[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[Birthe C]

Hi Tony,

Jed did some work with this 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ukwhjrS9CD4/BLwYCJ7cDwAJ

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

[S. S.]

This is probably an accurate way of explaining the limitations:

WikiText can be used as an *attribute* *value* of Widgets, but neither 
Widgets nor WikiText can be used as a *parameter* *value* of a WikiText 
macro.

... but it would be almost impossible for a beginner to understand. That is 
something to be avoided.

I don't know how to phrase it in a simpler way.

Maybe just a more general warning of some sort - without being too specific 
- and then a link to a NEW (non-beginner) tiddler that explains it with 
some examples.

So I still need help with how to phrase that General Warning.

Thanks

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 1:26:04 AM UTC+7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> S.S.
>
> I believe you are correct.
>
> Wikitext contains widgets anytime a tiddler has a widget in it, so that 
> part isn't true.
>
> I would make a slight modification to what you said:
>
> WikiText can be used as an *attribute* *value* of Widgets, but neither 
> Widgets nor wikitext can not be used as a *parameter* *value* of a 
> WikiText macro.
>
> That is unless you use the macrocall widget, which is cheating because it 
> is a widget.
>
> I think that is as accurate as I can make it without going into things 
> like how macros and widgets are evaluated and I think that falls outside 
> the scope of what you are making.
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tony,

Are you on a data plan or WiFi? When you normally open tiddlywiki.com/empty 
in your browser, how long does it take?

I'm wondering if some combination of a data plan and/or your remoteness 
from the main TW site may slow things down enough that the items don't 
immediately appear on your list. Unfortunately, if you navigated away from 
Q in the mean time, then it may not know how to add the download to the 
main list. I might have to prioritized persistence of the download manager.

empty-20190218014-17-29.html and empty-20190218014-17-18.html would have 
been the items downloaded. When you view them in your browser, are they OK?

TIDDLYWIKISTUB7383952824269779 is a stub file typically created when you 
navigated via the System explorer. I don't think it's the empty file unless 
it was created when you navigated with the system explorer. In general, you 
shouldn't be seeing the stub file. The stub files are temporary and get 
erased when the app reboots. Too hard to diagnose at a distance ;-(

Just to confirm, you say the two empties downloaded to your *internal* 
download directory? Do you have a SD card, and is it formatted as external 
or internal memory (Starting 7 (?) you have to tell Android whether you 
want your card to be formatted as though internal space -- giving more 
space for apps -- or as external space -- giving more space for shared 
MP3s, photos, etc.).

I might be able to manage swipe left to leave some day, but swiping from 
the list into the browser would be much more challenging.

Thanks!
-- Mark


On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Reviewing now quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 8.0.0
>
> Selecting Download tesat had no feedback so I soon had 2 downloading in 
> the background. Canceled one in the download manager, it is slow (but thats 
> ok).
>
> Found in the internal memory Download TW-files two empty files
> empty-20190218014-17-29.html
> empty-20190218014-17-18.html
>
> of 2.17MB in size
>
> Oddly I went to use back to close quinoid and I had to press three times 
> before it exited.
>
>
>- No change to the wiki list, + and browsed to Internal > Downloads 
>and TW-Files and opened one of the empty files, 
>- Tap to open from list opens my two existing items and a blank 
>screen, 
>- swipe left to open one of my existing wikis, has a 1-3sec display or 
>white, before it displays (unlike previously) - I think this is an 
> artifact 
>of the mobile view, material theme, sidebar open.
>- Empty wiki not appearing after time, but is now in list as 
>TIDDLYWIKISTUB738395282426977923.html
>- New download test whilst staying on wiki list screen (will report 
>later)
>- Will try geo-location soon
>
>
> *Question*
>
> Is there any reason we can't swipe left back to the Quinoid list, and 
> arguably swipe right to load/(re)view the open wikis? It may be a little 
> more intuitive.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, 18 February 2019 13:46:00 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
>> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System 
>> Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated 
>> though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download 
>> option, that is meant to download an empty TW from tiddlywiki.com. This 
>> is in preparation for offering users the chance to quickly load up on 
>> well-known and crafted TW files.
>>
>> It's testing on the download functionality that interests me. I'm only 
>> able to test through emulators at the moment, and they give me inconsistent 
>> information on multiple levels. One emulator works great. Another gives the 
>> "OK", but then says there's something wrong with the file system, and then 
>> chooses to put the file somewhere else and with a nonsensical name.
>>
>> What I'm trying to do is to save to a sub-directory of the user's *external 
>> *download directory. This way the user can be in charge of deleting and 
>> cleaning up. If people are willing to test, they should have an android 
>> with an external card, preferably with an existing "Download" directory. 
>> After running the download menu option, the new item should appear in your 
>> browse list. Unfortunately, at least on one emulator, it's possible that it 
>> will instead write to the download directory of the internal card, using a 
>> name that won't even look like a standard html file name. I don't know if 
>> this is for real, or just an anomaly of the emulator. 
>>
>> If you have a slow connection and have to log out of quinoid before the 
>> download is complete, then it's possible that the download will complete 
>> later but not appear in your list. In my tests, with WiFi, this wasn't a 
>> problem as the download was almost instantaneous. There's a bunch more 
>> coding I would have to do to prevent the non-listed download situation. But 
>> 

