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[tw5] Random html tags appear in my wiki

2021-08-20 Thread Sandip Deshmukh


I have a plain vanilla tiddlywiki with a couple of tiddlers.

I copied this on my Android smartphone. And opened it with tiddloid.

All went well till I was only viewing the tiddlers.

But after I edited/ added new tiddlers, some html markup strings started 
appearing at the very end. They are not part of any tiddler. And they 
continue to show even after I close all the tiddlers and hide the sidebar.

I copied the wiki back to my desktop and opened it with TiddlyDesktop. The 
html markup strings continue to appear and behave the same way. I can 
select them, copy them but can not delete them.

There seems to be no problem with the wiki otherwise ---  I can open 
tiddlers, edit tiddlers, etc.

Here is what the text looks like:

$tw.browser && !$tw.node) { $tw.passwordPrompt = new 
$tw.utils.PasswordPrompt(); } // Preload any encrypted tiddlers 
$tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers(function() { // Startup 
$tw.boot.startup({callback: callback}); }); }; /// 
Autoboot in the browser if($tw.browser && !$tw.boot.suppressBoot) { 
$tw.boot.boot(); } return $tw; }); if(typeof(exports) !== "undefined") { 
exports.TiddlyWiki = _boot; } else { _boot(window.$tw); } { 
$tw.boot.boot(); } return $tw; }); if(typeof(exports) !== "undefined") { 
exports.TiddlyWiki = _boot; } else { _boot(window.$tw); }

How do I get rid of this annoyance?

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[tw5] Re: Highlighting duplicates in lists

2021-08-20 Thread paulgilbert2000

 Hi Tones,

I am not sure which line of code you are referring too , the line that does 
the coloring is 
<$list filter="[all[current]get[field_example]] 
[all[current]get[field_example2]] [all[current]get[field_example3]]" 
variable=field-value>
matchthen[color: 
red;]] }}}><>

It does not have <> {{!!field}} 

instead there is  <>  ,so is this the bit that should be 
replaced *?*

i tried this  with no luck..


*[image: Capture.PNG]*
On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 6:29:52 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Hio,
>
> Back in my code
> 
> <$list filter="[all[]prefix[New]has[field]]">
> [all[]prefix[New]!titleget[field]match{!!field}then[color: 
> red;]] }}}>* <> {{!!field}}*
> 
> 
>
>
> *<> {{!!field}} *is the display
> replace this with 
> *{{{ [all[current]get[field]format:date[]] }}}*
> Not tested by me on this occasion
>
> where field is the chosen fieldname.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Monday, 16 August 2021 at 12:14:51 UTC+10 mohamed...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you tones
>>
>> The real life example is to evaluate duplicate dates, so the actual real 
>> values populating the fields are not  1 ,2 , etc.. they are actual dates , 
>> IE . 2021062506295,   20210811055859000,etc.
>> and so what i was trying is to  do is have the highlighted duplicate 
>> values converted from the tiddly wiki format they are stored in in their 
>> respective fields , to a normal readable format when displayed in the filter
>>
>> the
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 2:34:07 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>>
>>> I am confused, until now the fields  field_example,  field_example1,  
>>> field_example2 did not contain dates. 
>>>
>>>- Are you trying to convert these to dates?
>>>- the view widget format=date only works on tiddlywiki full serial 
>>>number dates!
>>>
>>> Perhaps step back and describe what you want to do in the real world, 
>>> not with tiddlywiki code that may or may not be correct. 
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Monday, 16 August 2021 at 01:46:55 UTC+10 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HI tones,

 sorry i guess i asked the wrong question, what i wanted to know is 
 where to place the widget  in the code , if i do it that way , it no 
 longer 
 highlights duplicates

  <>: |  
<$list filter="[all[current]get[field_example]] 
 [all[current]get[field_example2]] [all[current]get[field_example3]]" 
 variable=field-value>
 <$view field="field_example "format=date template=""/>
 <$view field="field_example1"format=date template=""/>
 <$view field="field_example2"format=date template=""/>

  matchthen[color: 
 red;]] }}}><>

 

