Re: [tw5] Book listing tiddler

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

Tony, I just sent a reply to Mat, not having seen your reply, so I apologise.

OK, I understand it is better to create a new field. So please tell me exactly 
how to do that.

At the bottom of a tiddler there is a box called "field name": if I click on 
that there is a drop-down list to choose from, you cannot add your own field 
name such as "Book".

Next to that there is a box ""field value".

How should I fill in these boxes?

Also, I assume that, for future use, it would also be useful to add field for 
"Author" and "Source".

12 Apr 2020, 03:38 by anthony.mus...@gmail.com:

> Peter
>
> I support mats suggestions but I read that you are not using fields just text 
> entry. Use tags or actual fields to organise your information and all 
> tiddlywikis features become yours to use.
>
> What you ask is possible as is almost anything, but unadvisable.
>
> Once you move these to fields you can then create a tiddler as a view 
> template that contains how to view such a tiddler. Wrap it in a conditional 
> list to show only on books or using tags.
>
> Fieldname: {{!!fieldname}} 
>
> We can give further guidance it you ask.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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[tw5] Re: Tagging with Transclusions?

[Lin Onetwo]

Macro for Transclusion to view original tiddler source:

\define reuse-pane(content).reuse-pane {
position: absolute;
right: 10px;
width: auto;
max-width: 4px;
height: 1.5em;
overflow: hidden;
border: 10px solid transparent;
border-top: 0;
box-sizing: content-box;
transition: max-width 0.5s;
}.reuse-pane:hover {
  max-width: 80vw;
}.reuse-pane-content {
display: inline-block;
background-color: rgba(233, 233, 233, 0.9);
border-left: 4px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.05);
padding: 0px 5px;
padding-bottom: 2px;
}
  $content$
\end

\define reuse-tiddler(title)<$macrocall $name="reuse-pane" content="""
View Source：[[$title$]]
""" />

{{$title$}}

\end


在 2020年4月10日星期五 UTC+8下午12:23:48，Lin Onetwo写道：
>
> I got this idea from https://wiki.hintsnet.com  @pimgeek
>
> 在 2020年4月10日星期五 UTC+8下午12:22:59，LinOnetwo写道：
>>
>> I think you can use a macro to do such transclude, while transcluding, 
>> you also add some color or side note or a "edit me" button to the side.
>>
>> I'm now transcluding using <>
>>
>> with
>>
>> \define reuse-pane(content)
>> 
>>   > style="display:inline-block;background-color:lavender;border-left:3px solid 
>> slateblue;padding-left:5px;">$content$
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define get-tiddler-name(title)
>> <$set name="tid" value="$title$">
>>   <$list filter="[all[current]title]">
>> <$link to=<>>
>>   <$view field="name"><$view field="title"/>
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define get-tiddler-source(title)
>> <$text text={{$title$}} />
>> \end
>>
>> \define get-tiddler-field(title field)
>> <$set name="fid" value="$field$">
>>   <$list variable="fid-val" 
>> filter="[[$title$]get]"><>
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define reuse-tiddler(title)
>> <$macrocall $name="reuse-pane" content="""
>> Edit Source：<>
>> """ />
>>
>> {{$title$}}
>>
>> \end
>>
>> 在 2020年4月10日星期五 UTC+8上午5:15:41，Alex Olsen写道：
>>>
>>> I've thought of a workaround. Sometimes all a seemingly complex problem 
>>> needs is a break and fresh eyes to realize it's not as complex as you're 
>>> making it!
>>>  
>>>
 How does the system know it is an unfinished tiddler (so the 
 transclusion can be applied)? What is the difference between an unfinished 
 and finished tiddler?

>>>
>>> Ideally with a tag. I plan on using 'incomplete' for any tiddler left 
>>> unfinished. I also wanted an array of in-line messages that were easy to 
>>> see, all of which would tag anything that transcludes them they same way. 
>>> These messages would describe the nature of incompleteness. I have no idea 
>>> what these would include. That's the first sign I'm on the wrong track.
>>>
>>> Fundamentally my issue is that I want to have an easy way to organize 
>>> what I need to finish. That's made difficult by the way I'd like to do it: 
>>> a very visible manner which automatically updates a list of tiddlers that 
>>> have the same need for completion.
>>>
>>> Moving forward, I'll be applying an incomplete tag to anything as I 
>>> begin it and remove that tag afterwards. Simple problems require the 
>>> simplest solutions!
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] SVG Editor?

[David]

I love that SVG code can be put into a tiddler and viewed so easily.

Right now I'm using Method Draw for online editing, and it's not bad.
https://editor.method.ac/

But it requires copying and pasting SVG code back and forth.

I wonder if there is a more seamless option?

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[tw5] Re: list tiddlers without links

[Lin Onetwo]

Hi Klaas,

Seems in 
`Sidebar -> More -> Missing `
you can find what you need.

在 2020年4月10日星期五 UTC+8上午12:41:51，Klaas Vaak写道：
>
> I am starting to populate my TW file with most of the tiddlers having 
> internal links i.e. to other ones. But some don’t have those links. 
>
> How can I set up a tiddler that lists those that don’t?

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[tw5] Re: Live Demo: SVG, embedded buttons controlling animations, audio, other widgets embedded

[A Gloom]

good news, FF fixed the break with their implementing system theme-- I can 
use most websites again
 

> An example Idea following your lead is select an avatar icon and then have 
> it create a reusable icon with the name below the icon.


yes many applications-- althoough I'm nowhere near a plugin version, its 
all custom coding I using for intregating wiki widgets with svg framing for 
a full screen 10 pane game UI

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Sebastian Theilhaber]

Na - I'm not. 

Like it too much and invested far far too much...

That would have to be a major earthquake style event...

The save-function-frustration got me at times in the past, but with my 
current arrangement I am quite happy. 
That is: I simply close the tiddler (which will save the file - looking at 
the timestamp) and then "command-s(ave)" the file according to the "tower 
of Hanoi" sequence. 
That works good enough for me. 
I am used to a lot more clicking in the past, so over all, my situation has 
effectively improved. 

I will have no chance of learning any degree of coding in the foreseeable 
future and all comments I read about this over time seem to indicated that 
it's a complex issue to get to work.

Your encouragement is appreciated. 

Cheers, S

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:39:37 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Never Give up on TiddlyWiki without giving these forums the chance to help.
>
> Many of us do not have the problems you face/d because we used other 
> solutions, although I can't comment on the latest MAC OS I am confident, I 
> still have half a dozen workarounds.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 2:35:27 PM UTC+10, Sebastian Theilhaber wrote:
>>
>> Oh man do I hear you...
>>
>> I used to use the file backup from pmario and it's worked for me for 
>> years, however, broke to the point that effectively I had to click through 
>> to save the file- and backup-save every time by hand. 
>>
>> That however completely broke down when moving on to FF74 (I'm a fan of 
>> up-to-date-apps). 
>>
>> However, I found that:
>> A) closing tiddlers / build-in save-function reliably saves the file 
>> every single time,
>> B) hitting "command-s" (since it's a Mac), choosing the "right" 
>> backup-file to replace + enter does it just as well. In fact with 
>> considerably less hassle. 
>>
>> I use the "tower of Hanoi"-method with backups from A to E and just tick 
>> off the on a piece of paper. 
>>
>> Far from ideal (and I find amazing to think that such a great piece of 
>> software lacks THIS really really - from the consumer perspective, because 
>> that's all I CAN be - functionality) but it works well enough for me, in 
>> fact better than the extension...
>>
>> I have been at the brink of "leaving TW behind" a number of times over 
>> the years ONLY because of that. 
>> Only reason (at times) I didn't: no competitor for me (running a server 
>> for a wiki or so is not an option for me). 
>> I have invested A LOT of time in "my" file. It's become very dear and I 
>> take no chances as far as backups are concerned. 
>> I'm also backing up the backups, believe me, you do not ever want to be 
>> in that kind of pain to lost this much of work
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 8:33:51 PM UTC+11, Norm Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Edited again: 3-22-2020 After getting a storm of notifications on 
>>> tiddler regarding saving tiddly files I decided to see what's actually 
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> On https://tiddlywiki.com/ Getting Started I found everything I needed 
>>> to know. I upgraded 5.1.14 to 5.1.21 here 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html without a problem. I routinely use 
>>> Tiddly desktop but also have Timmi and Node.js (which is confusing & 
>>> complicated to me, so I stick with what I know)
>>>
>>> When I originally posted here Firefox had just destroyed their browser, 
>>> v57 leaving the Tiddly team in a mess. They have since resolved these 
>>> issues x10. Firefox and Chrome both are have chosen to develop their 
>>> browsers in a number of ways not friendly to folks who create add-ons or 
>>> products like Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: What is your "philosophy" when using tags and links?

[Sebastian Theilhaber]

Thanks for sharing! this locator plug-in looks wickedly cool...
Have to check that one out. 


On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:13:27 PM UTC+10, Lin Onetwo wrote:
>
> Hi si,
>
> If you install the tw-locator plugin and follow the readme to create a 
> "folder" tab, you can use tab to create folder-like structure. So tag can 
> define the tiddler's location in that "file system"
>
> And for link, they are just quick button to open other file, when you are 
> reading a file.
>
> 在 2020年4月8日星期三 UTC+8下午8:12:56，si写道：
>>
>> I have a feeling that I am not utilizing links as well as I could be so 
>> I'm wondering how others approach using tags and links.
>>
>> Currently I pretty much exclusively use tags to structure my wiki. If you 
>> have ever used "TheBrain" this is basically how I think about my wiki. I 
>> think of every tiddler as a concept that has other higher-level or 
>> lower-level concepts associated with it. Tags simply represent "parent" 
>> tiddlers, just like with the TOC macros.
>>
>> From any tiddler I can jump to parent or sibling tiddlers by clicking on 
>> the tags, and child tiddlers through a list filtered with the tagging 
>> operator.
>>
>> I have found that although I add links to other tiddlers if I happen to 
>> use the title in the text, if I want to explicitly relate two tiddlers I 
>> always do this with tags.
>>
>> As a result I feel that I am not using links as effectively as I can, so 
>> I wondered how other people think about the way that they use these 
>> fundamental features of TW?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Never Give up on TiddlyWiki without giving these forums the chance to help.