[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[TonyM]

Mark,

Reviewing now quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 8.0.0

Selecting Download tesat had no feedback so I soon had 2 downloading in the 
background. Canceled one in the download manager, it is slow (but thats ok).

Found in the internal memory Download TW-files two empty files
empty-20190218014-17-29.html
empty-20190218014-17-18.html

of 2.17MB in size

Oddly I went to use back to close quinoid and I had to press three times 
before it exited.


   - No change to the wiki list, + and browsed to Internal > Downloads and 
   TW-Files and opened one of the empty files, 
   - Tap to open from list opens my two existing items and a blank screen, 
   - swipe left to open one of my existing wikis, has a 1-3sec display or 
   white, before it displays (unlike previously) - I think this is an artifact 
   of the mobile view, material theme, sidebar open.
   - Empty wiki not appearing after time, but is now in list as 
   TIDDLYWIKISTUB738395282426977923.html
   - New download test whilst staying on wiki list screen (will report 
   later)
   - Will try geo-location soon


*Question*

Is there any reason we can't swipe left back to the Quinoid list, and 
arguably swipe right to load/(re)view the open wikis? It may be a little 
more intuitive.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, 18 February 2019 13:46:00 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System 
> Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated 
> though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download 
> option, that is meant to download an empty TW from tiddlywiki.com. This 
> is in preparation for offering users the chance to quickly load up on 
> well-known and crafted TW files.
>
> It's testing on the download functionality that interests me. I'm only 
> able to test through emulators at the moment, and they give me inconsistent 
> information on multiple levels. One emulator works great. Another gives the 
> "OK", but then says there's something wrong with the file system, and then 
> chooses to put the file somewhere else and with a nonsensical name.
>
> What I'm trying to do is to save to a sub-directory of the user's *external 
> *download directory. This way the user can be in charge of deleting and 
> cleaning up. If people are willing to test, they should have an android 
> with an external card, preferably with an existing "Download" directory. 
> After running the download menu option, the new item should appear in your 
> browse list. Unfortunately, at least on one emulator, it's possible that it 
> will instead write to the download directory of the internal card, using a 
> name that won't even look like a standard html file name. I don't know if 
> this is for real, or just an anomaly of the emulator. 
>
> If you have a slow connection and have to log out of quinoid before the 
> download is complete, then it's possible that the download will complete 
> later but not appear in your list. In my tests, with WiFi, this wasn't a 
> problem as the download was almost instantaneous. There's a bunch more 
> coding I would have to do to prevent the non-listed download situation. But 
> first I want to know how well the downloading works at all. It's another 
> question whether I should prevent downloads except when connected to WiFi. 
> Possibly a user configuration.
>
> @Tony  -- I added some additional geo permissions to the v0.0.6 update. 
> Curious if that made your geo-json file work any better. These additional 
> permissions may be why TT was getting additional quizzing by the 
> PlayProtect system.
>
> Thanks everyone -- be sure to backup and take precautions if you try the 
> release!
>
> -- Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.6alpha
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, but 
there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System 
Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated 
though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download 
option, that is meant to download an empty TW from tiddlywiki.com. This is 
in preparation for offering users the chance to quickly load up on 
well-known and crafted TW files.

