[tw5] Re: Query -- Are we neglecting "Restore" from default "Download Saves"?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

TonyM wrote:
>
> I have identified a way to make the sentenial batch very efficient and 
> potentially configureless. 
>
 

> This is leading us down an interesting path which seems to be getting 
> smoother as the idea matures.
>
> What I can bring to this is my history as a batchfile guru many years ago, 
> and some tricks I have up my sleeves.
>

Ciao TonyM

In trying to think through what would be useful for my use case I wrote a 
crude batch file that launches Mark's PS1 script ...

You will be able to inderstand it. It *won't generalise* as is as the *settings 
are currently hard coded* (but you can modify them at the start of the file 
if you want to test what it does).

---

After experimentation I determined that for the "Restore" method (I 
provisionally named "Nine-Lives" following a suggestion from Mark) I'd 
optimally want *on startup*...

   1 -- to see a listing of my wiki(s);

   2 -- to see a listing of files in the "downloads" folder (all .html & 
.htm)

   3 -- a way to alter the settings interactively (done crudely at the 
moment by opening the PS1 script in a text editor)

I thought you'd be interested. This is NOT meant to be anything but a set 
of rough ideas. 

I'm not sure that having a batch file in addition to a Powershell script is 
ideal. But its all I'm capable of. I think a single PS script would be 
best. Maybe with at BAT merely to ease launching it?

It invokes a very slightly modified version of Mark's PS1 script (which I 
will post seperately). The BAT & PS1 go in the same directory, which can be 
anywhere.

Take a look ... any thoughts?

@echo off && color 0e && mode con:cols=85 && setlocal

:SETTINGS
  set "wikiDir=C:\bag\tw5\tws\"
  set "dldsDir=C:\Users\Josiah\Downloads\"

  set "scriptVer=NINE-LIVES v0.1"
  set "ps1Script=tw_nine-lives_v01.ps1"
  set "startDelay=20"
  set "ps1Editor=notepad.exe"

:TITLE-WINDOW
  title %scriptVer% 

:MENU
  echo:
  echo   ++
  echo%scriptVer% - Start Menu
  echo   ++
  echo   ^| A - Auto-Monitor   ^|
  echo   ^| R - Restore ^& Quit ^|
  echo   ^| T - TiddlyWiki ^|
  echo   ^| D - Downloads (HTML/HTM)   ^|
  echo   ^| E - Edit PowerShell Script ^|
  echo   ^| Q - Quit   ^|
  echo   ++
  echo Auto-Monitor in %startDelay% seconds 
  choice /c:ARTDEQ /d:A /t:%startDelay% /n /m "?   Key: "
if %errorlevel% equ 1 cls && echo: && goto RESTORE-MONITOR
if %errorlevel% equ 2 cls && echo: && goto RESTORE-ONCE 
if %errorlevel% equ 3 cls && echo: && goto LIST-WIKI
if %errorlevel% equ 4 cls && echo: && goto LIST-DOWNLOADS
if %errorlevel% equ 5 echo: && goto EDIT-PS1-SCRIPT
if %errorlevel% equ 6 endlocal && exit

:LIST-WIKI
  echo   ^| WIKI FILES in "%wikiDir%"
  echo:
  dir /a /b /s /o:gn /t:w %wikiDir%*??.htm? 
  echo:
  echo   ^| EDIT SCRIPT "%ps1Script%"
  choice /c:YN /d:N /t:30 /n /m "?   Key: Y/N" 
if %errorlevel% equ 1 echo: && goto EDIT-PS1-SCRIPT
if %errorlevel% equ 2 cls && goto MENU

:LIST-DOWNLOADS
  echo   ^| HTML ^& HTM FILES in "%dldsDir%"
  echo:
  dir /a /b /s /o:gn /t:w %dldsDir%*??.htm? 
  echo:
  echo   ^| EDIT SCRIPT "%ps1Script%"
  choice /c:YN /d:N /t:30 /n /m "?   Key: Y/N" 
if %errorlevel% equ 1 echo: && goto EDIT-PS1-SCRIPT
if %errorlevel% equ 2 cls && goto MENU

:EDIT-PS1-SCRIPT
  "%ps1Editor%" "%ps1Script%"
  cls && goto MENU

:RESTORE-ONCE
  :: NOT FINISHED
  :: The PS1 script needs to be in same directory as this batch file
  :: The script contains its own settings
  :: Need to pass parameter to run-once
  :: powershell.exe -file "%ps1Script%" -mode="run-once"

:RESTORE-MONITOR
  :: The PS1 script needs to be in same directory as this batch file
  :: The script contains its own settings
  powershell.exe -file "%ps1Script%"


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[tw5] Re: DropHere tool

[TonyM]

FYI

My Chrome browser sees this tid file as a threat. Fire Fox was fin about 
it, But I have downloaded tid files before in firefox.