Many of us do not have the problems you face/d because we used other 
solutions, although I can't comment on the latest MAC OS I am confident, I 
still have half a dozen workarounds.

Regards
Tony



On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 2:35:27 PM UTC+10, Sebastian Theilhaber wrote:
>
> Oh man do I hear you...
>
> I used to use the file backup from pmario and it's worked for me for 
> years, however, broke to the point that effectively I had to click through 
> to save the file- and backup-save every time by hand. 
>
> That however completely broke down when moving on to FF74 (I'm a fan of 
> up-to-date-apps). 
>
> However, I found that:
> A) closing tiddlers / build-in save-function reliably saves the file every 
> single time,
> B) hitting "command-s" (since it's a Mac), choosing the "right" 
> backup-file to replace + enter does it just as well. In fact with 
> considerably less hassle. 
>
> I use the "tower of Hanoi"-method with backups from A to E and just tick 
> off the on a piece of paper. 
>
> Far from ideal (and I find amazing to think that such a great piece of 
> software lacks THIS really really - from the consumer perspective, because 
> that's all I CAN be - functionality) but it works well enough for me, in 
> fact better than the extension...
>
> I have been at the brink of "leaving TW behind" a number of times over the 
> years ONLY because of that. 
> Only reason (at times) I didn't: no competitor for me (running a server 
> for a wiki or so is not an option for me). 
> I have invested A LOT of time in "my" file. It's become very dear and I 
> take no chances as far as backups are concerned. 
> I'm also backing up the backups, believe me, you do not ever want to be in 
> that kind of pain to lost this much of work
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 8:33:51 PM UTC+11, Norm Davis wrote:
>>
>> Edited again: 3-22-2020 After getting a storm of notifications on tiddler 
>> regarding saving tiddly files I decided to see what's actually going on.
>>
>> On https://tiddlywiki.com/ Getting Started I found everything I needed 
>> to know. I upgraded 5.1.14 to 5.1.21 here 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html without a problem. I routinely use 
>> Tiddly desktop but also have Timmi and Node.js (which is confusing & 
>> complicated to me, so I stick with what I know)
>>
>> When I originally posted here Firefox had just destroyed their browser, 
>> v57 leaving the Tiddly team in a mess. They have since resolved these 
>> issues x10. Firefox and Chrome both are have chosen to develop their 
>> browsers in a number of ways not friendly to folks who create add-ons or 
>> products like Tiddlywiki.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Point a newbie in the right direction? Tiddlywiki as a file database...

[TonyM]

Alex,

This is a very good idea, I have done this in the past but not with 
tiddlywiki.

I have done things like this professionally such as migrating file shares 
to sharepoint,  and its actually quite complex. The Question here is not 
what tiddlywiki can do but what do you need to do to make the data 
available to put into tiddlywiki or anywhere that will satisfy the business 
requirements. I can be engaged professionally but a few incomplete tips;

   - TiddlyWIki may not have access to local content if accessed in the 
   browser, but it does in TiddlyDesktop
   - Does it need local access? not necessarily, you just need to import 
   the required data
   - The name, file type, and location can be easily listed into a file 
   using your operating system, you would have to do this again to capture 
   updates. I don't think this would help that much because you can only 
   search based on filename and folder names.
   - Perhaps what you see on the shared server is not what others see, 
   consider discussing this with the server administrator, perhaps start with 
   the requirements rather than mentioning tiddlywiki as a possible solution.
   - There are dedicated indexing tools that look inside documents as well 
   to improve search, some may already exist in your environment.
   - An informal index of folders with search keywords according to in 
   house practices that determine where to place documents may be a quick win, 
   but it needs to become part of the process in the organisation to maintain 
   it. Although maintenance can be automated.

Large volumes of documents belong in a Document management system rather 
than on such shared drives and folders. However In my own research I see 
tiddlywiki may one day be a smart document that travels with its own 
document management system.

Best of luck
Tony

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:29:09 AM UTC+10, Alex Olsen wrote:
>
> I'm very new to the Tiddlywiki community. To learn the platform as 
> completely as possible, I'm doing a project for work. Smart, right?
>
> I'm in the training department. We have a bunch of stuff we need regular 
> access to. Other stuff we need less frequent access to. Some stuff we need 
> desperately once in a blue moon. Due to the nature of the previous file 
> management system (lets make a folder) it's impossible to find what you 
> need. My intent is to use the wiki framework to help tag documents and give 
> instructions for their use.
>
> The difficult part is how many files are on the shared server (drive? I 
> don't know a lot about networking). Is there a handy way to automate any 
> part of this process? To break it down, each file we need is in a maze of 
> folders. I'd like to set this up with as much automation as possible. I 
> have a few ideas, but don't know if Tiddlywiki has the ability to look 
> through the files around it. That's a feature most of my automation ideas 
> would require.
>
> First step is going to be making a list of the files that need sorting. 
> All I'd really need are name, file type, and location. Then we'd set up 
> some sort of database with that info and call on that database for partial 
> Tiddler Population. Something like a transcluded bit of code that prints 
> the info from the database above a description text the user enters.
>
> Is my rough plan feasible? If so, what resources would you point me 
> towards?
>

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[tw5] Re: Live Demo: SVG, embedded buttons controlling animations, audio, other widgets embedded

[TonyM]

A Gloom

Very interesting - I see how this could be used in many ways. I suppose it 
needs both imagination but also to be broken into its components for 
reassembly as needed, although a number of finished products could be 
created.

   - An example Idea following your lead is select an avatar icon and then 
   have it create a reusable icon with the name below the icon.

Very promising.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 8:59:15 AM UTC+10, A Gloom wrote:
>
> For that example-- a wiki/game logon startup-- could be made a default 
> (start up like Jan's dramatic log on)-- the edit-text widget could be made 
> a logon field
>
> Other uses:
> incorporating wikitext and widgets into svgs
> switching views of a svg, zoom/pan/navigation in a svg, images sequence in 
> a svg
> turning svg animations on & off
> activating animation sequences for a diagram-- showing moving parts of a 
> item diagram with a button
> showing sequenced routes in a map or chart/graph/plot changes over time, 
> controlled by a button
> * a graphical "ToC"/UI for the sidebar 
> * framing button clusters/rows in a visual graphic design frame
> * which I'm putting to use in a full screen 10 pane game UI
>
> the buttons embedded in the svg could be moved outside of the svg and into 
> the tiddler containing and they'll function the same
>

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[tw5] Point a newbie in the right direction? Tiddlywiki as a file database...

[Alex Olsen]

I'm very new to the Tiddlywiki community. To learn the platform as 
completely as possible, I'm doing a project for work. Smart, right?

I'm in the training department. We have a bunch of stuff we need regular 
access to. Other stuff we need less frequent access to. Some stuff we need 
desperately once in a blue moon. Due to the nature of the previous file 
management system (lets make a folder) it's impossible to find what you 
need. My intent is to use the wiki framework to help tag documents and give 
instructions for their use.

The difficult part is how many files are on the shared server (drive? I 
don't know a lot about networking). Is there a handy way to automate any 
part of this process? To break it down, each file we need is in a maze of 
folders. I'd like to set this up with as much automation as possible. I 
have a few ideas, but don't know if Tiddlywiki has the ability to look 
through the files around it. That's a feature most of my automation ideas 
would require.

First step is going to be making a list of the files that need sorting. All 
I'd really need are name, file type, and location. Then we'd set up some 
sort of database with that info and call on that database for partial 
Tiddler Population. Something like a transcluded bit of code that prints 
the info from the database above a description text the user enters.

Is my rough plan feasible? If so, what resources would you point me towards?

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Sebastian Theilhaber]

I'm not sure whether or not you are asking me to share my thoughts on this 
- here they are:

I'm that kind of person who isn't equipped - and doesn't have the time to 
invest - in managing github-stuff.
The readme sounds complicated comparing to my current management (which 
really only involves a couple of clicks & keeping track of the sequence - 
for one file), hence, there is no need for me.
Curiosity could also do it for me but it doesn't sound anything like I 
could enjoy doing, hence, I have intention to try at this point. 

Hope I didn't waste your time, 

Cheers, Sebastian

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:58:02 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The polly project (https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/) has been looking 
> for 
> feedback from Mac users. Polly basically leverages the default download
> saver, restoring your files from the download directory to your original 
> working
> directory. Alas, it uses Powershell as the intermediary tool, which some 
> people
> won't like. The advantages of this approach
>
>
>- No binary executables
>- Human-readable batch script.
>- No special plugins in your TiddlyWiki file
>- No special browser required
>- No browser extension required.
>- No need for node.exe running in background
>- Total size expanded package only 100k
>- Backups as regular file and/or zip to specified directories
>- The ability to "parrot" extra copies to target directories (e.g. a 
>Dropbox folder)
>
> I've been using it on Linux and Windows. The next release (already in the 
> master branch) should
> allow the backup of an entire directory rather than just specified file. 
> Mac may be more restrictive
> with permissions than Linux or Windows. I'm sure at a minimum a user will 
> need to set some
> 744 settings on a launcher file, since that's what I needed on Linux. 
>
> On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 9:35:27 PM UTC-7, Sebastian Theilhaber wrote:
>>
>> Oh man do I hear you...
>>
>> I used to use the file backup from pmario and it's worked for me for 
>> years, however, broke to the point that effectively I had to click through 
>> to save the file- and backup-save every time by hand. 
>>
>> That however completely broke down when moving on to FF74 (I'm a fan of 
>> up-to-date-apps). 
>>
>> However, I found that:
>> A) closing tiddlers / build-in save-function reliably saves the file 
>> every single time,
>> B) hitting "command-s" (since it's a Mac), choosing the "right" 
>> backup-file to replace + enter does it just as well. In fact with 
>> considerably less hassle. 
>>
>> I use the "tower of Hanoi"-method with backups from A to E and just tick 
>> off the on a piece of paper. 
>>
>> Far from ideal (and I find amazing to think that such a great piece of 
>> software lacks THIS really really - from the consumer perspective, because 
>> that's all I CAN be - functionality) but it works well enough for me, in 
>> fact better than the extension...
>>
>> I have been at the brink of "leaving TW behind" a number of times over 
>> the years ONLY because of that. 
>> Only reason (at times) I didn't: no competitor for me (running a server 
>> for a wiki or so is not an option for me). 
>> I have invested A LOT of time in "my" file. It's become very dear and I 
>> take no chances as far as backups are concerned. 
>> I'm also backing up the backups, believe me, you do not ever want to be 
>> in that kind of pain to lost this much of work
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 8:33:51 PM UTC+11, Norm Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Edited again: 3-22-2020 After getting a storm of notifications on 
>>> tiddler regarding saving tiddly files I decided to see what's actually 
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> On https://tiddlywiki.com/ Getting Started I found everything I needed 
>>> to know. I upgraded 5.1.14 to 5.1.21 here 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html without a problem. I routinely use 
>>> Tiddly desktop but also have Timmi and Node.js (which is confusing & 
>>> complicated to me, so I stick with what I know)
>>>
>>> When I originally posted here Firefox had just destroyed their browser, 
>>> v57 leaving the Tiddly team in a mess. They have since resolved these 
>>> issues x10. Firefox and Chrome both are have chosen to develop their 
>>> browsers in a number of ways not friendly to folks who create add-ons or 
>>> products like Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to prevent "This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave - data you have entered may not be saved" ?