It's testing on the download functionality that interests me. I'm only able 
to test through emulators at the moment, and they give me inconsistent 
information on multiple levels. One emulator works great. Another gives the 
"OK", but then says there's something wrong with the file system, and then 
chooses to put the file somewhere else and with a nonsensical name.

What I'm trying to do is to save to a sub-directory of the user's *external 
*download directory. This way the user can be in charge of deleting and 
cleaning up. If people are willing to test, they should have an android 
with an external card, preferably with an existing "Download" directory. 
After running the download menu option, the new item should appear in your 
browse list. Unfortunately, at least on one emulator, it's possible that it 
will instead write to the download directory of the internal card, using a 
name that won't even look like a standard html file name. I don't know if 
this is for real, or just an anomaly of the emulator. 

If you have a slow connection and have to log out of quinoid before the 
download is complete, then it's possible that the download will complete 
later but not appear in your list. In my tests, with WiFi, this wasn't a 
problem as the download was almost instantaneous. There's a bunch more 
coding I would have to do to prevent the non-listed download situation. But 
first I want to know how well the downloading works at all. It's another 
question whether I should prevent downloads except when connected to WiFi. 
Possibly a user configuration.

@Tony  -- I added some additional geo permissions to the v0.0.6 update. 
Curious if that made your geo-json file work any better. These additional 
permissions may be why TT was getting additional quizzing by the 
PlayProtect system.

Thanks everyone -- be sure to backup and take precautions if you try the 
release!

-- Mark






https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.6alpha


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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

It is quite complex and there are a lot of options for comment systems, of 
interest to me so far in my research is the 
*https://intensedebate.com/features* which is part of 
https://automattic.com/ it has lots of integrations with other platforms, 
twitter, WordPress, Joomla, tumblr, blogger and more, and seems truly open 
source. I can't yet find if there are any hosting costs, but it appears not.

This may be a great candidate for tiddlywiki inclusion. I have started 
looking at this and have attached a tiddler that is documenting the 
install. Primarily it is javascript for the comments. Looks like it should 
be easy, but at present I do not know how to integrate it with tiddlywiki.


RegardsTony


On Sunday, 17 February 2019 19:49:53 UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> I'm not sure about ads: It seems like they only appear when I enable them 
> (even though I use the free version).
>
> [image: vivaldi_2019-02-17_09-42-31.png]
>
>
> For Disqus alternatives, see 
>
>
>- https://github.com/search?o=desc=disqus=stars=Repositories
>- https://alternativeto.net/software/disqus/
>- https://www.g2crowd.com/categories/commenting-systems
>
> If you find something that may be of interest to many people because it's 
> good to use and easy to install, then write to me and I try to create a 
> plugin for it.
>

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

I say it's good. And thanks for the offer, I will look at microblogs right 
away.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:42:20 UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> Please look at it again and if everyone says it is good, I'll finalize the 
> plugin: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

[Joshua Fontany]

And I found the Bob config tab & related docs. Cool, no worries on that.

It would be great to resolve the tiddlyweb plugin errors, as I would like 
to sync my local Bob wiki folder to github, but can't be sure others 
pulling it are using Bob.