 i also tried  adding format:date[DDD]] , which didn't yield any results 

<$list filter="[all[current]get[field_example]] 
 [all[current]get[field_example2]] [all[current]get[field_example3]]" 
 format:date[DDD]] variable=field-value> 
 On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 10:12:57 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Look for and use the viewWidget and use the format date with a 
> template, or the format relativedate
>
> Get into the habit also of searching in tiddlywiki.com to learn how 
> to do things.
> [image: Snag_c8a06a9.png]
>
> eg;
>
> <$view field=created format=date template=""/>
>
> <$view field=created format=relativedate/>
>
>  5.1.23 now allows this inside filters. 
> 
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Sunday, 15 August 2021 at 10:26:32 UTC+10 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry one more questions
>>
>> if the values are dates, how can they be displayed in normal format 
>> ,and not the tiddly wiki format
>>
>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 1:10:18 AM UTC+2 paulgilbert2000 wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you tones
>>>
>>> Will take me a while to understand all that . but it works like a 
>>> charm , and its even more than what i have asked for
>>>
>>> thanks again:)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:31:10 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Mohamad,

 I am happy to look at solving the problem presented but my 
 suspicion remains that there may be a different way to put the 
 question in 
 the first place. 

 Sometimes a question can be rephrased such that the answer is 
 simpler to find.

- In this we have multiple tiddlers, with multiple fields, with 
*values* that may be duplicated across these tiddlers/fields.
- in effect you want to list all tiddlers using the select 
fields, list these for each tiddler then for each found value
   -  detect when that value occurs in any other tiddler (not 
   self?) or select fields, if it does highlight it.
- I am not

[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-20 Thread Hans Wobbe

I will certainly be looking at it further.

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-4 clutterstack wrote:

> @R², I'm with Charlie on not getting into GreaseMonkey to really 
> customise the forum -- BUT your post reminded me of something. I used the 
> dropper tool in uBlock Origin to zap the animated date thingy. Now it 
> doesn't grab my eye when I'm reading. Thanks.
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-4 R² wrote:
>
>> @CJ, @clutterstack,
>>
>> Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
>> using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).
>>
>> Regarding the avatars, I'm going for
>>
>> ```
>> img.avatar{
>>   filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
>> completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``
>>
>> To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:
>>
>> ```
>> div.main-outlet.wrap {
>>   max-width: 100%;
>> }
>>
>> .topic-body {
>>   width: 100%
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
>> left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)
>>
>> main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
>> hide avatars (img.avatar display none)
>>
>> Best
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: how do stroll and tiddlyblink compare?

2021-08-20 Thread Andrew Paul

Thanks,

Could you clarify the tool Defiant_Information from reddit 
 is using to the right of 
the save tool? Looks like an open book?

file:///C:/Users/Janice%20Paul/Downloads/empty%20(4)%20(1).html#%24%3A%2FControlPanel:%24%3A%2FControlPanel%20GettingStarted

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 4:24:40 AM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is a video  courtesy of 
> Defiant_Information 
> from reddit  that shows 
> how to set up Stroll with TiddlyMap.
>
> If you have further questions I suggest you post them on Talk TiddlyWiki 
> , where you may also get input from Dave, 
> the creator of Stroll.
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:37:30 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tiddlyblink  is earlier than Stroll. At least in the beginning the main 
>> difference was, that Stroll had the two story view.. David Gifford created 
>> lots of goodies for Stroll - and Saqs two story was new to all of us - and 
>> was and is very interesting. But also the main reason for the difficulty 
>> using it with  
>> Tiddlymap.
>> Tiddlymap is special nothing quite like it.
>> Anne found that Tiddlyblink was a fast route for her digital garden set 
>> up. But tiddlywiki is used for many purposes mostly note taking - but can 
>> be used for lots of things and have very different look and feel. Digital 
>> gardening tool is only one of the uses.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 7:34:29 AM UTC+2 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was trying this tutorial 
>>>  and felt stuck when 
>>> Anne didn't explain the difference between stroll and tiddlyblink. Wasn't 
>>> sure if stroll came out after the tutorial and she didn't update it. Or if 
>>> the tutorial is doable without choosing tiddlyblink, and if so, how.
>>>
>>> I also saw stroll might prevent tiddlymap. Are mindmaps possible in this 
>>> case?
>>>
>>> generally, I am still anxious about choosing a platform to begin 
>>> gardening on, but TW seemed to have more support and development than most 
>>> others, so as a beginner to gardening, indieweb, and programming, am I 
>>> missing anything in my choice of TW? what implications are in this choice?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Talk TiddlyWiki and the "discobot"

2021-08-20 Thread PMario

There is a 

start advanced tutorial 

too

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> But I also found this "new user guide": 
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> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 17:31, Soren Bjornstad  
> wrote:
>
>> That worked, thanks.
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-5 PMario wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Soren
>>> That's strange. You have to send it a new message like so: 
>>>
>>> [image: new-message-01_.gif]
>>>
>>> Then add the user, a subject and some text. The text has to be more than 
>>> 20 chars ;)
>>> *The important part it the "start tutorial" text*
>>>
>>> [image: new-message-02_.gif]
>>>
>>> have fun!
>>> mario
>>>
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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

2021-08-20 Thread scot

I have also moved, Discourse is looking pretty good to me.

