[tw5] Re: Multiple widgets from template transclusion

2019-11-21 Thread TonyM
Off course, face palm

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[tw5] Re: Multiple widgets from template transclusion

2019-11-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 8:40:37 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Also what is intended by the use of "// widget //"
>
> as mark says and I think /> is not sufficient to close the view widget. 
> Use <$view Params >
>

All widgets that don't require content inside them *can* use the 
self-closing "/>" syntax. Thus, <$view ... /> without a matching  
is totally acceptable.

Also, the //...// surrounding the <$view field="caption"/> simply makes it 
italic.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Mohammad Are you there?

2019-11-21 Thread A Gloom
as may may know Mohammad shiraz tool.

I picked up on his tool name cause I knew of the city from world history-- 
I have a few references to Middle Eastern culture & history in my personal 
project-- would had been a perfect way to incorporate some world history & 
culture into my child's learning.  I'm confident he'll be back among us to 
see it.

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[tw5] Re: Mohammad Are you there?

2019-11-21 Thread TonyM
Yes I heard this. Even a specific mention of Shiraz as a location impacted, as 
may may know Mohammad shiraz tool.

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[tw5] Re: Multiple widgets from template transclusion

2019-11-21 Thread TonyM
Also what is intended by the use of "// widget //"

as mark says and I think /> is not sufficient to close the view widget. Use 
<$view Params >

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[tw5] Re: Mohammad Are you there?

2019-11-21 Thread A Gloom
there's currently Internet issues...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/middleeast/iran-internet-shutdown-intl/index.html

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

2019-11-21 Thread TonyM
Thanks Jed

I imaging preparing a website on the internet and the plugin to use local host 
with an unusual port e.g. 8087 with be the most effective way to stay local 
only and not clash with an existing port. 

Then all they do is install bob on any platform, reload the wiki and its done.

With careful use of the local storage plugin we can retain any history or 
changes made when online and save them via the plugin and turn off local 
storage.

This is getting very close to perfect, as the first step.

A little more guidance and they will be using bob as a local platform, server, 
new wikis etc... With no additional installation.

Good stuff
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Multiple widgets from template transclusion

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Under HTML5 all tags have to either be self-closed or have matching closing 
tags.

Widgets work just like html tags. So each <$view> widget needs to be closed 
on the end. e.g.

<$view field="caption" */>*

HTH

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 5:30:40 PM UTC-8, Paul Lee wrote:
>
> Why will only one *<$view>* widget from my template tiddler show up in 
> the tiddlers that transclude the template?
>
> I have data stored in fields in my tiddlers, and I want those fields to be 
> rendered into the tiddler based on the template that I transclude inside 
> each tiddler. However, I can only ever get this to work with once in each 
> tiddler. The first time I reference a field with the *<$view>* widget, it 
> is correctly displayed, but subsequent attempts to reference different 
> fields simply do not show up. I tested using a different widget, <$text>, 
> and that widget also only appears if it is the first widget in a tiddler.
>
> How do I get multiple widgets to show up in the same tiddler?
>
> I have this in my template tiddler:
>
>  
> //<$view field="caption">//
>
>
> ''Year of birth: <$view field="birth-year">''
>
>
> ''Year of death: <$view field="death-year">''
>
> The tiddlers transclude this template successfully, but with this code, 
> only the value of the child tiddlers' "caption" field is displayed, unless 
> that line in deleted from the template, in which case only the "birth-year" 
> field is rendered.
>
> How can I render multiple widgets using one template?
>
> Thanks much.
>

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[tw5] Re: Computer freezes while saving with Firefox / Timimi

2019-11-21 Thread Mal
Tony,

I'm running linux, so portableapps is not really an option, so instead, I 
installed Firefox 68.2.0esr (64-bit) from a snap package.  This allows me 
to have both versions installed and able to run simultaneously.  With the 
esr version, a 34MB wiki saves without problems in a few seconds.  This 
supports the theory that the problem is with a recent Firefox update.

