[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Hans Wobbe]

I will certainly be looking at it further.

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-4 clutterstack wrote:

> @R², I'm with Charlie on not getting into GreaseMonkey to really 
> customise the forum -- BUT your post reminded me of something. I used the 
> dropper tool in uBlock Origin to zap the animated date thingy. Now it 
> doesn't grab my eye when I'm reading. Thanks.
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-4 R² wrote:
>
>> @CJ, @clutterstack,
>>
>> Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
>> using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).
>>
>> Regarding the avatars, I'm going for
>>
>> ```
>> img.avatar{
>>   filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
>> completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``
>>
>> To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:
>>
>> ```
>> div.main-outlet.wrap {
>>   max-width: 100%;
>> }
>>
>> .topic-body {
>>   width: 100%
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
>> left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)
>>
>> main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
>> hide avatars (img.avatar display none)
>>
>> Best
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[clutterstack]

@R², I'm with Charlie on not getting into GreaseMonkey to really customise 
the forum -- BUT your post reminded me of something. I used the dropper 
tool in uBlock Origin to zap the animated date thingy. Now it doesn't grab 
my eye when I'm reading. Thanks.
On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-4 R² wrote:

> @CJ, @clutterstack,
>
> Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
> using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).
>
> Regarding the avatars, I'm going for
>
> ```
> img.avatar{
>   filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
> }
> ```
>
> to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
> completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``
>
> To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:
>
> ```
> div.main-outlet.wrap {
>   max-width: 100%;
> }
>
> .topic-body {
>   width: 100%
> }
> ```
>
> The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
> left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)
>
> main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
> hide avatars (img.avatar display none)
>
> Best
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Charlie Veniot]

That is quite awesome for folk who want to learn about and fiddle with that 
stuff.

I'm already throwing myself into other things I really want to learn, so 
the plate is already cognitively overflowing (hence the instant push-back 
when anything new approaches my plate.)

Doesn't matter.  If everybody else is set to go, I say pull the plug on 
this forum anytime.  I'll get around to participating in that other one 
when there's a theme option that doesn't annoy the stuffing out of me.  
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I say go with the majority of the 
beholding eyeballs.



On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 4:24:53 AM UTC-3 R² wrote:

> @CJ, @clutterstack,
>
> Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
> using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).
>
> Regarding the avatars, I'm going for
>
> ```
> img.avatar{
>   filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
> }
> ```
>
> to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
> completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``
>
> To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:
>
> ```
> div.main-outlet.wrap {
>   max-width: 100%;
> }
>
> .topic-body {
>   width: 100%
> }
> ```
>
> The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
> left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)
>
> main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
> hide avatars (img.avatar display none)
>
> Best
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[R²]

@CJ, @clutterstack,

Most of those are fairly minor design issues that can be easily solved 
using a custom CSS hack (involving Stylus/GreaseMonkey/...).

Regarding the avatars, I'm going for

```
img.avatar{
  filter: grayscale(100%) contrast(0.3) brightness(1.7);
}
```

to discretely blend them in the background without doing away with them 
completely, but you may prefer a ``display: none``

To avoid some of the empty spaces, you can use:

```
div.main-outlet.wrap {
  max-width: 100%;
}

.topic-body {
  width: 100%
}
```

The latter isn't great because you're going to tire your eyes in 
left-to-right saccades on a large screen but your call :)

main-outlet.wrap has a maximum width specified, remove or change it →
hide avatars (img.avatar display none)

Best

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[TW Tones]

Folks,

I am on air because of Boris and others help.