On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 09:41:45 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> I will join the "me too" movement (to discourse of course :)
>
> On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 13:24:49 UTC+10 fred@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> moved over also
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 14:40:24 UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:11:12 PM UTC+2 R² wrote:
>>>
 Switched too. Discourse is looking pretty good so far and indeed much 
 superior to GG. I did find the base config a bit spammy though, as users 
 are automatically registered as tracking a thread (and therefore receive 
 email alerts) after only 4 minutes with the thread open.
>>>
>>>
>>> All those settings can be adjusted in your Preferences page. You can 
>>> also "mute" a category if you want. So you don't get e-mailed at all. 
>>>
>>> -mario
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

2021-08-20 Thread scot



Scot
I have also moved.
On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 09:41:45 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> I will join the "me too" movement (to discourse of course :)
>
> On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 13:24:49 UTC+10 fred@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> moved over also
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 14:40:24 UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:11:12 PM UTC+2 R² wrote:
>>>
 Switched too. Discourse is looking pretty good so far and indeed much 
 superior to GG. I did find the base config a bit spammy though, as users 
 are automatically registered as tracking a thread (and therefore receive 
 email alerts) after only 4 minutes with the thread open.
>>>
>>>
>>> All those settings can be adjusted in your Preferences page. You can 
>>> also "mute" a category if you want. So you don't get e-mailed at all. 
>>>
>>> -mario
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function

2021-08-20 Thread Siniy-Kit

the problem was that title could non be a number (only a string), when we 
create tiddler by 
*if($tw.browser) {$tw.wiki.addTiddler(new 
$tw.Tiddler($tw.wiki.getModificationFields(),fields,$tw.wiki.getCreationFields()))};*
so I make .toString() to all values and now it works

пятница, 20 августа 2021 г. в 16:11:06 UTC+3, Eric Shulman: 

> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 5:45:47 AM UTC-7 Siniy-Kit wrote:
>
>> Hi. I import data from this googlespreadsheet ... and get error
>>
> *Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
>> by refreshing your browser*
>> *Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function*
>>
>
> I'm not certain, but I think you need a spreadsheet column with heading of 
> "title", so the import knows what to name each imported tiddler.
>
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] Talk TiddlyWiki and the "discobot"

2021-08-20 Thread Folke Hermansson Snickars

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But I also found this "new user guide":
https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-new-user-guide/96331

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 17:31, Soren Bjornstad 
wrote:

> That worked, thanks.
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-5 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi Soren
>> That's strange. You have to send it a new message like so:
>>
>> [image: new-message-01_.gif]
>>
>> Then add the user, a subject and some text. The text has to be more than
>> 20 chars ;)
>> *The important part it the "start tutorial" text*
>>
>> [image: new-message-02_.gif]
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
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[tw5] Re: Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function

2021-08-20 Thread Siniy-Kit

this 
table 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16gDZVsB8FOIxrsFKbkbBNWC37lPUAfKOGf-rCVxeOmY/edit#gid=1627697525
 
don't have title column too, but works good.
for spreadsheet import script id=title

The problem that, when I see " *title.substr is not a function*" I am not 
able to find  part of data from my table, which  destroys my Tidlywiki. 
Console F12 doesn't help me 


пятница, 20 августа 2021 г. в 16:11:06 UTC+3, Eric Shulman: 

> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 5:45:47 AM UTC-7 Siniy-Kit wrote:
>
>> Hi. I import data from this googlespreadsheet ... and get error
>>
> *Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
>> by refreshing your browser*
>> *Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function*
>>
>
> I'm not certain, but I think you need a spreadsheet column with heading of 
> "title", so the import knows what to name each imported tiddler.
>
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] Talk TiddlyWiki and the "discobot"

2021-08-20 Thread Soren Bjornstad

That worked, thanks.

