Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread Finn Lancaster
Fred: Already in-progress. Also, I just made a new thread on oral commands 
with the plugin in the new update. I am interested to hear what you have to 
say about it, and would love someone to get a conversation going there so 
others see and give more feedback.

The new thread it at https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/3O0eT4K5mkI

On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 9:57:31 PM UTC-4 fred@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the speech-to-text plugin, quite impressive from my early 
> trials (chrome). As a couple people have suggested, I think an editor 
> toolbar button/keyboard shortcut to insert the transcript text in the 
> current tiddler's text field (where the cursor is?) would be neat and be 
> best for me.  I'm happy to try mod'ing myself unless you've already got 
> plans. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 19:10:24 UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Something along those lines. My next goal, as I've shared with BTC, is to 
>> allow users to assign their own commands via tiddler inputs, and 
>> essentially, when they speak these commands out-loud via the plugin, the 
>> plugin then executes the command. I've started a minimal implementation of 
>> this with the new release (GH pages is acting up, so drag and drop may not 
>> be available for a while), which allows to users to speak "change the 
>> language to X" and the language will change if available, all that's needed 
>> is the custom-input ones :)
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:57:15 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Flanc,
>>>
>>> I was not after language switching, but are you suggesting we change 
>>> from text dictation, to a tiddlywiki command, using the same mechaisium?
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 11 August 2021 at 08:53:42 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Tones, way ahead of you :) Already added command functionality for 
 language switching in new release. Updating Github Pages so drag and drop 
 is on correct version right now!

 On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:49:32 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Flanc
>
> I think a design configuration is how do we trigger a more involved 
> "command" on tiddlywiki. Perhaps we should leverage the existing keyboard 
> shortcuts, such that either one can speak eg alt-space then the user can 
> assign whatever they wish in response to that, ie trigger a set of 
> actions. 
> Of course in time "close tiddler" etc would be nice, but I think the key 
> is 
> the escape process, so lets say one can happily dictate any thing, except 
> "OK TiddlyWiki" in which case rather than dictate into the current text 
> field a dialogue opens in which the same dictation can search for any 
> tiddlywiki designed terms, eg ok tiddlywiki, new tiddler (which you see 
> on 
> screen). 
>
> We have a way to detect what I call the focused tiddler eg;  
> {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}}, for which such "ok tiddlywiki" can 
> be 
> designed to use as currentTiddler.
>
> The TiddlyWiki command plugin and others may be a short cut for us, to 
> jump into, to move from dictation to commands. One could imagine where 
> the 
> user can assign what action or keyboard shortcut could be used as a 
> result 
> of "OK tiddlywiki". Only later we could see how to get the commands 
> recognised in the middle of dictation, but I expect we still need this 
> escape method.
>
> Regards
> Tony
> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 22:57:36 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>>
>> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
>> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>>
>> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I 
>> will set to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>>
>> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to 
>> check the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array 
>> of 
>> word/s it will the execute a command. 
>>
>> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any 
>> other devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel 
>> free to chime in there. 
>>
>> Thanks again! 
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>>>
>>> Another few ideas and comments:
>>>
>>> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor 
>>> and not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
>>> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
>>> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on 
>>> the Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to 

Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread Frédéric Demers
Thanks for the speech-to-text plugin, quite impressive from my early trials 
(chrome). As a couple people have suggested, I think an editor toolbar 
button/keyboard shortcut to insert the transcript text in the current 
tiddler's text field (where the cursor is?) would be neat and be best for 
me.  I'm happy to try mod'ing myself unless you've already got plans. 


