date:20180702


Dave

add a class statement to your button

eg;

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" 

   - class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" to have a button look like an 
   internal link. 
   - class="tc-btn-invisible" to have a button have no boarder


Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:36:01 AM UTC+10, Dave wrote:
>
> I put this
>
>
> <$button>
> ^
> <$list variable='Target' filter='[list[$:/StoryList]first[]]'>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> in the left menu ( $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/PageTemplate/LeftBar ) and 
> that works (but it looks out of place as its a button and the rest are more 
> esthetically pleasing)
>

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[tw5] Re: conditional operations


>
>  What do you think if use the left bar for table of contents?
>

Sounds like a good idea, but I have not done it yet.
 

>  There are some stuffs prepared by others like Tobias Beer, Jed carty, 
> Dave Graford, what do you think if you merge part of them here, those part 
> are useful?
>

   You mean similar documentation?, at the moment I will use all I can find 
to improve mine, but would like to write it in my words/structure
   Any community resource would of course reference them all
 

> Is it possible to invite others to help and have a community to prepare, 
> edit and review the contents?
>

   Yes, I am working on that and can already with Yammer, if you are 
Mohammad Rahmani you are a member already visit this document to 
collaborate on it https://www.yammer.com/tiddlywiki/#/files/140794632

if not  visit https://www.yammer.com/tiddlywiki to request an invite
 

Thank you too Mohammad

Tony 


> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:48:20 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>> I will build this document here https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au in the 
>> tiddler TiddlyWiki code structure
>> Published later today
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 9:58:08 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony!
>>>  This is great and helpful, worth to put somewhere to be accessible 
>>> later. In this forum is hard to find and follow stuffs later.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:56:41 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 Here is a dump of my draft document, it is in no way finished, but will 
 give you a feel for what I am trying to document. Please tell me what we 
 should include.

 I will try and show if then else while until etc.. in the long run

 Regards
 Tony

 1. SequenceOne step following anotherWith sequence it commonly stops 
 when you reach the bottom of a tiddler

- 1.1 Left to right, Top then down the wiki text, the first item is 
displayed above the next etc... down the page

 Note new line vs paragraphs

- 1.2 Using list and a filter to get a sequence of items displayed 
or acted on

 Using a list for sequence it commonly stops when the members of the 
 list finish/are exhausted, it then moves to the next line of the current 
 tiddler until you reach the bottom of a tiddlerThis can be impacted by 
 "Includes" see below.2. IterationRepeat for each item in a set, ending 
 when no more items are in the set or some condition is true/false

- 2.1 Using the list widget with a filter that has 0 or more 
members 
- 2.2 An iteration can be ordered using sorting
- 2.3 There are many ways to re-iterate, and you can re-iterate 
Macros, with transclusions and a lot more, most iterations will end 
 with no 
more members in a list or some other condition.

 3. SortingChoosing the order in which more than one item is listed

- 3.1 Filtered lists permit the addition of the sort[fieldname] 
filter operator which can be used to sort the final list

 Default is title or for tagged items the order in which they appear in 
 the tags list field!sort[fieldname] will reverse the order

- 3.2 Used with iteration to support the order in which the items 
are acted on 

 4. Selection/Decisionusing some condition to determine whether to 
 display something or not

- 4.1 A list field will list is membership if there are members. 
otherwise will not
- 4.2 If you need to determine if there are one or more (not Zero 
members), or any other number of something

 You can use the limit[n] filter operator so that limit[1] will display 
 only once if there is one or more members?Limit[0] works??Use ? 
 starting line for a different class

- 4.3 If you want to test there is no members?

 The emptyMessage is available on the list widget and emptyValue on the 
 set widget

- 4.4 What if you want to list the non-members

 Using the ! with the filter operatorsNote default set all regular 
 tiddlers so perhaps filter based on another condition first

- 4.5 The reveal widget allows a section to be displayed according 
to a match including comparisons

 Reveal widgets can also be nested

- 4.6 Simple Comparisons
- 4.7 Inclusion/exclusion and other selection tests
- The do nothing case or filter but exclude
- A tiddler but not those it is the prefix of

 [prefix[tiddlername]suffix[tiddlername]] is both its prefix and its 
 suffix

- 4.8 Selection and decisions can be made based on values that are 
in variables, Tiddlers, fields and more

 so review *Using Values and variables* or *Setting

[tw5] Re: Documentation: The Hydra Problem OR Not

2018-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

But it gets worse -- science now tells us that hydras may never die: 
https://www.livescience.com/53178-hydra-may-live-forever.html

It would be really nice if all hydras accidentally exposed their undersides 
like the one (ones?) in the video.

-- Mark




On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 10:04:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-dkIuIaz8
>
>
> So is it really that? The Hydra Route is battle.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: conditional operations

That is great Tony!
Just some points:
 What do you think if use the left bar for table of contents?
 There are some stuffs prepared by others like Tobias Beer, Jed carty, Dave 
Graford, what do you think if you merge part of them here, those part are 
useful?
Is it possibe to invite others to help and have a community to prepare, 
edit and review the contents?