Thanks for sharing this by the way. It provides a good example on which to 
build, perhaps something like this should be added to the documentation.

I feel the button is too small so try this as an alternate

<$droppable actions=<>>

  Drop Here
 




Regards
Tony

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 2:48:38 AM UTC+10, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> Maybe this is obvious to most but I figured that I would share for those 
> that want a simple example of the droppable widget borrowing heavily from 
> the examples found in the main TiddlyWiki homepage:
>
> *Usage:* This a small extension of the "New Here" functionality by adding 
> a droppable area in a tiddler to tag the dropped tiddler with a tag of the 
> tiddler containing this area.
>
> This will work to apply the tag to multiple tiddlers by dragging "tag 
> pills" onto the area.
>
>
> *Limitations:* This currently only works with tiddlers that are already 
> imported to the current TiddlyWiki. I am sure that this could be extended 
> with the import functionality but I currently do not know how to do that. 
> Right now, it will just silently create an empty tiddler with the external 
> tiddlers name unless you import it normally first and then drag it over to 
> the tagging area/icon. I might try to fold in those import actions but 
> welcome input on how to do that cleanly.
>
>
> It lives here:
>
> http://mwiktowy.tiddlyspot.com/#DropHere
>
> but attached as a .tid for convenience.
>
> I originally put this together with the intent of extending Mat's 
> excellent fields2table macro with an "add row" button that can be used by 
> either clicking it or dragging a tiddler on it. I figured that I would 
> share this while I figure out the rest :]
>
> /Mike
>

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[tw5] Re: DropHere tool

[bimlas]

Michael,

I like the idea, but I think you haven't got an answer yet because the 
documentation is not clear. For those who didn't understand how to use the 
plugin:

* Import or open a tiddler ("Main" for example)

* Open its info from the drop-down menu and go to Advanced tab
* Drag-n-drop the title to the tag icon in DropHere tiddler

OR

* Drag-n-drop the search result's title to the tag icon in DropHere tiddler

The droped tiddler will get "DropHere" tag.

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[tw5] Re: Interesting TiddlyWiki ...

[David Gifford]

Very nice! Thanks for sharing that!

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 9:10:56 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> #1 -- https://www.flygohr.com/#Flygohr
>
> Showing graphic artist *Gabriele Pezzin, (Flygohr)*.
>

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[tw5] Re: Interesting TiddlyWiki ...

[Thomas Elmiger]

Very nice! 
(And I am pleased to see my menu icons there.)

Cheers,
Thomas

Am Montag, 24. Juni 2019 16:10:56 UTC+2 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> #1 -- https://www.flygohr.com/#Flygohr
>
> Showing graphic artist *Gabriele Pezzin, (Flygohr)*.
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[tw5] Re: Cardo next tasks group by context

[Seb]

Hi Ton,

yes... probably we should continue this conversation there...

cheers

On Monday, 24 June 2019 20:47:12 UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
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> Hi guys,
>
> Are you aware of the Google group for TiddlyWiki-GTD?
>
> See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywiki-gtd
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo next tasks group by context

[Seb]

Hi Jianbo

you are probably right. In https://cardo.wiki it is explained how to get it 
but there is not license mention.  If it was MIT for example it would 
be simpler



On Monday, 24 June 2019 21:11:41 UTC+1, Jianbo Li wrote:
>
> Hi Seb,
>
> Good suggestion, but I wonder if it is a good idea to extract other 
> people's code and put it on github without the author's permission. You 
> might need to contact the author first.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jianbo
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 2:53:46 PM UTC-4, Seb wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jiambo
>>
>> same here. I'm an ex mGSD and testing cardo as I speak. I've tested it 
>> for a couple of days and I've already found a couple of annoying bugs. I've 
>> searched for a bug tracker but apparently it is not in github. I've never 
>> code in tiddlywiki so I'm not sure how hard it is, but I really tempted in 
>> extracting cardo code, put in in gitHub and start fixing it... 
>>
>> what do you think ?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 24 June 2019 18:50:49 UTC+1, Jianbo Li wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Anybody here using cardo? I am an mGSD user and would like to convert to 
>>> Cardo. Everything looks good but I am a little annoyed by a long list of 
>>> next tasks in the dashboard. I would like to group all the listed tasks by 
>>> context. I wonder if anyone here knows how to do it. 
>>>
>>> Here is what I have tried:
>>>
>>> Adding the following in "
>>> plugins/Cardo/ui/ViewTemplates/types/person/detail", but it listed a 
>>> lot of empty contexts (contexts without any task included).
>>>   <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]] +[tag[context]] 
>>> -[has[draft.of]]">
>>> <>> status:"{{$:/status/Cardo/selectedCategory}} 
>>> $(currentTiddler)$" includeComplete:'false' newButton:'true' newTag:'Task 
>>> Next $(currentTiddler)$' >>
>>>   
>>>
>>> Tried to add a groupBy in original taskList, but it does not seem to do 
>>> anything.
>>>   <>> 'task' status:'Next' buttonType:'TaskStatus' groupBy:'$(tag[context])'  
>>> newButton:'true' newButtonText:'The Next Thing We Must Do Is...' 
>>> newTag:'Task 
>>> Next' newButtonAssignee:'$(personguid)$'  includeComplete:'false'>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo next tasks group by context