On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 19:10:24 UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Something along those lines. My next goal, as I've shared with BTC, is to 
> allow users to assign their own commands via tiddler inputs, and 
> essentially, when they speak these commands out-loud via the plugin, the 
> plugin then executes the command. I've started a minimal implementation of 
> this with the new release (GH pages is acting up, so drag and drop may not 
> be available for a while), which allows to users to speak "change the 
> language to X" and the language will change if available, all that's needed 
> is the custom-input ones :)
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:57:15 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Flanc,
>>
>> I was not after language switching, but are you suggesting we change from 
>> text dictation, to a tiddlywiki command, using the same mechaisium?
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Wednesday, 11 August 2021 at 08:53:42 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Tones, way ahead of you :) Already added command functionality for 
>>> language switching in new release. Updating Github Pages so drag and drop 
>>> is on correct version right now!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:49:32 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Flanc

 I think a design configuration is how do we trigger a more involved 
 "command" on tiddlywiki. Perhaps we should leverage the existing keyboard 
 shortcuts, such that either one can speak eg alt-space then the user can 
 assign whatever they wish in response to that, ie trigger a set of 
 actions. 
 Of course in time "close tiddler" etc would be nice, but I think the key 
 is 
 the escape process, so lets say one can happily dictate any thing, except 
 "OK TiddlyWiki" in which case rather than dictate into the current text 
 field a dialogue opens in which the same dictation can search for any 
 tiddlywiki designed terms, eg ok tiddlywiki, new tiddler (which you see on 
 screen). 

 We have a way to detect what I call the focused tiddler eg;  
 {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}}, for which such "ok tiddlywiki" can be 
 designed to use as currentTiddler.

 The TiddlyWiki command plugin and others may be a short cut for us, to 
 jump into, to move from dictation to commands. One could imagine where the 
 user can assign what action or keyboard shortcut could be used as a result 
 of "OK tiddlywiki". Only later we could see how to get the commands 
 recognised in the middle of dictation, but I expect we still need this 
 escape method.

 Regards
 Tony
 On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 22:57:36 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>
> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>
> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will 
> set to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>
> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to 
> check the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array 
> of 
> word/s it will the execute a command. 
>
> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any 
> other devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel 
> free to chime in there. 
>
> Thanks again! 
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>
>> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>>
>> Another few ideas and comments:
>>
>> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor 
>> and not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
>> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
>> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on 
>> the Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the 
>> languageCode parameter manually (fully list at: 
>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
>> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added 
>> using 
>> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
>> based on their own needs?
>> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web 
>> Speech API demo at 
>> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is a great 
>> way of checking for browser 

Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread Finn Lancaster
Something along those lines. My next goal, as I've shared with BTC, is to 
allow users to assign their own commands via tiddler inputs, and 
essentially, when they speak these commands out-loud via the plugin, the 
plugin then executes the command. I've started a minimal implementation of 
this with the new release (GH pages is acting up, so drag and drop may not 
be available for a while), which allows to users to speak "change the 
language to X" and the language will change if available, all that's needed 
is the custom-input ones :)

On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:57:15 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Flanc,
>
> I was not after language switching, but are you suggesting we change from 
> text dictation, to a tiddlywiki command, using the same mechaisium?
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 11 August 2021 at 08:53:42 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Tones, way ahead of you :) Already added command functionality for 
>> language switching in new release. Updating Github Pages so drag and drop 
>> is on correct version right now!
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:49:32 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Flanc
>>>
>>> I think a design configuration is how do we trigger a more involved 
>>> "command" on tiddlywiki. Perhaps we should leverage the existing keyboard 
>>> shortcuts, such that either one can speak eg alt-space then the user can 
>>> assign whatever they wish in response to that, ie trigger a set of actions. 
>>> Of course in time "close tiddler" etc would be nice, but I think the key is 
>>> the escape process, so lets say one can happily dictate any thing, except 
>>> "OK TiddlyWiki" in which case rather than dictate into the current text 
>>> field a dialogue opens in which the same dictation can search for any 
>>> tiddlywiki designed terms, eg ok tiddlywiki, new tiddler (which you see on 
>>> screen). 
>>>
>>> We have a way to detect what I call the focused tiddler eg;  
>>> {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}}, for which such "ok tiddlywiki" can be 
>>> designed to use as currentTiddler.
>>>
>>> The TiddlyWiki command plugin and others may be a short cut for us, to 
>>> jump into, to move from dictation to commands. One could imagine where the 
>>> user can assign what action or keyboard shortcut could be used as a result 
>>> of "OK tiddlywiki". Only later we could see how to get the commands 
>>> recognised in the middle of dictation, but I expect we still need this 
>>> escape method.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 22:57:36 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thanks everyone for the great advice! 