Thank you again Tony

/Mohammad

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:48:20 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I will build this document here https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au in the 
> tiddler TiddlyWiki code structure
> Published later today
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 9:58:08 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony!
>>  This is great and helpful, worth to put somewhere to be accessible 
>> later. In this forum is hard to find and follow stuffs later.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:56:41 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Here is a dump of my draft document, it is in no way finished, but will 
>>> give you a feel for what I am trying to document. Please tell me what we 
>>> should include.
>>>
>>> I will try and show if then else while until etc.. in the long run
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> 1. SequenceOne step following anotherWith sequence it commonly stops 
>>> when you reach the bottom of a tiddler
>>>
>>>- 1.1 Left to right, Top then down the wiki text, the first item is 
>>>displayed above the next etc... down the page
>>>
>>> Note new line vs paragraphs
>>>
>>>- 1.2 Using list and a filter to get a sequence of items displayed 
>>>or acted on
>>>
>>> Using a list for sequence it commonly stops when the members of the list 
>>> finish/are exhausted, it then moves to the next line of the current tiddler 
>>> until you reach the bottom of a tiddlerThis can be impacted by 
>>> "Includes" see below.2. IterationRepeat for each item in a set, ending 
>>> when no more items are in the set or some condition is true/false
>>>
>>>- 2.1 Using the list widget with a filter that has 0 or more members 
>>>- 2.2 An iteration can be ordered using sorting
>>>- 2.3 There are many ways to re-iterate, and you can re-iterate 
>>>Macros, with transclusions and a lot more, most iterations will end with 
>>> no 
>>>more members in a list or some other condition.
>>>
>>> 3. SortingChoosing the order in which more than one item is listed
>>>
>>>- 3.1 Filtered lists permit the addition of the sort[fieldname] 
>>>filter operator which can be used to sort the final list
>>>
>>> Default is title or for tagged items the order in which they appear in 
>>> the tags list field!sort[fieldname] will reverse the order
>>>
>>>- 3.2 Used with iteration to support the order in which the items 
>>>are acted on 
>>>
>>> 4. Selection/Decisionusing some condition to determine whether to 
>>> display something or not
>>>
>>>- 4.1 A list field will list is membership if there are members. 
>>>otherwise will not
>>>- 4.2 If you need to determine if there are one or more (not Zero 
>>>members), or any other number of something
>>>
>>> You can use the limit[n] filter operator so that limit[1] will display 
>>> only once if there is one or more members?Limit[0] works??Use ? 
>>> starting line for a different class
>>>
>>>- 4.3 If you want to test there is no members?
>>>
>>> The emptyMessage is available on the list widget and emptyValue on the 
>>> set widget
>>>
>>>- 4.4 What if you want to list the non-members
>>>
>>> Using the ! with the filter operatorsNote default set all regular 
>>> tiddlers so perhaps filter based on another condition first
>>>
>>>- 4.5 The reveal widget allows a section to be displayed according 
>>>to a match including comparisons
>>>
>>> Reveal widgets can also be nested
>>>
>>>- 4.6 Simple Comparisons
>>>- 4.7 Inclusion/exclusion and other selection tests
>>>- The do nothing case or filter but exclude
>>>- A tiddler but not those it is the prefix of
>>>
>>> [prefix[tiddlername]suffix[tiddlername]] is both its prefix and its 
>>> suffix
>>>
>>>- 4.8 Selection and decisions can be made based on values that are 
>>>in variables, Tiddlers, fields and more
>>>
>>> so review *Using Values and variables* or *Setting Values and variables*5. 
>>> NestingThis is the process where one set of actions occur within 
>>> another set of actions, With tiddlywiki nesting can occur for many levels 
>>> "deep"This is how Case and Recursion below, amongst other structures 
>>> are possible.
>>>
>>>- 5.1 One implicit example of nesting is a Single ListWidget 
>>> in a particular 
>>>tiddler, it is in fact nesting its result in the existing tiddler
>>>- 5.2 In most cases anything you write can be nested within 
>>>something else, and as many deep as you choose.
>>>
>>> However if you nest your cu

[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Tony!
 I believe it should be possible to make money with TW. Why not! I believe 
it has this potential, while it is free and open source. It is great tool 
and can be used inside companies for many different application.

Everybody around me got familiar with it, downloaded and start using it in 
his/her daily work. I see people use it to prepare minutes of meeting. 
Before that they used MS Word. They dispatch their minutes of meeting as 
PDF.  I know some professors in use their course notes with Tiddlywiki, 
before that they used MsWord! Of course many people don't like to put their 
stuff on the internet, if so we could address here. Another case, I see 
students use it as database (using JSON tiddlers) to store and retrieve 
chemical data. In one other case I see it is used for putting flyers. 

If you focus just on the basic and standard version for storing, retrieving 
stuffs you will see many cases of application.

I myself not intent to make money, but I really wish others who spend a lot 
of time get money from/with TW.
I love TW and I want to have it alive, free and open source and have it 
better and better each year.

I really appreciate the great work of developers.

Thank you all
Mohammad

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:38:55 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I was not talking about making money from TiddlyWiki above, Perhaps we 
> can, but "making money *with* (rather than from) tiddlywiki" may be more 
> apt.
>
> I may however post on this soon at tiddlywiki.psat.com.au
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 3:50:05 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Good luck Tony! 
>> Hope people can make money from TW 😂 
>> Why not! 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [MuuriTouch] Reloaded

I put this


<$button>
^
<$list variable='Target' filter='[list[$:/StoryList]first[]]'>
<$action-navigate $to=<>/>



in the left menu ( $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/PageTemplate/LeftBar ) and 
that works (but it looks out of place as its a button and the rest are more 
esthetically pleasing)

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Re: [tw5] Re: conditional operations

Thanks Andreas,

Captured for future publishing, and possible reference.

I would love to make my own widgets, one day.

I have started working on the use of macros which return a true or false 
value then have a simple to read filter that interrogates this status. I 
have not yet posted about it, because there is some strange intermittent 
behaviour I have not identified. 

