[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-16 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ok. After upgrading and installing the plugin it works. Thanks!

Mark

On Monday, September 15, 2014 8:50:00 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 the plugin was build for 5.0.16 or greater. 
 you also need to copy (drag to your tw) the plugin from the demo - 
 $:/plugins/bj/tiddlyclip 
 http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Ftiddlyclip, 
 from the 'getting started' tiddler
 cheers

 BJ

 On Monday, September 15, 2014 6:11:53 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello BJ,

 I couldn't get the add-on to dock to anything other than the site on 
 tiddlyspot. Is the version imiportant? Working with 5.0.15-beta and FF 
 27.0.1. 

 The add-on did work for clipping text to the tiddlyclip page, so the 
 add-on works partially.

 Thanks,
 Mark

 On Monday, September 15, 2014 12:38:47 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

 HI Mark,
 if you are using firefox there is now  a addon/plugin that enables 
 tiddlers to to import based on a tag.
 it can be found here:
 http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/
 cheers

 BJ

 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:58:22 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing 
 a set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with 
 the output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as 
 a particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-15 Thread BJ
HI Mark,
if you are using firefox there is now  a addon/plugin that enables tiddlers 
to to import based on a tag.
it can be found here:
http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/
cheers

BJ

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:58:22 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, but 
 haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hello c pa,

I tried this, but nothing seemed to happen -- not even an empty TW. Perhaps 
some other magic setting?

To me, an information manager without an export function is like a house 
without a front door. Sure you can break the windows and grab whatever you 
need, but somehow it doesn't seem right.

Thanks!
Mark


On Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:31:32 PM UTC-8, c pa wrote:

 Good point. I waded through the items that lead to that button working as 
 follows:

 * GettingStarted is composed of a set of tabs listing all tiddlers with a 
 name starting with GettingStarted -
 * GettingStarted - TiddlyFox is composed of Saving with TiddlyFox
 * Saving with TiddlyFox points to $:/editions/
 tw5.com/snippets/download-empty-button
 * $:/editions/tw5.com/snippets/download-empty-button has 
 param=$:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty
 * $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty is the tiddler that you need to edit 
 and then you need to understand the filter language to do it

 * I'm guessing that the correct code would be to create a new tiddler 
 downloadList with contents like: (More seasoned guys chime in)

 \define saveTiddlerFilter()
 [[$:/core]] [[$:/isEncrypted]] [[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/snowwhite]] 
 [[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla]] -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] 
 -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] 
 -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] +[!!Put your filter here!!]  +[sort[title]]
 \end
 \define savingEmpty()
 yes
 \end
 {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

 And then call it in another tiddler with

 $button message=tm-download-file param=downloadList 
 class=tc-btn-big-greenDownload Empty + My List 
 {{$:/core/images/save-button}}/$button



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hello BJ,

I couldn't get the add-on to dock to anything other than the site on 
tiddlyspot. Is the version imiportant? Working with 5.0.15-beta and FF 
27.0.1. 

The add-on did work for clipping text to the tiddlyclip page, so the add-on 
works partially.

Thanks,
Mark

On Monday, September 15, 2014 12:38:47 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

 HI Mark,
 if you are using firefox there is now  a addon/plugin that enables 
 tiddlers to to import based on a tag.
 it can be found here:
 http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/
 cheers

 BJ

 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:58:22 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-15 Thread BJ
Hi Mark,
the plugin was build for 5.0.16 or greater. 
you also need to copy (drag to your tw) the plugin from the demo - 
$:/plugins/bj/tiddlyclip 
http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Ftiddlyclip, 
from the 'getting started' tiddler
cheers

BJ

On Monday, September 15, 2014 6:11:53 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello BJ,

 I couldn't get the add-on to dock to anything other than the site on 
 tiddlyspot. Is the version imiportant? Working with 5.0.15-beta and FF 
 27.0.1. 

 The add-on did work for clipping text to the tiddlyclip page, so the 
 add-on works partially.

 Thanks,
 Mark

 On Monday, September 15, 2014 12:38:47 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

 HI Mark,
 if you are using firefox there is now  a addon/plugin that enables 
 tiddlers to to import based on a tag.
 it can be found here:
 http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/
 cheers

 BJ

 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:58:22 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-14 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Now that I've had a chance to look at it, I find that there is no button 
activation code that I can borrow. Trying to look at it in the javascript 
debugger, I see a button that doesn't activate anything with some enclosed 
SVG that draws the button. S  what do I actually do to invoke the 
macro?

Thanks again!
Mark


On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:43:40 PM UTC-8, James Anderson wrote:

 It's triggered by the big green button here: 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted

 By default it downloads a new version of TW containing no tiddlers. If you 
 edit it in the way i suggested it will contain only tiddlers marked with 
 the introduction tag.

 On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 12:42:07 UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:

 Thank you for your response.

 I'm surprised that a task so important is buried so deeply. When 
 evaluating information managers (and I've looked at dozens) one of the 
 first things I do is consider how I can get my data in/out in the event 
 that the software is no longer supported. I can't be the only one looking 
 for this feature.

 What is the empty save? How is it triggered?

 Thanks again,
 Mark

 On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:44:59 PM UTC-8, James Anderson wrote:

 looking at $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty might help you (on 
 tiddlywiki.com)

 if you add [tag[introduction]]  to the \define saveTiddlerFilter() macro 
 you will include all tiddlers tagged with introduction to the empty save.