 My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
 punctuation, language switch, etc. 

 As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will 
 set to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 

 To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check 
 the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of 
 word/s 
 it will the execute a command. 

 BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other 
 devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to 
 chime in there. 

 Thanks again! 

 On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:

> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>
> Another few ideas and comments:
>
> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor 
> and not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the 
> Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
> parameter manually (fully list at: 
> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added 
> using 
> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
> based on their own needs?
> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web 
> Speech API demo at 
> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is a great 
> way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything that 
> works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is unsupported 
> and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the API on my 
> system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid V1.0 
> doesn't 
> work either :(
> (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while 
> recording, this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but 
> also to enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on 
> the 
> 

Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TW Tones
Flanc,

I was not after language switching, but are you suggesting we change from 
text dictation, to a tiddlywiki command, using the same mechaisium?

Tones

On Wednesday, 11 August 2021 at 08:53:42 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Tones, way ahead of you :) Already added command functionality for 
> language switching in new release. Updating Github Pages so drag and drop 
> is on correct version right now!
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:49:32 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Flanc
>>
>> I think a design configuration is how do we trigger a more involved 
>> "command" on tiddlywiki. Perhaps we should leverage the existing keyboard 
>> shortcuts, such that either one can speak eg alt-space then the user can 
>> assign whatever they wish in response to that, ie trigger a set of actions. 
>> Of course in time "close tiddler" etc would be nice, but I think the key is 
>> the escape process, so lets say one can happily dictate any thing, except 
>> "OK TiddlyWiki" in which case rather than dictate into the current text 
>> field a dialogue opens in which the same dictation can search for any 
>> tiddlywiki designed terms, eg ok tiddlywiki, new tiddler (which you see on 
>> screen). 
>>
>> We have a way to detect what I call the focused tiddler eg;  
>> {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}}, for which such "ok tiddlywiki" can be 
>> designed to use as currentTiddler.
>>
>> The TiddlyWiki command plugin and others may be a short cut for us, to 
>> jump into, to move from dictation to commands. One could imagine where the 
>> user can assign what action or keyboard shortcut could be used as a result 
>> of "OK tiddlywiki". Only later we could see how to get the commands 
>> recognised in the middle of dictation, but I expect we still need this 
>> escape method.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 22:57:36 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>>>
>>> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
>>> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>>>
>>> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will 
>>> set to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>>>
>>> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check 
>>> the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of word/s 
>>> it will the execute a command. 
>>>
>>> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other 
>>> devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to 
>>> chime in there. 
>>>
>>> Thanks again! 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!

 Another few ideas and comments:

 (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and 
 not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
 (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
 https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
 (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the 
 Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
 parameter manually (fully list at: 
 https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
 happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using 
 only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
 based on their own needs?
 (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech 
 API demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is 
 a great way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found 
 anything 
 that works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is 
 unsupported and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the 
 API on my system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid 
 V1.0 doesn't work either :(
 (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while 
 recording, this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but 
 also to enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the 
 fly within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
 (7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on 
 the plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.

 Thanks :)
 R²

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread Finn Lancaster
@Tones, way ahead of you :) Already added command functionality for 
language switching in new release. Updating Github Pages so drag and drop 
is on correct version right now!