Best,
Joshua Fontany

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 2:21:54 PM UTC-8, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Hmmm. I have also run into the "syncer-browser-tiddlyweb" errors.
>
> I also noted that at some point I stopped being able to save local 
> single-file copies of the wiki by clicking normal checkmark/save button.
>
> But if I don't have `tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb` in my tiddlywiki.info file, I 
> can't just use node to --build an index.html...
>
> So something here isn't working right. I just don't know if I made a 
> mistake with setup or ???
>
> Best,
>
> Joshua Fontany
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 9:14:25 PM UTC-8, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>>
>> Jed, this is excellent work. I just realized that the TW releases had 
>> broken my JsonMangler code in the latest version. I had been developing on 
>> tiddlyserver (& it doesn't like the latest) & needed to refactor.
>>
>> Just got up and running with Bob, and the SLACK it has given me! ( ; ) ) 
>> Bravo. Bravo.
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

[Jed Carty]

The tiddlyweb error is probably because there is a .tid version of the 
tiddlyweb plugin in the tiddlers folder. It happens sometimes and I haven't 
gotten around to publishing the changes I made to keep that from being a 
problem.

The save button no longer saves a single file copy because people said it 
was confusing that they could save a single file copy that way that wasn't 
the same as the copy served by Bob. If you want a single file copy you can 
go to the control panel and under the Bob Settings tab there is a 'Download 
Single File Version' button, that downloads a single file version with the 
Bob plugins stripped out because they don't do anything for a singe file 
wiki.

If you want to customise how the download works there is documentation for 
it in the Bob Documentation tab, look at the ActionDownloadWiki part.

The problem about not being able to build a wiki without the tiddlyweb 
plugin is strange. The easiest thing to check is that there may be a comma 
error in the tiddlywiki.info file, next make sure that in the 
tiddlywiki.info file under the build key 'index' is listed. Past that I 
don't know, I am not very familiar with that part of the build process.

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[tw5] Removing chars from tiddler title: issue with tiddler overwritting

[Mohammad]

The below code is developed to remove n characters from the beginning of a 
tiddler title.

Test only on https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/


*Title: macro/remchars*
*Tag: $:/tags/Macro*
\define remove-from-begining-tiltle-bulk(myfilter, n:"0")
<$list filter="[<__n__>] -0" variable=null>
<$list filter=<<__myfilter__>> variable="item">
<$list filter="""[split[]rest[$n$]join[]]""" variable="newTitle">
<$list filter="[]  -[has[title]] -[[]]" variable="ignore">
  <$action-setfield  $tiddler=<> title=<> />
  <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
  



\end


Assume you have three  tiddlers like below, both tagged with xx

a1
b1
cd


Then call the macro as below

Test
<$button> Do it
<>



 
The above code should detect that removing first char will overwrite a1, b1 and 
so as four list widget in the code (line 5)
is responsible to prevent this!! seems it *FAILS *to do the job!
It overwrites a1 and b1 and produces tiddler 1.

What is going wrong here?


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

[Joshua Fontany]

Hmmm. I have also run into the "syncer-browser-tiddlyweb" errors.

I also noted that at some point I stopped being able to save local 
single-file copies of the wiki by clicking normal checkmark/save button.

But if I don't have `tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb` in my tiddlywiki.info file, I 
can't just use node to --build an index.html...

So something here isn't working right. I just don't know if I made a 
mistake with setup or ???

Best,

Joshua Fontany



On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 9:14:25 PM UTC-8, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Jed, this is excellent work. I just realized that the TW releases had 
> broken my JsonMangler code in the latest version. I had been developing on 
> tiddlyserver (& it doesn't like the latest) & needed to refactor.
>
> Just got up and running with Bob, and the SLACK it has given me! ( ; ) ) 
> Bravo. Bravo.
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>

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[tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[Jed Carty]

As an explanation of what is going on (node the added button, this doesn't do 
anything with the button):


<$button>

Add tags

<$list filter=<>>
<$fieldmangler>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<__newTag__>> />






The list widget makes a list, one way to think about it is as iterating over a 
loop, but if you are familiar with some programming it is more accurately list 
comprehension similar to python (I think also erlang and haskell, it has been a 
while. Many other languages probably use the same concept).


So a possibly way too detailed description of the list widget:


The filter creates a list of titles

The template between the opening and closing tags for the $list widget is 
applied to each title returned by the filter

The results are output in the same order as the titles in the list


The $fieldmangler widget is magic, it is mostly left over from a previous 
version of how we thought tiddlywiki was going to work. Mostly it lets you add 
tags without overwriting the tags field. This is the only time when it is 
required or that there isn't a simpler way to do it. The magic is that it lets 
you edit fields, but that was before the action widgets became the main tool 
for changing tiddlers so it is less useful now.


