[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello again Lost Admin,

This kind of problems have been long solved. Could you try it again and let 
me know if you still experiencing this problems ?

Regards

El jueves, 21 de septiembre de 2017, 16:00:49 (UTC+2), Lost Admin escribió:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 7:09:26 AM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> This is very inconvenient, and very hard to trace.
>> Lost Admin, If I open the link you have provided it reloads the page a 
>> couple of times, but after that it then starts to work and from that point 
>> the page no longer crashes or reloads. The page crashes randomly at first 
>> because it has to create the required environment, and it creates a part of 
>> it each time it reloads. This is NOT by design, but it happens, and it only 
>> happens on the offline version.
>>
>
> Likewise, it only happened to me on the version I got from your download 
> button. To reproduce it I had to clear all data from Firefox, which is 
> surprisingly difficult.
>  
>
>> As time passes, it is getting harder and harder to keep both versions 
>> (the online and offline ones) on sync, and sometimes it takes time that I 
>> would better invest in developing NoteSelf itself.
>>
>> The fact that I can't reproduce the issue on any of my computers or 
>> mobile devices does not help neither: for me it always works, an it's quite 
>> frustrating. I'm thinking about hidding the offline version a bit more and 
>> put a disclamer about it's beta stage.
>>
>
> That is your choice and I respect it. But if I can't host everything on my 
> own system(s), I will look for something else. Self-hosting is part of what 
> got me looking at TiddlyWiki and the offline/online mode(s) of NoteSelf 
>  combined with the per-tiddler conflict resolution got me very interested 
> in NoteSelf.
>
>

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Lost Admin]

On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 7:09:26 AM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez 
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> This is very inconvenient, and very hard to trace.
> Lost Admin, If I open the link you have provided it reloads the page a 
> couple of times, but after that it then starts to work and from that point 
> the page no longer crashes or reloads. The page crashes randomly at first 
> because it has to create the required environment, and it creates a part of 
> it each time it reloads. This is NOT by design, but it happens, and it only 
> happens on the offline version.
>

Likewise, it only happened to me on the version I got from your download 
button. To reproduce it I had to clear all data from Firefox, which is 
surprisingly difficult.
 

> As time passes, it is getting harder and harder to keep both versions (the 
> online and offline ones) on sync, and sometimes it takes time that I would 
> better invest in developing NoteSelf itself.
>
> The fact that I can't reproduce the issue on any of my computers or mobile 
> devices does not help neither: for me it always works, an it's quite 
> frustrating. I'm thinking about hidding the offline version a bit more and 
> put a disclamer about it's beta stage.
>

That is your choice and I respect it. But if I can't host everything on my 
own system(s), I will look for something else. Self-hosting is part of what 
got me looking at TiddlyWiki and the offline/online mode(s) of NoteSelf 
 combined with the per-tiddler conflict resolution got me very interested 
in NoteSelf.

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello everyone,

This is very inconvenient, and very hard to trace.
Lost Admin, If I open the link you have provided it reloads the page a 
couple of times, but after that it then starts to work and from that point 
the page no longer crashes or reloads. The page crashes randomly at first 
because it has to create the required environment, and it creates a part of 
it each time it reloads. This is NOT by design, but it happens, and it only 
happens on the offline version.

As time passes, it is getting harder and harder to keep both versions (the 
online and offline ones) on sync, and sometimes it takes time that I would 
better invest in developing NoteSelf itself.

The fact that I can't reproduce the issue on any of my computers or mobile 
devices does not help neither: for me it always works, an it's quite 
frustrating. I'm thinking about hidding the offline version a bit more and 
put a disclamer about it's beta stage.

Regards

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Sorry I hadn't seen this thread before I posted previously. This is the 
same issue that I'm having, on both Chrome and Firefox. The issue is not 
present when the same file is loaded over the file api.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 11:09:47 PM UTC+10, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> I need to correct my assessment with Chrome. Although Chrome does not 
> exhibit the multiple-reload behavior, it does report the same error on the 
> javascript console:
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Lost Admin wrote:
>>
>> Now that I'm at work, I can add Chrome 59 to my list. It works without 
>> issue.
>>
>> I'm thinking it might be something to do with either Firefox in general 
>> or my particular set-up of Firefox. Can someone else see if it's doing the 
>> same multiple-reload thing for you too or if it's just me?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Lost Admin]

I need to correct my assessment with Chrome. Although Chrome does not 
exhibit the multiple-reload behavior, it does report the same error on the 
javascript console:




On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 8:26:32 AM UTC-4, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> Now that I'm at work, I can add Chrome 59 to my list. It works without 
> issue.
>
> I'm thinking it might be something to do with either Firefox in general or 
> my particular set-up of Firefox. Can someone else see if it's doing the 
> same multiple-reload thing for you too or if it's just me?
>

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Lost Admin]

Now that I'm at work, I can add Chrome 59 to my list. It works without 
issue.

I'm thinking it might be something to do with either Firefox in general or 
my particular set-up of Firefox. Can someone else see if it's doing the 
same multiple-reload thing for you too or if it's just me?

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[tw] Re: [Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Lost Admin]

I have now tried this with Firefox 54, MS Edge, and IE 11. IE 11 does not 
exhibit the reloading behavior.

*Firefox (repeating in access log)*

"GET /noteself.html HTTP/1.1" 200 404453 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0"

*Edge (repeating in access log)*

"GET /noteself.html HTTP/1.1" 200 245760 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116 
Safari/537.36 Edge/15.15063"

*IE 11 (only once in access log)*

 "GET /noteself.html HTTP/1.1" 200 404453 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
10.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko"

I don't have chrome at home to test with.

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