The Test will look something like this

<$list filter="[enlistprefix[true]]" variable="null">
Has caption



So in this case we use a "textual" description of the condition we are testing 
eg; hascaption


Regards

Tony



On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:35:23 AM UTC+10, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I figured this might be of interest for your collection, there is another 
> way to do conditionals within certain limits if one has the "Tinka" plugin 
> installed. Specifically, it includes a plugin similiar to the reveal widget 
> in its function but also allows you to check for regex expressions. An 
> example use (taken straight from the error-checking section of Tinka):
>
> 
>   <$tinka-check text={{!!create-title-org}} pattern="^[^\s]+$">
>   <$tinka-filter verb="fail">
>   <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> result="true"/>
>   <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> 
> errorTitle="The plugin title is not allowed to be empty or contain 
> whitespaces."/>
>   
> <$tinka-filter verb="pass">
> 
> 
>   
>
> This is entirely undocumented, but I think its a neat way to do a 
> conditional entirely with action widgets (all of those are). Note that 
> "pattern" could also just be a value of another tiddler field, in which 
> case the verbs "pass" and "fail" would correspond to "match" and "nomatch" 
> for the reveal widget. It does only work for action widgets though, since 
> nothing is rendered.
>
>
> /Andreas
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: conditional operations

2018-07-02 Thread 'Andreas Hahn' via TiddlyWiki


Hi Tony,

I figured this might be of interest for your collection, there is 
another way to do conditionals within certain limits if one has the 
"Tinka" plugin installed. Specifically, it includes a plugin similiar to 
the reveal widget in its function but also allows you to check for regex 
expressions. An example use (taken straight from the error-checking 
section of Tinka):


| <$tinka-check 
text={{!!create-title-org}} pattern="^[^\s]+$"> <$tinka-filter 
verb="fail"> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> result="true"/> 
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> errorTitle="The plugin title is 
not allowed to be empty or contain whitespaces."/>  
<$tinka-filter verb="pass">|


This is entirely undocumented, but I think its a neat way to do a 
conditional entirely with action widgets (all of those are). Note that 
"pattern" could also just be a value of another tiddler field, in which 
case the verbs "pass" and "fail" would correspond to "match" and 
"nomatch" for the reveal widget. It does only work for action widgets 
though, since nothing is rendered.



/Andreas

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[tw5] How to turn the Geolocation Script to a macro for Sylvain Naudins Leaflet Plugin?

2018-07-02 Thread Jan


Hello,
I would like to have a macro which uses this script
https://www.w3schools.com/Html/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_geolocation
to capture the geolocation.
It should trigger a Modal with a button to write
position.coords.longitude ,position.coords.latitude
to a field called points in a new tiddler.

(This is what I would furnish if I got the geolocation as a 
name/variable. somehow.I would also make a button also add it to a path.)


This would be a great feature to have in Sylvain Naudins Leaflet Plugin 
(http://sycom.github.io/TiddlyWiki-Plugins/#Leaflet%20plugin)


Thanks for your help!
Yours
Jan







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[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Mohammad,

I will build this document here https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au in the 
tiddler TiddlyWiki code structure
Published later today

Regards
Tony

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 9:58:08 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Tony!
>  This is great and helpful, worth to put somewhere to be accessible later. 
> In this forum is hard to find and follow stuffs later.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:56:41 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Here is a dump of my draft document, it is in no way finished, but will 
>> give you a feel for what I am trying to document. Please tell me what we 
>> should include.
>>
>> I will try and show if then else while until etc.. in the long run
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> 1. SequenceOne step following anotherWith sequence it commonly stops 
>> when you reach the bottom of a tiddler
>>
>>- 1.1 Left to right, Top then down the wiki text, the first item is 
>>displayed above the next etc... down the page
>>
>> Note new line vs paragraphs
>>
>>- 1.2 Using list and a filter to get a sequence of items displayed or 
>>acted on
>>
>> Using a list for sequence it commonly stops when the members of the list 
>> finish/are exhausted, it then moves to the next line of the current tiddler 
>> until you reach the bottom of a tiddlerThis can be impacted by 
>> "Includes" see below.2. IterationRepeat for each item in a set, ending 
>> when no more items are in the set or some condition is true/false
>>
>>- 2.1 Using the list widget with a filter that has 0 or more members 
>>- 2.2 An iteration can be ordered using sorting
>>- 2.3 There are many ways to re-iterate, and you can re-iterate 
>>Macros, with transclusions and a lot more, most iterations will end with 
>> no 
>>more members in a list or some other condition.
>>
>> 3. SortingChoosing the order in which more than one item is listed
>>
>>- 3.1 Filtered lists permit the addition of the sort[fieldname] 
>>filter operator which can be used to sort the final list
>>
>> Default is title or for tagged items the order in which they appear in 
>> the tags list field!sort[fieldname] will reverse the order
>>
>>- 3.2 Used with iteration to support the order in which the items are 
>>acted on 
>>
>> 4. Selection/Decisionusing some condition to determine whether to 
>> display something or not
>>
>>- 4.1 A list field will list is membership if there are members. 
>>otherwise will not
>>- 4.2 If you need to determine if there are one or more (not Zero 
>>members), or any other number of something
>>
>> You can use the limit[n] filter operator so that limit[1] will display 
>> only once if there is one or more members?Limit[0] works??Use ? starting 
>> line for a different class
>>
>>- 4.3 If you want to test there is no members?
>>
>> The emptyMessage is available on the list widget and emptyValue on the 
>> set widget
>>
>>- 4.4 What if you want to list the non-members
>>
>> Using the ! with the filter operatorsNote default set all regular 
>> tiddlers so perhaps filter based on another condition first
>>
>>- 4.5 The reveal widget allows a section to be displayed according to 
>>a match including comparisons
>>
>> Reveal widgets can also be nested
>>
>>- 4.6 Simple Comparisons
>>- 4.7 Inclusion/exclusion and other selection tests
>>- The do nothing case or filter but exclude
>>- A tiddler but not those it is the prefix of
>>
>> [prefix[tiddlername]suffix[tiddlername]] is both its prefix and its 
>> suffix
>>
>>- 4.8 Selection and decisions can be made based on values that are in 
>>variables, Tiddlers, fields and more
>>
>> so review *Using Values and variables* or *Setting Values and variables*5. 
>> NestingThis is the process where one set of actions occur within another 
>> set of actions, With tiddlywiki nesting can occur for many levels "deep"This 
>> is how Case and Recursion below, amongst other structures are possible.
>>
>>- 5.1 One implicit example of nesting is a Single ListWidget 
>> in a particular 
>>tiddler, it is in fact nesting its result in the existing tiddler
>>- 5.2 In most cases anything you write can be nested within something 
>>else, and as many deep as you choose.
>>
>> However if you nest your current tiddler in the current tiddler you *may* 
>> face infinite recursion (like between two mirrors)See 7.x Recursion for 
>> intentional use of this ability
>>
>>- 5.3 Example Nesting list widgets
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="filter1">
>> Do this for each filter1 case
>><$list filter="filter2">
>>Do this for each filter2 case
>><$list filter="filter3">
>>Do this for each filter3 case
>>   <$list filter="filter4">
>>  Do this for each filter4 case
>>   
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Notes:* 
>>
>>- If the number of le

[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Mohammad,

I was not talking about making money from TiddlyWiki above, Perhaps we can, 
but "making money *with* (rather than from) tiddlywiki" may be more apt.

