Re: [tw5] Strange usage of refnotes

2021-05-12 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 7:08 PM Ken  wrote:

>
> This works exactly as I want! Thank you!
>
> You mention that this usage is fragile. Is it because the footnote
> information is actually being accessed twice - once while being transcluded
> in the data values, and again, for showfnotes, in the data tiddlers
> themselves?
>

That's true! For example if you table does not display the key:value with
fnote, still showfnotes will show it!

>
> Pardon if my questions are mislead. I'm at the point of understanding
> where I can't easily tell the difference between dangerous or fragile usage
> and standard expected behavior. Waiting anxiously for the Grok Tiddlywiki
> book!
>
> Thanks again for the solution. Since it's only being used in a private,
> personal wiki, I'm willing to take a chance with the fragility until I
> figure out another way to provide the functionality..
>

Go ahead!

>
> Take care,
>
> Ken
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:21:09 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> See the attached example!
>> Drag and drop into https://kookma.github.io/TW-Refnotes/#
>> and see the result!
>>
>> I am not sure if this is what you want!
>>
>> Sidenote: I do not recommend this kind of use! It will break simply!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:55 AM Ken  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using refnotes version 1.6.4.
>>>
>>> I have a tiddler which lists data values from data tiddlers identified
>>> by a tag:
>>>
>>> -
>>> 
>>> F1F2F3
>>> <$list filter="[tag[Data Tiddlers]]">
>>> {{##F1}}{{##F2}}{{##F3}}
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> This sentence is footnoted. <>
>>>
>>> <>
>>> -
>>>
>>> A data dictionary tiddler tagged as "Data Tiddlers" has the following
>>> names and values:
>>>
>>> -
>>> F1: V1
>>> F2: V2 <>
>>> F3: V3
>>> -
>>>
>>> When the listing tiddler is shown, a footnote number appears after V2.
>>> If you hover over it, the text of the footnote is correctly displayed.
>>> However, the footnote doesn't appear in the <>, although the
>>> one "hard coded" in the listing tittler 's body does (although it has the
>>> wrong number).
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how I can make this work? Maybe a special filter in the
>>> <> macro? Or is this a result of the very complicated syntax
>>> needed in TW to get things to work?
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Strange usage of refnotes

2021-05-12 Thread Ken

This works exactly as I want! Thank you!

You mention that this usage is fragile. Is it because the footnote 
information is actually being accessed twice - once while being transcluded 
in the data values, and again, for showfnotes, in the data tiddlers 
themselves? 

Pardon if my questions are mislead. I'm at the point of understanding where 
I can't easily tell the difference between dangerous or fragile usage and 
standard expected behavior. Waiting anxiously for the Grok Tiddlywiki book!

Thanks again for the solution. Since it's only being used in a private, 
personal wiki, I'm willing to take a chance with the fragility until I 
figure out another way to provide the functionality..

Take care,

Ken
On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:21:09 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> See the attached example!
> Drag and drop into https://kookma.github.io/TW-Refnotes/#
> and see the result!
>
> I am not sure if this is what you want!
>
> Sidenote: I do not recommend this kind of use! It will break simply!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:55 AM Ken  wrote:
>
>> I'm using refnotes version 1.6.4.
>>
>> I have a tiddler which lists data values from data tiddlers identified by 
>> a tag:
>>
>> -
>> 
>> F1F2F3
>> <$list filter="[tag[Data Tiddlers]]">
>> {{##F1}}{{##F2}}{{##F3}}
>> 
>> 
>>
>> This sentence is footnoted. <>
>>
>> <>
>> -
>>
>> A data dictionary tiddler tagged as "Data Tiddlers" has the following 
>> names and values:
>>
>> -
>> F1: V1 
>> F2: V2 <> 
>> F3: V3
>> -
>>
>> When the listing tiddler is shown, a footnote number appears after V2. If 
>> you hover over it, the text of the footnote is correctly displayed. 
>> However, the footnote doesn't appear in the <>, although the 
>> one "hard coded" in the listing tittler 's body does (although it has the 
>> wrong number).
>>
>> Does anyone know how I can make this work? Maybe a special filter in the 
>> <> macro? Or is this a result of the very complicated syntax 
>> needed in TW to get things to work?
>>
>> Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>> Ken
>>
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Re: [tw5] Strange usage of refnotes

2021-05-11 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
See the attached example!
Drag and drop into https://kookma.github.io/TW-Refnotes/#
and see the result!

