[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-30 Thread Robert Edwards
What got me was not knowing I had to look for a new icon, and that my 
saving had been silently disabled. So it's not a case of not noticing the 
color of the icon, *it's noticing that there's an icon at all! *It was only 
after I'd lost work that I realized that TF had been updated and that I had 
to take explicit action.

I will accept part blame; it did ask me to confirm leaving the page. In 
dGSD (TWC-based), I've gotten used to seeing the "leave page" confirmation 
pop-up every time I close the page, whether I have unsaved changes or not. 
(There's a setting that's supposed to only ask when there are unsaved 
changes but it often reverts back to "always ask." That's a different 
annoyance) I this case I knew that I'd saved so closed the page. What I 
didn't know was that due to my not re-enabling saving in the new version of 
TF, my save had silently failed.

I love TW but this bit me hard and I'm a little angry about it.

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 2:15:57 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I been following the discussions on problems people been having on saving. 
> Many turn out to be no fault in TiddlyFox. Just users are not noticing the 
> different states of "enablement" of the TiddlyFox plugin. Not noticing you 
> need to explicitly enable saving for each TW separately now.
>
> The new icon in Firefox is pretty small and its quite easy not to notice 
> whether its globe is BLUE or GREEN when navigated to a TW. Elegant though 
> the design is, I think something that fills the space available for the 
> icon would be better, like the face of a cat, that changes color on 
> enabled state. This kind of icon ...
>
> Or maybe the WHOLE existing icon change color on enablement state?
>
> ALSO might be worth saying that the color states might better be RED for 
> not currently saving, and GREEN for currently saving, this TiddlyWiki. 
> Bland GREY, as is, for other pages 
>
> Just thoughts.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Josiah,

You mean these mentioned in a post by you?
>
> Yes
 
I have seen some discussion about the icons used; can't find it at the 
moment.

Is there a place to see what's happening on all this? I might comment. But 
> not if its far on as the images you show will do the job well enough.
>
> The 'official' place for Tiddlyfox issues: 
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/issues

Cheers,

Ton
 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Ton

You mean these mentioned in a post by you?

I was not aware. I quite like the idea of keeping a cat face :-)

Cat 1 - Saving, Green, Eyes open

Cat 2 - Not Saving, Blue, Eyes shut

Cat 3 - Not Saving & not a TW, Grey, Eyes shut

Cat 4 - Double Saving (i.e. One TW opened in more than one tab), Red, Eyes 
very wide in shock :-)

Is there a place to see what's happening on all this? I might comment. But 
not if its far on as the images you show will do the job well enough.

Best wishes
Josiah

Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Did you see the new icons used in the new 2.0.2-prerelease build?
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bU2fnqAxKUA/CC-wp2jOBQAJ
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Josiah,

Did you see the new icons used in the new 2.0.2-prerelease build?

See:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bU2fnqAxKUA/yn-sFBY_BQAJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bU2fnqAxKUA/CC-wp2jOBQAJ

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
B, Good point I overlooked, J.

Birthe C wrote:
>
> I like that  the icon turn red, when I open the same TW in more than one 
> tab. That happens.
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Birthe C
I like that  the icon turn red, when I open the same TW in more than one 
tab. That happens.

Birthe


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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

2017-05-25 Thread Conner Phillips
I support this 100%. This didn't bite me in the rear, but I did loose a few 
items when just playing around with something. I can easily imagine how, as 
it is right now, go really south for somebody.

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 8:15:57 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I been following the discussions on problems people been having on saving. 
> Many turn out to be no fault in TiddlyFox. Just users are not noticing the 
> different states of "enablement" of the TiddlyFox plugin. Not noticing you 
> need to explicitly enable saving for each TW separately now.
>
> The new icon in Firefox is pretty small and its quite easy not to notice 
> whether its globe is BLUE or GREEN when navigated to a TW. Elegant though 
> the design is, I think something that fills the space available for the 
> icon would be better, like the face of a cat, that changes color on 
> enabled state. This kind of icon ...
>
> Or maybe the WHOLE existing icon change color on enablement state?
>
> ALSO might be worth saying that the color states might better be RED for 
> not currently saving, and GREEN for currently saving, this TiddlyWiki. 
> Bland GREY, as is, for other pages 
>
> Just thoughts.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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