Note, also that I see the same symptoms with a number of large tiddlywiki 
files, so it is not an issue with one particular wiki.

I think I will raise an issue on the Timimi Github site for the information 
of other users and for Riz if he is able to put any thought into this.

Regards,

Mal



On Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:16:46 UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mal,
>
> I am using the same version of firefox as you. With no problems after this 
> update
>
> Perhaps you could get an earlier version of firefox from portableapps.com 
> or somewhere and see if the problem is there. Do test an empty file because 
> it will say if the mechanism is working and the size is a problem. If it 
> works try importing your old wiki data (tiddlers only) first into the empty.
>
> Best of luck
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 4:01:45 PM UTC+11, Mal wrote:
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> I just reinstalled Timimi and it still chokes on my large wiki.
>>
>> I note that the add-in is version 2.0.3 while the downloaded installation 
>> file is version 2.0.2 - not sure if this is a problem.
>>
>> I'm not using the backup functionality.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mal
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

2019-11-21 Thread TonyM
Jed

I think that is a good idea. Perhaps we can find an existing one that 
available. I am keen to see if we can identify a simple work flow from in 
browser discovery to making it your own and being able to save and reopen in a 
trusted location. I love the multiple wiki bob, TD and TS but there is no harm 
of providing a single wiki at a time solution. Once someone uses a for purpose 
tiddlywiki a large percentage will start to use it as a platform, look at its 
possibilities and the the multi wiki solutions. 

I am just keen to make the initial use and private data very simple.

As Mario says a big part is presenting information to the user that guides them.

I think the more generic the solution the better and a side effect may be a 
more useful tool. I wonder if such a saver/server could be delivered as a 
progressive web app then tiddlywiki leverage that, in effect allowing install 
of the saver on desktops and mobiles without having to turn tw into PWA but 
giving it the local saving features of one.

REGARDS
TONY

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[tw5] Multiple widgets from template transclusion

2019-11-21 Thread Paul Lee
Why will only one *<$view>* widget from my template tiddler show up in the 
tiddlers that transclude the template?

I have data stored in fields in my tiddlers, and I want those fields to be 
rendered into the tiddler based on the template that I transclude inside 
each tiddler. However, I can only ever get this to work with once in each 
tiddler. The first time I reference a field with the *<$view>* widget, it 
is correctly displayed, but subsequent attempts to reference different 
fields simply do not show up. I tested using a different widget, <$text>, 
and that widget also only appears if it is the first widget in a tiddler.

How do I get multiple widgets to show up in the same tiddler?

I have this in my template tiddler:

 
//<$view field="caption">//


''Year of birth: <$view field="birth-year">''


''Year of death: <$view field="death-year">''

The tiddlers transclude this template successfully, but with this code, 
only the value of the child tiddlers' "caption" field is displayed, unless 
that line in deleted from the template, in which case only the "birth-year" 
field is rendered.

How can I render multiple widgets using one template?

Thanks much.

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[tw5] Re: Mohammad Are you there?

2019-11-21 Thread Julio Peña
Hi everyone...Oh wow,

Sometimes we take it for granted how good we have it in the western 
hemisphere.

Hopefully things come back to some "normalcy" and Mohammed can post again.

Best regards,

Julio

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 8:43:28 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I am aware of international politics and local issues may be affecting 
> your participation. 
>
> We wish you the best and if you can find a way I am prepared to post on 
> your behalf if necessary. 
>
> To All,
>
>- You may have heard the Internet is being toyed with, blocked, 
>monitored and sites blacklisted in relation to Iran. 
>- This impacted Mohammad Previously, so please be thoughtful if 
>Mohammad is unable to reply in a timely manner. 
>- If we manage a brief contact if someone can provide some bypass 
>tools to give him the freedom he should be entitled to please be ready to 
>share.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
There is a tab now, but it doesn't use a short caption, it uses 
$:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/SaverServer

Pathing is still not right:

Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 
'C:\C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notee
s-n-scratches.html'

Unless -- is there supposed to be a new plugin for the stand-alone file? 
I'm still on 0.0.3.

