[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-19 Thread PMario
On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 3:54:28 PM UTC+2, michaelha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thank you for clearing that up, and for your patience with me. I can only 
> assume I am one of the awkward people who uses an awkward date format. 
>

No, You and your date format are perfectly fine ;). ... It's just a 
usecase, where we don't have an "out of the box" solution yet.
-m 

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-19 Thread michaelharrison619
Mark,

Thank you for clearing that up, and for your patience with me. I can only 
assume I am one of the awkward people who uses an awkward date format. 

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The filter Mario is suggesting doesn't exist -- that's why it doesn't work.

I guess I wonder how often anyone needs this particular functionality?

Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:54:27 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
> If I were to try sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/], how would you suggest I 
> integrate it into the list I have at the moment?
>
> If this is the basic form:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> Where would sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/] go in the code? At the least:
>
> <$list 
> filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/]]">
>
> Does not seem to work.
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread michaelharrison619
Mario,

If I were to try sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/], how would you suggest I 
integrate it into the list I have at the moment?

If this is the basic form:

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">

//<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// <$view 
field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
<$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>



Where would sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/] go in the code? At the least:

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/]]">

Does not seem to work.

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 8:00:58 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> sortddmm[mydatefield]
>
>
I was thinking about a syntax similar to this

sortbydate:fieldname[format]  eg: sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/YYY]  which 
would make it possible to use any http://tiddlywiki.com/#DateFormat

-m

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
For anyone interested in living dangerously, here is my first attempt at 
writing a filter. In the filter syntax, it takes the form

sortddmm[mydatefield]



I have barely tested it, and have no idea what happens if you throw 
incorrectly formatted stuff at it. It wants dates like "dd/mm/". No 
other separator than /, all 3 fields.

Be *absolutely certain to back up* your TW if you try this.

Mark

On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 5:55:08 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Having long used TiddlyWiki 5 as a journal, I have lots of tiddlers titled 
> in a dd/mm/ format, such as 29/02/2016.
>
> I am trying to make a list of books I have read, organized by date 
> finished. Here is the code I am using:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// by <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> The title of the book is the title of the tiddler, and my fields are 
> author, began, and finished, which I expect are fairly self explanatory. 
> This code turns my began and finished dates into links that lead to the 
> relevant journal entries. Unfortunately, the list is being organized by 
> day, not year, then month, then day, as seen here:
>
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may adjust the list to 
> display the books in proper chronological order? Thank you.
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread michaelharrison619
That has done it! Thank you, Mark, and everyone who was kind enough to help 
me find a solution.

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The syntax is  !sort[created]

Good luck!
Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 10:13:26 AM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Thank you, that method looks like it should work. Having tried it though, 
> I find myself running into a bit of an issue. I have updated my code to 
> look like this:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[!created]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> The !created is so that my most recently read books are on the top. 
> However, while using sort[created] puts the tiddlers in sequential order:
>
> *The Once and Future King* by T. H. White | 10/06/2015 - 29/09/2015 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *Madame Bovary* by Gustave Flaubert | 29/02/2016 - 27/03/2016 
> *Tess of the d'Urbervilles* by Thomas Hardy | 28/03/2016 - 25/04/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016 
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016
>
> Using sort[!created] seems to mix them up for some reason:
>
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *Tess of the d'Urbervilles* by Thomas Hardy | 28/03/2016 - 25/04/2016 
> *The Once and Future King* by T. H. White | 10/06/2015 - 29/09/2015 
> *Madame Bovary* by Gustave Flaubert | 29/02/2016 - 27/03/2016
>
> Any ideas what is going on here?
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread michaelharrison619
Mark,

Thank you, that method looks like it should work. Having tried it though, I 
find myself running into a bit of an issue. I have updated my code to look 
like this:

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[!created]]">

//<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// <$view 
field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
<$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>



The !created is so that my most recently read books are on the top. 
However, while using sort[created] puts the tiddlers in sequential order:

*The Once and Future King* by T. H. White | 10/06/2015 - 29/09/2015 
*The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
*Madame Bovary* by Gustave Flaubert | 29/02/2016 - 27/03/2016 
*Tess of the d'Urbervilles* by Thomas Hardy | 28/03/2016 - 25/04/2016 
*The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
30/04/2016 
*Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016

Using sort[!created] seems to mix them up for some reason:

*Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
*The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
30/04/2016 
*The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
*Tess of the d'Urbervilles* by Thomas Hardy | 28/03/2016 - 25/04/2016 
*The Once and Future King* by T. H. White | 10/06/2015 - 29/09/2015 
*Madame Bovary* by Gustave Flaubert | 29/02/2016 - 27/03/2016

Any ideas what is going on here?

Thank you.

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
If your "finished" tiddlers were created on the same date they were 
finished, then sorting by "created" instead of "finished" should accomplish 
what you want. The "finished" field then becomes a link/descriptor field. 