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-5 PMario wrote:

> Hi Soren
> That's strange. You have to send it a new message like so: 
>
> [image: new-message-01_.gif]
>
> Then add the user, a subject and some text. The text has to be more than 
> 20 chars ;)
> *The important part it the "start tutorial" text*
>
> [image: new-message-02_.gif]
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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Re: [tw5] Talk TiddlyWiki and the "discobot"

2021-08-20 Thread PMario

Hi Soren
That's strange. You have to send it a new message like so: 

[image: new-message-01_.gif]

Then add the user, a subject and some text. The text has to be more than 20 
chars ;)
*The important part it the "start tutorial" text*

[image: new-message-02_.gif]

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-20 Thread clutterstack

@R², I'm with Charlie on not getting into GreaseMonkey to really customise 
the forum -- BUT your post reminded me of something. I used the dropper 
tool in uBlock Origin to zap the animated date thingy. Now it doesn't grab 
my eye when I'm reading. Thanks.
On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-4 R² wrote:

> @CJ, @clutterstack,
>
> Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
> using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).
>
> Regarding the avatars, I'm going for
>
> ```
> img.avatar{
>   filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
> }
> ```
>
> to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
> completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``
>
> To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:
>
> ```
> div.main-outlet.wrap {
>   max-width: 100%;
> }
>
> .topic-body {
>   width: 100%
> }
> ```
>
> The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
> left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)
>
> main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
> hide avatars (img.avatar display none)
>
> Best
>

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[tw5] Re: seeing what the transfering of tiddlywiki to a more self-coded platform can look like

2021-08-20 Thread Soren Bjornstad

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 4:23:05 PM UTC-5 jamm... wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying, Tones and Soren. I had the impression that 
> TiddlyWiki was more cookie cutter, or could be if I didn't add or alter 
> code. "A no-code personal wiki system," I heard TW called. But yes, I was 
> seeing this as a future-proofing mechanism where I might want to migrate 
> some- or everything stored in TiddlyWiki to a different platform in the 
> future.

There is a bit of a dilemma here in that the more of TiddlyWiki's features 
you take advantage of, the harder it will be to migrate to another system – 
but if you don't take advantage of all TiddlyWiki's features, then you 
might be misled into thinking it won't meet your needs by itself when it 
actually will.

On the other hand, I don't think “cookie-cutter” is a good characterization 
of TiddlyWiki at all. In fact I would say it's exactly the opposite…the 
cool thing about TW is that without having to go into a “real” programming 
language, you can make it do essentially whatever you want. You might check 
out my Zettelkasten , for 
instance, which I've built up from empty.html to a powerful custom platform 
over time. I have written only a couple of tiny snippets of JavaScript for 
that wiki, everything else is just wikitext. And since both the code and 
the data are within a single system, it is extremely easy to tweak things 
as you go along.

I'm with Tones in that you're probably best off diving into TiddlyWiki and 
not worrying about portability. Your stuff certainly isn't getting *trapped* in 
TiddlyWiki, you might just have to figure out how to manually translate 
some TiddlyWiki idioms to a new medium. And you'll probably be pleasantly 
surprised what you can do with the TiddlyWiki medium – if you let yourself 
dive in and take advantage of everything it has to offer.

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Re: [tw5] Talk TiddlyWiki and the "discobot"

2021-08-20 Thread Soren Bjornstad

Mario, I checked and I never received this message for some reason. I have 
0 messages and I'm pretty sure I never went in and deleted it. Is there 
another way to get to the tutorial?

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-5 PMario wrote:

> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 9:43:13 PM UTC+2 Folke Hermansson Snickars 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> How can I come back to the discobot  tutorial if I missed it when I 
>> joined?
>>
>
> You should still have the message in your in-box. 
>
> You can restart the "conversation" when you reply with : start tutorial 
>
> [image: discobot-01.gif]
>
> -mario
>

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[tw5] Re: seeing what the transfering of tiddlywiki to a more self-coded platform can look like

2021-08-20 Thread Álvaro

I don't know if I understand you.

Tiddlywiki is easy to use but this hides its complexity. You can use it in 
two version: single file and node version. The first is like a kind of 
bundle of the second. In the Node version you can render the tiddlers as 
static files, see this link 
.
 
This is the base of other publisher like jekill. And Jeremy is working in a 
publisher for Tiddlywiky.