I may however post on this soon at tiddlywiki.psat.com.au

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 3:50:05 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Good luck Tony! 
> Hope people can make money from TW 😂 
> Why not! 
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin on TiddlywikiDesktop?

That was it (the recent version is 0.0.13).  Caught by the second version 
issue in a week (D'Oh!) - well, hopefully admitting stupid mistakes will 
help someone else avoid the same thing.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin on TiddlywikiDesktop?

Just thought of checking my tiddlydesktop version - its 0.0.8.

I can't tell what the recent version is from the website 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop, maybe 0.0.14?

I'll try updating that and let you know if that fixes it.

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[tw5] Re: [MuuriTouch] Reloaded

Oh, and an icon on the left menu like "^" to jump to the top of the story 
column would be cool...  I have one I stole from somewhere in the main menu 
on the right, but obviously that isn't accessible if the right menu is 
closed.

And I'm not sure if my previous question came across right - I meant the 
controls on each individual tiddler on its right.  Re-reading your above 
response I could read it either way... just clarifying
- Dave

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin on TiddlywikiDesktop?

I installed it the drag and drop way, and I'm running ubuntu 17.10

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> @Dave, on what operating system is your TiddlyDesktop copy running?
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

2018-07-02 Thread Adam

Don't worry, GitHub is just a service. Git is the software that you are 
actually learning and I believe is the best way to achieve version control 
in software. I am a complete noob myself regarding Git and all the services 
that provide it so there is no need to worry if you make mistakes as no one 
is going to judge you! The good thing is that you have created something 
great (your theme) and get to learn Git by trying to improve it. 

Adam

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[tw5] Re: Sidebar Default Tab

Hello, I am just re-asking this.

Is the "Default sidebar tab" option only for when the state tiddler does 
not exist, and not for every page refresh? 

Although I can simply create a startup-actions tiddler that will delete the 
sidebar tab state tiddler, I was wondering if there was more to it.

-JD


On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 3:56:52 PM UTC+9, David A. Gershman wrote:
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> Hello, 
>
> I created a TableOfContents tab for my side bar and then went into the 
> control panel and navigated to: 
>
> Settings -> Default Sidebar Tab 
>
> and selected "TableOfContents".  However, when I close my browser (which 
> clears all data) and reopen my TiddlyWiki, the default tab which shows 
> is still "Tools". 
>
> Thoughts? 
>
> --David 
>
> P.S.  Running version 5.1.15 
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[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Good luck Tony!
Hope people can make money from TW 😂
Why not!

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

Oh, yeah. I'm barely scratching the surface with what I can do with it. Or 
maybe I'm already at the surface. Well, from what I read on their docs the 
best way to learn github is to use github. I guess we can also say that 
about most software :D

Thanks for the info Josiah

-JD

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:15:17 AM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> GitHub, once you know what you are doing, I think is very good for 
> software maintenance. I, myself, never got to a PR yet, but I do comment on 
> Issues quite often there. Github does not have the serious problems Google 
> Groups has with lost history. It makes life easier, I think. The developer 
> can much better gauge where they are and what is important.
>
> Just MO.
> Josiah 
>
> JD wrote:
>
>> ... Hopefully, this will help me keep this theme updated. 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki In The Sky Problems, Please Help!

2018-07-02 Thread Jake Mansbridge

Hi Mark,

thanks for your help – I'm cautiously optimistic at the moment, but using 
Quine has appeared to work! 

Cheers,
Jake.

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

GitHub, once you know what you are doing, I think is very good for software 
maintenance. I, myself, never got to a PR yet, but I do comment on Issues 
quite often there. Github does not have the serious problems Google Groups 
has with lost history. It makes life easier, I think. The developer can 
much better gauge where they are and what is important.

Just MO.
Josiah 

JD wrote:

> ... Hopefully, this will help me keep this theme updated. 
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[tw5] Documentation: The Hydra Problem OR Not

Mark S. Wrote: "It would be great to write up an all-up tutorial, but like 
attacking a hydra, where do you begin?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-dkIuIaz8

Cope with the LERNAEAN HYDRA ? 
Its a great question. Highly relevant.

Looking BROADLY at the docs it can seem like an an engagement where the 
penitential documenter takes on the role of SISYPHUS 
. A Hydra tamer in for several 
thousand iterations and needing final Extreme Unction. But over Herculean, 
I think.

So is it really that? The Hydra Route is battle.

What other easier routes exist more easily?




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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:14:04 AM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> great name for a repository! though github.com/jdx6 might work too. J.
>

Oh snap! Well I quickly grabbed the first free multiple of "jd" still 
available 🤣
Hopefully, this will help me keep this theme updated. 
I will also move some other stuff to github and will present them here in 
Google Groups if they ever become ready...
(or is that defeating its purpose?) 

JD,
>
> Amazing! You don't need to thank me, I use your theme as my main theme all 
> day!
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>

Wow, that's really cool!  Please don't hesitate to send feedback and bug 
reports! 

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

2018-07-02 Thread Adam

JD,

Amazing! You don't need to thank me, I use your theme as my main theme all 
day!

Cheers,
Adam

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

great name for a repository! though github.com/jdx6 might work too. J.