[Jianbo Li]

Hi Seb,

Good suggestion, but I wonder if it is a good idea to extract other 
people's code and put it on github without the author's permission. You 
might need to contact the author first.

Regards,

Jianbo

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 2:53:46 PM UTC-4, Seb wrote:
>
> Hi Jiambo
>
> same here. I'm an ex mGSD and testing cardo as I speak. I've tested it for 
> a couple of days and I've already found a couple of annoying bugs. I've 
> searched for a bug tracker but apparently it is not in github. I've never 
> code in tiddlywiki so I'm not sure how hard it is, but I really tempted in 
> extracting cardo code, put in in gitHub and start fixing it... 
>
> what do you think ?
>
> thanks
>
>
> On Monday, 24 June 2019 18:50:49 UTC+1, Jianbo Li wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Anybody here using cardo? I am an mGSD user and would like to convert to 
>> Cardo. Everything looks good but I am a little annoyed by a long list of 
>> next tasks in the dashboard. I would like to group all the listed tasks by 
>> context. I wonder if anyone here knows how to do it. 
>>
>> Here is what I have tried:
>>
>> Adding the following in "
>> plugins/Cardo/ui/ViewTemplates/types/person/detail", but it listed a lot 
>> of empty contexts (contexts without any task included).
>>   <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]] +[tag[context]] 
>> -[has[draft.of]]">
>> <> status:"{{$:/status/Cardo/selectedCategory}} 
>> $(currentTiddler)$" includeComplete:'false' newButton:'true' newTag:'Task 
>> Next $(currentTiddler)$' >>
>>   
>>
>> Tried to add a groupBy in original taskList, but it does not seem to do 
>> anything.
>>   <> 'task' status:'Next' buttonType:'TaskStatus' groupBy:'$(tag[context])'  
>> newButton:'true' newButtonText:'The Next Thing We Must Do Is...' 
>> newTag:'Task 
>> Next' newButtonAssignee:'$(personguid)$'  includeComplete:'false'>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo next tasks group by context

[Jianbo Li]

Hi Ton, 

Thanks for the suggestion. Let me try there.

Regards,

Jianbo

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 3:47:12 PM UTC-4, Ton Gerner wrote:
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> Hi guys,
>
> Are you aware of the Google group for TiddlyWiki-GTD?
>
> See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywiki-gtd
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo next tasks group by context

[Ton Gerner]

Hi guys,

Are you aware of the Google group for TiddlyWiki-GTD?

See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywiki-gtd

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: Cardo next tasks group by context

[Seb]

Hi Jiambo

same here. I'm an ex mGSD and testing cardo as I speak. I've tested it for 
a couple of days and I've already found a couple of annoying bugs. I've 
searched for a bug tracker but apparently it is not in github. I've never 
code in tiddlywiki so I'm not sure how hard it is, but I really tempted in 
extracting cardo code, put in in gitHub and start fixing it... 

what do you think ?

thanks


On Monday, 24 June 2019 18:50:49 UTC+1, Jianbo Li wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Anybody here using cardo? I am an mGSD user and would like to convert to 
> Cardo. Everything looks good but I am a little annoyed by a long list of 
> next tasks in the dashboard. I would like to group all the listed tasks by 
> context. I wonder if anyone here knows how to do it. 
>
> Here is what I have tried:
>
> Adding the following in "
> plugins/Cardo/ui/ViewTemplates/types/person/detail", but it listed a lot 
> of empty contexts (contexts without any task included).
>   <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]] +[tag[context]] 
> -[has[draft.of]]">
> < status:"{{$:/status/Cardo/selectedCategory}} 
> $(currentTiddler)$" includeComplete:'false' newButton:'true' newTag:'Task 
> Next $(currentTiddler)$' >>
>   
>
> Tried to add a groupBy in original taskList, but it does not seem to do 
> anything.
>   < 'task' status:'Next' buttonType:'TaskStatus' groupBy:'$(tag[context])'  
> newButton:'true' newButtonText:'The Next Thing We Must Do Is...' newTag:'Task 
> Next' newButtonAssignee:'$(personguid)$'  includeComplete:'false'>>
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>

