[tw5] Re: Alternatives to ... treepad and others

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I used the wayback machine to find this quote:

"one of the most imitated programs on the Web since 1995"

So, it had a long run, I suppose. It does illustrate the dangers of 
single-owner proprietary software.

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 7:13:30 PM UTC-7, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Mark S,
>
> I found a review of Treepad from 1999. 
>  That was 
> around the time I started using it, but it is even older. Do you know when 
> the first version were released?
>
> Birthe
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Alternatives to ... treepad and others

[Birthe C]

Mark S,

I found a review of Treepad from 1999. 
 That was 
around the time I started using it, but it is even older. Do you know when 
the first version were released?

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Tip for new and experienced users - easy access to the viewTemplate [Good for new users?]

[TW Tones]

Even more examples

REVOLUTION?
<$edit field=caption/>
If you place this in the local-viewtemplate you can edit the fieldname 
inline, in viewtemplate without focus issues

<$edit-text field="description" size=80 placeholder="Describe this 
tiddler"/>
Or use the more sophisticated edit-text widget.

Regards
TW Tones


On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 9:19:05 AM UTC+10, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The viewTemplate is a great way to get content or macros to be active on a 
> tiddler without using your text field to include macros and templates. This 
> leaves the text field free for the information you are composing. See 
> elsewhere for how to use the view template.
>
> *I just made this simple view template* to make displaying things on a 
> tiddler much easier. This helps for learning, debugging, and proto-typing 
> something you may later place in the view template. See the examples below, 
> it is a great way to learn.
>
> *You will be amazed at the possibilities*
>
> Once installed all you need to do is create a local-viewtemplate field on 
> any tiddler, and its value will be displayed in the view template for that 
> tiddler only
>
> *Remember The content of the field will be rendered so you can;*
>
>- Include wikitext, buttons, transclusions, widgets, variables and 
>more in your local-viewtemplate field
>- Helps when debugging or prototyping
>- This content does not appear when transcluding the current tiddler 
>from elsewhere, although it could be if desired.
>
> *Other tips*
>
>- Use `` for line breaks
>- Transclude with mode block to bring in multi-line content from 
>elsewhere
>
>
> Create a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate containing the following;
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]has[local-viewtemplate]get[local-viewtemplate]]" 
> variable=field-value>
> <>
> 
> Also Attached for your convenience
>
> You can use the `<>` pill to reorder this or 
> add a list-before/list-after field to set where it appears on the view 
> template, by default it will be at the bottom.
>
> *Examples,* try these in your local-viewtemplate one or more at a time
> ''Hi'' there
>
> [[more]]
>
> {{TableOfContents}}
>
> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}
>
> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}
>
> {{||$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags}}
>
> {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/home}}
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
>
> *Feedback*
>
>- Let me know here if this is helpful, if their is a call for it, I 
>can make a multi-line text field work with this.
>- Share any examples you develop by sharing the content of the 
>local-viewtemplate you used similar to my examples above, describe what it 
>does (I have not intentionally to get you to experiment)
>
> Regards
> TW Tones
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: list-links-inline - show lists in prose

[TW Tones]

Mat,

Cute and actually helps with one of my bug bears, Deciding to change the 
order after writing.

I can count <> <>

The steps may as well have their own tiddlers.

I always whished there were an editor shortcut that could reorder such 
lists from entered text, but this is the next best thing, and possibly 
better in Tiddlywiki where tiddlers are king.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> The TWaddler presents yet another thing that will have been forgotten when 
> you eventually need it:
>
> list-links-inline 
>
> "...is an alternative to the common list-links macro. It presents the 
> list as "prose"
>  - i.e *inline*, comma separated and with an 'and' before the last item."
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Tip for new and experienced users - easy access to the viewTemplate [Good for new users?]

[TW Tones]

More Examples

Caption: {{!!caption}}Description: {{!!description}}




{{||$:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/Fields}}


<><$list 
filter="[all[shadows+system]tag[$:/tags/TiddlerInfo]] 
-[[$:/core/ui/TiddlerInfo/Tools]]"><$transclude/>


Please share your own!