El viernes, 20 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:23:04 UTC+2, TW Tones escribió:

> Jamm
>
> You can do a lot with tiddlywiki macros and widgets, perhaps an infinite 
> amount without any javascript, but if you choose to build complex solutions 
> you are also using html, css and Javascript technologies which are all 
> reusable skills and essential knowledge for the internet.  
>
> I would just make sure my data in tiddlywiki was logically arranged and 
> not worry about the future its structure, technologies, tools and more all 
> allow you to move your tiddlywiki data on to other places without any 
> problems. Tiddlywiki is not a proprietary trap.
>
> Tones
> On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 07:23:05 UTC+10 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying, Tones and Soren. I had the impression that 
>> TiddlyWiki was more cookie cutter, or could be if I didn't add or alter 
>> code. "A no-code personal wiki system," I heard TW called. But yes, I was 
>> seeing this as a future-proofing mechanism where I might want to migrate 
>> some- or everything stored in TiddlyWiki to a different platform in the 
>> future.
>>
>> For more context, I was trying to set myself up to be able to transfer my 
>> info from a digital garden on a more cookie cutter platform to a later less 
>> cookie-cutter one, once I learned to code a bit. Starting 
>> "non-technically," in the sense Maggie Appleton's articles  impressed on 
>> me. 
>>
>> https://github.com/MaggieAppleton/digital-gardeners
>> https://maggieappleton.com/nontechnical-gardening
>>
>> It seems I still misunderstand the question of going from a manageable 
>> Digital Garden to a more complex one, not having data transfer be an issue.
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>
>>> As Tones said, I think we need a bit more information about what you're 
>>> hoping to accomplish to give a complete answer. Are you seeing this as a 
>>> future-proofing mechanism where you *might* want to migrate something 
>>> stored in TiddlyWiki to a different platform in the future? Or you want to 
>>> use TiddlyWiki as a CMS and then publish using a different tool? Or 
>>> something else?
>>>
>>> On a straightforward level, it's possible to quickly render some or all 
>>> tiddlers to HTML, at which point you can post-process them using whatever 
>>> tooling you want. I've been using this to crosspost my sabbatical updates 
>>> from my Zettelkasten 
>>>  to my 
>>> Jekyll blog 
>>> , 
>>> using the following rule in my Makefile:
>>>
>>> sabbatical_updates := $(wildcard 
>>> zettelkasten_dir/tiddlers/SabbaticalUpdate*)
>>> sabbatical_files: $(sabbatical_updates)
>>> rm -rf /tmp/twout
>>> cd $(zettelkasten_dir) && tiddlywiki --output /tmp/twout --render 
>>> "[prefix[SabbaticalUpdate/]]" "[is[tiddler]addsuffix[.html]]" "text/html" 
>>> '$$:/sib/Templates/Export/SabbaticalUpdateCabCrosspost'
>>> python3 automation/crosspost-sabbatical-updates.py 
>>> /tmp/twout/SabbaticalUpdate/*
>>>
>>> The Python script is about 70 lines and primarily sets up a YAML header 
>>> with appropriate metadata so Jekyll understands what to do with the post. 
>>> This is also the purpose of the 
>>> $:/sib/Templates/Export/SabbaticalUpdateCabCrosspost template -- it embeds 
>>> certain fields in the HTML where this script can retrieve it. If you 
>>> preferred, I think you could use pandoc at this point to convert back to 
>>> Markdown or a similar format; since I'm keeping my source of record in 
>>> TiddlyWiki, I'm fine just leaving the posts as HTML in Jekyll.
>>>
>>> Of course, if you take advantage of dynamic features of TiddlyWiki that 
>>> can't be represented as HTML with 100% fidelity, e.g. dynamic lists based 
>>> on filters or displays of backlinks, you'll end up losing some 
>>> functionality when you do this.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 2:31:10 PM UTC-5 jamm...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm looking to see what the transfering of tiddlywiki to a more 
 self-coded platform, such as jekyll, gatsby, or others, can look like. My 
 concern is the transition being difficult, long, etc. Any resources?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function

2021-08-20 Thread Eric Shulman

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 5:45:47 AM UTC-7 Siniy-Kit wrote:

> Hi. I import data from this googlespreadsheet ... and get error
> *Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser*
> *Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function*
>

I'm not certain, but I think you need a spreadsheet column with heading of 
"title", so the import knows what to name each imported tiddler.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-20 Thread Charlie Veniot

That is quite awesome for folk who want to learn about and fiddle with that 
stuff.

I'm already throwing myself into other things I really want to learn, so 
the plate is already cognitively overflowing (hence the instant push-back 
when anything new approaches my plate.)