Thanks!

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 2:30:35 PM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The configuration for Bob is missing the tag that should put it in the 
> settings under Bob, because of course I missed that. The tiddler 
> is $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/SaverServer and you can find it by searching for 
> shadows under the advanced search.
>
> As far as the other problem goes, that looks like windows is interpreting 
> the path as a relative path and adding c:\ to it. That isn't a check I was 
> expecting to have to make. Windows is going to give me migraines.
>
> I am uploading version 1.3.3a that should have the saver tab under Bob in 
> the correct place and may fix the windows pathing problem, but that part I 
> can't test. It will be uploaded whenever my tethered data lets me finish.
>

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[tw5] Re: Question if it can be done: a special kind of stamp

2019-11-21 Thread David Gifford
Thanks Mark! I am going to give this a go! Blessings

Dave

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 8:40:46 AM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> <$vars now=<> lb="[[" pipe="|" rb="]]">
> {{{ [[sources]addprefixaddsuffixaddsuffixaddsuffix] }}}
> 
>
> On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 5:19:12 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark (and anyone else who happens to see this)
>>
>> Would there be a way to create a stamp for the following?
>>
>> [[sources| + datetimestamp of now + ]]
>>
>> My use case is taking a note, then having a link to another tiddler, with 
>> the current date and time as its title, containing links to sources. I 
>> would stamp the above in my notes tiddler, save the notes tiddler, then 
>> click on the link to create the datetimestamp tiddler and add sources.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 2:38:56 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> This seemed to work in the title snippet:
>>>
>>> <$vars myspan="" myspanx="" >
>>> {{{ [all[tiddlers]removeprefix[Draft of 
>>> ']removesuffix[']addprefixaddsuffix] }}}
>>> 
>>>
>>> You can see where to change the class name as needed.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:52:36 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:

 Wow, Mark, this is great! Thank you!

 Okay, next question: would there be a way for me to edit this so that 
 the title gets wrapped in a span class? I tried editing"Snippet - 
 Title of draft tiddler", 
 but while it stamped regular text I had added, it did not stamp the 
 span class.

 On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I've been thinking for awhile that it would be neat to have a 
> "dynamic" stamp, that doesn't just paste text, but renders it first.
>
> Here's a first step towards that. Drag and drop the attached into your 
> backed-up TW. Reload.
>
> This will put a second stamp symbol in your editor. This stamp will 
> attempt to render your stamp snippets. I've provided two
> stamps. One generates the current time. The other generates the 
> current title IF this is the only tiddler being edited
> at the moment. I didn't have a way to grab the current title. Possibly 
> it's in the code somewhere. So ... first stab.
>
> A better approach would be to have snippets that could be tagged as 
> "dynamic". Then there would be only one stamp tool
> in the toolbar. But that would require changing core code, so this 
> will have to do for now.
>
> Hope this is what you were looking for!
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 10:30:25 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Is it possible to create a stamp that 
>>
>> 1) grabs the title of the current tiddler, and
>> 2) stamps it as text?
>>
>> Use case: I take notes on reading in chapters of books, and in 
>> webpages, and would like to more quickly stamp their sources after the 
>> note 
>> or snippet in question. If the title of the tiddler is "https://...; or 
>> "Book (Author), ch 1", then by clicking on a button in the edittoolbar I 
>> could quickly add the source.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
The configuration for Bob is missing the tag that should put it in the 
settings under Bob, because of course I missed that. The tiddler 
is $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/SaverServer and you can find it by searching for 
shadows under the advanced search.

As far as the other problem goes, that looks like windows is interpreting 
the path as a relative path and adding c:\ to it. That isn't a check I was 
expecting to have to make. Windows is going to give me migraines.