JD wrote:
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> I created the repository as suggested... It's here: 
> https://github.com/jdjdjdjdjdjd/TW5-Material 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of 😅)

Hey man, it seems it really would be easier to track this in a centralized 
place.

I created the repository as suggested... It's 
here: https://github.com/jdjdjdjdjdjd/TW5-Material

Please do report issues there, and thanks again for your feedback! 



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> Greetings,
>
> because I have found some more bugs in the theme, I would like to ask you 
> whether you have uploaded it to a repository, so issues can be created for 
> them.
>
> If we mention bugs here then we can't keep track of them and also we can't 
> know if there is progress resolving them. Ultimately we don't really know 
> when to update the theme we have installed.
>
> I have been using your theme for many days now and it is magnificent. Keep 
> up the good work and thank you for it!
>
> Kind regards,
> Adam
>

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[tw5] Re: Andtidwiki and dropbox not working on android 8.0

2018-07-02 Thread LDL

Hi Wil, thanks for the suggestions. I checked the permissions and they were 
already enabled. 

Ton, thank you for confirming the problem; manually moving the wiki file to 
the andtidwiki folder on local storage works also for me and could be a 
partial solution.

All the best.

Il giorno lunedì 2 luglio 2018 17:43:11 UTC+2, Ton Gerner ha scritto:
>
> Hi LDL,
>
> Just to confirm your findings:
>
> * With Android 6 I can load/edit/save a file from Dropbox
> * With Android 8 I get the 'File not found ...' error.
>
> Permissions for storage are enabled (by default), so that cannot be the 
> problem.
>
> As such AndTidWiki works: When I transfer a TW2 or TW5 file from my Linux 
> PC to the internal storage of the phone (/storage/emulated/0/andtidwiki), 
> it will be displayed when I open AndTidWiki and I can edit and save it.
>
> Sorry, I have no solution for the combination Dropbox an AndTidWiki. May 
> be others have ideas.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Andtidwiki and dropbox not working on android 8.0

I lost the address for its support group. Its very quiet, but the guy 
behind it does respond after time.

Do you have it? 

On Monday, 2 July 2018 17:43:11 UTC+2, Ton Gerner wrote:
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> Hi LDL,
>
> Just to confirm your findings:
>
> * With Android 6 I can load/edit/save a file from Dropbox
> * With Android 8 I get the 'File not found ...' error.
>
> Permissions for storage are enabled (by default), so that cannot be the 
> problem.
>
> As such AndTidWiki works: When I transfer a TW2 or TW5 file from my Linux 
> PC to the internal storage of the phone (/storage/emulated/0/andtidwiki), 
> it will be displayed when I open AndTidWiki and I can edit and save it.
>
> Sorry, I have no solution for the combination Dropbox an AndTidWiki. May 
> be others have ideas.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Editing Problem on Kindle Fire

2018-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This sounds like something is wrong with your selected input method. 
Testing with a Kindle 7 and Jed's Bob multi-user. Works with the standard 
keyboard and with the anysoft keyboard. 

Consider testing with other online apps and see if they have the same input 
problems.

Maybe you need to reboot?

-- Mark

On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 6:58:51 AM UTC-7, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>
> I'm unable to edit old TW5 content on my Kindle Fire. When i press the 
> edit icon, TW switches to the editor.  It lets me enter new characters, but 
> I can't backspace over existing characters or otherwise replace them.
>
> A real Handy use-case for TW on a Kindle is to run TW in a browser (to a 
> remote node.js TW) to take notes while reading an e-book.  But if the 
> editor won't allow editing existing text, one had best not save any typos!
>
> The issue appears to be in a core Kindle component, because the behavior 
> is the same with Silk, Chrome, and Firefox.
>
> Any ideas for a work-around?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Andtidwiki and dropbox not working on android 8.0

2018-07-02 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi LDL,

Just to confirm your findings:

* With Android 6 I can load/edit/save a file from Dropbox
* With Android 8 I get the 'File not found ...' error.

Permissions for storage are enabled (by default), so that cannot be the 
problem.

As such AndTidWiki works: When I transfer a TW2 or TW5 file from my Linux 
PC to the internal storage of the phone (/storage/emulated/0/andtidwiki), 
it will be displayed when I open AndTidWiki and I can edit and save it.

Sorry, I have no solution for the combination Dropbox an AndTidWiki. May be 
others have ideas.

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

Sally Potter's rendition of ORLANDO, Virginia Woolf's tale of a person that 
changes gender many times over many centuries is interesting and 
suggestive. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MorOaD61KUI Clip: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFbanBfadU

Regarding development work on TW, and without being a reductionist, I'm 
kinda also interested that "feminine" & "masculine" might still mean 
something on average different.

Best Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

TonyM wrote:
>
> I do not recall the word, I heard recently in Star Trek. It means a 
> species who does not only reproduce asexually, but can become either sex 
> according to environmental needs.
>

Vilix'pran's species? 
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Vilix%27pran%27s_species 

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki In The Sky Problems, Please Help!

2018-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I'm not a Mac person, but in the equivalent situation on Android I wouldn't 
bother using TiddlyWiki in the Sky, since it requires an online connection.

Instead I would use dropbox directly and view the file in AndTidWiki. The 
corresponding thing on iOS would be (I understand) to use Dropbox with 
Quine.

Good luck 
-- Mark

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 4:16:36 AM UTC-7, Jake Mansbridge wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> I'm *very* new to TiddlyWiki, but I've managed alright so far with 
> TiddlyDesktop and syncing to/from Dropbox via my computer. 
>
> My problem lies with TiddlyWiki In The Sky – I can't seem to access the 
> dropbox file from an iOS device. I've followed the same route on my iPad or 
> iPhone as I would do on a browser for a Dropbox file (i.e. 
> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/).
> The TiddlyWiki files are present there, but upon trying to open them in an 
> iOS browser, a blank browser screen appears with 'A problem repeatedly 
> occurred on "https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/''.
>
> I've tried accessing it on both Chrome and Safari mobile browsers, to no 
> avail. 
>
> So I'm a little stumped – am I missing a specific plugin or something? Or 
> is this a known issue with TWITS? 
>
> (I'm kind of in need of step-by-step instructions at this point, and some 
> of the help guides get a little confusing as I'm not 100% on the jargon 
> yet!)
>
>
> Help would be greatly appreciated! 
> Cheers!
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

I do not recall the word, I heard recently in Star Trek. It means a species 
who does not only reproduce asexually, but can become either sex according 
to environmental needs.