Doesn't matter.  If everybody else is set to go, I say pull the plug on 
this forum anytime.  I'll get around to participating in that other one 
when there's a theme option that doesn't annoy the stuffing out of me.  
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I say go with the majority of the 
beholding eyeballs.



On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 4:24:53 AM UTC-3 R² wrote:

> @CJ, @clutterstack,
>
> Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
> using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).
>
> Regarding the avatars, I'm going for
>
> ```
> img.avatar{
>   filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
> }
> ```
>
> to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
> completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``
>
> To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:
>
> ```
> div.main-outlet.wrap {
>   max-width: 100%;
> }
>
> .topic-body {
>   width: 100%
> }
> ```
>
> The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
> left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)
>
> main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
> hide avatars (img.avatar display none)
>
> Best
>

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[tw5] Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function

2021-08-20 Thread Siniy-Kit

Hi. I import data from this 
googlespreadsheet 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tEQxRZpoPPfV1i2VOq3d-Ii19zP9TYdXH3SIvv5OCUs/edit#gid=1907265902
by this Tiddlywiki
https://heeg.ru/shop2_2.html?id=1tEQxRZpoPPfV1i2VOq3d-Ii19zP9TYdXH3SIvv5OCUs#index
 and get error
*Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
by refreshing your browser*
*Uncaught TypeError: title.substr is not a function*

if I use the same TW, but use another spreadsheet everything is good
https://heeg.ru/shop2_2.html?id=16gDZVsB8FOIxrsFKbkbBNWC37lPUAfKOGf-rCVxeOmY

I think TW don't like something in my table, but I don't understand what
 

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[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-20 Thread TW Tones

If node is set to 0.0.0.0 the IP address becomes server on the LAN at the 
current (or all) IP address(s) of the device.

On windows you can actually configure additional IP addresses on your 
desktop, and then rather than use 0.0.0.0 use the specific IP address. I 
have done this on bob but got it mixed up a few occasions. The smart trick 
is to assign an additional IP address outside the dhcp range and host your 
server on that but from your desktop. One day you may move your server and 
the additional IP address to another computer, say onto a NAS, server or 
always on computer - even a raspberry Pi.

Another nice tip is you can use any 127.X.X.X address on the local host as 
well so you keep 127.0.0.1 free for other services.

I can elaborate, I am just hinting here.

Regards
Tones
On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 02:17:10 UTC+10 Stobot wrote:

> Ah! I knew it must be something easy - thanks for that! Lots to read up on 
> :)
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 11:52:06 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>
>> HI,
>> The TiddlyWiki --listen command has a lot of additional parameters. See: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ListenCommand
>>
>> tiddlywiki "path/to/wiki" --listen host=10.1.x.x   should do the trick. 
>>
>> -m
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 5:34:19 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the continued conversation @pmario,
>>>
>>> So I'm aware of my IP and am fine with the ip:port need (as that's how 
>>> it's done in BOB also), but the piece I'm stuck on is how to get node to 
>>> serve it on my local IP address (though this is really not my area of 
>>> expertise, so could be way over-complicating it). For example, to start 
>>> each day I run this from the command line:
>>>
>>> tiddlywiki "C:\Users\...\wikiname" --listen
>>>
>>> and then it says "Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080; in the console. How 
>>> do I get it / change the command I'm running to put it at a 10.1.X.X 
>>> address so that others on my LAN can get to it. It's not like they can 
>>> enter my 127.0.0.1:8080 address from their computer and get to my wiki 
>>> - right?
>>>
>>> note that I don't have admin access at this time (for IIS etc), can 
>>> sometimes get it temporarily, but let's just call it a "difficult" path, 
>>> though maybe not impossible. I like the domain name vs. IP though :)
>>> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 10:47:39 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>>>
 On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 4:45:31 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

 If you do have admin rights on your PC you can also define a "local 
> domain name" in the windows hosts file, if you have a fixed IP address. 
> eg: http://.lan:8080  .. 
>

 Oh ... I did forget. If others also need to know the local domain name, 
 they will also have to adjust their hosts file. Which needs admin rights.

 -m

>>>

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[tw5] Re: how do stroll and tiddlyblink compare?

2021-08-20 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

@saq,
Can tiddlymap be used for digital gardening?  I remember a lot of questions 
about that subject about a year ago. 