I am uploading version 1.3.3a that should have the saver tab under Bob in 
the correct place and may fix the windows pathing problem, but that part I 
can't test. It will be uploaded whenever my tethered data lets me finish.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
(I'm repeating this from the 1.3.2 thread, so it doesn't get lost)

Now getting:

Error while saving:
BobSaver: Saving error, check that you have the correct key set.

What is a key set?

On the command line, I can see that it is attempting to do the impossible:

Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 
'C:\C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notee
s-n-scratches.html'


The path in the URL bar was:

file:///C:/Users/Mark/Downloads/notees-n-scratches.html

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
But

Added saver configuration tab under Bob settings
>

Under ControlPanel/Saving, I see

General
Download saver
Github-Saver
Gitlab-Saver
TiddlySpot Saver

Nothing for Bob. Just double-checked. The plugin is definitely saying vsn 
"1.3.3"

Thanks!

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 1:18:02 PM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> it is under $:/ControlPanel -> Saving with the configuration for all the 
> other savers.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
The BobSaver part is from the BobSaver plugin, if you want to configure the 
setting on the Bob side you have to use the manual configuration.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
it is under $:/ControlPanel -> Saving with the configuration for all the 
other savers.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I don't see the saver configuration tab. Should it be one the tabs 
immediately under Bob settings, or something deeper down?

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 10:56:52 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I made this quick release because there were some CORS problems with the 
> BobSaver.
>
> I also added some configuration options to both the BobSaver plugin and to 
> Bob itself for the saver. You can optionally add a key in Bob that you have 
> to enter into a wiki in order to let it save.
>
>
> The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
> The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases 
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>
>
> !! Version 1.3.3 Kohlrabi
>
> * Added saver key to the single file saver
> ** This means that you can set a key and a wiki will only save if it you 
> enter the correct key.
> ** Leaving the key blank means that no key is required.
> * Added saver configuration tab under Bob settings
> ** Enable/disable saver server
> ** Set saver key
> ** Set host (WARNING: This can very easily break the saver)
> ** Set port (WARNING: This can very easily break the saver)
> * internalFetch no longer causes a browser alert when you use 
> resolution=force
> * Browser alert tiddlers are now prefixed with `$:/temp/` so that they 
> don't show up in the sidebar and don't get saved.
> * Fixed some very annoying CORS problems
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Now getting:

Error while saving:
BobSaver: Saving error, check that you have the correct key set.

What is a key set?

On the command line, I can see that it is attempting to do the impossible:

Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 
'C:\C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notee
s-n-scratches.html'


The path in the URL bar was:

file:///C:/Users/Mark/Downloads/notees-n-scratches.html

Thanks!

Thanks!

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 11:34:55 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The release is here: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases
>
> It has its own announcement
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
The release is here: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases

It has its own announcement

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Should we look for it in the releases? Still showing 1.3.2. Thanks!

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 10:34:47 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Version 0.0.3 of BobSaver and version 1.3.3 of Bob are out, BobEXE is 
> being uploaded right now so it should be available when that is finished 
> and it should take care of the CORS problems.
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[tw5] Re: Setting a field value from within SVG

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
I made some svg things using Snap.svg a while ago, it is probably much more 
elaborate than you want, but it 
works. https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/SnapSVG/

Although I don't remember a thing about how it works.

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
Creating and maintaining a set of browser plugins is far more complex than 
required considering all the browsers that need to be supported. Adding the 
BobSaver to the core and using either Bob or something else that can use 
the same saver. It doesn't have to be Bob, or even written in node, 
anything that can accept http POSTs can work. Then it works in any browser 
and doesn't require maintaining any browser plugins or anything like that.

Creating a simple iOS application that handles saving using the same saver 
wouldn't be too difficult. I haven't done any significant android 
development but I imagine it would be simple as well, it is just a server 
that accepts POSTs and saves the received file. In both cases I think that 
handling file permissions is the hardest part.