TW Tones




On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 9:19:05 AM UTC+10, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The viewTemplate is a great way to get content or macros to be active on a 
> tiddler without using your text field to include macros and templates. This 
> leaves the text field free for the information you are composing. See 
> elsewhere for how to use the view template.
>
> *I just made this simple view template* to make displaying things on a 
> tiddler much easier. This helps for learning, debugging, and proto-typing 
> something you may later place in the view template. See the examples below, 
> it is a great way to learn.
>
> *You will be amazed at the possibilities*
>
> Once installed all you need to do is create a local-viewtemplate field on 
> any tiddler, and its value will be displayed in the view template for that 
> tiddler only
>
> *Remember The content of the field will be rendered so you can;*
>
>- Include wikitext, buttons, transclusions, widgets, variables and 
>more in your local-viewtemplate field
>- Helps when debugging or prototyping
>- This content does not appear when transcluding the current tiddler 
>from elsewhere, although it could be if desired.
>
> *Other tips*
>
>- Use `` for line breaks
>- Transclude with mode block to bring in multi-line content from 
>elsewhere
>
>
> Create a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate containing the following;
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]has[local-viewtemplate]get[local-viewtemplate]]" 
> variable=field-value>
> <>
> 
> Also Attached for your convenience
>
> You can use the `<>` pill to reorder this or 
> add a list-before/list-after field to set where it appears on the view 
> template, by default it will be at the bottom.
>
> *Examples,* try these in your local-viewtemplate one or more at a time
> ''Hi'' there
>
> [[more]]
>
> {{TableOfContents}}
>
> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}
>
> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}
>
> {{||$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags}}
>
> {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/home}}
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
> <>
>
>
> *Feedback*
>
>- Let me know here if this is helpful, if their is a call for it, I 
>can make a multi-line text field work with this.
>- Share any examples you develop by sharing the content of the 
>local-viewtemplate you used similar to my examples above, describe what it 
>does (I have not intentionally to get you to experiment)
>
> Regards
> TW Tones
>

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[tw5] Tip for new and experienced users - easy access to the viewTemplate [Good for new users?]

[TW Tones]

Folks,

The viewTemplate is a great way to get content or macros to be active on a 
tiddler without using your text field to include macros and templates. This 
leaves the text field free for the information you are composing. See 
elsewhere for how to use the view template.

*I just made this simple view template* to make displaying things on a 
tiddler much easier. This helps for learning, debugging, and proto-typing 
something you may later place in the view template. See the examples below, 
it is a great way to learn.

*You will be amazed at the possibilities*

Once installed all you need to do is create a local-viewtemplate field on 
any tiddler, and its value will be displayed in the view template for that 
tiddler only

*Remember The content of the field will be rendered so you can;*

   - Include wikitext, buttons, transclusions, widgets, variables and more 
   in your local-viewtemplate field
   - Helps when debugging or prototyping
   - This content does not appear when transcluding the current tiddler 
   from elsewhere, although it could be if desired.

*Other tips*

   - Use `` for line breaks
   - Transclude with mode block to bring in multi-line content from 
   elsewhere


Create a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate containing the following;
<$list 
filter="[all[current]has[local-viewtemplate]get[local-viewtemplate]]" 
variable=field-value>
<>

Also Attached for your convenience

You can use the `<>` pill to reorder this or 
add a list-before/list-after field to set where it appears on the view 
template, by default it will be at the bottom.

*Examples,* try these in your local-viewtemplate one or more at a time
''Hi'' there

[[more]]

{{TableOfContents}}

{{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}

{{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}

{{||$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags}}

{{$:/core/ui/Buttons/home}}

<>

<>

<>

<>

<>


*Feedback*

   - Let me know here if this is helpful, if their is a call for it, I can 
   make a multi-line text field work with this.
   - Share any examples you develop by sharing the content of the 
   local-viewtemplate you used similar to my examples above, describe what it 
   does (I have not intentionally to get you to experiment)

Regards
TW Tones

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Local View Template.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Presenting: list-links-inline - show lists in prose

[PMario]

Hi, 
Cool stuff!
-m

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[tw5] Re: Alternatives to ... treepad and others

[Birthe C]

Mark S,

Good idea. But this is treepad, the simple free and old one. That did not 
change much over the years and can still be downloaded from everywhere. 
That could explain the competition. Small and do not do much.
(Compared to Tiddlywiki of course)

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Plugin prototype: Command Palette

[Adam S.]