 On Monday, 1 September 2014 23:58:22 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing 
 a set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with 
 the output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as 
 a particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-14 Thread 'c pa' via TiddlyWiki
Good point. I waded through the items that lead to that button working as 
follows:

* GettingStarted is composed of a set of tabs listing all tiddlers with a 
name starting with GettingStarted -
* GettingStarted - TiddlyFox is composed of Saving with TiddlyFox
* Saving with TiddlyFox points to 
$:/editions/tw5.com/snippets/download-empty-button
* $:/editions/tw5.com/snippets/download-empty-button has 
param=$:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty
* $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty is the tiddler that you need to edit 
and then you need to understand the filter language to do it

* I'm guessing that the correct code would be to create a new tiddler 
downloadList with contents like: (More seasoned guys chime in)

\define saveTiddlerFilter()
[[$:/core]] [[$:/isEncrypted]] [[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/snowwhite]] 
[[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla]] -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] 
-[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] 
-[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] +[!!Put your filter here!!]  +[sort[title]]
\end
\define savingEmpty()
yes
\end
{{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

And then call it in another tiddler with

$button message=tm-download-file param=downloadList 
class=tc-btn-big-greenDownload Empty + My List 
{{$:/core/images/save-button}}/$button

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-03 Thread James Anderson
It's triggered by the big green button 
here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted

By default it downloads a new version of TW containing no tiddlers. If you 
edit it in the way i suggested it will contain only tiddlers marked with 
the introduction tag.

On Wednesday, 3 September 2014 12:42:07 UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:

 Thank you for your response.

 I'm surprised that a task so important is buried so deeply. When 
 evaluating information managers (and I've looked at dozens) one of the 
 first things I do is consider how I can get my data in/out in the event 
 that the software is no longer supported. I can't be the only one looking 
 for this feature.

 What is the empty save? How is it triggered?

 Thanks again,
 Mark

 On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:44:59 PM UTC-8, James Anderson wrote:

 looking at $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty might help you (on 
 tiddlywiki.com)

 if you add [tag[introduction]]  to the \define saveTiddlerFilter() macro 
 you will include all tiddlers tagged with introduction to the empty save.


 On Monday, 1 September 2014 23:58:22 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-03 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Thank you James!
I think this deserves a plugin that lets you download what you want. Looks 
very easy to implement.

El martes, 2 de septiembre de 2014 09:44:59 UTC+2, James Anderson escribió:

 looking at $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty might help you (on 
 tiddlywiki.com)

 if you add [tag[introduction]]  to the \define saveTiddlerFilter() macro 
 you will include all tiddlers tagged with introduction to the empty save.


 On Monday, 1 September 2014 23:58:22 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-03 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:42:07 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 I'm surprised that a task so important is buried so deeply. When 
 evaluating information managers (and I've looked at dozens) one of the 
 first things I do is consider how I can get my data in/out in the event 
 that the software is no longer supported. I can't be the only one looking 
 for this feature.


TW is a text file based software. So there is no backend where you would 
need to get your data out. Just store the TW file on several harddisks and 
you are good to go. 
If browsers refuse to open html files in the future, use a text editor. All 
your content will be there. 

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-03 Thread Branimir Braykov
I think this deserves to go in a FAQ place somewhere.
It is a very good question. And there might be many more reasons for 
someone to want to export tiddlers.
One would be to split a wiki in two (or more) when while the wiki is 
growing the author(s) start to realize that some topic categories deserve a 
wiki themselves.
Of course other resolutions could be suggested, e.g. in my example, to just 
copy a wolo and then delete from each wiki the relevant tiddlers.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-03 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The plan is to add an export facility, as described in my response to this
ticket:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/781

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Branimir Braykov bray...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think this deserves to go in a FAQ place somewhere.
 It is a very good question. And there might be many more reasons for
 someone to want to export tiddlers.
 One would be to split a wiki in two (or more) when while the wiki is
 growing the author(s) start to realize that some topic categories deserve a
 wiki themselves.
 Of course other resolutions could be suggested, e.g. in my example, to
 just copy a wolo and then delete from each wiki the relevant tiddlers.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-02 Thread James Anderson
looking at $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty might help you (on 
tiddlywiki.com)

if you add [tag[introduction]]  to the \define saveTiddlerFilter() macro 
you will include all tiddlers tagged with introduction to the empty save.


On Monday, 1 September 2014 23:58:22 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, but 
 haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to import/export subset of tiddlers?

2014-09-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Thank you for your response.

I'm surprised that a task so important is buried so deeply. When evaluating 
information managers (and I've looked at dozens) one of the first things I 
do is consider how I can get my data in/out in the event that the software 
is no longer supported. I can't be the only one looking for this feature.

What is the empty save? How is it triggered?

Thanks again,
Mark

On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:44:59 PM UTC-8, James Anderson wrote:

 looking at $:/editions/tw5.com/download-empty might help you (on 
 tiddlywiki.com)

 if you add [tag[introduction]]  to the \define saveTiddlerFilter() macro 
 you will include all tiddlers tagged with introduction to the empty save.


 On Monday, 1 September 2014 23:58:22 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello,

 I've looked through the information at tiddlywiki.com and this forum, 
 but haven't seen this directly addressed. 

 Is there a standard method or known plugin for exporting and importing a 
 set (probably tagged) of tiddlers? In this case, I'm not concerned with the 
 output/input format -- I'm mostly concerned about managing tiddlers as a 
 particular page becomes too large.

 Thank you,
 Mark



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