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[tw5] Setting a field value from within SVG

2019-11-21 Thread Sycom
Hello,

I think you should put your svg image inside a button with an ActionWidget.

See https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionSetFieldWidget

Cheers

Sylvain
@sycom

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[tw5] [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.3, Kohlrabi and how I dislike CORS

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
I made this quick release because there were some CORS problems with the 
BobSaver.

I also added some configuration options to both the BobSaver plugin and to 
Bob itself for the saver. You can optionally add a key in Bob that you have 
to enter into a wiki in order to let it save.


The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases 

If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE


!! Version 1.3.3 Kohlrabi

* Added saver key to the single file saver
** This means that you can set a key and a wiki will only save if it you 
enter the correct key.
** Leaving the key blank means that no key is required.
* Added saver configuration tab under Bob settings
** Enable/disable saver server
** Set saver key
** Set host (WARNING: This can very easily break the saver)
** Set port (WARNING: This can very easily break the saver)
* internalFetch no longer causes a browser alert when you use 
resolution=force
* Browser alert tiddlers are now prefixed with `$:/temp/` so that they 
don't show up in the sidebar and don't get saved.
* Fixed some very annoying CORS problems

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
Version 0.0.3 of BobSaver and version 1.3.3 of Bob are out, BobEXE is being 
uploaded right now so it should be available when that is finished and it 
should take care of the CORS problems.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
Oh, I see it. There is a CORs problem that somehow wasn't a problem all the 
time for me. I will fix it and push out a new version.

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[tw5] Setting a field value from within SVG

2019-11-21 Thread 'c pa' via TiddlyWiki
I want to use clickable SVG images from within my Tiddlywiki. 
The documentation says to use the foreignobject element to enclose wikitext
This is problematic because it is so difficult to position and size the 
button to coincide with the drawing element and manage elemnt ordering etc.

I went to MDN and found:

http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;>
  

Does anyone know how I can use an onClick event like this to call a tiddlywiki 
macro?

I tried onclick="this.wiki.setText('tiddlerName','current-item',null,'test 
text',null);"

But that doesn't work any clues?

Then for extra points... Would it be possible to call a macro with parameters? 
If I could do that, I could do more fancy things.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
In case it matters 

Windows 7, Firefox 70.0.1


On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 7:31:02 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I get:
>
> BobSaver is not available, is Bob running? Falling back to manual download 
> saver.
>
> And yes, Bob 1.3.2 is running:
>
> NodeSettings - Parsed raw settings.
> TiddlyWiki version 5.1.21 with Bob version 1.3.2
> Bob saver server running on port 61192
> Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
> (press ctrl-C to exit)
> new connection
> No Languages Folder C:\Apps\Bob-1.3.2\Languages
> new connection
> No Languages Folder C:\Apps\Bob-1.3.2\Languages
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 7:30:45 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> This version of Bob adds support for the BobSaver, a saver for single 
>> file wikis that lets them save and autosave without doing anything special 
>> to open them. They have to have the BobSaver plugin installed, that will be 
>> announced in another post and information is here 
>> https://ooktech-public.gitlab.io/bobsaver/.
>>
>> Otherwise this fixes problems with moving things between wikis, both the 
>> internalFetch and more progress on TWederBob and other federation things.
>>
>> The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
>> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>> The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
>> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob/releases (I uploaded the executables 
>> to the wrong place, I will put them in the normal place when I get around 
>> to it.)
>>
>> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
>> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
>> or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
>> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>>
>> The full changelog is here:
>>
>> !! Version 1.3.2 Sugar Beets
>>
>> * Update documentation in the server routes
>> * Hopefully fix the problem where BobEXE crashes if there is no GUI and 
>> `suppressBrowser` is not set to `yes`
>> * Fix some api routes used by TWederBob
>> * Fix a bug with `internalFetch` that would break when using `force` for 
>> conflicts
>> * Fix some other bugs with `internalFetch` that resulted in tiddlers 
>> being created in the wrong wikis.
>> * Make federated and local chat use the same format for messages
>> * Add saver for single-file wikis
>> ** Works with the `BobSaver` plugin. Put the `BobSaver` plugin in your 
>> wiki then if you have Bob running on your computer the wiki will save as 
>> expected.
>> * Some tweaks to how browser alerts are sent to hopefully reduce the 
>> alert spamming.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.3.2, Sugar Beets, single-file saver and federation stuff