Hello Souk21!

Thank you for the update, the improvements are great - giving back focus is 
very handy! I'm glad you liked my fork and I'm very happy you ended up 
using it as a starting point, the end result is great! :) It was my 
pleasure to help you with this!


"About your numbered shortcuts idea, would it be a way to select results ? 
(1 for 1st result, 2 for 2nd,...) or would it be user customizable 
shortcuts?"

Either way would be awesome, but I'd prefer the latter because then the 
shortcuts wouldn't mean different things at different times (so one could 
get used to a setup) while if they are assigned as their position in the 
list they jump around because the list is updated and lists what you used 
last and in this way it'd force you to read the list and find your shortcut 
- this way it slows the operation down. (I don't know how hard it is to 
implement so feel free to disregard this part in brackets {perhaps not 
either or but both, with the option to choose from the two in settings]) 
This only makes sense in the commands area of the plugin not the tiddler 
search and filter, because those have numbers to them. 
I just realized that I could probably make this happen myself if I modify 
the names, for example  "close all tiddlers" to "1, close all tiddlers" and 
it would jump there without any code required. I just tried it out and it 
works. Including the number doesn't make it impossible to search among the 
commands with type, but if I learn my numbers I don't need to.
This makes my original request moot. But if its not too much work, I think 
the " a way to select results (1 for 1st result, 2 for 2nd,..."  could be 
useful, but since it'd work on the search field too it'd need to have a 
modifier key next to it, like ctrl+1 for example. Although hitting the down 
arrow three times is not that big of a deal. So its okay if this idea gets 
forgotten.


I have a new feature idea to consider: when we open command palette and it 
gives results I tihnk it could be a useful thing if hitting the right arrow 
key would copy the text from the selected item in the list below to the 
input field where we write (so for example when one has tiddler 1, tiddler 
2, tiddler 3 ... tiddler 15  and you search for tid, you have the list of 
them, you can either write it out or use the down arrow to get to the 
number you want, but in this case if you could hit the right arrow to get 
the name of tiddler 1 you could then easily get to 15 by writing 5 after 
the copied text, which is better than writing out the whole title. This 
would save more time on a longer tiddler titles. obviously. Also, I believe 
it can be useful with non-numbered tiddlers too but they made my point very 
easily.) 



On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:49:30 AM UTC+2, Souk21 wrote:
>
> Hi Reet, I posted a thread in TWDev (
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/6nU5W3bQSY0) asking 
> for help about this issue.
>
> Le vendredi 26 juin 2020 04:37:13 UTC+2, Reet Pandher a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Souk,
>>
>> Any luck fixing the *save wiki *command?
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:31:47 PM UTC+5:30, Souk21 wrote:
>>>
>>> New version 0.0.4 is up! 
>>> New:
>>> - Theming
>>>   - Themes now follow your current color palette (thanks to Adam S!)
>>>   - New Compact theme
>>>   - New setting to change theme
>>>   - Deleted "smoothScroll" setting
>>> - Added '>See Story List' command to list opened tiddlers
>>> - Insert result (ctrl+shift+I)
>>>
>>> Fixed:
>>> - Fixed selection not being recognized in text fields
>>> - Command palette now correctly gives back focus 
>>> - Improved 'Welcome' tiddler
>>>
>>> Good news!
>>> I realized the issue I had with TW text fields was not about how they 
>>> update. It was about being in iframes (don't know how I missed that).
>>> Fortunately it was a really easy fix!
>>> It enabled me to fix a bug with 'selection mode' as well as add a new 
>>> 'insert shortcut'. 
>>> As a bonus, it also helped with the palette giving back keyboard focus to 
>>> text fields!
>>>
>>> There's still some design decisions to make, for example, should the 
>>> palette insert results as links when possible? (I'm thinking yes)
>>>
>>> I'm still thinking about how acting on the current tiddler should work, so 
>>> anyone with any input on that subject should chime in :)
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think !
>>>
>>> @Mohammad @TiddlyTweeter: I'm sorry I didn't get the time to implement the 
>>> filter operation history, but it's high on the todo list :)
>>> I also like the idea of having common operations available. Maybe a setting 
>>> could be switchable between 'history' and 'common operations' ?
>>>
>>> @Guido B: Interesting! Thanks for the heads up :) I'll check if I can make 
>>> transpiling/polyfilling part of the process.
>>>
>>> @TW Tones: You can already do that :)
>>> For example: '<$action-sendmessage $message="open-command-palette" 
>>> $param=">"/>' will open the 