That's what TiddlyWiki is. 

A Ship Wiki may be feminine, and a mens boxing club wiki masculine (yes I 
know women also box)

:)



On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 9:54:41 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao PMario
>
> How could one disagree with that? Its true. But I'm not sure that is the 
> whole story.
>
> Humans function never without affect (I mean, you are not an abacus) and 
> gendered inflections of meaning are interesting and often in play. Though 
> they are largely implicit in English--rather than explicit in the way they 
> are in languages like Italian. 
>
> So your idea is for all options?: Jack, Jackie and Jackie-Jack?
>
> Just thoughts
> Josiah
>
> PMario wrote:
>>
>> imo __it__ evolves over time and the content defines it. ... OR it is, 
>> what _you_ want to make it. 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: conditional operations

I am building a community website for that :)

It will take time because I need to prepare my tax and find commissions as 
an IT Consultant.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 9:58:08 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Tony!
>  This is great and helpful, worth to put somewhere to be accessible later. 
> In this forum is hard to find and follow stuffs later.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:56:41 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Here is a dump of my draft document, it is in no way finished, but will 
>> give you a feel for what I am trying to document. Please tell me what we 
>> should include.
>>
>> I will try and show if then else while until etc.. in the long run
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> 1. SequenceOne step following anotherWith sequence it commonly stops 
>> when you reach the bottom of a tiddler
>>
>>- 1.1 Left to right, Top then down the wiki text, the first item is 
>>displayed above the next etc... down the page
>>
>> Note new line vs paragraphs
>>
>>- 1.2 Using list and a filter to get a sequence of items displayed or 
>>acted on
>>
>> Using a list for sequence it commonly stops when the members of the list 
>> finish/are exhausted, it then moves to the next line of the current tiddler 
>> until you reach the bottom of a tiddlerThis can be impacted by 
>> "Includes" see below.2. IterationRepeat for each item in a set, ending 
>> when no more items are in the set or some condition is true/false
>>
>>- 2.1 Using the list widget with a filter that has 0 or more members 
>>- 2.2 An iteration can be ordered using sorting
>>- 2.3 There are many ways to re-iterate, and you can re-iterate 
>>Macros, with transclusions and a lot more, most iterations will end with 
>> no 
>>more members in a list or some other condition.
>>
>> 3. SortingChoosing the order in which more than one item is listed
>>
>>- 3.1 Filtered lists permit the addition of the sort[fieldname] 
>>filter operator which can be used to sort the final list
>>
>> Default is title or for tagged items the order in which they appear in 
>> the tags list field!sort[fieldname] will reverse the order
>>
>>- 3.2 Used with iteration to support the order in which the items are 
>>acted on 
>>
>> 4. Selection/Decisionusing some condition to determine whether to 
>> display something or not
>>
>>- 4.1 A list field will list is membership if there are members. 
>>otherwise will not
>>- 4.2 If you need to determine if there are one or more (not Zero 
>>members), or any other number of something
>>
>> You can use the limit[n] filter operator so that limit[1] will display 
>> only once if there is one or more members?Limit[0] works??Use ? starting 
>> line for a different class
>>
>>- 4.3 If you want to test there is no members?
>>
>> The emptyMessage is available on the list widget and emptyValue on the 
>> set widget
>>
>>- 4.4 What if you want to list the non-members
>>
>> Using the ! with the filter operatorsNote default set all regular 
>> tiddlers so perhaps filter based on another condition first
>>
>>- 4.5 The reveal widget allows a section to be displayed according to 
>>a match including comparisons
>>
>> Reveal widgets can also be nested
>>
>>- 4.6 Simple Comparisons
>>- 4.7 Inclusion/exclusion and other selection tests
>>- The do nothing case or filter but exclude
>>- A tiddler but not those it is the prefix of
>>
>> [prefix[tiddlername]suffix[tiddlername]] is both its prefix and its 
>> suffix
>>
>>- 4.8 Selection and decisions can be made based on values that are in 
>>variables, Tiddlers, fields and more
>>
>> so review *Using Values and variables* or *Setting Values and variables*5. 
>> NestingThis is the process where one set of actions occur within another 
>> set of actions, With tiddlywiki nesting can occur for many levels "deep"This 
>> is how Case and Recursion below, amongst other structures are possible.
>>
>>- 5.1 One implicit example of nesting is a Single ListWidget 
>> in a particular 
>>tiddler, it is in fact nesting its result in the existing tiddler
>>- 5.2 In most cases anything you write can be nested within something 
>>else, and as many deep as you choose.
>>
>> However if you nest your current tiddler in the current tiddler you *may* 
>> face infinite recursion (like between two mirrors)See 7.x Recursion for 
>> intentional use of this ability
>>
>>- 5.3 Example Nesting list widgets
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="filter1">
>> Do this for each filter1 case
>><$list filter="filter2">
>>Do this for each filter2 case
>><$list filter="filter3">
>>Do this for each filter3 case
>>   <$list filter="filter4">
>>  Do this for each filter4 case
>>   
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Notes:* 
>>
>>- If the number of