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I get:

BobSaver is not available, is Bob running? Falling back to manual download 
saver.

And yes, Bob 1.3.2 is running:

NodeSettings - Parsed raw settings.
TiddlyWiki version 5.1.21 with Bob version 1.3.2
Bob saver server running on port 61192
Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)
new connection
No Languages Folder C:\Apps\Bob-1.3.2\Languages
new connection
No Languages Folder C:\Apps\Bob-1.3.2\Languages

Thanks!

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 7:30:45 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> This version of Bob adds support for the BobSaver, a saver for single file 
> wikis that lets them save and autosave without doing anything special to 
> open them. They have to have the BobSaver plugin installed, that will be 
> announced in another post and information is here 
> https://ooktech-public.gitlab.io/bobsaver/.
>
> Otherwise this fixes problems with moving things between wikis, both the 
> internalFetch and more progress on TWederBob and other federation things.
>
> The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
> The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob/releases (I uploaded the executables 
> to the wrong place, I will put them in the normal place when I get around 
> to it.)
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>
> The full changelog is here:
>
> !! Version 1.3.2 Sugar Beets
>
> * Update documentation in the server routes
> * Hopefully fix the problem where BobEXE crashes if there is no GUI and 
> `suppressBrowser` is not set to `yes`
> * Fix some api routes used by TWederBob
> * Fix a bug with `internalFetch` that would break when using `force` for 
> conflicts
> * Fix some other bugs with `internalFetch` that resulted in tiddlers being 
> created in the wrong wikis.
> * Make federated and local chat use the same format for messages
> * Add saver for single-file wikis
> ** Works with the `BobSaver` plugin. Put the `BobSaver` plugin in your 
> wiki then if you have Bob running on your computer the wiki will save as 
> expected.
> * Some tweaks to how browser alerts are sent to hopefully reduce the alert 
> spamming.
>

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[tw5] Re: Question if it can be done: a special kind of stamp

2019-11-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
<$vars now=<> lb="[[" pipe="|" rb="]]">
{{{ [[sources]addprefixaddsuffixaddsuffixaddsuffix] }}}


On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 5:19:12 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mark (and anyone else who happens to see this)
>
> Would there be a way to create a stamp for the following?
>
> [[sources| + datetimestamp of now + ]]
>
> My use case is taking a note, then having a link to another tiddler, with 
> the current date and time as its title, containing links to sources. I 
> would stamp the above in my notes tiddler, save the notes tiddler, then 
> click on the link to create the datetimestamp tiddler and add sources.
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 2:38:56 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> This seemed to work in the title snippet:
>>
>> <$vars myspan="" myspanx="" >
>> {{{ [all[tiddlers]removeprefix[Draft of 
>> ']removesuffix[']addprefixaddsuffix] }}}
>> 
>>
>> You can see where to change the class name as needed.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:52:36 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, Mark, this is great! Thank you!
>>>
>>> Okay, next question: would there be a way for me to edit this so that 
>>> the title gets wrapped in a span class? I tried editing"Snippet - Title 
>>> of draft tiddler", 
>>> but while it stamped regular text I had added, it did not stamp the span 
>>> class.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:

 I've been thinking for awhile that it would be neat to have a "dynamic" 
 stamp, that doesn't just paste text, but renders it first.