[TonyM]

Lin

In the most recent releases there is a save filter that determines when to 
activate autosave or the dirty indicator which says save is necessary and what 
to save.

See $:/core/save/all

The trick will be to change this then save before publishing. I thing an 
independent save method will be needed so you can save or export a copy of the 
wiki without the save settings you change.

Regards
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[tw5] Book listing tiddler

[TonyM]

Peter

I support mats suggestions but I read that you are not using fields just text 
entry. Use tags or actual fields to organise your information and all 
tiddlywikis features become yours to use.

What you ask is possible as is almost anything, but unadvisable.

Once you move these to fields you can then create a tiddler as a view template 
that contains how to view such a tiddler. Wrap it in a conditional list to show 
only on books or using tags.

Fieldname: {{!!fieldname}} 

We can give further guidance it you ask.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Live Demo: SVG, embedded buttons controlling animations, audio, other widgets embedded

[A Gloom]

For that example-- a wiki/game logon startup-- could be made a default 
(start up like Jan's dramatic log on)-- the edit-text widget could be made 
a logon field

Other uses:
incorporating wikitext and widgets into svgs
switching views of a svg, zoom/pan/navigation in a svg, images sequence in 
a svg
turning svg animations on & off
activating animation sequences for a diagram-- showing moving parts of a 
item diagram with a button
showing sequenced routes in a map or chart/graph/plot changes over time, 
controlled by a button
* a graphical "ToC"/UI for the sidebar 
* framing button clusters/rows in a visual graphic design frame
* which I'm putting to use in a full screen 10 pane game UI

the buttons embedded in the svg could be moved outside of the svg and into 
the tiddler containing and they'll function the same

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: a plugin which automatically relinks renamed tiddlers

[Rahul Kashyap]

Dear Flibbles,

Thank you very much. It works beautifully. 

Best,
-Rahul

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 10:27:50 PM UTC-4, Flibbles wrote:
>
> Rahul Kashyap & Kalcifer Kandari,
>
> Macro parameters can now be configured to relink as wikitext as of v1.8.0, 
> released tonight.
>
> Enjoy!
> Flibbles
>
>
> On Saturday, March 14, 2020 at 9:16:35 PM UTC-4, Rahul Kashyap wrote:
>>
>> Dear Flibbles,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for this plugin. This gives another reason to stick with TW 
>> as I've been developing tons of materials here. 
>> However, I was trying to understand how to provide my own custom list for 
>> any particular macro. 
>>
>> For example, I use <> tiddler_name }}" >> macro (from https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/) a 
>> lot in order to maintain a heirarchy of material for graduate materials and 
>> research work for my work (in Physics). 
>> Relink wasn't updating the links and transclusions in the parameters, 
>> sum, and src. How should I make Relink recognize that?  
>>
>> Thanks again,  
>> -Rahul
>>
>> On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 8:26:47 PM UTC-4, Flibbles wrote:
>>>
>>> Version 1.5 released. Macro parameter relinking is now supported. It 
>>> comes with its own whitelist.
>>>
>>> (e.g. <> or <$macrocall $name=myMacro 
>>> param="tiddlerNameToRelink" />)
>>>
>>> Now Relink can rename any kind of WikiText pattern.
>>>
>>> Also, bugfixes.
>>>
>>> -Flibbles
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 10:27:19 PM UTC-4, Flibbles wrote:

 I present Relink !

 It relinks fields, links, WikiLinks, widgets, transclusions, lists, and 
 filters. It's highly customizable, but it will also work out of the box. 
 It's robust, and can handle bizarre name changes. It works through 
 whitelisting, so it doesn't change plaintext instances of a title, or 
 other 
 instances where an updated would be undesirable. It's also well tested 
 (but 
 still really new!!). It should be comprehensive.

 Otherwise, I really hope everyone gets good use out of this. Having 
 written it, I completely understand why this isn't a core feature. It was 
 *hard 
 as crap*! There are so many edge cases! I'm sure more will still crop 
 up.

 *Edit**: It now also supports macros, making it a fully comprehensive 
 relinking plugin.*

 Demo page here .

 Source code here .

 I would absolutely love to get some feedback. I really hope this helps 
 people.

 -Flibbles

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Pre-plugin experiment to get magazine-layout / bootstrap-grid . (Work in progress)

[Jan]

Thanks Mat and Josiah,
it seems tp be the word-break property. Firefox seems to have a 
different default there than chrome and Edge.
word-break: break-word cures this for crome, but I need a trick for the 
Microsoft world. Break-all would work there but the price is too high.
I also neet a trick for text-justify which seems to suffer from similar 
comatibility problems.


So thanks for now, I will have to come back on this.

Best wishes
Jan


It is a drag that browser-issues keep on hasseling the Internet.

Am 11.04.2020 um 19:24 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:

Jan wrote:

... So I'd be happy to hear your ideas for a smoother look.


Hi Jan, small point. I'd change the way the outer borders are done. At 
the moment the far left and right look cramped.


This image should make the issue clearer--its just aesthetics.

Annotation 2020-04-11 192250.jpg



Nice work!

Best wishes
TT
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Re: [tw5] Re: Book listing tiddler

[Mat]

Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>
> OK, so what is the commonality for 1, 2, 3? Do they share a common tag or 
> how are they distinguishable? *There is no commonality between them, they 
> are just titles.*
>
> Fair enough. Then you'll need to list them manually in the listwidget 
(doable, but...) since the system cannot know the difference between such a 
tiddler and any arbitrary tiddler. 

And how can you tell that, say, TiddlerA belongs to Title1 and not to 
> Title2? Does A perhaps have the tag Title1. *Tiddler A belongs to Title 1 
> because on Tiddler A, in the **Book:** field it shows Title 1. No, 
> Tiddler A does NOT have tag Title 1.*
>
>
Aha, fields with the titles. That's critical info.
 

> My spontaneous thought is that it should be 1,2,3 that are tagged "book" 
> because they are books. And A-D should be tagged with the title of the book 
> they belong to. BTW, it is not clear what "tiddler A" refers to in reality. 
> It would be easier to understand if you exemplified your things with actual 
> titles of books, authors etc. *Tiddlers A, B, etc. have 1 tag in common, 
> and it is **book**.*
>
> OK, they also have the book field so that tag will not contribute anything 
further. Just sayin.

 

> *Example:*
>
> *in text area:*
> *The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, 
> while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.*
>
> *below the horizontal line:*
> *Author: Wilhelm Stekel*
> *Source:*
> *Book: Catcher in the Rye, p.?*
> *Remarks: Stekel is quoted*
>
> *tags of this tiddler: book, life, maturity.*
>


OK, so since you say this is tagged "book", I take it this is one of 
"TiddlerA", "TiddlerB" etc.

However, it seems this doesn't really have much to do with the tree 
structure we're discussing, right? The tree structure is what should show 
up in the tiddler titled "Book" which doesn't show this "horizontal line 
section". If my interpretation is correct, then may I just suggest that 
"next time you ask" it's better to ask two separate questions/threads to 
not have the issues confuse one another :-)

OK, for the structure. See if this works:

<$list filter="[[Title 1]] [[Title 2]] [[Title 3]] ">
<$list filter="[book]">
1:<$link to={{!!book}}>
2:<$link/>



Had the titles all shared a common tag it would instead be 
filter="[tag[thetag]]" ... i.e much easier and if you do more lists etc 
then you can use this again ;-)

I made both 1: and 2: because I'm not sure if you wanted a link to the 
Title or to the book. I'm guessing the book, which is the 2:

OK, hope this is of some help.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: formatting tables through a view template

[Robert Mastragostino]

Well that's embarrassing. Thanks, that worked like a charm.

On Friday, 10 April 2020 21:44:22 UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> The Red marker was not showing - try again
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 11:41:26 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Quick tip;
>>
>> See if it works after inserting a blank line after the list
>>
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[paper]]">
>>
>> |!Author:   |{{!!author}}   |
>> |!Author2: |{{!!author2}} |x
>> |!Link:|{{!!url}} |
>> |!Notes:|{{!!notes}} |
>>
>> 
>> Then remove the unwanted blank at the end of the line marked in red.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 11:32:41 AM UTC+10, Robert Mastragostino 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I assume that this is a simple question, but I couldn't find an answer 
>>> in the docs or searching through the forums.
>>>
>>> I have a tiddler type representing an academic paper, tagged with 
>>> "paper", with a few fields as below. I want the display of this tiddler to 
>>> automatically produce a table displaying these fields. To do this I have 
>>> another tiddler viewPaper, tagged as a viewTemplate, containing the 
>>> following:
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[paper]]">
>>> |!Author:   |{{!!author}}   |
>>> |!Author2: |{{!!author2}} | 
>>> |!Link:|{{!!url}} |
>>> |!Notes:|{{!!notes}} |
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the formatting doesn't work, and the paper tiddler just 
>>> appears as though this were written as one line of text (with field 
>>> references correctly filled in). Copy-pasting the table itself into the 
>>> desired tiddler displays exactly as expected, so I don't think this is a 
>>> formatting problem. Is there some other syntax I need to force the display 
>>> to work?
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Pre-plugin experiment to get magazine-layout / bootstrap-grid . (Work in progress)

[TiddlyTweeter]

Hi Jan

I see the "overflow" problem on Chrome (latest). On Firefox the wrapping is 
fine.