The $action-sendmessage widget is a way that the older message-based changes to 
the wiki are used with the newer action widgets. It was a more conceptually 
complex system, I suggest that you just accept the magic for now and come back 
to that part later. Just treat the combination of $fieldmangler and 
$action-setfield widgets in this context like an action widget that lets you 
add a tag to a tiddler.


Then, if you wrap that whole thing in a button, the result is a button that 
activates a list of action widgets, each action widget adds a tag to one 
tiddler.


Hopefully that is understandable and not too rambling.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[Brian Theado]

Stefano,

I think the action-listops widget (
https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionListopsWidget) will help you. It can be used
to manipulate any tiddler field which is used as a list. The tags field is
used as a list so it should be able to help.

For performing the operation on multiple tiddlers, you would need to put
the action-listops inside a list widget (since it only operates on a single
tiddler).

I found the documentation a little confusing. Maybe this will help you:

   - Use the $filter attribute to replace the field contents with the
   result of $filter
   - Use the $subfilter attribute to transform the current field contents
   - Use the $tags attribute as shorthand for $subfilter + $field=tags

Here is a real world example using this widget:
https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist/blob/master/src/plugins/btheado/ftlist/action-macros.tid

I've seen some responses recommending the use of tm-add-tag widget message.
I'm not really sure in what cases tm-add-tag is better than action-listops
or vice versa.

Brian

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 4:40 PM stefano franchi 
wrote:

> Hi Lazlo,
>
> I was indeed looking at the Commander code, but I am still such a newbie
> with TW that I don't know how to use it. In particular, this bit seems to
> be all I need:
>
> \define add-new-tag-bulk(newTag)
> <$list filter={{$:/temp/commander}}>
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<__newTag__>> />
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Not completely sure how it works yet, but working on it...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> S.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 3:22 PM bimlas  wrote:
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>> Stefano,
>>
>> TW-Commander worth a try as well: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander
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Re: [tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[Mohammad]

Hi Stefano,
 This is Mohammad the Commander author!

Here is for you, a macro to add many tags you like to a list of tiddlers as 
batch operation. 




\define add-new-tag-bulk(filter, newTags)
<$list filter="$filter$" >
<$list filter="[enlist<__newTags__>]" variable="itemTag">
<$fieldmangler>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<> />


\end




To test, create a tiddler in Tiddlywiki.com
name it as you like and tagged it as $:/tags/Macro

In another tiddler test it as below

<$button> do
<$macrocall $name="add-new-tag-bulk"
filter="[tag[About]]"
newTags="bb cc dd [[mytag with space]]"

/>


This changes the tags of all tiddlers tagged with About to 
bb, cc, dd and "tag with space".

Hopefully these features will be available in Commander.


Cheers
Mohammad


On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 1:10:28 AM UTC+3:30, stefano franchi wrote:
>
> Hi Lazlo,
>
> I was indeed looking at the Commander code, but I am still such a newbie 
> with TW that I don't know how to use it. In particular, this bit seems to 
> be all I need:
>
> \define add-new-tag-bulk(newTag)
> <$list filter={{$:/temp/commander}}>
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<__newTag__>> />
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Not completely sure how it works yet, but working on it...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> S.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 3:22 PM bimlas > 
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>>
>> TW-Commander worth a try as well: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander
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Re: [tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[stefano franchi]

Hi Lazlo,

I was indeed looking at the Commander code, but I am still such a newbie
with TW that I don't know how to use it. In particular, this bit seems to
be all I need:

\define add-new-tag-bulk(newTag)
<$list filter={{$:/temp/commander}}>
<$fieldmangler>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<__newTag__>> />


\end

Not completely sure how it works yet, but working on it...


Cheers,

S.