[tw5] Re: Presenting: field value selector

[Mat]

What's your TW version? It must be recent enough to accept the following 
command:

<$link/>

If you put this in a tiddler, does this render the name of the tiddler or 
does it not render anything? If it doesn't render anything - you should 
upgrade your TW.

<:-)

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[tw5] Alternatives to ... treepad and others

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Apparently back in October 2019, Treepad, a much-loved note-taking software 
disappeared. The owner/operator had already eliminated all community 
support years ago, so when the site disappeared, the whole project 
disappeared. It shows the perils of proprietary, single-owner software.

When you do a search for "alternative to Treepad" and other products, you 
are very likely to end up at 

  https://alternativeto.net/software/treepad/

I've just added TiddlyWiki as an alternative. TiddlyWiki currently has 219 
"likes", which on my screen positions it 5th on the list. Not sure how that 
works, since there are other products with higher ratings lower on the 
list. Still, #5 is respectable. If you don't mind making yet another 
account, consider visiting the site and giving TW an upvote.

It is likely there are other products for which TW would be a good 
alternative, so if you happen to think of them, you might add TW to them as 
well. Or, possibly you could suggest them here and I could add them 
(assuming I don't disagree ;-) ). Obviously, the more real "upvotes" the 
better.

Thanks!



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[tw5] Re: Presenting: field value selector

[Cyrill]

Mat, 
it concern every field and only special character I use in the values is 
"-" between, p.e. in that form  "BGB - 242".
I use the "drift" edition, recently assembled here,  with some plugins. I 
tested to disable all plugins, but it seem to have no positive effect...
 
Mat schrieb am Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2020 um 20:22:17 UTC+2:

> UPDATED - I changed all enclosing quotes for triple quotes which could 
> have an effect. If this doesn't solve your problem then I suspect you have 
> funny characters in your fields. BTW, does it only fail for "gesetz" 
> specifically or is it for all field names?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: I promise I searched for this answer

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 6:39:18 AM UTC-7, Daniel Zion wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for the link to that page on the filters. I hadn't messed with the 
> Advanced Search yet, but that does seem like an easier place to try out 
> some filters. I created the tiddlers in order, so February first on though 
> June, so I don't think it was that. Reading TW's reply, it seems like I 
> didn't understand what fields were included, or how they were formatted. 
>
>
I would need to see the actual tiddlers to know what's going on. The 
sorting algorithm is pretty accurate, so at the moment I have to assume 
that one or more of the items were created out of order.

As an experiment, you can create a tiddler and tag it with 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate , with the following contents:

{{!!created}}

This will display the created date on every tiddler. Then you can look at 
the tiddlers that are out of order and see if the title date stamp matches 
the created date stamp. When you're done, you can delete the viewtemplate 
tiddler.

Good luck!

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[tw5] Presenting: list-links-inline - show lists in prose

[Mat]

The TWaddler presents yet another thing that will have been forgotten when 
you eventually need it:

list-links-inline 

"...is an alternative to the common list-links macro. It presents the list 
as "prose"
 - i.e *inline*, comma separated and with an 'and' before the last item."

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: I promise I searched for this answer

[Daniel Zion]

Mark,

Thanks for the link to that page on the filters. I hadn't messed with the 
Advanced Search yet, but that does seem like an easier place to try out 
some filters. I created the tiddlers in order, so February first on though 
June, so I don't think it was that. Reading TW's reply, it seems like I 
didn't understand what fields were included, or how they were formatted. 