Nice work!

TT

On Saturday, 11 April 2020 18:30:11 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
>
> * I thought I had overcome the overflow-problems. For my Firefox its okay. 
> What do you use to reproduce this?
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Book listing tiddler

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

Mat, see my comments in bold below.
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> Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> Title 1
>>    Tiddler A
>>    Tiddler B
>> Title 2
>>    Tiddler C
>> Title 3
>>    Tiddler D
>>
>> whereby Title 1, 2, 3 are book titles, Tiddler A, B, C, D are clickable 
>> tiddler titles, Tiddler A, B, C, D all have 1 tag in common: >> book>> .
>> Ideally the book titles are in alphabetical order, and the tiddler tiles 
>> below each book title too, and the book titles are collapsible.
>>
>
> OK, so what is the commonality for 1, 2, 3? Do they share a common tag or how 
> are they distinguishable? > There is no commonality between them, they are 
> just titles.
> And how can you tell that, say, TiddlerA belongs to Title1 and not to Title2? 
> Does A perhaps have the tag Title1. > Tiddler A belongs to Title 1 because on 
> Tiddler A, in the > Book:>  field it shows Title 1. No, Tiddler A does NOT 
> have tag Title 1.
>
> My spontaneous thought is that it should be 1,2,3 that are tagged "book" 
> because they are books. And A-D should be tagged with the title of the book 
> they belong to. BTW, it is not clear what "tiddler A" refers to in reality. 
> It would be easier to understand if you exemplified your things with actual 
> titles of books, authors etc. > Tiddlers A, B, etc. have 1 tag in common, and 
> it is > book> .
>
Example:

in text area:
The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while 
the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.

below the horizontal line:
Author: Wilhelm Stekel
Source:
Book: Catcher in the Rye, p.?
Remarks: Stekel is quoted

tags of this tiddler: book, life, maturity.

>> BTW, I have modified the lay-out below the horizontal empty template tiddler 
>> as follows:
>>
>
>  Your tree model does not show how your "horizontal empty template" fits in.
>
> <:-)
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Book listing tiddler

[Mat]

Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> Title 1
>Tiddler A
>Tiddler B
> Title 2
>Tiddler C
> Title 3
>Tiddler D
>
> whereby Title 1, 2, 3 are book titles, Tiddler A, B, C, D are clickable 
> tiddler titles, Tiddler A, B, C, D all have 1 tag in common: *book*.
> Ideally the book titles are in alphabetical order, and the tiddler tiles 
> below each book title too, and the book titles are collapsible.
>

OK, so what is the commonality for 1, 2, 3? Do they share a common tag or 
how are they distinguishable?
And how can you tell that, say, TiddlerA belongs to Title1 and not to 
Title2? Does A perhaps have the tag Title1.

My spontaneous thought is that it should be 1,2,3 that are tagged "book" 
because they are books. And A-D should be tagged with the title of the book 
they belong to. BTW, it is not clear what "tiddler A" refers to in reality. 
It would be easier to understand if you exemplified your things with actual 
titles of books, authors etc.

BTW, I have modified the lay-out below the horizontal empty template 
> tiddler as follows:
>

 Your tree model does not show how your "horizontal empty template" fits in.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Woff2 Web fonts and Tiddlywiki 5.1.22p

[Mohammad]

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:05:06 PM UTC+4:30, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le samedi 11 avril 2020 16:13:10 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Yes, like the demo here http://kookma.webfonts.tiddlyspot.com/
>> I also gave a try on FontAwesome  5.1.13 and it works great!
>> I just did a search to find a smaller css file which define classes only 
>> for free fonts and I did not find!!
>>
>> The whole size (all free fonts + class css) is 300kB, only dolid fonts = 
>> 150 kB
>>
>>
> Yes, my previous FontAwesome5.12.1 tid file was 331 kB, and now it's about 
> 284 kB with more icons :-)
>
> Put my tids files here if someone is interesting : 
> https://tw5.xyz/FontAwesome/FontAwesome5.13.0/
>
Lovely! Thank you for sharing!

--Mohammad 

>
>  
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Re: [tw5] Re: Pre-plugin experiment to get magazine-layout / bootstrap-grid . (Work in progress)

[Jan]

Hi Mat,

Thanks, I am trying to track down the bugs.
* The Title-with-spaces-bug is killed, they open correct now.
* I thought I had overcome the overflow-problems. For my Firefox its 
okay. What do you use to reproduce this?


* The controlpanel is a little better but still way from perfect.
* For the Hover-Toolbar: Its no bug, its a feature... but you are right 
its distracting.


Thanks and I hope you keep helping.
Jan


Am 11.04.2020 um 14:25 schrieb Mat:

Cool stuff!

There are, at least on my screen, a few things that need attention. 
Here are some:


  * The text spills out beyond the tiddler edges. One approach would
be to simply cut the overflow (overflow-x:hidden;)
  * Clicking "Article with images" opens page with three tiddlers:
"Article" "with" "images".
  * The images in "Article with imges" do seem to resize but the
Easter Bunny doesn't. Maybe because of the link there.
  * When I click on an article, there's that single tiddler showing
but it appears to be a static tiddler because the toolbar is not
there. ...aha, it is hidden! IMO, for the sake of a demo it
probably makes sense to keep non-demo-specific matters stick to
default TW behaviour or there's risk testers misunderstand it :-)

Keep up the great work! BTW you might be interested in the instruction 
videos and talks 
 given by 
CSS superstar Jen Simmons.


<:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Book listing tiddler

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

Mat, this does not give me what I want. I am looking for a tiddler listing this:

Title 1
   Tiddler A
   Tiddler B
Title 2
   Tiddler C
Title 3
   Tiddler D

whereby Title 1, 2, 3 are book titles, Tiddler A, B, C, D are clickable tiddler 
titles, Tiddler A, B, C, D all have 1 tag in common: book.
Ideally the book titles are in alphabetical order, and the tiddler tiles below 
each book title too, and the book titles are collapsible.

BTW, I have modified the lay-out below the horizontal empty template tiddler as 
follows:

Author:
Source:
Book: The rising sun, p.23Remarks:

"The rising sun, p.23" is an example.
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>> What I would really like is a tiddler that lists the book title (currently 
>> put against Source:) >> and below each book title the tiddlers (as clickable 
>> links) related to it.
>>
>
> What does "related to it" mean? I'll assume you mean any tiddler tagged with 
> the title of that book:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[book]]">
> Source: <$view field=title/>> 
> <$list filter="[tag> > ]">
> <$link/>> 
> 
> 
>
> If this is not what you want, maybe you could show the imagined output and 
> use blue coloring for links.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 5:06:55 PM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> I have a basic template with in the text area:
>>
>> Author:
>> Source:
>> Remarks:
>>
>> Above >> Author>>  there is a horizontal line, above which I add info. Each 
>> time I want to create a new tiddler I clone this empty one.
>>
>> When the info I add is from a book I add the tag >> book>>  to the tiddler. 
>> I also have a tiddler called >> Book>>  which lists all the tiddlers (their 
>> titles as clickable links) with the tag >> book>> .
>>
>> What I would really like is a tiddler that lists the book title (currently 
>> put against Source:) and below each book title the tiddlers (as clickable 
>> links) related to it.
>>
>> How can I achieve that?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

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Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> No, no saver plug-in installed - I did not even know there is such a thing.
>

Ah!  I'd take a look here to get a bit clearer ... 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted

If you need more help to find the right save solution for you do ask!

It does get easier!

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to execute JS on startup? I have a "copy on select" userscript

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thanks Lin,
I added this to TW-Scripts (will appear next month online)


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 8:00 PM Lin Onetwo  wrote:

> Thank you Eric, that works!
>
> And @Mohammad I have updated my userscript, fix some bug in it
>
> // we won't do copy on select on text editor, otherwise you can't select and 
> override text in the editor or text inputfunction 
> checkIfElementIsEditor(element) {
> if (!element || !element.nodeName) return false;
>   const isEditableElement = ['INPUT', 'TEXTAREA', 
> 'BUTTON'].includes(element.nodeName);
> if (!isEditableElement) {
>   if (!element.className || !element.className.toLowerCase) return false;
> }
>   const isTextEditor = element.className.toLowerCase().includes('codemirror');
>
>   return isEditableElement || isTextEditor;
> }// if we start selection on editor, we prevent the following execution of 
> this scriptlet copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy = 
> false;document.addEventListener('mousedown', function onMouseDown() {
>   const elementsUnderMouse = document.querySelectorAll(':hover');
>
>   if (!elementsUnderMouse || 
> Array.from(elementsUnderMouse).some(checkIfElementIsEditor)) {
> copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy = true;
>   }
> });// Copy on select, copy document selection when mouse button is 
> updocument.addEventListener('mouseup', function onMouseUp() {
>   const elementsUnderMouse = document.querySelectorAll(':hover');
>
>   if (
> copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy ||
> !elementsUnderMouse ||
> Array.from(elementsUnderMouse).some(checkIfElementIsEditor)
>   ) {
> copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy = false;
> return;
>   }
>   document.execCommand('copy');
> });
>
>
> 在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8下午4:26:04，Eric Shulman写道：
>>
>> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:08:15 AM UTC-7, Lin Onetwo wrote:
>>>
>>> I found $:/tags/StartupAction/Browser will only execute tiddlywi
>>> actions, but can't execute javascript.
>>> But I have following JS want to execute:
>>> What could I do?
>>> I'm currently using WebcataLog to inject Userscript before wiki loading
>>>
>>
>> 1) added  ...  around your code
>> 2) tag the tiddler with $:/tags/RawMarkup
>> 3) save-and-reload your document
>>
>> What this does is to add the content of the tagged tiddler to the bottom
>> of the  section of the document.
>> This allows your JS code to be invoked as soon as the document is loaded,
>> even before the TWCore wiki is initialized
>>
>> (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTag%3A%20%24%3A%2Ftags%2FRawMarkup)
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
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[tw5] Re: Book listing tiddler

[Mat]

>
> What I would really like is a tiddler that lists the book title (currently 
> put against Source:) *and below each book title the tiddlers (as 
> clickable links) related to it.*


What does "related to it" mean? I'll assume you mean any tiddler tagged 
with the title of that book:

<$list filter="[tag[book]]">
Source: <$view field=title/>
<$list filter="[tag]">
<$link/>




If this is not what you want, maybe you could show the imagined output and 
use blue coloring for links.