[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Hi Tony!
 This is great and helpful, worth to put somewhere to be accessible later. 
In this forum is hard to find and follow stuffs later.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:56:41 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Here is a dump of my draft document, it is in no way finished, but will 
> give you a feel for what I am trying to document. Please tell me what we 
> should include.
>
> I will try and show if then else while until etc.. in the long run
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> 1. SequenceOne step following anotherWith sequence it commonly stops when 
> you reach the bottom of a tiddler
>
>- 1.1 Left to right, Top then down the wiki text, the first item is 
>displayed above the next etc... down the page
>
> Note new line vs paragraphs
>
>- 1.2 Using list and a filter to get a sequence of items displayed or 
>acted on
>
> Using a list for sequence it commonly stops when the members of the list 
> finish/are exhausted, it then moves to the next line of the current tiddler 
> until you reach the bottom of a tiddlerThis can be impacted by "Includes" 
> see below.2. IterationRepeat for each item in a set, ending when no more 
> items are in the set or some condition is true/false
>
>- 2.1 Using the list widget with a filter that has 0 or more members 
>- 2.2 An iteration can be ordered using sorting
>- 2.3 There are many ways to re-iterate, and you can re-iterate 
>Macros, with transclusions and a lot more, most iterations will end with 
> no 
>more members in a list or some other condition.
>
> 3. SortingChoosing the order in which more than one item is listed
>
>- 3.1 Filtered lists permit the addition of the sort[fieldname] filter 
>operator which can be used to sort the final list
>
> Default is title or for tagged items the order in which they appear in the 
> tags list field!sort[fieldname] will reverse the order
>
>- 3.2 Used with iteration to support the order in which the items are 
>acted on 
>
> 4. Selection/Decisionusing some condition to determine whether to display 
> something or not
>
>- 4.1 A list field will list is membership if there are members. 
>otherwise will not
>- 4.2 If you need to determine if there are one or more (not Zero 
>members), or any other number of something
>
> You can use the limit[n] filter operator so that limit[1] will display 
> only once if there is one or more members?Limit[0] works??Use ? starting 
> line for a different class
>
>- 4.3 If you want to test there is no members?
>
> The emptyMessage is available on the list widget and emptyValue on the set 
> widget
>
>- 4.4 What if you want to list the non-members
>
> Using the ! with the filter operatorsNote default set all regular 
> tiddlers so perhaps filter based on another condition first
>
>- 4.5 The reveal widget allows a section to be displayed according to 
>a match including comparisons
>
> Reveal widgets can also be nested
>
>- 4.6 Simple Comparisons
>- 4.7 Inclusion/exclusion and other selection tests
>- The do nothing case or filter but exclude
>- A tiddler but not those it is the prefix of
>
> [prefix[tiddlername]suffix[tiddlername]] is both its prefix and its suffix
>
>- 4.8 Selection and decisions can be made based on values that are in 
>variables, Tiddlers, fields and more
>
> so review *Using Values and variables* or *Setting Values and variables*5. 
> NestingThis is the process where one set of actions occur within another 
> set of actions, With tiddlywiki nesting can occur for many levels "deep"This 
> is how Case and Recursion below, amongst other structures are possible.
>
>- 5.1 One implicit example of nesting is a Single ListWidget 
> in a particular 
>tiddler, it is in fact nesting its result in the existing tiddler
>- 5.2 In most cases anything you write can be nested within something 
>else, and as many deep as you choose.
>
> However if you nest your current tiddler in the current tiddler you *may* 
> face infinite recursion (like between two mirrors)See 7.x Recursion for 
> intentional use of this ability
>
>- 5.3 Example Nesting list widgets
>
>
> <$list filter="filter1">
> Do this for each filter1 case
><$list filter="filter2">
>Do this for each filter2 case
><$list filter="filter3">
>Do this for each filter3 case
>   <$list filter="filter4">
>  Do this for each filter4 case
>   
>
>
> 
>
> *Notes:* 
>
>- If the number of levels of nesting can vary or is large or unknown 
>using *recursion* may be a better solution.
>- If transclusion or macro are used to *include* additional content 
>these are in effect nested where they are included, and may contain other 
>nesting themselves.
>- Each filter applies to the CurrentTiddler 
>

[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

Ciao PMario

How could one disagree with that? Its true. But I'm not sure that is whole 
story.

Humans function never without affect (I mean, you are not an abacus) and 
gendered inflections of meaning are interesting and often in play. Though 
they are largely implicit in English--rather than explicit in the way they 
are in languages like Italian. 

So your idea is for all options?: Jack, Jackie and Jackie-Jack?

Just thoughts
Josiah

PMario wrote:
>
> imo __it__ evolves over time and the content defines it. ... OR it is, 
> what _you_ want to make it. 
>

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[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Thank you Josiah!
 Yes, Thomas' code is very similar to what I asked.

/Mohammad

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:31:23 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Also Thomas Elmiger who made the "IF A is B macro" 
> https://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#%24%3A%2F_telmiger%2FifAisB 
> might be worth a look.
>
> Jed's "WizardWizard" https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/WizardWizard/ 
> is a very good show of procedural steps with basic branching.
>
> On Monday, 2 July 2018 10:28:02 UTC+2, Ste Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Someone (let's take a guess at Jed or Mat) did a plugin for that... 
>> It's on here somewhere. 
>> Dave might have it in his list. 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-02 Thread PMario

imo __it__ evolves over time and the content defines it. ... OR it is, what 
_you_ want to make it. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: conditional operations

Folks,

Here is a dump of my draft document, it is in no way finished, but will 
give you a feel for what I am trying to document. Please tell me what we 
should include.

I will try and show if then else while until etc.. in the long run

Regards
Tony

1. SequenceOne step following anotherWith sequence it commonly stops when 
you reach the bottom of a tiddler
   
   - 1.1 Left to right, Top then down the wiki text, the first item is 
   displayed above the next etc... down the page

Note new line vs paragraphs
   
   - 1.2 Using list and a filter to get a sequence of items displayed or 
   acted on

Using a list for sequence it commonly stops when the members of the list 
finish/are exhausted, it then moves to the next line of the current tiddler 
until you reach the bottom of a tiddlerThis can be impacted by "Includes" 
see below.2. IterationRepeat for each item in a set, ending when no more 
items are in the set or some condition is true/false
   
   - 2.1 Using the list widget with a filter that has 0 or more members 
   - 2.2 An iteration can be ordered using sorting
   - 2.3 There are many ways to re-iterate, and you can re-iterate Macros, 
   with transclusions and a lot more, most iterations will end with no more 
   members in a list or some other condition.