For those tiddlers that you did not create on the actual finish date, you 
can go and tweak the "created" date so that they are in sync. The created 
date can be revealed by changing the contents of the shadow tiddler

$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/created

Please specify if there is something wrong with this approach, since it 
seems like it should match up closely to what you want. Of course, if you 
made all those tiddlers on days different from their date stamp, then that 
won't work.


Good Luck,
Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:45:25 AM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Thank you, everyone, for your input, but--and I may be mistaken--I think 
> this may have gotten off topic somewhere. I am not trying to change my 
> journal tiddlers (if I can help it). I am trying to make a list of books I 
> have read, each as its own tiddler, and organized by the date I finished 
> the book. 
>
> Again, here is the code I am using:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// by <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> At the moment, I get a list like this:
>
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016
>
> I am trying to find a way to get this list in chronological order, rather 
> then numerical. However, I am trying to keep the dd/mm/ format, so I 
> can use the dates as links to my journal entries.
>
> Does this make sense?
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread michaelharrison619
Thank you, everyone, for your input, but--and I may be mistaken--I think 
this may have gotten off topic somewhere. I am not trying to change my 
journal tiddlers (if I can help it). I am trying to make a list of books I 
have read, each as its own tiddler, and organized by the date I finished 
the book. 

Again, here is the code I am using:

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">

//<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// by <$view 
field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
<$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>



At the moment, I get a list like this:

*Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
*The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
*The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
30/04/2016

I am trying to find a way to get this list in chronological order, rather 
then numerical. However, I am trying to keep the dd/mm/ format, so I 
can use the dates as links to my journal entries.

Does this make sense?

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
... or sort[created] for the creation date. 

You can also make the created date visible by changing the value of 
$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/created to "show". That would allow 
you to fix those journal entries that had been created out of order. You 
have to be careful not to delete any of the digits. But if you just change 
the first 8, you should be all right. I believe the first 8 digits are in 
mmdd order.

Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 6:42:05 AM UTC-7, The Bo wrote:
>
> If your "finished"-field is identical to your last modification you could 
> try sort[modified].
>
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread The Bo
If your "finished"-field is identical to your last modification you could 
try sort[modified].

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread progetti
michaelha... & PMario

i am not a programmer BUT isn't the fact that these JOURNAL entries were 
CREATED at certain exact times recorded at that moment into a (hidden) 
field? Could they not be sorted by that?

josiah

On Wednesday, 18 May 2016 15:06:32 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 2:44:55 PM UTC+2, michaelha...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your help. Unfortunately I have about three and a half 
>> years worth of journal tiddlers already, and renaming all of those for the 
>> sake of one list really does not seem efficient. I expect I will just have 
>> to find some other way of organizing the information.
>>
>
> Yea, that hurts. ... So we have to think about a better solution :/
>
> may be improving the sort[] filter parameter. It may be useful in 
> general. 
>
> What do the "filter gurus" think??
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread PMario
may be an extension similar to sortby: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#sortby%20Operator:[[sortby%20Operator]]%20[[sortby%20Operator%20%28Examples%29]]

eg: sortbydate[DD/MM/] or so




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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 2:44:55 PM UTC+2, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Thank you for your help. Unfortunately I have about three and a half years 
> worth of journal tiddlers already, and renaming all of those for the sake 
> of one list really does not seem efficient. I expect I will just have to 
> find some other way of organizing the information.
>

Yea, that hurts. ... So we have to think about a better solution :/

may be improving the sort[] filter parameter. It may be useful in general. 

What do the "filter gurus" think??
-m

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread michaelharrison619
Mario,

Thank you for your help. Unfortunately I have about three and a half years 
worth of journal tiddlers already, and renaming all of those for the sake 
of one list really does not seem efficient. I expect I will just have to 
find some other way of organizing the information.

Thanks,

Michael

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 1:54:36 PM UTC+2, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Thank you for your suggestion. While that is certainly something I can 
> try, my difficulty stems from the fact that my journal tiddlers are titled 
> in a dd/mm/ format.
>

I see!
 

> If I was to list the dates in the "began" and "finished" fields as 
> /MM/DD, then they would no longer function as links. Is there any way 
> around this?
>

You can open the control panel and set the "Title of new journal tiddlers" 
setting to: /0MM/0DD So they will be created in the same way. 
see: http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel

I know that's not really a good solution if you already have a lot of 
journal tiddlers. ... It may be a lot of work but probably less, than 
changing TWs behaviour. 

-m

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread michaelharrison619

Mario,

Thank you for your suggestion. While that is certainly something I can try, 
my difficulty stems from the fact that my journal tiddlers are titled in a 
dd/mm/ format. If I was to list the dates in the "began" and "finished" 
fields as /MM/DD, then they would no longer function as links. Is there 
any way around this?

Thank you,

Michael

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

2016-05-18 Thread PMario
Hi Michael,

TW doesnt know that your field should be interpreted as a date, So the sort 
order is alphabetical.

You can use /MM/DD  as a format. It will still be sorted alphabetically 
but this time it works, since this format naturally sorts. 

have fun!
mario

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