 Here's a first step towards that. Drag and drop the attached into your 
 backed-up TW. Reload.

 This will put a second stamp symbol in your editor. This stamp will 
 attempt to render your stamp snippets. I've provided two
 stamps. One generates the current time. The other generates the current 
 title IF this is the only tiddler being edited
 at the moment. I didn't have a way to grab the current title. Possibly 
 it's in the code somewhere. So ... first stab.

 A better approach would be to have snippets that could be tagged as 
 "dynamic". Then there would be only one stamp tool
 in the toolbar. But that would require changing core code, so this will 
 have to do for now.

 Hope this is what you were looking for!

 -- Mark

 On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 10:30:25 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Is it possible to create a stamp that 
>
> 1) grabs the title of the current tiddler, and
> 2) stamps it as text?
>
> Use case: I take notes on reading in chapters of books, and in 
> webpages, and would like to more quickly stamp their sources after the 
> note 
> or snippet in question. If the title of the tiddler is "https://...; or 
> "Book (Author), ch 1", then by clicking on a button in the edittoolbar I 
> could quickly add the source.
>


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Re: [tw5] [TW5] How to show all modified or created tiddles before saving?

2019-11-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Siniy-Kit

> Hi. I use single-file tiddlywiki.html for making mini-sites (many static 
> pages). I want make static pages only from tiddles I have modified or created 
> before saving. How can i get $list of this kind of tiddlers?

The “haschanged” operator filters tiddlers that have been modified since the 
wiki was loaded:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#haschanged%20Operator 


So you should be able to use something like [all[tiddlers]haschanged[]] to get 
a list of changed tiddlers for rendering.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] [TW5] How to show all modified or created tiddles before saving?

2019-11-21 Thread Siniy-Kit
Hi. I use single-file tiddlywiki.html for making mini-sites (many static 
pages). I want make static pages only from tiddles I have modified or 
created before saving. How can i get $list of this kind of tiddlers?

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[tw5] Re: Classic Tiddly wiki not displaying images

2019-11-21 Thread Jason Peterson
Thank you Alfonso

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 4:18:16 PM UTC-5, Alfonso Arciniega 
wrote:
>
> You may want to post your question to:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikiclassic
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfonso
>

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[tw5] Re: Question if it can be done: a special kind of stamp

2019-11-21 Thread David Gifford
Hi Mark (and anyone else who happens to see this)

Would there be a way to create a stamp for the following?

[[sources| + datetimestamp of now + ]]

My use case is taking a note, then having a link to another tiddler, with 
the current date and time as its title, containing links to sources. I 
would stamp the above in my notes tiddler, save the notes tiddler, then 
click on the link to create the datetimestamp tiddler and add sources.

On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 2:38:56 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This seemed to work in the title snippet:
>
> <$vars myspan="" myspanx="" >
> {{{ [all[tiddlers]removeprefix[Draft of 
> ']removesuffix[']addprefixaddsuffix] }}}
> 
>
> You can see where to change the class name as needed.
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:52:36 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Wow, Mark, this is great! Thank you!
>>
>> Okay, next question: would there be a way for me to edit this so that the 
>> title gets wrapped in a span class? I tried editing"Snippet - Title of 
>> draft tiddler", 
>> but while it stamped regular text I had added, it did not stamp the span 
>> class.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been thinking for awhile that it would be neat to have a "dynamic" 
>>> stamp, that doesn't just paste text, but renders it first.
>>>
>>> Here's a first step towards that. Drag and drop the attached into your 
>>> backed-up TW. Reload.
>>>
>>> This will put a second stamp symbol in your editor. This stamp will 
>>> attempt to render your stamp snippets. I've provided two
>>> stamps. One generates the current time. The other generates the current 
>>> title IF this is the only tiddler being edited
>>> at the moment. I didn't have a way to grab the current title. Possibly 
>>> it's in the code somewhere. So ... first stab.
>>>
>>> A better approach would be to have snippets that could be tagged as 
>>> "dynamic". Then there would be only one stamp tool
>>> in the toolbar. But that would require changing core code, so this will 
>>> have to do for now.
>>>
>>> Hope this is what you were looking for!
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 10:30:25 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi all

 Is it possible to create a stamp that 

 1) grabs the title of the current tiddler, and
 2) stamps it as text?