TW,

I guess in my searching I didn't see other people having similar issues. Or 
at least the titles seemed different enough that I didn't open the 
discussions. I have added your json and will see how that works. The 
content of my $:/config/NewJournal/title tiddler was:  MM DDTH. 
Thankfully I'm not too far into using Tiddlywiki, so manually adding the 
date field for the ones I have shouldn't take too long. 

Thanks so much for your reply and work on that add-in.

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 8:19:53 PM UTC-4, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> This is an example of a re-occurring issue with the standard distributions 
> "new journal and new journal here feature". Created an Modified dates are 
> not the journal date, and given all manor of title dates that can be set in 
> $:/config/NewJournal/Title 
>  people 
> like Daniel can build a substantial journal and find it hard to use the 
> title to deal with listing.
>
> My attached json modified new journal and new journal here to add a 
> journal-date to journal entries to a more robust date field for listing 
> exists. I must revisit how to submit core changes for this.
>
> Daniel,
> The answers to you questions would be simpler if the journal-date field 
> existed on your journal tiddlers.
>
> If you tell us what the journal tiddlers title format is from $:/
> config/NewJournal/Title 
>  and you 
> used this consistently, I*/*we can give you a batch button to update all 
> existing journal entries to include a journal-date field.
>
> If you install my attachment the journal-date will be created going 
> forward.
>
> Including the journal-date also allows one to post future and past 
> journals.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 12:20:12 AM UTC+10, Daniel Zion wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I started using Tiddlywiki in February for a commonplace book kind of 
>> thing. I like the journal aspect, but I'm having a problem with organizing 
>> it. I have a "Journal List" tiddler that has the very simple 
>> <>
>>
>> to display all of my journal tiddlers. I've run into two issues that I 
>> can't seem to find an answer for. First, this organizes the list by the 
>> title alphabetically, not by date. What could I add that puts them by date? 
>> I use ISO 8601 for my dates, so it's useable as is, but it would be nice to 
>> get them right.
>>
>> Second, how could I limit it to only show year 2020? I might end up using 
>> this for a while and wouldn't want a massive list of journal tiddlers if I 
>> could have a "Journal List 202x" for each year. 
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generic button with Dropdown?

[TW Tones]

Thanks Saq. Getting me rolling on this.

My mind is buzzing with the possibilities.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Preview tiddlers like in tiddlymap?

[Jon]

Just when you think things can't get any better - awesome! 
Thanks Mat!

Regards
Jon

On Friday, 26 June 2020 11:31:30 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Sure. For the following solution, you'd have to use the ListWidget instead 
> of the short form {{{...}}} syntax. Thus:
>
> <$list filter="""[tag[journal]!sort[created]]""">
> 
>   <$link/>
>   
> <$transclude mode=block/>
>   
> 
> 
>
> ...and you'll need a stylesheet, something like so:
>
> title: Stylesheet/hover-to-show
> tags: $:/tags/Stylesheet
> type: text/css
> text:
> .hover-to-show {display:inline-block;
> }
> .hover-to-show-inner {
>   display:none;
>   margin-left:2em;
>   z-index:1000
> }
> .hover-to-show:hover .hover-to-show-inner {
>   display:block;
>   position:absolute;
>   background:white;
>   max-width:300px;
>   outline:2px solid silver;
>   padding:5px;
> }
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Generic button with Dropdown?

[Saq Imtiaz]

I'm still not clear if you want the view toolbar/control panel related 
aspects of the "more" dropdown on or not.

A generic example of a dropdown button would be this from the RevealWidget 
docs:

<$button popup="$:/SamplePopupState">Pop me up!