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[tw5] Cardo next tasks group by context

[Jianbo Li]

Hello all,

Anybody here using cardo? I am an mGSD user and would like to convert to 
Cardo. Everything looks good but I am a little annoyed by a long list of 
next tasks in the dashboard. I would like to group all the listed tasks by 
context. I wonder if anyone here knows how to do it. 

Here is what I have tried:

Adding the following in "
plugins/Cardo/ui/ViewTemplates/types/person/detail", but it listed a lot of 
empty contexts (contexts without any task included).
  <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]] +[tag[context]] 
-[has[draft.of]]">
<>
  

Tried to add a groupBy in original taskList, but it does not seem to do 
anything.
  <>

Thanks a lot

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[tw5] Re: 404 Error With WebDAV but Not Via File

[Lost Admin]

If you want to test your WebDAV server as a filesystem with windows, you 
want to map it as a drive to access it. When you use file:// in the 
browser, you aren't testing the WebDAV server, just your local hard drive.

To map a WebDAV server on Windows (7, 8, 9, or 10) ...

   - Open the windows file manager
   - Choose Map a Network Drive (under Home -> Easy access -> map as drive)
   - Enter the base URL (https://server.domain.dom/dav) for the WebDAV 
   (same as you used in tiddlywiki but without the filename)
   - Check Connect using different credentials
   - Use the credentials for the webdav server


If the WebDav server is working properly, you should see it as a mapped 
drive and be able to use file explorer to read/write files.


On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 6:34:45 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>
> I should add that I got this .html file by doing a 'wget' to download the 
> .html file from a Node.js TiddlyWiki.  i.e. I'm trying to convert a wiki 
> from Node.js to WebDAV.
>
> On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 5:07:51 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting 
>> syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - 17:03:04 22 6 2019
>>
>> XMLHttpRequest error code: 404
>> and
>> syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - 17:03:06 22 6 2019
>>
>> Sync error while processing '$:/StoryList 
>> ': 
>> XMLHttpRequest error code: 404
>> when I serve my TW5 via WebDAV.  But when I access the SAME file via 
>> file:// I do not get errors.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to how I might solve this?
>> tnx
>> Kevin Kleinfelter
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-installing TiddlyWiki

[PMario]

Hi, 

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 9:55:56 AM UTC+2, Adrian Holbrook wrote:

> ...
>
 

> now and I am thinking of trying out IIS and WebDAV. Can I still keep my TW 
> files in my Dropbox folder on the PC or do I have to locate them on the C: 
> Drive? My dropbox folder is located on a separate Hard Drive - not C:
>

It is possible to configure the WebDav folder, that contains the wiki file. 
... BUT I didn't try it in combination with dropbox. ... 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Interesting TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Repeat for those on email ...

On Monday, 24 June 2019 16:10:56 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> #1 -- https://www.flygohr.com/#Flygohr
>
> Showing graphic artist *Gabriele Pezzin, (Flygohr)*.
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[HC Haase]

fredag den 21. juni 2019 kl. 14.03.20 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>>
>> ...but what is that totally blank batchmanipulator "head" where you 
>> define the filters etc? Is that how it actually looks on you screen? Does 
>> it get that way from the theme you've chosen (which one in that case)?
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>
> The green is fine.. but yes that is how it i looks at my screen. If i 
> choose a white palette then no problem. it is all he white background and 
> unreadable text that's my problem. I found some "background:white" code 
> that I have commented out, but the dropdown is still not nice. 
>
 

> my palette is spartan night made by jd
>

hmm.. I found out, that the dropdown thing is from the palette somewhere. 
when I use another variation of this palette the dropdown is fine


(BTW this is witht the outcommented bacground:white modifications)


>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[HC Haase]

fredag den 21. juni 2019 kl. 14.03.20 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
> ...but what is that totally blank batchmanipulator "head" where you define 
> the filters etc? Is that how it actually looks on you screen? Does it get 
> that way from the theme you've chosen (which one in that case)?
>
> <:-)
>

The green is fine.. but yes that is how it i looks at my screen. If i 
choose a white palette then no problem. it is all he white background and 
unreadable text that's my problem. I found some "background:white" code 
that I have commented out, but the dropdown is still not nice. 

my palette is spartan night made by jd

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[tw5] Re: Fields and tables.