 Use case: I take notes on reading in chapters of books, and in 
 webpages, and would like to more quickly stamp their sources after the 
 note 
 or snippet in question. If the title of the tiddler is "https://...; or 
 "Book (Author), ch 1", then by clicking on a button in the edittoolbar I 
 could quickly add the source.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

2019-11-21 Thread Jed Carty
It is configured to look for Bob on localhost on a fixed port. Having the IP 
and port configurable is simple enough to add,

I will put that in the next release

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

2019-11-21 Thread PMario
On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 2:23:27 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:

The key value of the use of a .tw file is simply to differentiate it from 
> other html files, which will only ever open in the default browser unless 
> you use open with which is a clumsy requirements. Tiddlywiki could open in 
> a default browser without the saver available and work be done before it is 
> discovered it will not save. 
>

TiddlyWiki will save! ... There will always be the "default saver". 

The only disadvantage is: *inconvenience*. Browsers add "(1), (2) .. (x)" 
postfixes to the file names. BUT TW will save as a .html file. 

It should be possible to let the default saver open an info tiddler, that 
explains, what's going on and present a "Save As" button, instead of the OS 
specific default "Save File" or "Open With" dialogue. 

So may be we can make the default saver workflow "more convenient". So the 
newbee user can understand what's going on. 

-mario


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[tw5] Re: tiddlywiki uses

2019-11-21 Thread Victor Dorneanu
This thread is awesome! I still think Tiddlywiki can be used for so many 
purposes. I'm always looking forward for new ideas how to use TW. For all 
people that have posted how they use TW:


   - How do you manage different TWs? Do you use any versioning system 
   (e.g. git)
   - How do you cross-link between TWs?
   - Do you have a workflow for publishing new TWs?
   - How do you separate "private" Tiddlers from "public" ones?
   
At the moment I only have 1 big TW that I use for several things:


   - Collection of highlights from different books I have read
  - Currently available at http://wiki.dornea.nu/books.html
  - Collection of highlights from different (online) articles I 
   constantly read
   - (Technical) notes regarding programming, networking and security
   - For project management I use "bullet journaling" and a Leuchtturm 1917 
   A4 
   - I still think that taking notes with pen and paper is way faster than 
  any digital solution
  - saving these notes for future use is indeed a problem: From time to 
  time I review them and "copy" them to TW
   - In general I think TW is a perfect GUI for managing bits of information
  - you can easily import JSON 
  - you can easily tag data 
  - you always have a nice GUI to view and manipulate your data
  - at work I have used TW to classify "security vulnerabilities" info 
  "false positives" or "true positives"
   - future plans:
  - I'm planning to migrate my blog (http://blog.dornea.nu) to TW
  - Embed Jupyter Notebooks 
  
  - have TW running on AWS Lambda (with a DynamoDB backend)
 - based on widdly
 - some work has been done: check 
 https://gitlab.com/vdorneanu/widdly
  

Keep up the good examples! Have a nice day. 

Greetings from Berlin, 
Victor 


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[tw5] Importing data into a data tiddler

2019-11-21 Thread Luis Gonzalez
If you have a phone list in excel, what is the best way of import them into 
a data tiddler?

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[tw5] Re: How do I use JSON in Tiddlywiki?

2019-11-21 Thread PMario
Hi David, 

Can you provide us with a JSON object, that you get from Tumblr? It should 
contain 1, 2 or more elements. 
So we can see how it looks like. 

OR you can point us to the DEV docs, which describes the JSON structure. 
... 

-mario

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