<$reveal type="popup" state="$:/SamplePopupState">


! This is the popup
And this is some text





The toolbar "more" button has the same pattern, but the logic for what to 
display for each button (icons/text) is more complex so that it respects 
the settings from the ControlPanel. If you intend for your button to behave 
exactly the same as the core view toolbar buttons, then the "more" button 
is a good example. All of the extra logic and complexity is needed, except 
maybe the check against config-title

Hope this helps,
Saq

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 12:44:49 PM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Saq
>
> I took your reply seriously and read your links provided more than once.
>
> I think taking the more button as an example may have been a bad idea. 
> Despite deep expiernce elsewhere I have spent little time on popups, and 
> don't know them in html either.
>
> Clearly I need more time on task and to teach myself. 
>
> More is only special in it has a drop down and lives in the toolbar, and 
> has toolbar options in control panel. 
>
> If there is no generic example I will teach myself. Thanks anyway.
>
> Tones
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generic button with Dropdown?

[TW Tones]

Saq

I took your reply seriously and read your links provided more than once.

I think taking the more button as an example may have been a bad idea. Despite 
deep expiernce elsewhere I have spent little time on popups, and don't know 
them in html either.

Clearly I need more time on task and to teach myself. 

More is only special in it has a drop down and lives in the toolbar, and has 
toolbar options in control panel. 

If there is no generic example I will teach myself. Thanks anyway.

Tones

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[tw5] Re: Preview tiddlers like in tiddlymap?

[Mat]

Sure. For the following solution, you'd have to use the ListWidget instead 
of the short form {{{...}}} syntax. Thus:

<$list filter="""[tag[journal]!sort[created]]""">

  <$link/>
  
<$transclude mode=block/>
  



...and you'll need a stylesheet, something like so:

title: Stylesheet/hover-to-show
tags: $:/tags/Stylesheet
type: text/css
text:
.hover-to-show {display:inline-block;
}
.hover-to-show-inner {
  display:none;
  margin-left:2em;
  z-index:1000
}
.hover-to-show:hover .hover-to-show-inner {
  display:block;
  position:absolute;
  background:white;
  max-width:300px;
  outline:2px solid silver;
  padding:5px;
}


<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Generic button with Dropdown?

[Saq Imtiaz]

I'll repeat my question: what is it that you find unique about the more 
button as compared to the examples given on TiddlyWiki.com for a popup 
triggered by a button? 

Have you looked at the link in my previous post and read the examples for 
the reveal widget?

The content of the popup is the content of the reveal widget used for it. 
What you put in there is up to you. Where exactly is the unnecessary 
complexity?

I use dropdown buttons like this all the time. There isn't something 
noteworthy or groundbreaking about that, unless there is some unique 
feature of the "more" button that I am not understanding. If so please 
point it out.

The examples at https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget are an excellent 
starting point.

The following all use the same paradigm and the contents are determined by 
filters operating on fields:








On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 11:38:25 AM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Saq
>
> An example would be making additional buttons that work like the more 
> buttons. Perhaps driven via an alternate tag. An example may be a drop down 
> appearing on task tiddlers that list buttons relevant to tasks.
>
> Another would be setting any tiddler to a particular type so that it can 
> be built from a template and have particular view / edit templates 
> activated. E.g. make this tiddler include streams, or notowrity etc...
>
> The core dropdowns are a little more complex than they need to be so I am 
> looking for a more generic solution if it exists and an alternate tag for 
> the members of the drop down, if not keeping the view toolbar tag for the 
> top button. 
>
> Of course I may need to reengineer the existing more buttons, although I 
> would have expected someone had already done it.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Microsoft Teams and Tiddlywiki

[TW Tones]

Please see prior posts and replies of mine on SharePoint as tony says its just 
SharePoint.

Tw tones aka tonym

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[tw5] Re: Generic button with Dropdown?

[TW Tones]

Saq

An example would be making additional buttons that work like the more buttons. 
Perhaps driven via an alternate tag. An example may be a drop down appearing on 
task tiddlers that list buttons relevant to tasks.

Another would be setting any tiddler to a particular type so that it can be 
built from a template and have particular view / edit templates activated. E.g. 
make this tiddler include streams, or notowrity etc...

The core dropdowns are a little more complex than they need to be so I am 
looking for a more generic solution if it exists and an alternate tag for the 
members of the drop down, if not keeping the view toolbar tag for the top 
button. 

Of course I may need to reengineer the existing more buttons, although I would 
have expected someone had already done it.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Microsoft Teams and Tiddlywiki

[tony]

I think the TiddlyWiki should work like any other document.