Birthe



On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 10:24:40 AM UTC+2 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is a video  courtesy of 
> Defiant_Information 
> from reddit  that shows 
> how to set up Stroll with TiddlyMap.
>
> If you have further questions I suggest you post them on Talk TiddlyWiki 
> , where you may also get input from Dave, 
> the creator of Stroll.
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:37:30 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tiddlyblink  is earlier than Stroll. At least in the beginning the main 
>> difference was, that Stroll had the two story view.. David Gifford created 
>> lots of goodies for Stroll - and Saqs two story was new to all of us - and 
>> was and is very interesting. But also the main reason for the difficulty 
>> using it with  
>> Tiddlymap.
>> Tiddlymap is special nothing quite like it.
>> Anne found that Tiddlyblink was a fast route for her digital garden set 
>> up. But tiddlywiki is used for many purposes mostly note taking - but can 
>> be used for lots of things and have very different look and feel. Digital 
>> gardening tool is only one of the uses.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 7:34:29 AM UTC+2 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was trying this tutorial 
>>>  and felt stuck when 
>>> Anne didn't explain the difference between stroll and tiddlyblink. Wasn't 
>>> sure if stroll came out after the tutorial and she didn't update it. Or if 
>>> the tutorial is doable without choosing tiddlyblink, and if so, how.
>>>
>>> I also saw stroll might prevent tiddlymap. Are mindmaps possible in this 
>>> case?
>>>
>>> generally, I am still anxious about choosing a platform to begin 
>>> gardening on, but TW seemed to have more support and development than most 
>>> others, so as a beginner to gardening, indieweb, and programming, am I 
>>> missing anything in my choice of TW? what implications are in this choice?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

2021-08-20 Thread TW Tones

I will join the "me too" movement (to discourse of course :)

On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 13:24:49 UTC+10 fred@gmail.com wrote:

> moved over also
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 14:40:24 UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:11:12 PM UTC+2 R² wrote:
>>
>>> Switched too. Discourse is looking pretty good so far and indeed much 
>>> superior to GG. I did find the base config a bit spammy though, as users 
>>> are automatically registered as tracking a thread (and therefore receive 
>>> email alerts) after only 4 minutes with the thread open.
>>
>>
>> All those settings can be adjusted in your Preferences page. You can also 
>> "mute" a category if you want. So you don't get e-mailed at all. 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: why TiddlyDesktop does not run my macros ?

2021-08-20 Thread vpl

I've found the problem !!
Saving the wiki file is not enough ... Right-click on the page >> "reload 
App" 
And that works !

Thanks for your reply

Regards

Le vendredi 20 août 2021 à 10:17:18 UTC+2, saq.i...@gmail.com a écrit :

> Can you please post the code for your macro?
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:45:06 AM UTC+2 vpl wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm wondering why tiddlydesktop does not run the macro I've developped in 
>> javascript
>> When I open the tiddly file (.html) into my browser all works fine and 
>> macro are executed, by through tiddlyDesktop it remains silent ... Any 
>> explanation or special config I would have missed ?
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help and support
>>
>> Regards
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: how do stroll and tiddlyblink compare?

2021-08-20 Thread Saq Imtiaz

Here is a video  courtesy of Defiant_Information 
from reddit  that shows 
how to set up Stroll with TiddlyMap.

If you have further questions I suggest you post them on Talk TiddlyWiki 
, where you may also get input from Dave, the 
creator of Stroll.

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:37:30 AM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tiddlyblink  is earlier than Stroll. At least in the beginning the main 
> difference was, that Stroll had the two story view.. David Gifford created 
> lots of goodies for Stroll - and Saqs two story was new to all of us - and 
> was and is very interesting. But also the main reason for the difficulty 
> using it with  
> Tiddlymap.
> Tiddlymap is special nothing quite like it.
> Anne found that Tiddlyblink was a fast route for her digital garden set 
> up. But tiddlywiki is used for many purposes mostly note taking - but can 
> be used for lots of things and have very different look and feel. Digital 
> gardening tool is only one of the uses.
>
> Birthe
>
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 7:34:29 AM UTC+2 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I was trying this tutorial 
>>  and felt stuck when 
>> Anne didn't explain the difference between stroll and tiddlyblink. Wasn't 
>> sure if stroll came out after the tutorial and she didn't update it. Or if 
>> the tutorial is doable without choosing tiddlyblink, and if so, how.
>>
>> I also saw stroll might prevent tiddlymap. Are mindmaps possible in this 
>> case?
>>
>> generally, I am still anxious about choosing a platform to begin 
>> gardening on, but TW seemed to have more support and development than most 
>> others, so as a beginner to gardening, indieweb, and programming, am I 
>> missing anything in my choice of TW? what implications are in this choice?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: why TiddlyDesktop does not run my macros ?