[Stephen Wilson]

Thanks for the update Jed.

On Monday, 24 June 2019 10:06:25 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> In its current state the dynamic tables macros will not be able to get 
> around the problems you mention. The built in restrictions on field names 
> prevent spaces in names. The katex part is because it uses a view widget 
> instead of transcluding.
>
> I need to update the macros at some point. The view/transclude part can 
> just be an input parameter but the naming means it would have to use data 
> tiddlers which take away a lot of the simplicity. So that will probably be 
> another macro.
>

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[tw5] Fields and tables.

[Jed Carty]

In its current state the dynamic tables macros will not be able to get around 
the problems you mention. The built in restrictions on field names prevent 
spaces in names. The katex part is because it uses a view widget instead of 
transcluding.

I need to update the macros at some point. The view/transclude part can just be 
an input parameter but the naming means it would have to use data tiddlers 
which take away a lot of the simplicity. So that will probably be another macro.

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[tw5] Re: Saving in chrome

[BJ]

Hi sklpns, 
as far as I am aware the savetiddlers  extension works as expected on 
firefox and chrome. 

Older versions of twclassic, before the changes for html5 saving was 
implemented, will not save. 

There is a bug with the current twclassic saving mechanism: it copies all 
the dom, and this includes the injected messagebox from savetiddlers (which 
it should not save), and this causes savetiddlers to subsequently think 
that another saver is in use and therefore stops saving. In order for 
savetiddlers to work someone needs to fix this bug in the twclassic.

cheers

BJ



On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 10:26:07 PM UTC+2, A Sklpns wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> Mark S., 
> thank you for continuing the conversation over at the TWC group,
> (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikiclassic/cfef6YhGGuc)
>
> BJ,
> here is a "matrix" of the problem so to speak
>
> Windows 10 / Google Chrome Version 75.0.3770.100 (Official Build) (64-bit)
>
> 1. TW5 version 5.1.15 saves as expected: it downloads the file in the 
> Downloads folder 
> 2. ''Empty'' TWC file version 2.9.2 from https://classic.tiddlywiki.com/ 
> saves as expected: Chrome downloads the file in the Downloads folder 
> 3. My own TWC file version 2.9.2 (size: 4.96 MB) doesn't save as expected: 
> instead of downloading the file Chrome fails with a ''download failed - 
> Network error'' message   
> 4. My own TWC file version 2.6.0 (size: 4.60 MB) doesn't save as expected: 
> instead of downloading the file Chrome fails with the following pop up 
>  "It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:- your 
> browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and 
> Opera all work if properly configured)- the pathname to your TiddlyWiki 
> file contains illegal characters\n- the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved 
> or renamed".
>
> All of the above files save correctly under Firefox 67.0.4 (64-bit) in 
> Windows 10 using the File Backups firefox addon (
> https://pmario.github.io/file-backups/, 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/file-backups/) 
>
> Thank you!
> sklpns
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-installing TiddlyWiki

[Adrian Holbrook]

I thought I had sorted out my problems with saving TWs but I have had a few 
PC problems and after a complete reinstall I am back into trying to sort 
out the problem again. I cannot seem to get TWCloud to work now and I am 
thinking of trying out IIS and WebDAV. Can I still keep my TW files in my 
Dropbox folder on the PC or do I have to locate them on the C: Drive? My 
dropbox folder is located on a separate Hard Drive - not C:

On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 7:09:45 AM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> since you use win10, WebDav could be an option. I did create 3 short 
> videos, how to activate it.
> How to use TiddlyWiki with IIS and WebDAV 
> 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw5] Fields and tables.

[Ste Wilson]

Prompted by Mats fields2tabke plug in and the link to Jed's Dynamic Tables I 
thought I'd have a play as I've been thinking of putting together a Materials 
Data tiddlywiki. (anyone out there done this?) 

My use case would be to have materials data tables (e.g. 
http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Properties%20of%20Metals) but also to be 
able to link to aluminium for example and there find all the data relating to 
aluminium from any and all tables containing aluminium data. 

I've had a play with Jed's Dynamic tables and hit a couple of initial snags. 

katex is displayed raw, dollar signs and all. (used for chemical formula) 

Can't edit fields for columns with a space in the title in the dynamic view on 
the table wizard. 

Any help appreciated. 

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler height and width

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

I may be wrong but have you looked at the page view template and the other 
values in Control Panel > Theme Tweeks > Sizes ?

Because I believe the tiddler size is perhaps what is left after these 
other elements. In other words you influence other classes to effect the 
tiddlers. It would make sense if the design maximised tiddler space.

Regards
Tony

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