<:-)

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 5:06:55 PM UTC+2, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> I have a basic template with in the text area:
>
> Author:
> Source:
> Remarks:
>
> Above *Author* there is a horizontal line, above which I add info. Each 
> time I want to create a new tiddler I clone this empty one.
>
> When the info I add is from a book I add the tag *book* to the tiddler. I 
> also have a tiddler called *Book* which lists all the tiddlers (their 
> titles as clickable links) with the tag *book*.
>
> What I would really like is a tiddler that lists the book title (currently 
> put against Source:) and below each book title the tiddlers (as clickable 
> links) related to it.
>
> How can I achieve that?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

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No, no saver plug-in installed - I did not even know there is such a thing.

When I make a change to my TW file, whether by amending/creating a tiddler or 
by installing a plug-in, there comes a point where I have to save the amended 
TW file for which one clicks on the red tick in the right hand pane. Fine.

But after installing or uninstalling a plug-in one has to "reload", which is 
done by clicking on the red circular arrow. And that is where the problem 
arises because if, before reloading one has also made some amendments to 
tiddlers, the reloaded/refreshed file does not show those amendments.
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11 Apr 2020, 18:27 by tiddlytwee...@assays.tv:

> I'm not sure I'm understanding what you are doing. My impression is its as 
> Mark S. says?
>
> Do you have any saver plugin installed? 
>
> TT
>
> On Saturday, 11 April 2020 15:46:22 UTC+2, Mark S.  wrote:
>
>> It sounds like you're using the default saver mechanism. The file that is 
>> saved is different than the version in the tab. If the browser reloads, it 
>> will be the old version because the browser doesn't know that you want the 
>> downloaded version.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 4:37:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I work with a local file.
>>>
>>> I have now established the following:
>>> if you use the circular arrow in the right hand pane for reloading, the 
>>> cache will reload. If, instead of doing that you close your TW tab and 
>>> relaunch the TW file from the folder, you get the right version.
>>> I have disabled that reload/refresh button so I will be forced to launch 
>>> from the folder.
>>>
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[tw5] Re: How to execute JS on startup? I have a "copy on select" userscript

[Lin Onetwo]

Thank you Eric, that works!

And @Mohammad I have updated my userscript, fix some bug in it

// we won't do copy on select on text editor, otherwise you can't select and 
override text in the editor or text inputfunction 
checkIfElementIsEditor(element) {
if (!element || !element.nodeName) return false;
  const isEditableElement = ['INPUT', 'TEXTAREA', 
'BUTTON'].includes(element.nodeName);
if (!isEditableElement) {
if (!element.className || !element.className.toLowerCase) return false;
}
  const isTextEditor = element.className.toLowerCase().includes('codemirror');

  return isEditableElement || isTextEditor;
}// if we start selection on editor, we prevent the following execution of this 
scriptlet copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy = 
false;document.addEventListener('mousedown', function onMouseDown() {
  const elementsUnderMouse = document.querySelectorAll(':hover');

  if (!elementsUnderMouse || 
Array.from(elementsUnderMouse).some(checkIfElementIsEditor)) {
copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy = true;
  }
});// Copy on select, copy document selection when mouse button is 
updocument.addEventListener('mouseup', function onMouseUp() {
  const elementsUnderMouse = document.querySelectorAll(':hover');

  if (
copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy ||
!elementsUnderMouse ||
Array.from(elementsUnderMouse).some(checkIfElementIsEditor)
  ) {
copyOnSelectPreventNextCopy = false;
return;
  }
  document.execCommand('copy');
});


在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8下午4:26:04，Eric Shulman写道：
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:08:15 AM UTC-7, Lin Onetwo wrote:
>>
>> I found $:/tags/StartupAction/Browser will only execute tiddlywi 
>> actions, but can't execute javascript. 
>> But I have following JS want to execute:
>> What could I do?
>> I'm currently using WebcataLog to inject Userscript before wiki loading
>>
>
> 1) added  ...  around your code
> 2) tag the tiddler with $:/tags/RawMarkup
> 3) save-and-reload your document
>
> What this does is to add the content of the tagged tiddler to the bottom 
> of the  section of the document.
> This allows your JS code to be invoked as soon as the document is loaded, 
> even before the TWCore wiki is initialized
>
> (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTag%3A%20%24%3A%2Ftags%2FRawMarkup)
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

[TiddlyTweeter]

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you are doing. My impression is its as 
Mark S. says?

Do you have any saver plugin installed? 

TT

On Saturday, 11 April 2020 15:46:22 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It sounds like you're using the default saver mechanism. The file that is 
> saved is different than the version in the tab. If the browser reloads, it 
> will be the old version because the browser doesn't know that you want the 
> downloaded version.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 4:37:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> Yes, I work with a local file.
>>
>> I have now established the following:
>> if you use the circular arrow in the right hand pane for reloading, the 
>> cache will reload. If, instead of doing that you close your TW tab and 
>> relaunch the TW file from the folder, you get the right version.
>> I have disabled that reload/refresh button so I will be forced to launch 
>> from the folder.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Live Demo: SVG, embedded buttons controlling animations, audio, other widgets embedded

[TiddlyTweeter]

Very interesting!

Looks promising. But what is it for? Entry to a game? A secret enclave?

TT

On Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:00:02 UTC+2, A Gloom wrote:
>
> Just a quick demo posted at the Discord channel
> http://pyewackit.net/ash/empty1.html
>
> An in-tiddler svg with:
>  -- embedded buttons
>  -- -- for instruction modal
>  -- -- for initiating svg animations and audio to accompany the animations
>  -- with an additional embedded widget
>
> NOTE: Chrome doesn't seem to like the transclusion of svg animation 
> elements so it won't show animations
>
> The "i" button has an instruction modal
>
> scaling is off I know, just threw it together with a svg I already had 
> made (still recovering so haven't the time to refine it properly)
>
> EXPLAINATION:
>
> The button initates svg element animations (by transclusion of animation 
> elements into the svg) and accompanying audio file tiddlers with each of 
> the 3 clicks, the 3rd reseting the animation to a non-animated state (no 
> transclusions of animation elements).
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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

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OK, I understand Sylvain. Thanks a lot for your help :-)
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11 Apr 2020, 18:21 by sil...@gmail.com:

>
>
> Le samedi 11 avril 2020 16:42:38 UTC+2, Peter Buyze a écrit :
>
>> I use the red tick button in the right hand pane to save the file. TW asks  
>> me where I want to save it, so I point it to the folder I want it in.
>>
>> I know there is that saving every 5 mins. but I don't how that works and 
>> where TW would save those intermediate saves, although it would be useful to 
>> know.
>>
>
>
> On regular single html file, If you don't click on red tick button, you have 
> no saving. There is no saving every 5 minutes.
>
> After reading your last post, I do repeat : when your browser ask you were to 
> save, you can choose the same file if you want create n copies (but it's good 
> to have backup too). So if you write over existing file, the reload button 
> should be fine, since you have correctly save your last modification on the 
> same file.
>
> Hope this help.
>
> (to prevent this, many of us use browser extension to auto-save).
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

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Le samedi 11 avril 2020 16:42:38 UTC+2, Peter Buyze a écrit :
>
> I use the red tick button in the right hand pane to save the file. TW 
> asks  me where I want to save it, so I point it to the folder I want it in.
>
> I know there is that saving every 5 mins. but I don't how that works and 
> where TW would save those intermediate saves, although it would be useful 
> to know.
>


On regular single html file, If you don't click on red tick button, you 
have no saving. There is no saving every 5 minutes.

After reading your last post, I do repeat : when your browser ask you were 
to save, you can choose the same file if you want create n copies (but it's 
good to have backup too). So if you write over existing file, the reload 
button should be fine, since you have correctly save your last modification 
on the same file.

Hope this help.

(to prevent this, many of us use browser extension to auto-save).

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[tw5] How to prevent "This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave - data you have entered may not be saved" ?

[Lin Onetwo]

I've set up a wiki in now.sh , only for viewing, not expect for online 
editing.

But everytime I open https://wiki.onetwo.ren/ and scroll for a while, and 
try to close the window, it tells me there is something changed and don't 
want me go. In fact I haven't change anything.

How to debug what tiddler have changed?

Or is there a way to disable saver when I package nodejs wiki to html wiki 
using tiddlywiki cli?

I'm also curious why https://tiddlywiki.com/ don't have a red "saver" icon 
when I open it, but my wiki does...

I guess it might be tiddlymap updating tmap.id ...

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

LinOnetwo, thanks for the suggestion.

I manually moved the original html file out of the Downloads folder into a 
folder of my choosing. I have set my browser to ask me each time when I click 
on save where it should save to. So, from that point of view I have no 
problems, I think.

What I discovered today is that when I want to refresh/reload and click on the 
circular arrow button in the right hand pane, TW or the browser chooses to open 
the cached (= old) version. That's why I have disabled the circular arrow 
button, so now, if I want the latest version, I am forced to go to the folder 
of the various saved TW versions and choose the latest.

