[tw5] Re: [marketing TW] How can we create many specific entrances?

[Jel]

NO! Tiddlywiki is a tool, not a con. Sorry, marketeers, this tool is as 
attractive as a lathe - and lathes can be very attractive to someone who 
knows and appreciates their features and facilities. If you know how to use 
a lathe, you can make something, or a tool to make something, which *is* 
defined by a market need, the same here. But the market does NOT define the 
tool. So clear off, marketing men, stop trying to take *everything* over 
with your variants in The Kings New Clothes:if you're so brilliant in your 
omniscient knowledge, go play in your own sandpit and produce something 
better. Tiddlywiki succeeds precisely BECAUSE it isn't specific:to a need. 
If I have a need, to meet, it firstly needs specification, by examining 
thoughts, squeezing here, expanding there, filtering and sorting sheep from 
goats, until my ducks are in a row and a complex network of interacting 
considerations can be reduced to a linear explanation "because A then B". 
TW allows that kind of network, so we can twist it, push and pull it, until 
what we have on the screen is a series of tiddlers which make sense. This 
sorts out the messes you specialise in creating 
, 
because it cuts through the rhubarb and allows the design team to correct 
its targetting. A lathe is something simple which can have specialist 
features added as needed: it spins something so something else can shape 
it. If I need a toolpost, I bolt it on. Equally so with TW: it is at heart 
simply a heap of conceptual memes, how you sort them out and what you do 
with them is entirely up to you, with what you bolt on by way of add-ins. 
In a way, even the Tiddler-Journal split's an error, journals are simply 
derivative Tiddlers.
Effectively, what you're doing is getting the tail to wag the dog. In pure 
logic terms, marketing drills down towards a specific definition of an 
instance of something needed - and that is as far as it goes, TW goes the 
other way, generalising so it can handle as much as possible. That's 
precisely why it's useful, and exactly what you hate. Well, hate yourself, 
because that's where the error lies. TW does NOT need branding, or a 
makeover, or any of the fancy-pants add-ons which will turn it into 
functional candy-floss in time. And yes, I am a TW Classic User because the 
TW5 makeover threw some parts of the baby I need out with the bathwater: 
what you should have done was tidy up the OO structure, sure, but at the 
same time with the extensions needed to preserve TWC interfacing. It's 
exactly what MS has to do with Windows, keep a compatibility-mode until 
orphaned code is eventually upgraded to become compatible. Just like the 
TW5 coders, MS failed to do in the early versions, they've learned the 
lesson and preserve backwards compatibility now, and that's a lesson to 
keep in mind for the future.
I date so far back in computing my surname's at the centre of all code (I'm 
Jeremy Main, and MAIN() came from a bad joke 50 years ago, contributing to 
the design of one of the first compilers which Bell Labs picked over when 
planning how to write C). The quid pro quo of working in OpenSource is that 
your work too is OpenSource, so although you should be the person who 
defines how your code mutates over time, if you abandon it, as LEWCID did, 
then it reverts to community property and it's one of the functions of the 
community steering group to take orphaned code in hand and find it a new 
stepfather. That's how to complete the TW5 migration, and it does NOT mean 
peddling hogwash.
In fact, you demonstrate your inability to get things straight inside your 
first clause. From a marketing point? What is a marketing point? I take it 
you mean a point of view, but if you're so muddy-minded as not to be 
precise in your definitions, then what hope does anyone have of meeting 
your requirements? Within four words, you already created the kind of 
confusion shown in that cartoon. 

On Wednesday, 11 April 2018 06:16:37 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> From a marketing point, TW suffers from being too general. It kind of 
> solves everything but this means someone looking for, say, recipe data base 
> tool will choose "The Recipe Data Base Tool" rather than "TiddlyWiki". And 
> someone looking for the Keto 
>  diet 
> will turn to... you get it. And so on for every subject/issue/need.
>
> So, what would it take for TW to have "multiple entrances"? One "entrance" 
> that really is for 'recipe people'. Another that really attracts those 
> feeling ketosis. Etc.
>
> I have some thoughts (not necessarily great or practical ones) but before 
> I let them steer your associations, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>
> How can we actually make this be real? (as opposed to hypothetically if we 
> had a marketing budget etc)
>
> <:-)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Care to beta test Tekkan One?

[MrsJB Wells]

Thanks so much for the quick reply. I've been using GSD5 for years and 
decided on a change. I want to import all the open actions from GSD5 to the 
Tekan One but when I do they don't appear anywhere on the board. That's why 
I was going to try and go into the back and sort it out. I've read all 
notes that can be found [if you google various versions of Tekan TW5] but 
can't seem to find a way. Would you have any advice on how I could import 
the tiddlers?

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[tw5] Re: Care to beta test Tekkan One?

[Riz]

Hi

Standalone version do not have a TW mode. I made it simply to be used as a 
Kanban. 

PS: If you are just starting out and have not committed much time into it, 
you are better off with Reid Gould's Dropboard TW as I have shifted away 
from working on TW due to issues. Dropboard is expected to have more 
regular updates and fixes. 

Have a great day.

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 09:55:50 UTC+5:30, MrsJB Wells wrote:
>
> Morning Riz .. was working with the plugin for awhile but have now started 
> using your standalone version. I can't seem to get into TW mode with the 
> standalone, am I missing something? 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Care to beta test Tekkan One?

[MrsJB Wells]

Morning Riz .. was working with the plugin for awhile but have now started 
using your standalone version. I can't seem to get into TW mode with the 
standalone, am I missing something? 