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[tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[bimlas]

Stefano,

TW-Commander worth a try as well: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander

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Re: [tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

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On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 2:18 PM Mat  wrote:

> Hi Stefano. BatchManipulator 
> was created for batch ops like this.
>
>
Thanks Mat, that looks like a great tool. I am already playing with it. I
would also like to understand how to do it in TW code, though, as I am
trying to learn the ropes of TW. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to show me
how it's done?

Cheers,

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[tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[Mat]

Hi Stefano. BatchManipulator  was 
created for batch ops like this. 

<:-)

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[tw5] Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

[stefano franchi]

How can I select a list of tiddler with a filter and then set their tags to
some array of my choice?

I thought I could use the ActionSetFiled widget like:
<$ActionSetField $filter="MY_FILTER"  tags="NewTag1 [[Another New Tag]]" />

but I discovered the $ActionSetField does not have an $filter option. How
do I loop over the results of a filter?


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[tw5] Re: Days operator offset by 1 day in timezones west of GMT

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Are we still talking about rolling our own dates?

I think 12 would work almost everywhere (there might be some fringe cases).
 
Yes a single minute can make a difference for bills, taxes, assignments. 
Which is why the deadline time is often at midnight, so there's a great 
deal of overlap with actual waking hours. What annoys me is a certain 
cloud-based service that resets subscriptions per a different timezone, 
even though I'm in the same timezone as the corporate office. Apparently 
wherever the server is located becomes the time standard.

-- Mark


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> Mark,
>
> I wonder if it makes sence setting a date only actualy to midday, 
> mmdd1200
>
> This possibly can be done within the date format. If its 00:04 do we realy 
> think 5 mins ago was a day ago when a day implies 24 hours?
>
> Regards
> Tony
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Re: [tw5] Is it possible to load and save tiddlers from subfolders?

[talha131]

Thank you Jeremy for quick response and for having this feature in TW. I 
looked closely and it is working perfectly. 

I am sorry for reporting false positive.
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic Tables macro - turning table headers into links?

[Jed Carty]

I don't know why I didn't make them links before, or at least add that as 
an option. I think that I was trying to make the usage as simple as 
possible and had a time when I didn't want the titles to be links in the 
table.

Those are one of the many things I need to update to use some of the newer 
features in more recent tiddlywiki versions.

The change you want is pretty simple to make, I will try see about updating 
these now because I am having no success focusing on anything else today.

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Re: [tw5] Tinka and TW 5.1.19+ Issue

[Mohammad]

Hi Andreas,

I tested the Tinka 0.4 with Tiddlywiki 5.1.21pre and it works like 
charm. Thank you Andreas.


--Mohammad 



On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:48:32 PM UTC+3:30, Andreas Hahn wrote:
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> Dear Mohammad, 
>
> I'm currently debating whether or not its even worth fixing it, since 
> the whole issue seems to be caused by a bug in TW itself, which is 
> already fixed for the upcoming 5.1.20 (see [1]). So just waiting means 
> that things will repair themselves. There is a way to create a 
> workaround for older versions, but it would be unfortunate to have that 
> be in widespread use. 
>
> Did anyone run into any issues in the 5.1.20 prerelease? 
>
> /Andreas 
>
>
> [1] 
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/95dbdff08a788673f892ce23468c68fbb63a1cc3#diff-8cd38385e5ecdcb70371acfa849ab3e8
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Noted

Thanks!

Josiah

On Sunday, 17 February 2019 16:02:57 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
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> Hello Josiah,
>
>  I am working on Commander and hopefully will have a *release-candidate* 
> by next week.
>
> Regarding the sort! I did not experience like your results but 
> in search box when you type  [tag[xx]] you can do as below
>
> [tag[xx]] +[sortan[]]
>
> or even
> [tag[xx]] +[!sortan[]]
>
>
>
> So, I intentionally do not sort the result.
>
> Cheers 
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[Mohammad]

Hello Josiah,

 I am working on Commander and hopefully will have a *release-candidate* by 
next week.

Regarding the sort! I did not experience like your results but 
in search box when you type  [tag[xx]] you can do as below

[tag[xx]] +[sortan[]]

or even
[tag[xx]] +[!sortan[]]



So, I intentionally do not sort the result.