I my humble opinion as a TW newbie I think the circular arrow button is 
misconfigured.
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11 Apr 2020, 18:06 by lindongw...@gmail.com:

> Hi, Peter:
>
> as long as you are using MacOS, you can use my solution to auto move html 
> file from download folder to a git repo, and auto backup it to github:
>
> See
>
> https://github.com/linonetwo/Meme-of-LinOnetwo/blob/455e6a21bb/serveAndWatchHTML.js
>  and 
> https://github.com/linonetwo/Meme-of-LinOnetwo/blob/455e6a21bb/scripts/installHTMLWatcher.sh
>
> 在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8下午5:20:24，Peter Buyze写道：
>
>> I am a bit confused and concerned about this.
>>
>> I have a folder where I save TW to. Each time I save TW it does not replace 
>> the existing file, it creates a new one. So, let's my TW file is called 
>> Peter. When I make changes to it, then save it, it is saved as Peter(1). If 
>> I then continue using Peter and save it again, the file is saved as Peter(2).
>>
>> This is great because it works as a sort of "Time Machine" allowing you to 
>> go back to an earlier version, contrary to say a Word document, which, each 
>> time you save it, it replaces the existing version in the folder, so you 
>> cannot go back to a previous version like with TW.
>>
>> However, I have noticed that sometimes when I close the TW file and reopen 
>> it the changes are not there. I may be doing something wrong. Is there 
>> something that is obvious to anyone, or am I just being dense, or not 
>> careful?
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[tw5] Book listing tiddler

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

I have a basic template with in the text area:

Author:
Source:
Remarks:

Above Author there is a horizontal line, above which I add info. Each time I 
want to create a new tiddler I clone this empty one.

When the info I add is from a book I add the tag book to the tiddler. I also 
have a tiddler called Book which lists all the tiddlers (their titles as 
clickable links) with the tag book.

What I would really like is a tiddler that lists the book title (currently put 
against Source:) and below each book title the tiddlers (as clickable links) 
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[tw5] Re: Saving TW

[Lin Onetwo]

Hi, Peter:

as long as you are using MacOS, you can use my solution to auto move html 
file from download folder to a git repo, and auto backup it to github:

See

https://github.com/linonetwo/Meme-of-LinOnetwo/blob/455e6a21bb/serveAndWatchHTML.js
 
and 
https://github.com/linonetwo/Meme-of-LinOnetwo/blob/455e6a21bb/scripts/installHTMLWatcher.sh

在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8下午5:20:24，Peter Buyze写道：
>
> I am a bit confused and concerned about this.
>
> I have a folder where I save TW to. Each time I save TW it does not 
> replace the existing file, it creates a new one. So, let's my TW file is 
> called Peter. When I make changes to it, then save it, it is saved as 
> Peter(1). If I then continue using Peter and save it again, the file is 
> saved as Peter(2).
>
> This is great because it works as a sort of "Time Machine" allowing you to 
> go back to an earlier version, contrary to say a Word document, which, each 
> time you save it, it replaces the existing version in the folder, so you 
> cannot go back to a previous version like with TW.
>
> However, I have noticed that sometimes when I close the TW file and reopen 
> it the changes are not there. I may be doing something wrong. Is there 
> something that is obvious to anyone, or am I just being dense, or not 
> careful?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

I use the red tick button in the right hand pane to save the file. TW asks  me 
where I want to save it, so I point it to the folder I want it in.

I know there is that saving every 5 mins. but I don't how that works and where 
TW would save those intermediate saves, although it would be useful to know.

In any case, I don't use the reload button anymore.
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> It sounds like you're using the default saver mechanism. The file that is 
> saved is different than the version in the tab. If the browser reloads, it 
> will be the old version because the browser doesn't know that you want the 
> downloaded version.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 4:37:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> Yes, I work with a local file.
>>
>> I have now established the following:
>> if you use the circular arrow in the right hand pane for reloading, the 
>> cache will reload. If, instead of doing that you close your TW tab and 
>> relaunch the TW file from the folder, you get the right version.
>> I have disabled that reload/refresh button so I will be forced to launch 
>> from the folder.
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[tw5] Re: Woff2 Web fonts and Tiddlywiki 5.1.22p

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 16:13:10 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :
>
>
> Yes, like the demo here http://kookma.webfonts.tiddlyspot.com/
> I also gave a try on FontAwesome  5.1.13 and it works great!
> I just did a search to find a smaller css file which define classes only 
> for free fonts and I did not find!!
>
> The whole size (all free fonts + class css) is 300kB, only dolid fonts = 
> 150 kB
>
>
Yes, my previous FontAwesome5.12.1 tid file was 331 kB, and now it's about 
284 kB with more icons :-)

Put my tids files here if someone is interesting : 
https://tw5.xyz/FontAwesome/FontAwesome5.13.0/
 

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[tw5] Re: Other Calendar and date system in Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad]

Hi Mario,

Thanks for clarification!

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On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:31:20 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 3:41:37 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> You may know there are different types of calendar! See 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_calendars
>>
>> Tiddlywiki at the moment only shows time/date in tiddler subtitle as 
>> *Georgian 
>> Calendar*.
>> Is there any settings / features in Tiddlywiki to show/use other Calendar 
>> system like Jalali, Hijri, ...
>>
>
> There is no other calendar built into TW or even the browser. ... So  we 
> would need a 3rd party library. 
>  
>
>> I am not sure if localization like Tiddlywiki language pack change this 
>> or not?
>>
>
> no
>
> -m
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

[Ste Wilson]

I've always assumed it was browser cache... I sometimes have the same problem 
using tiddly spot.. Make a change on phone... Open up on work computer and get 
the version of my wiki I last had on that machine. I mostly remember to hit the 
refresh button before I do anything new... Though occasionally I have to delve 
into the tiddly spot backups. 

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[tw5] Re: Woff2 Web fonts and Tiddlywiki 5.1.22p

[Mohammad]

Hi Sylvain!

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 5:51:13 PM UTC+4:30, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
> Just try with the latest FontAwesome 5.13.0 with success :)
> It's much easier to encode in base64 like before!
>
It is like a drag and drop now :-)
 

Yes, like the demo here http://kookma.webfonts.tiddlyspot.com/
I also gave a try on FontAwesome  5.1.13 and it works great!
I just did a search to find a smaller css file which define classes only 
for free fonts and I did not find!!

The whole size (all free fonts + class css) is 300kB, only dolid fonts = 
150 kB
 

>
> Thanks again Mohammad for letting us know what's new in 5.1.22 :)
>
> Hopefully I will discover :) :) something new!

-Mohammad

 

> Sylvain
>
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[tw5] Re: Other Calendar and date system in Tiddlywiki

[PMario]

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 3:41:37 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> You may know there are different types of calendar! See 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_calendars
>
> Tiddlywiki at the moment only shows time/date in tiddler subtitle as 
> *Georgian 
> Calendar*.
> Is there any settings / features in Tiddlywiki to show/use other Calendar 
> system like Jalali, Hijri, ...
>

There is no other calendar built into TW or even the browser. ... So  we 
would need a 3rd party library. 
 

> I am not sure if localization like Tiddlywiki language pack change this or 
> not?
>

no

-m

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[tw5] Live Demo: SVG, embedded buttons controlling animations, audio, other widgets embedded

[A Gloom]

Just a quick demo posted at the Discord channel
http://pyewackit.net/ash/empty1.html

An in-tiddler svg with:
 -- embedded buttons
 -- -- for instruction modal
 -- -- for initiating svg animations and audio to accompany the animations
 -- with an additional embedded widget

NOTE: Chrome doesn't seem to like the transclusion of svg animation 
elements so it won't show animations

The "i" button has an instruction modal

scaling is off I know, just threw it together with a svg I already had made 
(still recovering so haven't the time to refine it properly)

EXPLAINATION:

The button initates svg element animations (by transclusion of animation 
elements into the svg) and accompanying audio file tiddlers with each of 
the 3 clicks, the 3rd reseting the animation to a non-animated state (no 
transclusions of animation elements).

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It sounds like you're using the default saver mechanism. The file that is 
saved is different than the version in the tab. If the browser reloads, it 
will be the old version because the browser doesn't know that you want the 
downloaded version.



On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 4:37:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:

> Yes, I work with a local file.
>
> I have now established the following:
> if you use the circular arrow in the right hand pane for reloading, the 
> cache will reload. If, instead of doing that you close your TW tab and 
> relaunch the TW file from the folder, you get the right version.
> I have disabled that reload/refresh button so I will be forced to launch 
> from the folder.
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[tw5] Other Calendar and date system in Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad]

You may know there are different types of calendar! See 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_calendars

Tiddlywiki at the moment only shows time/date in tiddler subtitle as *Georgian 
Calendar*.
Is there any settings / features in Tiddlywiki to show/use other Calendar 
system like Jalali, Hijri, ...

I am not sure if localization like Tiddlywiki language pack change this or 
not?



I appreciate if you share your thoughts/plugins/codes...


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Pre-plugin experiment to get magazine-layout / bootstrap-grid . (Work in progress)

[Julio Peña]

Hello Jan,

I'm sure there are way better elegant solutions out there.

Take a look at my site to see how I have mine:
http://jpentw5.tiddlyspot.com/

Find my grid framework: $:/.jp/css/framework/grid

Maybe it can help you pick up any ideas(?).

Regards,
Julio

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[tw5] TitlePicker - a standalone component for EditorMagic

[Mat]

OK, as noted when I presented 
 it, 
EditorMagic is not ready for prime time. So, I'll take it one step at a 
time - here is: 

TitlePicker 

It's supposed to be somewhat comparable to the regular tag picker, i.e in 
the editor you type e.g [[foo and get suggestions for all tiddlers starting 
with the "fragment" foo (e.g tiddlers foo and foobar). If you click a 
suggestion, say foobar, the [[foo is replaced with [[foobar]]. 

In spite of much effort it only works "to some extent". Now, it is made 
with only *two, fairly small, tiddlers*: the EditTemplate and the 
TitlePicker, so I'd really appreciate any help you can give.

Please test around and see what you think.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: How to execute JS on startup? I have a "copy on select" userscript

[Mohammad]

Hi @Lin
 Nice code! I tested as Eric explained and works great!
A good functionality!