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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[Maarten]

hi JD,

nice work, but a strange thing: in one of my wikis (running on node,js) the 
sidebar pushes the story away and both are visible. But in the other, with 
(as far as I can discover ALL settings are the same), the sidebar slides 
open but the story stays in the same place and is only partly visible.

Any idea what can cause this?

Maarten


On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:37:26 PM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>
> Hello folks, I've been playing around with Google's Material design and 
> would like to share what I created so far... 
>
> http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com
>
> ...in hindsight, I think overwriting core image tiddlers (and "more 
> tiddler actions" button) might not be the best way to go... So, for anybody 
> who wants to try this out, there's that info for you. I'll probably cut 
> those overwritten portions away in an update... 
>
> Oh. Please try out the palettes under Control Panel > Appearance > 
> Material Tweaks, they're specifically designed for this theme...
>
> ***
>
> I've been testing this with the v.v. amazing Noteself fork with a Cloudant 
> account (and the android app! So freaking cool)... The 
> setup just made my life easier (I've been meaning to send some feedback 
> but I've recently been very busy I'm sorry). 
>
> So, thanks, everyone. I've been enjoying my visits here in Google Groups. 
> You guys are awesome innovators! I get shy just thinking about how little I 
> can contribute... Y'all are some of the coolest forum-goers around. 
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki and Cryptomator

[Arlen Beiler]

I use Cryptomater with TiddlyServer. I just mount the drive letter in the
settings tree then whenever I unlock the vault it automatically allows
access to the drive. When you lock the vault the drive is removed and
TiddlyServer returns a 404. TiddlyServer does all checking during each page
load, so it does not matter if mount points appear and disappear. This, of
course, assumes that the drive letter is always the same.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:31 AM, TonyM  wrote:

> Alex,
>
> I think you are using webDave to effectively mount an encrypted drive, ie
> webdav is providing a services and has nothing to do with TiddlyWiki. If
> you want to save files on any drive then you should be able to use any file
> save mechanisium or  host to publish your wiki that saves updates on your
> behalf (if such solution can use the mounted drive).
>
> Hosting Tiddlywiki with webdav is documneted here through marios great
> videos
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpkQhKyqPzc=PLuiC_
> HFhI4OwoVDb-B-VK0ydj-mBPNn-1%5D%5D%2C or https://www.youtube.com/
> watch?v=tpkQhKyqPzc=PLuiC_HFhI4OwoVDb-B-VK0ydj-mBPNn-1]],
>
> Search for the other videos in the series.
>
> Note WebDav demands login not anonymous if you want to write.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 10:16:23 PM UTC+10, Alex wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was exploring various ways of automatically saving TW file with
>> WebDAV.  And my thoughts turned to Cryptomator (www.cryptomator.org).
>>
>> Basically, this is an app which creates a vault - an encrypted file
>> system (sort of), and provides access to it via WebDAV. Normally, on
>> windows, the WebDAV interface gets mapped to a windows drive right away,
>> and then it is possible to have file-system like access to your files. My
>> idea was, that if I
>>
>> 1. put my TW html file into cryptomator vault,
>> 2. then obtain direct webdav link to that file,
>> 3. I should be able to open it in browser and then edits should be
>> automatically saved.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I ran into problems with step 3. When I enter the link (it
>> looks like http://192.168.0.1:port/path/file.html) into browser, it does
>> not open the file but offers to save it instead. Do you know if there is
>> any way of resolving such issue?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Mohammad]

Jeremy!
The highlight plugin may be updated for the latest highlight.js 9.12

Mohammad

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:56:26 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thanks Mohammad, I’ll correct it,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 13 Apr 2018, at 09:18, Mohammad  
> wrote:
>
> Is katex on the prerealse is still 0.6?
>
> Look at
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fkatex
>
>
> The readme still states it is based on katex 0.6!
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 6:40:06 AM UTC+4:30, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
>> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is 
>> operator to allow multiple types to be specified.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>>> of exciting new features:
>>>
>>> * Copying to the clipboard
>>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>>> better extensibility and customisability
>>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>>> via declarative JSON rules
>>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>>> scrolling and zooming
>>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>>
>>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>>
>>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>>
>>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Mohammad, I’ll correct it,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 09:18, Mohammad  wrote:
> 
> Is katex on the prerealse is still 0.6?
> 
> Look at
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fkatex
>  
> 
> 
> 
> The readme still states it is based on katex 0.6!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 6:40:06 AM UTC+4:30, Matthew Lauber wrote:
> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 
>  Adding a <$range> widget 
> that supports all the features of the  element.
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 
>  Modify the is operator 
> to allow multiple types to be specified.
> 
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot of 
> exciting new features:
> 
> * Copying to the clipboard
> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
> better extensibility and customisability
> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability via 
> declarative JSON rules
> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
> scrolling and zooming
> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
> 
> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as possible 
> to give the prerelease a try:
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
> 
> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of your 
> personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
> 
> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Mohammad]

Is katex on the prerealse is still 0.6?

Look at

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fkatex


The readme still states it is based on katex 0.6!




On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 6:40:06 AM UTC+4:30, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is operator 
> to allow multiple types to be specified.
>
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>> of exciting new features:
>>
>> * Copying to the clipboard
>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>> better extensibility and customisability
>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>> via declarative JSON rules
>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>> scrolling and zooming
>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>
>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>
>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>
>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

[Morgaine O'Herne]

Two words: New Toy!
On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 4:41:21 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> This thread is a continuation from Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... 
> 
>  
> Here is a start ...
>
> I love #TiddlyWiki  because 
> ... of, in two words:  Radical #transclusion 
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