit-tiddler", tiddlerTitle: title});  }

So I created a tiddler titled "this.newtiddlerEdit" with text of "yes" - 
but it does not work (yet)

All thoughts are appreciated.

I know these buttons were created and shared - but I can't figure all the 
hooks to make them work.  

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[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Ciao Jan

I'm UNCLEAR what the difference is between ">>" and ">" in the navigator?

Are they both needed?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Ciao Jan

There is a problem with "activate the keyboard" on touch devices that have 
no physical keyboard (like Windows tablets). What happens is that you get 
an on-screen keyboard that then takes over a lot of the screen and ruins 
the presentation.

Its maybe not been in your thinking but SWIPE LEFT to bring on the next 
would likely work better. I have no idea how you could do that, not being a 
programmer myself. But maybe worth looking at for devices that only have 
on-screen keyboards. 

Best wishes
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Re: [tw] Noteself on TiddlySpot? @Danielo

2018-01-27 Thread Matias Goldman

Thanx for reply Danielo!


> From Noteself point of view this does not make much sense. Noteself is
> designed as an application for working offline on your browser with support
> for an specific kind of backend for server side storage. Any scenario out
> of that one is not officially supported and I didn't take it in account
> while designing Noteself.
>

When saying "specific kind of backend for server side storage", are you
referring to what CloudAnt provide (provided), or what?
Basically, my idea here is merely to use TiddlySpot as the backend server
side storage. I can fully understand that this was not what you had in
mind... but it would be really neat if it worked. Many people are familiar
with TiddlySpot and uploading to it is of course already integrated in
native TW... even in NoteSelf! Now that CloudAnt requires payment, I think
it would be super useful if NoteSelf could use other simple server storages
as backend.


> Please note that Noteself is a tiddlywiky edition and it relies on a set
> of heavily opinionated modifications over the normal tiddlywiky edition.
>

No prob. As long as it's TW it's all(?) modifiable :-)

That said, I have always aimed at providing maximum compatibility with
> tiddlywiky and it's ecosystem (not sure why, to be honest). This can lead
> to some people making fun experiments that work and some others that does
> not. For example, the recent bug fixes allows you to download your entire
> wiki as an  standalone file with the tiddlers hard-coded on the html as
> usual while keeping the ability of adding more tiddlers on top of the local
> database. Like some short of snapshot system.
>

I, for one, really appreciate your aim for TW compatability. I also think
it makes sense; I think your NoteSelf user base mostly comes from the TW
community so it's probably a good idea to aim for compatability.



> I'm not sure right now how the download mechanism works. It may be my own
> plugin baking the tiddlers and then downloading the file or it may allow
> the next saving mechanism handle the work.
> The error you are reporting seems to be more related to one limitation
> tiddlywiky has. If you install a plugin that requires raw tiddlers to be
> installed on the head section of the html file (like tiddlypouch does) you
> will have to reload the wiki twice. This is not a problem on the file
> edition, but it is a real pain in the neck for cloud saving mechanisms.
>

Any way around this?



> Your best bet is to go to the online version, configure your tiddlyspot
> credentials and attempt to upload from there.
>

Fails when attempting.

Anybody else succeeds? If I understand Danielo correct, it is simply to:

 go to https://noteself.github.io/
click "online"
and in the Controlpanel > Saving > Tiddlyspot ..fill in the tiddlyspot site
+ password and upload.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter

Ciao Jan

It has really moved on and is becoming really good!

I will study it more. Here is a my first issue: about text layout.

You use JUSTIFIED lines. In some conditions that is NOT good. LEFT aligned 
may be better across platforms and devices. Here is an example where it 
goes wrong ...



Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?

hello @JWHoneycutt,

If I remember right, this needs a skeleton tiddler to work

the tag you are describing I think is only showed like this because it 
holds "$variable$" as a placeholder

I guess the button creates a variable that should be inserted as a tag or 
similar

that variable would be there like {{$variablename$||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}

on the site you linked to you can find a step by step instruction


good luck!
BurningTreeC

Am Samstag, 27. Januar 2018 13:36:20 UTC+1 schrieb JWHoneycutt:
>
>
> I am trying to import the "New Phone Call" and "New Staff Meeting" button 
> functionality from (Skeeve?) / TW5 Magick.
>
> I found and imported his/her $:/let widget and $:/newtiddler widget, as 
> well as the standard tiddler 'base_skeleton'.
>
> Importing TW5 Magick's tiddler `base_skeleton` (from 
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/) with the tag of 
> `{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}` causes a consistent Internal JavaScript 
> Error when I subsequently try to modify ANY tiddlers tags.
>
> It works beautifully on http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> I'm not sure what the line 'skeleton="base_skeleton"' accomplishes.  I am 
> pretty confident the tag above is my culprit.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> JWHoneycutt
>

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[tw] Re: Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?


If I delete the 'base_skeleton' tiddler and any reference to it,

The New Phone Call and New Staff Meeting buttons work, but lose the crucial 
functionality of placing me directly into them in edit mode.

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[tw] Why does the tag {{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} work for TW5 Magick, but not for me?