On discourse I am very happy, we have regained features lost in GG forums 
updates, dropping tiddlywiki title links on a thread converts it to a 
markup link and a lot more. I believe we have an integration for discourse 
comments on a published tiddlywiki, I will try and locate that. I can 
integrate discourse with WordPress to maybe continue with my idea 
of http://www.colabteam.net/tiddlywiki/

There are ways to apply an overlay to any webpage to refactor it to a more 
compact look, so if none of the themes help I would not give up. Also I 
don't concur with the criticisms when compared with google groups, Sure GG 
makes use the the real-estate a lot more but when deep in a thread there is 
way too much information on the screen you do not need. Whilst there is a 
lot of white space on discourse I would like to reduce, it has all the 
information one may want.

Reintroducing the ability to highlight code, edit after posting, and many 
other new features like private chats make this far superior the GG and in 
my mind a "no brainer" even if we want improvements.

Tones

On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 08:34:43 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well, I say that ...
>
> If the theme doesn't make viewing a conversation thread full-screen, I'm 
> not going to enjoy that.
>
> Software that doesn't take advantage of the full desktop display width 
> turns me off.
>
> Is it just me or is discourse designed for mobile devices?
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 7:13:51 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> If this theme 
>>  
>> can be provided as an option, then I'm good.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-3 PMario wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:25:13 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, just looked at it again.  Created an account to see if I can 
 customize the interface to be more GG looking, no dice.

 Love TiddlyWiki, *really* loathe that new forum.  Not convinced I'll 
 have the patience to deal with that interface.   Too many bells and 
 whistles going on.  Bare-bones minimalism is more my cup of tea.

>>>
>>> At the moment there is only 1 theme installed. .. But there seems to be 
>>> a possibility to add more. They should even be selectable by users. ... BUT 
>>> I have to read the docs first ... If I can find it ;)
>>>
>>> There are 16 popular themes that can be reviewed. .. So there are 
>>> probably more .. 
>>>
>>> We will see. 
>>>
>>> -mario
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Charlie Veniot]

Well, I say that ...

If the theme doesn't make viewing a conversation thread full-screen, I'm 
not going to enjoy that.

Software that doesn't take advantage of the full desktop display width 
turns me off.

Is it just me or is discourse designed for mobile devices?

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 7:13:51 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> If this theme 
>  
> can be provided as an option, then I'm good.
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-3 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:25:13 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, just looked at it again.  Created an account to see if I can 
>>> customize the interface to be more GG looking, no dice.
>>>
>>> Love TiddlyWiki, *really* loathe that new forum.  Not convinced I'll 
>>> have the patience to deal with that interface.   Too many bells and 
>>> whistles going on.  Bare-bones minimalism is more my cup of tea.
>>>
>>
>> At the moment there is only 1 theme installed. .. But there seems to be a 
>> possibility to add more. They should even be selectable by users. ... BUT I 
>> have to read the docs first ... If I can find it ;)
>>
>> There are 16 popular themes that can be reviewed. .. So there are 
>> probably more .. 
>>
>> We will see. 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Charlie Veniot]

If this theme 
 
can be provided as an option, then I'm good.

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-3 PMario wrote:

> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:25:13 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yeah, just looked at it again.  Created an account to see if I can 
>> customize the interface to be more GG looking, no dice.
>>
>> Love TiddlyWiki, *really* loathe that new forum.  Not convinced I'll 
>> have the patience to deal with that interface.   Too many bells and 
>> whistles going on.  Bare-bones minimalism is more my cup of tea.
>>
>
> At the moment there is only 1 theme installed. .. But there seems to be a 
> possibility to add more. They should even be selectable by users. ... BUT I 
> have to read the docs first ... If I can find it ;)
>
> There are 16 popular themes that can be reviewed. .. So there are probably 
> more .. 
>
> We will see. 
>
> -mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:25:13 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, just looked at it again.  Created an account to see if I can 
> customize the interface to be more GG looking, no dice.
>
> Love TiddlyWiki, *really* loathe that new forum.  Not convinced I'll have 
> the patience to deal with that interface.   Too many bells and whistles 
> going on.  Bare-bones minimalism is more my cup of tea.
>

At the moment there is only 1 theme installed. .. But there seems to be a 
possibility to add more. They should even be selectable by users. ... BUT I 
have to read the docs first ... If I can find it ;)

There are 16 popular themes that can be reviewed. .. So there are probably 
more .. 