Changing the extension from wiki.html to wiki.aspx used to work on 
Sharepoint, but I haven't done that in a while.

A Teams channel should be able to store this in the Files tab of the 
General channel which is just window dressing for the underlying sharepoint.

Best,
tony

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:13:04 AM UTC-7, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> As work is moving away from moodle to MS teams I was wondering if anybody 
> had any experiance of using tiddlywiki with it. I know I can upload a wiki 
> in a chat and it can be viewed, but not eddited (Tw does the RSofE). I 
> know/ think teams is integrated with share point but that's something I've 
> never really engaged with. 
> So... Any tips/ tricks/ plugins for making team TW life better? 
>

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[tw5] Re: Plugin prototype: Command Palette

[Souk21]

Hi Reet, I posted a thread in TWDev (
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/6nU5W3bQSY0) asking 
for help about this issue.

Le vendredi 26 juin 2020 04:37:13 UTC+2, Reet Pandher a écrit :
>
> Hi Souk,
>
> Any luck fixing the *save wiki *command?
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:31:47 PM UTC+5:30, Souk21 wrote:
>>
>> New version 0.0.4 is up! 
>> New:
>> - Theming
>>   - Themes now follow your current color palette (thanks to Adam S!)
>>   - New Compact theme
>>   - New setting to change theme
>>   - Deleted "smoothScroll" setting
>> - Added '>See Story List' command to list opened tiddlers
>> - Insert result (ctrl+shift+I)
>>
>> Fixed:
>> - Fixed selection not being recognized in text fields
>> - Command palette now correctly gives back focus 
>> - Improved 'Welcome' tiddler
>>
>> Good news!
>> I realized the issue I had with TW text fields was not about how they 
>> update. It was about being in iframes (don't know how I missed that).
>> Fortunately it was a really easy fix!
>> It enabled me to fix a bug with 'selection mode' as well as add a new 
>> 'insert shortcut'. 
>> As a bonus, it also helped with the palette giving back keyboard focus to 
>> text fields!
>>
>> There's still some design decisions to make, for example, should the palette 
>> insert results as links when possible? (I'm thinking yes)
>>
>> I'm still thinking about how acting on the current tiddler should work, so 
>> anyone with any input on that subject should chime in :)
>>
>> Let me know what you think !
>>
>> @Mohammad @TiddlyTweeter: I'm sorry I didn't get the time to implement the 
>> filter operation history, but it's high on the todo list :)
>> I also like the idea of having common operations available. Maybe a setting 
>> could be switchable between 'history' and 'common operations' ?
>>
>> @Guido B: Interesting! Thanks for the heads up :) I'll check if I can make 
>> transpiling/polyfilling part of the process.
>>
>> @TW Tones: You can already do that :)
>> For example: '<$action-sendmessage $message="open-command-palette" 
>> $param=">"/>' will open the command palette with '>' ($param) as input.
>> You can have a look at 
>> '$:/plugins/souk21/commandpalette/CommandPaletteCommandMode', the rest is 
>> just a matter of creating a keyboard shortcut with TW provided way.
>>
>> I agree with you about discoverability.
>> For now, you can set 'neverBasic' setting to true, so you can see what 
>> filters operations are used (try it with '>Recent Tiddlers' for example)
>>
>> 'An example may be the creation of a parallel process trigger that will 
>> bypass an attempt to customise a global process.'
>> I'm sorry I didn't understand that part
>>
>> @si: Thanks for the input! I added a 'See Story List' command. I'm gonna 
>> look into switching tabs :)
>>
>> @Eshka: Thank you for the bug report! Don't know how it even worked in the 
>> first place haha. It's fixed now, thanks :)
>>
>> @Adam S.: Thank you a lot for the research you did! I used your pull request 
>> as a starting point for the new themes.
>> I tried it with different palettes and it feels way better now! Thanks 
>> again, it really helped me.
>> Let me know what you think of it :)
>> About your numbered shortcuts idea, would it be a way to select results ? (1 
>> for 1st result, 2 for 2nd,...) or would it be user customizable shortcuts?
>>
>>

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