I am not sure if this is what you want!

Sidenote: I do not recommend this kind of use! It will break simply!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:55 AM Ken  wrote:

> I'm using refnotes version 1.6.4.
>
> I have a tiddler which lists data values from data tiddlers identified by
> a tag:
>
> -
> 
> F1F2F3
> <$list filter="[tag[Data Tiddlers]]">
> {{##F1}}{{##F2}}{{##F3}}
> 
> 
>
> This sentence is footnoted. <>
>
> <>
> -
>
> A data dictionary tiddler tagged as "Data Tiddlers" has the following
> names and values:
>
> -
> F1: V1
> F2: V2 <>
> F3: V3
> -
>
> When the listing tiddler is shown, a footnote number appears after V2. If
> you hover over it, the text of the footnote is correctly displayed.
> However, the footnote doesn't appear in the <>, although the
> one "hard coded" in the listing tittler 's body does (although it has the
> wrong number).
>
> Does anyone know how I can make this work? Maybe a special filter in the
> <> macro? Or is this a result of the very complicated syntax
> needed in TW to get things to work?
>
> Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
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Re: [tw5] Strange usage of refnotes

2021-05-11 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
I am not sure if I correctly understand your question!

But <> shows the footnotes in the HOST TIDDLER! I cannot see
any reference in your host tiddler!
NOTE that most TW macros/widgets work on the tiddler wikitext NOT rendered
html!

You can have a look at
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Refnotes/#demo%2Ffootnotes-transclusion
To see how you can use showfnotes when you TRANSCLUDE contents!

Hope this helps




Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:55 AM Ken  wrote:

> I'm using refnotes version 1.6.4.
>
> I have a tiddler which lists data values from data tiddlers identified by
> a tag:
>
> -
> 
> F1F2F3
> <$list filter="[tag[Data Tiddlers]]">
> {{##F1}}{{##F2}}{{##F3}}
> 
> 
>
> This sentence is footnoted. <>
>
> <>
> -
>
> A data dictionary tiddler tagged as "Data Tiddlers" has the following
> names and values:
>
> -
> F1: V1
> F2: V2 <>
> F3: V3
> -
>
> When the listing tiddler is shown, a footnote number appears after V2. If
> you hover over it, the text of the footnote is correctly displayed.
> However, the footnote doesn't appear in the <>, although the
> one "hard coded" in the listing tittler 's body does (although it has the
> wrong number).
>
> Does anyone know how I can make this work? Maybe a special filter in the
> <> macro? Or is this a result of the very complicated syntax
> needed in TW to get things to work?
>
> Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
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[tw5] Strange usage of refnotes

2021-05-11 Thread Ken
I'm using refnotes version 1.6.4.

I have a tiddler which lists data values from data tiddlers identified by a 
tag:

-

F1F2F3
<$list filter="[tag[Data Tiddlers]]">
{{##F1}}{{##F2}}{{##F3}}



This sentence is footnoted. <>

<>
-

A data dictionary tiddler tagged as "Data Tiddlers" has the following names 
and values:

-
F1: V1 
F2: V2 <> 
F3: V3
-

When the listing tiddler is shown, a footnote number appears after V2. If 
you hover over it, the text of the footnote is correctly displayed. 
However, the footnote doesn't appear in the <>, although the 
one "hard coded" in the listing tittler 's body does (although it has the 
wrong number).

Does anyone know how I can make this work? Maybe a special filter in the 
<> macro? Or is this a result of the very complicated syntax 
needed in TW to get things to work?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Ken

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