We will see. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Charlie Veniot]

Yeah, just looked at it again.  Created an account to see if I can 
customize the interface to be more GG looking, no dice.

Love TiddlyWiki, *really* loathe that new forum.  Not convinced I'll have 
the patience to deal with that interface.   Too many bells and whistles 
going on.  Bare-bones minimalism is more my cup of tea.



On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 1:06:40 PM UTC-3 clutterstack wrote:

> @cj and @Birthe, LOL! I think there's a generational issue going on there. 
> I know I tend to use too-small text, too-small line spacing, and too-small 
> margins, but I get such an uncomfortable feeling from gobs of empty space.
>
> I think I'll get used to the interface. I'm hoping the functionality will 
> be better than Google. The animated timeline is sure annoying, though! :D
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:58:51 AM UTC-4 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> @Tones, this may be totally off-base for your situation, (and apologies 
>> if I've missed more details elsewhere) but I am currently logging in to 
>> Discourse with Google -- if I'm logged into this group, I can select the 
>> sign in with Google option at the Discourse board and the Clutterstack user 
>> is there. 
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:57:39 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> I am all for it but as posted elsewhere I am not getting the 
>>> confirmation email and can't use my account.
>>>
>>> Whos the admin? Help please.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 17 August 2021 at 17:52:32 UTC+10 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
 Hi tiddlywikians,

 there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

 Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to 
 the new Forum?

 just out of interest :)

 Best wishes,
 BTC

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[clutterstack]

@cj and @Birthe, LOL! I think there's a generational issue going on there. 
I know I tend to use too-small text, too-small line spacing, and too-small 
margins, but I get such an uncomfortable feeling from gobs of empty space.

I think I'll get used to the interface. I'm hoping the functionality will 
be better than Google. The animated timeline is sure annoying, though! :D

Best,
Chris

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:58:51 AM UTC-4 clutterstack wrote:

> @Tones, this may be totally off-base for your situation, (and apologies if 
> I've missed more details elsewhere) but I am currently logging in to 
> Discourse with Google -- if I'm logged into this group, I can select the 
> sign in with Google option at the Discourse board and the Clutterstack user 
> is there. 
>
> Best,
> Chris
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:57:39 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> I am all for it but as posted elsewhere I am not getting the confirmation 
>> email and can't use my account.
>>
>> Whos the admin? Help please.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Tuesday, 17 August 2021 at 17:52:32 UTC+10 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>> Hi tiddlywikians,
>>>
>>> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>>
>>> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to 
>>> the new Forum?
>>>
>>> just out of interest :)
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> BTC
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[clutterstack]

@Tones, this may be totally off-base for your situation, (and apologies if 
I've missed more details elsewhere) but I am currently logging in to 
Discourse with Google -- if I'm logged into this group, I can select the 
sign in with Google option at the Discourse board and the Clutterstack user 
is there. 

Best,
Chris
On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:57:39 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> I am all for it but as posted elsewhere I am not getting the confirmation 
> email and can't use my account.
>
> Whos the admin? Help please.
>
> Tones
>
> On Tuesday, 17 August 2021 at 17:52:32 UTC+10 BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>> Hi tiddlywikians,
>>
>> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>
>> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to the 
>> new Forum?
>>
>> just out of interest :)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> BTC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[TW Tones]

I am all for it but as posted elsewhere I am not getting the confirmation 
email and can't use my account.

Whos the admin? Help please.

Tones

On Tuesday, 17 August 2021 at 17:52:32 UTC+10 BurningTreeC wrote:

> Hi tiddlywikians,
>
> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>
> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to the 
> new Forum?
>
> just out of interest :)
>
> Best wishes,
> BTC
>

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