Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Sylvain Naudin]

Thank you Jed for your feedback.

Having BobExe locally doesn't really answer my need for a wiki on my 
hosting, since it offers Node.js and all the advantage of an online shared 
hosting (backup, https, etc...).

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Jed Carty]

Sylvain,

After I get federation on the local network set up correctly (I have been 
very close for about 2 months now, I just need to do it) the next thing I 
am going to work on is security and authentication.
It should be able to be packaged into BobEXE without any trouble, if you 
use the plugin version you will have to install some separate npm modules, 
but I am hoping it won't be anything too bad.

I can't guarantee it will happen in a reasonable amount of time, but it 
will happen.

The credentials options available on the --listen command aren't included 
in Bob, if I don't get to the more secure versions soon I will dig into 
whatever I need to add to use what the normal node server uses as a 
temporary measure.

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Sylvain Naudin]

Hello Jed,

When you write at the end of more details :
"*under consideration* Security and authentication to limit access and 
editing"

Do you think you'll be able to improve the subject soon?

As I said, I'm starting to experiment Bob to meet the multi-user need (not 
so much for multiple creation). So far it hasn't been a big success, for 
example he loses my plugins on the way, and when that happens he keeps 
showing me 'please save and reload'. I tried to update Bob but the plugin 
number hadn't changed. I will try again with a fresh install.

But back to security, I couldn't get the credentials=users.csv option to 
work with --wsserver. Do you know if it's possible? If not, it will be 
maybe dangerous to use Bob on an online server. Thanks for your feedback.

Sylvain

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Jed Carty]

It looks like I forgot to put it in the changelog, but you can add 
persistent usernames now. There is an option to save the username as a 
cookie so when you use the same browser it will automatically set the 
username to what it was the last time you used the wiki.

This is a per-wiki setting, but it should save the username similarly to 
how browsers save input to forms on webpages.
The option to turn it on is under the `Setup this wiki` section in the Bob 
tab of the control panel, there is a bug where if you don't have a name 
entered yet the first character you type into the username field will make 
it go out of edit mode, just click on the edit icon next to it and enter 
the name after that happens. I will fix this bug at some point.

N.B.

This is not a login. It in no way adds any security to the wikis. It is 
just a way to persistently have your name set in the wiki so you don't have 
to enter it every time and to help in multi-user situations.

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Jed Carty]

Mohammad,

I am glad to hear it is working on windows, I am always a bit worried 
because I can't test with windows.

Thank you for noting the memory, I had wondered. In my experience Bob with 
no wikis takes up about 80-100 mb (node is responsible for most of that 
from what I understand), then each open wiki adds approximately 20mb, so 
your observation fits with what I have seen on linux. I assume that very 
large wikis require more memory, but I haven't tested that.

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Mohammad]

Jed,


Installed on Windows 10 + Chrome 81 works great.
I noted to memory consumption. Opening three wikis at the same time Bob 
consume 178MB 

 Thank you

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 2:21:46 AM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I updated the control panel interface for Bob to add a lot more context 
> help. Hopefully it is more obvious where things are and the new help is 
> actually useful.
>
> Based on some feedback I found some bugs that have probably been around a 
> while. Converting a wiki from an html file to a Node wiki should work 
> correctly now, listing existing node wikis so they can be used with bob 
> should work now. I found a weird edge case that could save empty settings 
> files.
>
> The file server now has what is hopefully a better ui and something closer 
> to enough documentation to use.
>
> The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>
> The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases 
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>
> !! Version 1.5.2 Scruffy, the Janitor
>
>- Made a change to saving settings that may prevent a rare bug
>- The file server now tries to determine the mimetype of served files
>- Many updates to the control panel tab layout and documentation
>- Making a wiki from an html file should work again
>- the action-updatesetting widget got an update so it can properly 
>remove settings
>- Big reorganisation of the $:/ControlPanel tab for Bob, added a lot 
>of context help
>- Fixed a problem automatic backups caused with serving Bob to child 
>wikis
>- Fixed adding exising node wikis to the Bob server
>
>
 

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Jed Carty]

Tony,

While I appreciate constructive feedback, I have absolutely no idea what 
information that note is supposed to convey other than formatted text that 
I find more difficult to read.

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[TonyM]

Jed,

Nice work, I certainly find it easier to explore and configure the great 
features contained in Bob.

Bobexe was a simple download and replace.

I will try and write for myself and share a document on the differences 
between single file wikis and Bob/Node.