Cheers 
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

I'm still looking at Commander. Great work!

A comment on default SORT ORDER of the "Items Found" ...

[image: Capture.PNG]


IF you, say, delete something and then re-create it the current list order 
gives the kind of result above, that is not intuitive 

Would the default sort order better be "sortan" so that order of naming 
comes first?

Just thoughts
Josiah



Mohammad wrote:
>
> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
> Status: beta (idea)
>
> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
> *
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao bimlas 

I think its worth mentioning there are TWO free versions of Disqus.

The Basic and Plus Plan (if you low volume and don't carry other ads). 

They differ in how they are configured. Bit more info from here: 
https://disqus.com/pricing/

Disqus is very well integrated in your wiki example.

IMO, for people who need to communicate its good & easy! 

Great job you did IMO!

Best wishes
Josiah

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> I'm not sure about ads: It seems like they only appear when I enable them 
> (even though I use the free version).
>
> [image: vivaldi_2019-02-17_09-42-31.png]
>
>
> For Disqus alternatives, see 
>
>
>- https://github.com/search?o=desc=disqus=stars=Repositories
>- https://alternativeto.net/software/disqus/
>- https://www.g2crowd.com/categories/commenting-systems
>
> If you find something that may be of interest to many people because it's 
> good to use and easy to install, then write to me and I try to create a 
> plugin for it.
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Re: [tw5] Tinka and TW 5.1.19+ Issue

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Andreas

I don't think to give energy to a workaround when the .20 pre-release is 
there already that appears to solve the issue in .19 is worth the effort.

All that is needed, I think, is users know. So announcement about that 
might be worth it?

My two cents
Best wishes
Josiah 

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Re: [tw5] Tinka and TW 5.1.19+ Issue

[Mohammad]

Hi Andreas,
 I will make some experiment with TW 5.1.20pre and will let you know the 
results.

Cheers
Mohammad



On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:48:32 PM UTC+3:30, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
> Dear Mohammad, 
>
> I'm currently debating whether or not its even worth fixing it, since 
> the whole issue seems to be caused by a bug in TW itself, which is 
> already fixed for the upcoming 5.1.20 (see [1]). So just waiting means 
> that things will repair themselves. There is a way to create a 
> workaround for older versions, but it would be unfortunate to have that 
> be in widespread use. 
>
> Did anyone run into any issues in the 5.1.20 prerelease? 
>
> /Andreas 
>
>
> [1] 
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/95dbdff08a788673f892ce23468c68fbb63a1cc3#diff-8cd38385e5ecdcb70371acfa849ab3e8
>  
>
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Re: [tw5] Tinka and TW 5.1.19+ Issue

['Andreas Hahn' via TiddlyWiki]

Dear Mohammad,

I'm currently debating whether or not its even worth fixing it, since 
the whole issue seems to be caused by a bug in TW itself, which is 
already fixed for the upcoming 5.1.20 (see [1]). So just waiting means 
that things will repair themselves. There is a way to create a 
workaround for older versions, but it would be unfortunate to have that 
be in widespread use.


Did anyone run into any issues in the 5.1.20 prerelease?

/Andreas


[1] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/95dbdff08a788673f892ce23468c68fbb63a1cc3#diff-8cd38385e5ecdcb70371acfa849ab3e8


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Re: [tw5] Tinka and TW 5.1.19+ Issue

[Mohammad]

Many thanks Hahn,
 Please let us know if you need help for testing!