3. SortingChoosing the order in which more than one item is listed
   
   - 3.1 Filtered lists permit the addition of the sort[fieldname] filter 
   operator which can be used to sort the final list

Default is title or for tagged items the order in which they appear in the 
tags list field!sort[fieldname] will reverse the order
   
   - 3.2 Used with iteration to support the order in which the items are 
   acted on 

4. Selection/Decisionusing some condition to determine whether to display 
something or not
   
   - 4.1 A list field will list is membership if there are members. 
   otherwise will not
   - 4.2 If you need to determine if there are one or more (not Zero 
   members), or any other number of something

You can use the limit[n] filter operator so that limit[1] will display only 
once if there is one or more members?Limit[0] works??Use ? starting line 
for a different class
   
   - 4.3 If you want to test there is no members?

The emptyMessage is available on the list widget and emptyValue on the set 
widget
   
   - 4.4 What if you want to list the non-members

Using the ! with the filter operatorsNote default set all regular tiddlers 
so perhaps filter based on another condition first
   
   - 4.5 The reveal widget allows a section to be displayed according to a 
   match including comparisons

Reveal widgets can also be nested
   
   - 4.6 Simple Comparisons
   - 4.7 Inclusion/exclusion and other selection tests
   - The do nothing case or filter but exclude
   - A tiddler but not those it is the prefix of

[prefix[tiddlername]suffix[tiddlername]] is both its prefix and its suffix
   
   - 4.8 Selection and decisions can be made based on values that are in 
   variables, Tiddlers, fields and more

so review *Using Values and variables* or *Setting Values and variables*5. 
NestingThis is the process where one set of actions occur within another 
set of actions, With tiddlywiki nesting can occur for many levels "deep"This 
is how Case and Recursion below, amongst other structures are possible.
   
   - 5.1 One implicit example of nesting is a Single ListWidget 
    in a particular tiddler, 
   it is in fact nesting its result in the existing tiddler
   - 5.2 In most cases anything you write can be nested within something 
   else, and as many deep as you choose.

However if you nest your current tiddler in the current tiddler you *may* 
face infinite recursion (like between two mirrors)See 7.x Recursion for 
intentional use of this ability
   
   - 5.3 Example Nesting list widgets


<$list filter="filter1">
Do this for each filter1 case
   <$list filter="filter2">
   Do this for each filter2 case
   <$list filter="filter3">
   Do this for each filter3 case
  <$list filter="filter4">
 Do this for each filter4 case
  
   
   


*Notes:* 
   
   - If the number of levels of nesting can vary or is large or unknown 
   using *recursion* may be a better solution.
   - If transclusion or macro are used to *include* additional content 
   these are in effect nested where they are included, and may contain other 
   nesting themselves.
   - Each filter applies to the CurrentTiddler 
    as determined by the 
   previous ListWidget  
   unless a variable=*variablename* is set.
   - Each filter starts with an assumption you are filtering from all 
   tiddlers, so use a variable or currentTiddler value from the previous List 
   widget for logically nested lists.

6. CaseWhen you want something to occur differently for each case or member 
in a set6.1 A

[tw5] Re: conditional operations

TonyM

I think that is a good observation. One where a bit more documentation 
could really help users. One for the list :-)

In a way, Thomas' "IF A is B macro", is quite a good starting point because 
it is de-limited. I do think its conveys part of the issue quite well 
because of that.

Josiah

On Monday, 2 July 2018 13:05:52 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Evan of formulas fame has also provided logical operators you can use but 
> it can be achived with a set of listwidgets and filters with the else 
> handled buy using the same filter with negation using !
>
>

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki In The Sky Problems, Please Help!

2018-07-02 Thread Jake Mansbridge

Hi everyone,

I'm *very* new to TiddlyWiki, but I've managed alright so far with
TiddlyDesktop and syncing to/from Dropbox via my computer.

My problem lies with TiddlyWiki In The Sky – I can't seem to access the
dropbox file from an iOS device. I've followed the same route on my iPad or
iPhone as I would do on a browser for a Dropbox file
(i.e. https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/).
The TiddlyWiki files are present there, but upon trying to open them in an
iOS browser, a blank browser screen appears with 'A problem repeatedly
occurred on "https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/''.

I've tried accessing it on both Chrome and Safari mobile browsers, to no
avail.

So I'm a little stumped – am I missing a specific plugin or something? Or
is this a known issue with TWITS?

(I'm kind of in need of step-by-step instructions at this point, and some
of the help guides get a little confusing as I'm not 100% on the jargon
yet!)

Help would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers!

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[tw5] Query: Is TW Male, Female?

English is largely non-gendered for things (a door is neither male nor 
female); though there are exceptions: Ships are female ("Good luck to all 
who sail in her!")

I often wonder: is TiddlyWiki is male, female, hermaphrodite or trans?

Perhaps Jack the TW cat is Jackie?

I don't think its an entirely mad query. Metaphorical mental models do play 
a part in conceiving what one works with. 

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[tw5] conditional operations

Evan of formulas fame has also provided logical operators you can use but it 
can be achived with a set of listwidgets and filters with the else handled buy 
using the same filter with negation using !

Even using the emptyMessage in list and emptyVale in set widgets helps.

You can nest list widgets in any combination you want. I have half written a 
guide on this, tw equivalents to normal code structures, I can share the draft.

It takes a little to learn the filter equivalent of if tests but once mastered 
they can be more powerful because they are not only logical operators but act 
on sets of titles (which can be litteral values not just tiddler titles).

One difference is tw does not favor simple true false test as much because what 
it offers is designed to respond to tiddlers, tags and fields and is thus much 
richer.

Providing some simpler tests may assist users.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: conditional operations