2021-08-20 Thread Saq Imtiaz

Can you please post the code for your macro?

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:45:06 AM UTC+2 vpl wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm wondering why tiddlydesktop does not run the macro I've developped in 
> javascript
> When I open the tiddly file (.html) into my browser all works fine and 
> macro are executed, by through tiddlyDesktop it remains silent ... Any 
> explanation or special config I would have missed ?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help and support
>
> Regards
>

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[tw5] why TiddlyDesktop does not run my macros ?

2021-08-20 Thread vpl

Hi

I'm wondering why tiddlydesktop does not run the macro I've developped in 
javascript
When I open the tiddly file (.html) into my browser all works fine and 
macro are executed, by through tiddlyDesktop it remains silent ... Any 
explanation or special config I would have missed ?

Thanks a lot for your help and support

Regards

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-20 Thread R²

@CJ, @clutterstack,

Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).

Regarding the avatars, I'm going for

```
img.avatar{
  filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
}
```

to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``

To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:

```
div.main-outlet.wrap {
  max-width: 100%;
}

.topic-body {
  width: 100%
}
```

The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)

main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
hide avatars (img.avatar display none)

Best

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[tw5] Re: Refer to the same tiddler with multiple names

2021-08-20 Thread R²

My bad, I hadn't understood the alias had to be invoked and wrongly assumed 
too much similarity with mklauber's Aliases plugin. I now understand that 
they are actually fairly different in their approach and daily use.

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[tw5] Re: Refer to the same tiddler with multiple names

2021-08-20 Thread PMario

Hi,
Did you use [[X|?]]  as a link syntax?
-m

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:47:35 AM UTC+2 R² wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just chiming in as I am considering switching from mklauber's Aliases 
> plugin (which is highly functional but, alas, doesn't have alias 
> backlinks). I did a quick test on 
> https://wikilabs.github.io/#GettingStarted and I followed Sandip's test, 
> only to encounter another, different unexpected result: the alias is viewed 
> as valid (This tiddler has the following aliases || X) but the linking 
> doesn't work (and neither do the Alias backlinks):
>
> [image: Screenshot 210820-064145.png]
>
> Is there perhaps a special way of populating the `aliases` field that both 
> Sandip and I have been missing in different ways?
>
> Best,
> R²
>

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[tw5] Re: Refer to the same tiddler with multiple names

2021-08-20 Thread R²

Hi,

Just chiming in as I am considering switching from mklauber's Aliases 
plugin (which is highly functional but, alas, doesn't have alias 
backlinks). I did a quick test 
on https://wikilabs.github.io/#GettingStarted and I followed Sandip's test, 
only to encounter another, different unexpected result: the alias is viewed 
as valid (This tiddler has the following aliases || X) but the linking 
doesn't work (and neither do the Alias backlinks):

[image: Screenshot 210820-064145.png]

Is there perhaps a special way of populating the `aliases` field that both 
Sandip and I have been missing in different ways?

Best,
R²

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[tw5] Re: how do stroll and tiddlyblink compare?

2021-08-20 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

Tiddlyblink  is earlier than Stroll. At least in the beginning the main 
difference was, that Stroll had the two story view.. David Gifford created 
lots of goodies for Stroll - and Saqs two story was new to all of us - and 
was and is very interesting. But also the main reason for the difficulty 
using it with  
Tiddlymap.
Tiddlymap is special nothing quite like it.
Anne found that Tiddlyblink was a fast route for her digital garden set up. 
But tiddlywiki is used for many purposes mostly note taking - but can be 
used for lots of things and have very different look and feel. Digital 
gardening tool is only one of the uses.

Birthe

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 7:34:29 AM UTC+2 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was trying this tutorial 
>  and felt stuck when Anne 
> didn't explain the difference between stroll and tiddlyblink. Wasn't sure 
> if stroll came out after the tutorial and she didn't update it. Or if the 
> tutorial is doable without choosing tiddlyblink, and if so, how.
>
> I also saw stroll might prevent tiddlymap. Are mindmaps possible in this 
> case?
>
> generally, I am still anxious about choosing a platform to begin gardening 
> on, but TW seemed to have more support and development than most others, so 
> as a beginner to gardening, indieweb, and programming, am I missing 
> anything in my choice of TW? what implications are in this choice?
>
> thanks,
>

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