Best
Mohammad

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 3:12:38 AM UTC+3:30, Andreas Hahn wrote:
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> Hi, 
>
> thank you for posting this and looking into it, I'll have a look at it 
> soon and see if I can come up with a solution to get it working properly 
> and future-poof it for the 5.1.20 release. 
>
> /Andreas 
>
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Re: [tw5] Is it possible to load and save tiddlers from subfolders?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Talha

> On 17 Feb 2019, at 10:50, talha131  wrote:
> 
> I am using TW from nodejs. I run this command to serve TW via http.
> 
> tiddlywiki tw-scripts-demo --listen port=8081
> Currently I have around 600 individual .tid files inside my tiddlers/ folder. 
> To improve organization of tiddlers, I want to place related tiddlers inside 
> folders. Say all tiddlers on C++ go into Cpp folder and all tiddlers on 
> Python go into Python folder.
> 
> But I observe that tiddlywiki does not load tiddlers from the subfolder.
> 
That's strange, it is supposed to work. Here's an example from the TW5 repo 
where the tiddlers folder is organised into subfolders:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers

Best wishes

Jeremy


> How do I make tiddlywiki load tiddlers from the subfolders and save them back?
> 
> Organizing tiddlers into subfolders is helpful if I want to use an external 
> tool to edit my tiddlers. For example, it would be easier to find a tiddler 
> on Github and edit it there if they are organized into folders.
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[tw5] Is it possible to load and save tiddlers from subfolders?

[talha131]

I am using TW from nodejs. I run this command to serve TW via http.

tiddlywiki tw-scripts-demo --listen port=8081

Currently I have around 600 individual .tid files inside my tiddlers/ 
folder. To improve organization of tiddlers, I want to place related 
tiddlers inside folders. Say all tiddlers on C++ go into Cpp folder and all 
tiddlers on Python go into Python folder.

But I observe that tiddlywiki does not load tiddlers from the subfolder.

How do I make tiddlywiki load tiddlers from the subfolders and save them 
back?

Organizing tiddlers into subfolders is helpful if I want to use an external 
tool to edit my tiddlers. For example, it would be easier to find a tiddler 
on Github and edit it there if they are organized into folders.
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[bimlas]

Please look at it again and if everyone says it is good, I'll finalize the 
plugin: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/

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[tw5] Re: Remove few characters from title

[Mohammad]

Mal,
 Many thanks for the hint!

--Mohammad


On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 12:02:03 PM UTC+3:30, Mal wrote:
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> Mohammad,
>
> Just keep in mind that split and join are new operators being introduced 
> in 5.1.20 and I don't know if their behaviour is fully locked in yet.
>
> Mal
>
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[bimlas]

I'm not sure about ads: It seems like they only appear when I enable them 
(even though I use the free version).

[image: vivaldi_2019-02-17_09-42-31.png]


For Disqus alternatives, see 


   - https://github.com/search?o=desc=disqus=stars=Repositories
   - https://alternativeto.net/software/disqus/
   - https://www.g2crowd.com/categories/commenting-systems
   
If you find something that may be of interest to many people because it's 
good to use and easy to install, then write to me and I try to create a 
plugin for it.

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[tw5] Re: Way to filter edited shadow tiddlers?

[barrowgloom]

Instead of making my own tiddler for such, I link to (or copy the code of) 
the Number of overridden shadow tiddlers: in ControlPanel/Basic tab (if 
you're putting into another tiddler). Link is 
$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Info (system tiddler don't edit)
but I couldn't find alink to the exact line like other entries in Control 
Panel have and I can't rmember if I was able to transclude just that line.  
It has a magnifying glass/search icon that brings up Advanced Search set to 
the filter Jeremy mentioned. 

I don't know if that would work for what you're doing though.


On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 11:18:14 AM UTC-5, Michael Gentry wrote:
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> See subject; I'm trying to figure out a way to filter for only those 
> shadow tiddlers that have been changed/replaced from the system default. Is 
> there a way to do that?

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[tw5] Re: Remove few characters from title

[Mal]

Mohammad,

Just keep in mind that split and join are new operators being introduced in 
5.1.20 and I don't know if their behaviour is fully locked in yet.

Mal

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[tw5] Re: Remove few characters from title

[Mohammad]

Mal,
 Thank you! It works.
I gonna use it in Commander for title operation.

Best
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki on SharePoint - Real world Application

[barrowgloom]

Congratz.  The challenge looks daunting but you got it all laid out which 
is a very good start.  Planning is essential.  Serial edditing is the way 
to go IMO with collaborate work for user s' sanity.

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