On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:49:32 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Flanc
>
> I think a design configuration is how do we trigger a more involved 
> "command" on tiddlywiki. Perhaps we should leverage the existing keyboard 
> shortcuts, such that either one can speak eg alt-space then the user can 
> assign whatever they wish in response to that, ie trigger a set of actions. 
> Of course in time "close tiddler" etc would be nice, but I think the key is 
> the escape process, so lets say one can happily dictate any thing, except 
> "OK TiddlyWiki" in which case rather than dictate into the current text 
> field a dialogue opens in which the same dictation can search for any 
> tiddlywiki designed terms, eg ok tiddlywiki, new tiddler (which you see on 
> screen). 
>
> We have a way to detect what I call the focused tiddler eg;  
> {{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}}, for which such "ok tiddlywiki" can be 
> designed to use as currentTiddler.
>
> The TiddlyWiki command plugin and others may be a short cut for us, to 
> jump into, to move from dictation to commands. One could imagine where the 
> user can assign what action or keyboard shortcut could be used as a result 
> of "OK tiddlywiki". Only later we could see how to get the commands 
> recognised in the middle of dictation, but I expect we still need this 
> escape method.
>
> Regards
> Tony
> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 22:57:36 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>>
>> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
>> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>>
>> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will 
>> set to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>>
>> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check 
>> the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of word/s 
>> it will the execute a command. 
>>
>> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other 
>> devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to 
>> chime in there. 
>>
>> Thanks again! 
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>>>
>>> Another few ideas and comments:
>>>
>>> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and 
>>> not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
>>> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
>>> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the 
>>> Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
>>> parameter manually (fully list at: 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
>>> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using 
>>> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
>>> based on their own needs?
>>> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech 
>>> API demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is 
>>> a great way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything 
>>> that works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is 
>>> unsupported and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the 
>>> API on my system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid 
>>> V1.0 doesn't work either :(
>>> (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while 
>>> recording, this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but 
>>> also to enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the 
>>> fly within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
>>> (7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on 
>>> the plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>> R²
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TW Tones
Flanc

I think a design configuration is how do we trigger a more involved 
"command" on tiddlywiki. Perhaps we should leverage the existing keyboard 
shortcuts, such that either one can speak eg alt-space then the user can 
assign whatever they wish in response to that, ie trigger a set of actions. 
Of course in time "close tiddler" etc would be nice, but I think the key is 
the escape process, so lets say one can happily dictate any thing, except 
"OK TiddlyWiki" in which case rather than dictate into the current text 
field a dialogue opens in which the same dictation can search for any 
tiddlywiki designed terms, eg ok tiddlywiki, new tiddler (which you see on 
screen). 

We have a way to detect what I call the focused tiddler eg;  
{{$:/HistoryList!!current-tiddler}}, for which such "ok tiddlywiki" can be 
designed to use as currentTiddler.

The TiddlyWiki command plugin and others may be a short cut for us, to jump 
into, to move from dictation to commands. One could imagine where the user 
can assign what action or keyboard shortcut could be used as a result of 
"OK tiddlywiki". Only later we could see how to get the commands recognised 
in the middle of dictation, but I expect we still need this escape method.

Regards
Tony
On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 22:57:36 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>
> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>
> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will set 
> to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>
> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check 
> the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of word/s 
> it will the execute a command. 
>
> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other 
> devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to 
> chime in there. 
>
> Thanks again! 
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>
>> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>>
>> Another few ideas and comments:
>>
>> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and 
>> not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
>> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
>> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the 
>> Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
>> parameter manually (fully list at: 
>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
>> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using 
>> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
>> based on their own needs?
>> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech 
>> API demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is a 
>> great way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything 
>> that works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is 
>> unsupported and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the 
>> API on my system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid 
>> V1.0 doesn't work either :(
>> (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while 
>> recording, this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but 
>> also to enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the 
>> fly within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
>> (7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on 
>> the plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.
>>
>> Thanks :)
>> R²
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread Télumire
Hello @Flanc,

I just tested the demo and this works really well with french (with chrome, 
it didn't work with Firefox). Being able to see the live transcript would 
be even better (to see if the recording works properly), but this is 
already awesome. Great work! :) 