--Mohammad

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 11:38:15 AM UTC+4:30, Lin Onetwo wrote:
>
> I found $:/tags/StartupAction/Browser will only execute tiddlywi actions, 
> but can't execute javascript.  
> But I have following JS want to execute:
>
> // we won't do copy on select on text editor, otherwise you can't select and 
> override text in the editor or text inputfunction 
> checkIfElementIsEditor(element) {
>   if (!element || !element.className || !element.className.toLowerCase || 
> !element.nodeName) return false;
>   const isEditableElement = ['INPUT', 'TEXTAREA'].includes(element.nodeName);
>
>   const isTextEditor = element.className.toLowerCase().includes('codemirror');
>
>   return isEditableElement || isTextEditor;
> }// Copy on select, copy document selection when mouse button is 
> updocument.addEventListener('mouseup', function onMouseUp() {
>   const elementsUnderMouse = document.querySelectorAll(':hover');
>
>   if (!elementsUnderMouse || 
> Array.from(elementsUnderMouse).some(checkIfElementIsEditor)) return;
>   document.execCommand('copy');
> });
>
>
>
> What could I do?
>
> I'm currently using WebcataLog to inject Userscript before wiki loading
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: EditorMagic - the editor as an assistant

[Mat]

Lin Onetwo wrote:
>
> In notion's latest version, when you type / , a dowpdown menu full of 
> searchable macros are shown at caret position. Several other note app also 
> adapt this design. If you can achieve this, it would be great!
>

I have a thread here 
 that 
hopefully leads to somewhere.
 

And maybe I can help with Regex, I'm quite good at that.
>
How do you develop your plugin? I didn't find the Github link.
>

Your help is more than welcome! 
I do my work directly in TW. Typically directly on tiddlyspot. I made 
SideEditor  to let me see the output 
"live", but it definitely has flaws. One day EditorMagic will help even 
more ;-)

I have decided to deal with one issue at a time so the first "magic" to get 
to work is *title completion *so I set up http://titlepicker.tiddlyspot.com It 
works to some extent but the regexps need improvement... or maybe it is the 
way the string operators work in TW. I can't quite tell. I'll start a new 
thread and I hope you can participate.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Pre-plugin experiment to get magazine-layout / bootstrap-grid . (Work in progress)

[Mat]

Cool stuff!

There are, at least on my screen, a few things that need attention. Here 
are some:


   - The text spills out beyond the tiddler edges. One approach would be to 
   simply cut the overflow (overflow-x:hidden;)
   - Clicking "Article with images" opens page with three tiddlers: 
   "Article" "with" "images".
   - The images in "Article with imges" do seem to resize but the Easter 
   Bunny doesn't. Maybe because of the link there.
   - When I click on an article, there's that single tiddler showing but it 
   appears to be a static tiddler because the toolbar is not there. ...aha, it 
   is hidden! IMO, for the sake of a demo it probably makes sense to keep 
   non-demo-specific matters stick to default TW behaviour or there's risk 
   testers misunderstand it :-) 

Keep up the great work! BTW you might be interested in the instruction videos 
and talks  given 
by CSS superstar Jen Simmons.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

Yes, I work with a local file.

I have now established the following:
if you use the circular arrow in the right hand pane for reloading, the cache 
will reload. If, instead of doing that you close your TW tab and relaunch the 
TW file from the folder, you get the right version.
I have disabled that reload/refresh button so I will be forced to launch from 
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11 Apr 2020, 14:20 by sil...@gmail.com:

>
>
> Le samedi 11 avril 2020 11:20:24 UTC+2, Peter Buyze a écrit :
>
>>
>> I have a folder where I save TW to. Each time I save TW it does not replace 
>> the existing file, it creates a new one. So, let's my TW file is called 
>> Peter. When I make changes to it, then save it, it is saved as Peter(1). If 
>> I then continue using Peter and save it again, the file is saved as Peter(2).
>>
>>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Are you working with a local file ?
>
> And then, if you work with standard save of TW, it depend on your browser 
> setting, with save to your download folder for example. If you change to ask 
> you where to save, you'll be replace existing file if you want.
>
>
> Sylvain
>
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[tw5] Re: Saving TW

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 11:20:24 UTC+2, Peter Buyze a écrit :
>
>
> I have a folder where I save TW to. Each time I save TW it does not 
> replace the existing file, it creates a new one. So, let's my TW file is 
> called Peter. When I make changes to it, then save it, it is saved as 
> Peter(1). If I then continue using Peter and save it again, the file is 
> saved as Peter(2).
>
>
Hi Peter,

Are you working with a local file ?

And then, if you work with standard save of TW, it depend on your browser 
setting, with save to your download folder for example. If you change to 
ask you where to save, you'll be replace existing file if you want.


Sylvain

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[tw5] Re: Unable to save to GitHub

[PMario]

Hi Michael,

My working settings panel looks like this.


may be this helps. ... After saving you need to wait a little bit with 
reloading. Depending on github workload it will take some time until the 
gh-page is updated. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Freelinks plugin

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

Sylvain, merci beaucoup, thanks a lot.
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11 Apr 2020, 13:51 by sil...@gmail.com:

>
>
> Le samedi 11 avril 2020 09:52:22 UTC+2, Peter Buyze a écrit :
>
>> TonyM, you mention this plugin in a comment to Si on this page
>> https://groups.google.com/>> forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/>> 
>> hhk8MDW4t90/Uu-3w7ngAQAJ
>>
>> Can you tell where I can find this plug-in please?
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> Hi Peter,
>
> Tony refer to prerelease 5.1.22 version : > https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
>
> New Freelinks Plugin
>
> Added 
> >
>   new > freelinks>  plugin to automatically create links from any tiddler 
> title, without having to type double square brackets or use > CamelCase 
> > .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Sylvain
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[tw5] Re: Unable to save to GitHub

[Michael Park]

Hi Sylvain,

That worked! I feel silly that I didn't try this before I posted.

Thanks for your help here.

Mike


On Saturday, 11 April 2020 11:46:45 UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le samedi 11 avril 2020 11:52:54 UTC+2, Michael Park a écrit :
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I am having problems getting to TiddlyWiki to automatically save to 
>> GitHub .
>>
>> I've set up this GitHub repository 
>>  to store my TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I've also set up a personal access token for TiddlyWiki, as required.
>>
>> TiddlyWiki is set to automatically save, but this does not appear to be 
>> working.
>>
>> When I click the red save button, the browser downloads a copy of the 
>> file.
>>
>> I have tried in latest versions of Chrome and Safari on macOS (Catalina).
>>
>> Can any offer any pointers to help me get this working?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>
>
> Hi,
> Maybe set Path to target file to / ?
>
> (don't see here : https://mrmpark.github.io/)
>
>
> Sylvain
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[tw5] Re: Freelinks plugin

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 09:52:22 UTC+2, Peter Buyze a écrit :
>
> TonyM, you mention this plugin in a comment to Si on this page
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/hhk8MDW4t90/Uu-3w7ngAQAJ
>
> Can you tell where I can find this plug-in please?
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Hi Peter,

Tony refer to prerelease 5.1.22 version : https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/


New Freelinks Plugin

Added 

 
new *freelinks* plugin to automatically create links from any tiddler 
title, without having to type double square brackets or use CamelCase 
.



Cheers,

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

Mat, reading the exchange on the Github page you link to, it seems to me it is 
a cache issue.
I have just relaunched Chromium from the terminal with a command to disable the 
cache, and will see if that avoids the issue. If it does, fine, but it is a 
workaround and is not the way it should be.
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11 Apr 2020, 12:44 by matiasg...@gmail.com:

> Yes, that is a big problem if it happens (or, even worse, it happens but you 
> don't even notice). It sounds like the same issue that I report > here 
> > .
> The way around it, which is definitely not optimal, is to hold down the Shift 
> key as the page is loaded. If it was already loaded with old version, then 
> refresh+Shiftkey.
> What system+browser are you using? I find it happens less frequently with 
> Chrome than with FF on my Win machine.
>
> <:-)
>
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[tw5] Re: Unable to save to GitHub

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 11:52:54 UTC+2, Michael Park a écrit :
>
> Hi there,
>
> I am having problems getting to TiddlyWiki to automatically save to GitHub 
> .
>
> I've set up this GitHub repository 
>  to store my TiddlyWiki.
>
> I've also set up a personal access token for TiddlyWiki, as required.
>
> TiddlyWiki is set to automatically save, but this does not appear to be 
> working.
>
> When I click the red save button, the browser downloads a copy of the file.
>
> I have tried in latest versions of Chrome and Safari on macOS (Catalina).
>
> Can any offer any pointers to help me get this working?
>
> Thank you
>


Hi,
Maybe set Path to target file to / ?

(don't see here : https://mrmpark.github.io/)


Sylvain

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[tw5] Pre-plugin experiment to get magazine-layout / bootstrap-grid . (Work in progress)

[Jan]

 Hello Community,
based on Mat's idea I have made an experiment with a responsive 
bootstrap grid . The intention is to give an overview when starting 
TiddlyWiki. When pressing the read more button you open the chosen story 
in the normal Layout. The basic design derives from here: 
https://codepen.io/Everybodyknows/pen/RwNyeoo 

I want to share this proof of concept to have your feedback before 
turning it into a plugin.

So I hope you  already enjoy.

https://szenio.de/Grid/

 * It gives a good overview at startup... and then returns to an
   efficient workspace.
 * It opens configurable stories in the storyriver
 * It can be configured with a control-panel (which still has some
   design-problems ;-)
 * You can easily define synopsis for the grid


To make it really good there are some things I would like to add 
especially in formatting the articles. So I'd be happy to hear your 
ideas for a smoother look.


Alternative Stylesheets are very welcome.

Best wishes Jan

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[tw5] Unable to save to GitHub

[Michael Park]

Hi there,

I am having problems getting to TiddlyWiki to automatically save to GitHub 
.

I've set up this GitHub repository 
 to store my TiddlyWiki.

I've also set up a personal access token for TiddlyWiki, as required.

TiddlyWiki is set to automatically save, but this does not appear to be 
working.

When I click the red save button, the browser downloads a copy of the file.

I have tried in latest versions of Chrome and Safari on macOS (Catalina).

Can any offer any pointers to help me get this working?

Thank you

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Re: [tw5] Re: Saving TW

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

I am on MacOS Mojave 10.14.6 and am using Ungoogled Chromium.