*A small note:*

Control Panel > Bob > Server settings

Checking this box will keep BobEXE  from 
opening the index wiki in the browser automatically each time it is started.

 DO NOT Automatically open browser when BobEXE starts 

Great work thanks Jed

Tony

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 7:51:46 AM UTC+10, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I updated the control panel interface for Bob to add a lot more context 
> help. Hopefully it is more obvious where things are and the new help is 
> actually useful.
>
> Based on some feedback I found some bugs that have probably been around a 
> while. Converting a wiki from an html file to a Node wiki should work 
> correctly now, listing existing node wikis so they can be used with bob 
> should work now. I found a weird edge case that could save empty settings 
> files.
>
> The file server now has what is hopefully a better ui and something closer 
> to enough documentation to use.
>
> The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>
> The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases 
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>
> !! Version 1.5.2 Scruffy, the Janitor
>
>- Made a change to saving settings that may prevent a rare bug
>- The file server now tries to determine the mimetype of served files
>- Many updates to the control panel tab layout and documentation
>- Making a wiki from an html file should work again
>- the action-updatesetting widget got an update so it can properly 
>remove settings
>- Big reorganisation of the $:/ControlPanel tab for Bob, added a lot 
>of context help
>- Fixed a problem automatic backups caused with serving Bob to child 
>wikis
>- Fixed adding exising node wikis to the Bob server
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Jed Carty]

I am switching from using pkg to nexe to make the executable in the next 
release, this shouldn't affect anyone other than I will be able to make 32 bit 
binaries again if there is anyone who wants them.

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Sylvain Naudin]

Great! Thanks for the update Jed.

With some help, I managed yesterday to install Bob on an online Node.js 
instance at my host. It was my first real test, and I noticed some bugs (so 
before this update). I could take a closer look and give you feedback now.

Sylvain

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Birthe C]

Jed,

Took Bob for a quick spin. Like the look and explanations and most 
importantly, I have none of my usual complains. It just works. Will have to 
wait till tomorrow for further testing.

Thank you so much,
Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Joshua Fontany]

Sweet, sweet updates. I like the new look for the $:/ControlPanel tab! 
Poking around now

Best,
Joshua F

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 2:51:46 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I updated the control panel interface for Bob to add a lot more context 
> help. Hopefully it is more obvious where things are and the new help is 
> actually useful.
>
> Based on some feedback I found some bugs that have probably been around a 
> while. Converting a wiki from an html file to a Node wiki should work 
> correctly now, listing existing node wikis so they can be used with bob 
> should work now. I found a weird edge case that could save empty settings 
> files.
>
> The file server now has what is hopefully a better ui and something closer 
> to enough documentation to use.
>
> The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>
> The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases 
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>
> !! Version 1.5.2 Scruffy, the Janitor
>
>- Made a change to saving settings that may prevent a rare bug
>- The file server now tries to determine the mimetype of served files
>- Many updates to the control panel tab layout and documentation
>- Making a wiki from an html file should work again
>- the action-updatesetting widget got an update so it can properly 
>remove settings
>- Big reorganisation of the $:/ControlPanel tab for Bob, added a lot 
>of context help
>- Fixed a problem automatic backups caused with serving Bob to child 
>wikis
>- Fixed adding exising node wikis to the Bob server
>
>

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[tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.5.2, Scruffy, the Janitor - ui updates, fixing bugs and the file server

[Jed Carty]

I updated the control panel interface for Bob to add a lot more context 
help. Hopefully it is more obvious where things are and the new help is 
actually useful.

Based on some feedback I found some bugs that have probably been around a 
while. Converting a wiki from an html file to a Node wiki should work 
correctly now, listing existing node wikis so they can be used with bob 
should work now. I found a weird edge case that could save empty settings 
files.

The file server now has what is hopefully a better ui and something closer 
to enough documentation to use.

The plugin version of Bob is on GitHub here: 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob

The newest version of BobEXE is available here: 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases 

If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here 
https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
or if you prefer there is a link for PayPal here 
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE

!! Version 1.5.2 Scruffy, the Janitor

   - Made a change to saving settings that may prevent a rare bug
   - The file server now tries to determine the mimetype of served files
   - Many updates to the control panel tab layout and documentation
   - Making a wiki from an html file should work again
   - the action-updatesetting widget got an update so it can properly 
   remove settings
   - Big reorganisation of the $:/ControlPanel tab for Bob, added a lot of 
   context help
   - Fixed a problem automatic backups caused with serving Bob to child 
   wikis
   - Fixed adding exising node wikis to the Bob server

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