Le mardi 10 août 2021 à 15:21:18 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter a écrit :

> flanc ...
>
> I'm NOT a dev. 
>
> The thing you done already is brilliant!!
> In practice PUNCTUATION matters to me to notch it up, After that, that I 
> can be recognized in the Italian LANGUAGE.
> Anything more is more icing on the cake. 
>
> NB: Having it in editor is low priority for me. 
> It is Good Enough Already transcribing the lingo per me (for me) to a 
> simple Tiddler.
>
> Just a comment.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 14:57:36 UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>>
>> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
>> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>>
>> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will 
>> set to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>>
>> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check 
>> the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of word/s 
>> it will the execute a command. 
>>
>> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other 
>> devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to 
>> chime in there. 
>>
>> Thanks again! 
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>>>
>>> Another few ideas and comments:
>>>
>>> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and 
>>> not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
>>> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
>>> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the 
>>> Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
>>> parameter manually (fully list at: 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
>>> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using 
>>> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
>>> based on their own needs?
>>> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech 
>>> API demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is 
>>> a great way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything 
>>> that works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is 
>>> unsupported and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the 
>>> API on my system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid 
>>> V1.0 doesn't work either :(
>>> (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while 
>>> recording, this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but 
>>> also to enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the 
>>> fly within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
>>> (7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on 
>>> the plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>> R²
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
flanc ...

I'm NOT a dev. 

The thing you done already is brilliant!!
In practice PUNCTUATION matters to me to notch it up, After that, that I 
can be recognized in the Italian LANGUAGE.
Anything more is more icing on the cake. 

NB: Having it in editor is low priority for me. 
It is Good Enough Already transcribing the lingo per me (for me) to a 
simple Tiddler.

Just a comment.

Best wishes
TT

On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 14:57:36 UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the great advice! 
>
> My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands: 
> punctuation, language switch, etc. 
>
> As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will set 
> to work immediately reading documentation and example code. 
>
> To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check 
> the last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of word/s 
> it will the execute a command. 
>
> BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other 
> devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to 
> chime in there. 
>
> Thanks again! 
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:
>
>> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>>
>> Another few ideas and comments:
>>
>> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and 
>> not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
>> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
>> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the 
>> Web Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
>> parameter manually (fully list at: 
>> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this 
>> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using 
>> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons 
>> based on their own needs?
>> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech 
>> API demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is a 
>> great way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything 
>> that works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is 
>> unsupported and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the 
>> API on my system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid 
>> V1.0 doesn't work either :(
>> (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while 
>> recording, this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but 
>> also to enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the 
>> fly within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
>> (7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on 
>> the plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.
>>
>> Thanks :)
>> R²
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Flank & BTC

Underlying my previous on ITALIANO issues ... 

It would be great if I could sing in the lyrics for Adriano Celantano's MA 
PERKE  ... starting ...

  Su confessa amore mio
  Io non sono più il solo, l'unico
  Hai nascosto nel cuore tuo
  Una storia irrinunciabile
  Io non sono più il tuo pensiero
  Non sono più il tuo amore vero
  Sono il dolce con fondo amaro
  Che non mangi più ...

*Confesso di richieste irragionevoli.*
TT


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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread Finn Lancaster
Thanks everyone for the great advice!

My main takeaways for what I will start working on are commands:
punctuation, language switch, etc.

As this is on the side of the things I develop for the plug-in, I will set
to work immediately reading documentation and example code.

To get more technical,  I believe I can just attach a function to check the
last word of the transcription, and if it matches a set array of word/s it
will the execute a command.

BTC and I continue to talk on the Issues page of the repo, if any other
devs would like to chime in with other ideas/implementation, feel free to
chime in there.

Thanks again!