I have not created many tiddlers yet as I am still exploring TW, but this is 
definitely very scary, esp. if I sometimes notice it by accident.
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> Yes, that is a big problem if it happens (or, even worse, it happens but you 
> don't even notice). It sounds like the same issue that I report > here 
> > .
> The way around it, which is definitely not optimal, is to hold down the Shift 
> key as the page is loaded. If it was already loaded with old version, then 
> refresh+Shiftkey.
> What system+browser are you using? I find it happens less frequently with 
> Chrome than with FF on my Win machine.
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Saving TW

[Mat]

Yes, that is a big problem if it happens (or, even worse, it happens but 
you don't even notice). It sounds like the same issue that I report here 
.
The way around it, which is definitely not optimal, is to hold down the 
Shift key as the page is loaded. If it was already loaded with old version, 
then refresh+Shiftkey.
What system+browser are you using? I find it happens less frequently with 
Chrome than with FF on my Win machine.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: using <$list filter= statement and have display items with hyperlink

[Lin Onetwo]

I personally use this in my Tag tiddler to show all tiddler with this tag:

<$macrocall $name="locator-view" baseTitle=<> />

It comes with hyperlink

在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8上午11:51:45，Bob Jansen写道：
>
> I am trying to set upan index page for items that all share a common tag.
>
> The statement I am using is
>  
> <$list filter="[tag[Andrew C Frank]sort[title]]">* <$view field="title"/><
> br/>
>
> This displays a list of tiddlers each with the tag 'Andrew C Frank' and 
> each item has an * in front so it appears as a bulleted list.
>
> I would like each tiddler name to also have a hyperlink back to its owning 
> tiddler but I can not fathom out how to do that.
>
> Can someone provide some clues?
>
> bobj
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[tw5] Saving TW

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

I am a bit confused and concerned about this.

I have a folder where I save TW to. Each time I save TW it does not replace the 
existing file, it creates a new one. So, let's my TW file is called Peter. When 
I make changes to it, then save it, it is saved as Peter(1). If I then continue 
using Peter and save it again, the file is saved as Peter(2).

This is great because it works as a sort of "Time Machine" allowing you to go 
back to an earlier version, contrary to say a Word document, which, each time 
you save it, it replaces the existing version in the folder, so you cannot go 
back to a previous version like with TW.

However, I have noticed that sometimes when I close the TW file and reopen it 
the changes are not there. I may be doing something wrong. Is there something 
that is obvious to anyone, or am I just being dense, or not careful?
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[tw5] Re: How to execute JS on startup? I have a "copy on select" userscript

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:08:15 AM UTC-7, Lin Onetwo wrote:
>
> I found $:/tags/StartupAction/Browser will only execute tiddlywi actions, 
> but can't execute javascript. 
> But I have following JS want to execute:
> What could I do?
> I'm currently using WebcataLog to inject Userscript before wiki loading
>

1) added  ...  around your code
2) tag the tiddler with $:/tags/RawMarkup
3) save-and-reload your document

What this does is to add the content of the tagged tiddler to the bottom of 
the  section of the document.
This allows your JS code to be invoked as soon as the document is loaded, 
even before the TWCore wiki is initialized

(see https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTag%3A%20%24%3A%2Ftags%2FRawMarkup)

enjoy,
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Re: [tw5] Just wanted to say this

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

I wholeheartedly agree. I am new here and to TW but am amazed at the 
friendliness and quality of advice.
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11 Apr 2020, 10:54 by shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com:

> After wasting about 2 days on something I thought to myself, 'if it had been 
> TW, I would have asked on the group and received 3 solutions to one problem'.
>
> Seriously, this group is the best and I am not just saying it superficially. 
> The whole culture is different, its friendly and personable. 
>
> Nobody says, first show us what you have worked on, did you read this, did 
> you read that? Show us a dump of your logs, your OS, your browser, and your 
> medical history and your police record and your home inspection report and 
> what not. People here just help you out. Period.
>
> Thank you all.
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[tw5] Re: Just wanted to say this

[Lin Onetwo]

I'm also get this feeling when I have problem, so I will try my best to 
help others too.

在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8下午3:54:08，passingby写道：
>
> After wasting about 2 days on something I thought to myself, 'if it had 
> been TW, I would have asked on the group and received 3 solutions to one 
> problem'.
>
> Seriously, this group is the best and I am not just saying it 
> superficially. The whole culture is different, its friendly and personable. 
>
> Nobody says, first show us what you have worked on, did you read this, did 
> you read that? Show us a dump of your logs, your OS, your browser, and your 
> medical history and your police record and your home inspection report and 
> what not. People here just help you out. Period.
>
> Thank you all.
>

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[tw5] Re: using <$list filter= statement and have display items with hyperlink

[PMario]

Hi Bob,

Have a look here: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links%20Macro:%5B%5Blist-links%20Macro%5D%5D%20%5B%5Blist-links%20Macro%20(Examples)%5D%5D

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[tw5] Just wanted to say this

[passingby]

After wasting about 2 days on something I thought to myself, 'if it had 
been TW, I would have asked on the group and received 3 solutions to one 
problem'.

Seriously, this group is the best and I am not just saying it 
superficially. The whole culture is different, its friendly and personable. 

Nobody says, first show us what you have worked on, did you read this, did 
you read that? Show us a dump of your logs, your OS, your browser, and your 
medical history and your police record and your home inspection report and 
what not. People here just help you out. Period.

Thank you all.

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[tw5] Freelinks plugin

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

TonyM, you mention this plugin in a comment to Si on this page
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/hhk8MDW4t90/Uu-3w7ngAQAJ

Can you tell where I can find this plug-in please?
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[tw5] How to execute JS on startup? I have a "copy on select" userscript

[Lin Onetwo]

I found $:/tags/StartupAction/Browser will only execute tiddlywi actions, 
but can't execute javascript. 

But I have following JS want to execute:

// we won't do copy on select on text editor, otherwise you can't select 
and override text in the editor or text input
function checkIfElementIsEditor(element) {
  const isEditableElement = ['INPUT', 
'TEXTAREA'].includes(element.nodeName);
  const isTextEditor = (element.className || 
'').toLowerCase().includes('codemirror');

  return isEditableElement || isTextEditor;
}
// Copy on select, copy document selection when mouse button is up
document.addEventListener('mouseup', function onMouseUp() {
  const elementsUnderMouse = document.querySelectorAll(':hover');
  console.log(elementsUnderMouse);

  if (!elementsUnderMouse || 
Array(elementsUnderMouse).some(checkIfElementIsEditor)) return;
  document.execCommand('copy');
});


What could I do?

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[tw5] Re: using <$list filter= statement and have display items with hyperlink

[Mohammad]

Bob,
 When you have got great solution one simpler is the below

<>


OR

<> 



if you like numbered list instead of bullet list!


More info: Tiddlywiki List Links 


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[tw5] Re: Is there a plugin to Syntax Highlighting the wikitext in codemirror?

[Mohammad]

Not related to CodeMirror but TW5 syntax highlighting


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/viVm1itMGI0


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On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:25:20 AM UTC+4:30, Lin Onetwo wrote:
>
> Oh, seems its already been discussed here 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/JG7bDM-eMeU/Gemy_hDx9LcJ  
> . I was searched using wrong keywords.
>
> 在 2020年4月11日星期六 UTC+8上午11:48:19，Lin Onetwo写道：
>>
>> There is syntax highlighting for JS, HTML and classic tw2 wikitext, even 
>> Markdown, but seems codemirror editor won't highlight tw5 wikitext when we 
>> writing `[[xxx]]` or `!! xxx` in the editor.
>>
>> Is it possible to highlight the syntax when we writing wikitext and macro?
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: a plugin which automatically relinks renamed tiddlers

['Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki]

OK Tony, Mohammad, I understand.
Many thanks.
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11 Apr 2020, 09:23 by anthony.mus...@gmail.com:

> Peter
>
> Many of us have dozens of wikis with different plugins. You rarely need to 
> update them, more often you need to update the core to access a new feature. 
> occasionally you may see something odd and that's when you can look for 
> relevant update.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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[tw5] Re: formatting tables through a view template

[Mohammad]

Shiraz dynamic table is one simple and quick solution!
See it here: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/

Dynamic 
table: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables

Or the more powerful: TiddlyTables

--Mohammad

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 6:02:41 AM UTC+4:30, Robert Mastragostino 
wrote:
>
> I assume that this is a simple question, but I couldn't find an answer in 
> the docs or searching through the forums.
>
> I have a tiddler type representing an academic paper, tagged with "paper", 
> with a few fields as below. I want the display of this tiddler to 
> automatically produce a table displaying these fields. To do this I have 
> another tiddler viewPaper, tagged as a viewTemplate, containing the 
> following:
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[paper]]">
> |!Author:   |{{!!author}}   |
> |!Author2: |{{!!author2}} | 
> |!Link:|{{!!url}} |
> |!Notes:|{{!!notes}} |
>
> 
>
> Unfortunately the formatting doesn't work, and the paper tiddler just 
> appears as though this were written as one line of text (with field 
> references correctly filled in). Copy-pasting the table itself into the 
> desired tiddler displays exactly as expected, so I don't think this is a 
> formatting problem. Is there some other syntax I need to force the display 
> to work?
>

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[tw5] Re: using <$list filter= statement and have display items with hyperlink

[TonyM]

There is the list-links macro as well. Look it up on tiddlywiki.com

However I use the list more often as I then customise further.

<$list filter="yourfilter">



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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: a plugin which automatically relinks renamed tiddlers

[TonyM]

Peter

Many of us have dozens of wikis with different plugins. You rarely need to 
update them, more often you need to update the core to access a new feature. 
occasionally you may see something odd and that's when you can look for 
relevant update.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Show Title of Tiddler with some Chars Trimmed from Front of String

[David]

Thanks so much!  The remove prefix was perfect!

Inside the link tags I put...

{{{ [removeprefix[Sled: Snow:]]}}}

Thanks!

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:52:22 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> David
>
> First a short form of your above code is
> '<$link />' if item in the currentToddler
>
> but if you have the prefix you want to remove you can follow this code 
> pattern and alter for your use case.
>
> '<$link to=<> >{{{ 
> [all[current]removeprefix[prefix]]}}}`
>
> Or you can put the triple braces in a text widget..
>
> It all depends on what is available to you to remove the prefix. You could 
> try split[:]last[]
>
> a little more info would help.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
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