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 6:32 AM R²  wrote:

> Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!
>
> Another few ideas and comments:
>
> (1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and
> not only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
> (2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per
> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
> (3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the Web
> Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode
> parameter manually (fully list at:
> https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this
> happens, could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using
> only wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons
> based on their own needs?
> (5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech
> API demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is a
> great way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything
> that works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is
> unsupported and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the
> API on my system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid
> V1.0 doesn't work either :(
> (6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while recording,
> this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but also to
> enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the fly
> within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
> (7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on
> the plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.
>
> Thanks :)
> R²
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread
Hi all and thanks Flank & BTC for this extremely promising plugin!

Another few ideas and comments:

(1) It would be nice to have a record button directly in the editor and not 
only have to rely on creating new transcript tiddlers.
(2) Automatic punctuation should be easy to switch on and off as per 
https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/automatic-punctuation.
(3) There are quite a number of languages and accents available on the Web 
Speech API demo. It would be nice to be able to set the languageCode 
parameter manually (fully list at: 
https://cloud.google.com/speech-to-text/docs/languages). When this happens, 
could you make sure that custom record buttons can be added using only 
wikitext to allow multilingual users to have several record buttons based 
on their own needs?
(5) It could be worth mentioning in the readme that Google's Web Speech API 
demo at https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/demos/speech.html is a great 
way of checking for browser compatibility. I haven't found anything that 
works on my Linux system by the way. Any ideas as Firefox is unsupported 
and even Chromium strangely doesn't seem to be able to run the API on my 
system (V. 91.0.4472.114 on Linux Mint)? On my phone, Quinoid V1.0 doesn't 
work either :(
(6) Bouncing on TT's idea of using speech-driven commands while recording, 
this would make terrific sense not only for punctuation, but also to 
enunciate proper nouns for instance, or to switch languages on the fly 
within a given recording or prior to a recording ("switchtoItalian"…).
(7) I'm still running into problems regarding the short hearing span on the 
plugin's TW demo despite the version being seemingly v. 1.0.3.

Thanks :)
R²

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread ludwa6
I'm not sure @BurningTreeC / @Flanc if the misunderstanding about iOS is on 
my side or yours, but the problem w/ using this plugin on that platform is 
not about voice (Siri works fine), but rather about file saving & sync; in 
that respect, neither Safari nor Chrome on iOS can do the job, for reasons 
i don't entirely understand, but will tell you what i know.

There are many cloud-based apps on iOS that use Siri, which you can then 
access from your desktop, and always be working on the same copy... But 
this is not possible with TW, so what's needed is a files-based solution 
that will sync to desktop via some cloud service, like iCloud or Dropbox.

To that end: the only way i know how to do this is via the "Quine 2" app (a 
free download from the AppStore), which is purpose-built to do exactly this 
-and it does so beautifully.  Indeed: to enable mobile access to the full 
range of different TW instances i am managing -each with its own unique 
config of plugins/ theme/ templates- i've got the whole lot in a Quine 
folder on my iOS desktop volume, and they all work in Quine 2 just as 
nicely as they do in TiddlyDesktop (my power-tool for administrating these 
instances) -with the exception of this Speech-to-Text plugin, alas, which 
fails in a different way on each, i.e.:

   - In TiddlyDesktop, the mic icon light up red and says "Recording 
   started," but then goes dark and says "Stopped recording" in <1sec, w/o 
   creating a new tiddler.
   - In Quine 2, the mic icon turns from grey to black when i click it, but 
   nothing else happens after that.

Now i can't begin to guess why this doesn't "just work" the way all these 
other plugins do in Quine 2, but i can tell you that this app has a 
sizeable and quite active user community 
, in which developer Chris Hunt does 
a great job of responding to any issues that arise -and i would guess that 
he'd be as as interested as any of us here in the idea of bringing 
dictation capability to Quine 2.  

Tho i guess Android probably has more "pocket-share" than iOS in this TW 
community, let's face it: there's a whole lotta iPhone users out there for 
whom a mobile NoteTaking/ NoteMaking app *WITH voice dictation capability* 
would be a game changer indeed...So i really hope there's an easy way to 
get this wonderful plugin working in Quine 2! 

/walt



On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:18:35 AM UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:

> We haven't tested it on iOS, but it should work there when Siri is enabled
>
> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 10. August 2021 um 00:06:11 UTC+2:
>
>> flanc...
>>
>> Lovely, works well on windows/chrome browser as it does natively on 
>> Android. This is great.
>>
>> IoS users should look at apples native transcription on iPhone or mac or 
>> make use of this in chrome.
>>
>> I do think the current method hit mike and once you stop talking a 
>> transcript tiddler is great for quick notes. And is a required feature.
>> For me however I would like to keep taking indefinitely into a text 
>> field. Perhaps a seperate microphone button in the editor Toolbar could 
>> allow this different method.
>> Such that when clicked it listens and transcribes either immediately or 
>> after a pause, but reenters listening mode right away so we can continue. 
>>
>> This plugin and Googles current voice system are so good, even with my 
>> Australian accent, that it is a game changer. Finally voice dictation has 
>> come of age.
>>
>> *Futures*
>> Now we need to locate the methods by which to issue commands to 
>> tiddlywiki such done to save and close a tiddler etc... or issue shortcuts 
>> to tiddlywiki from a voice command. I think this is a separate and distinct 
>> function to the transcription. I am thinking of "control s" or "OK 
>> tiddlywiki" to accept voice commands. I imagine google has developed 
>> something within the transcription to support this?
>>
>> Thanks so much for being part of this game changer.
>> Tones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 07:15:00 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @David Grifford, 
>>>
>>> You should be able to run a test, right in the browser, at the demo site 
>>> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/.
>>>
>>> From there, you can also drag-and-drop the plug-in, etc. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 Looking forward to the demo site!

 On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>
> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
> , you can click 
> the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
> tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!
>
> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
> BurningTreeC's TW 

Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Again BTC & Flank

My one remaining saga is LANGUAGE.

I just can't figure out how to switch from  English to ITALIAN.
I'm UNCLEAR if that is an OS, BROWSER or PLUGIN thing?
I could not get it to work.
I did look at the docs for the API but its too technical for my brain to 
work it out.

SO: *Quick question, will we be able to change Language Recognized at will 
in a full-on version?*

Just wondering. 
Marvelous stuff, a Wondrous Machine. 


Best wishes
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Flank & BTC

These issues are maybe *more API than the plugin?* Dunno. But  I thought  I 
should ask about them ...

1 - PUNCTUATION. Say you dictating a long diatribe is there A WAY TO INSERT 
PUNCTUATION? Like* "punc-stop, punc-comma, punc-colon, punc-question"*

2 - NEW SENTENCE.   Say you dictating a long diatribe is there A WAY TO 
CAPITALIZE THE FIRST LETTER AFTER A STOP? (see 1, above)

*Minor points, but I think relevant.*

GREAT work by you two! This will change my TW usage significantly. 
Kudos!

TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
BTC & Flanc

Very timely! 

IT's ALIVE!   

FYI I been messing around with "speech-to-text" forever, and always ended 
up Waiting For The Miracle To Come 
. 

The miracle is here, now, speech recognition that works. 
That API does the biz.
Your implementation  is neat!

ONE thing is "vocabulary". My acid test on speech recog. is Jabberwocky 
 . The system does well with 
it ...* I get back from  it ...*

 >> ... twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe 
all mimsy were the borogoves and The Mome Raths outgrabe

*That is fantastically accurate!*

I'll comment more a bit later, after some more usage.

Very best
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
BurningTreeC wrote...

>
> Meanhwhile, I've released v1.0.2 of the plugin (now that we've already 
> released v1.0.0 we stick with the versioning)
> It now does no more stop listening after the first result ... it continues 
> listening until either a long timeout has passed or the record button is 
> clicked again
>

Brilliant! Tx BTC. I was about to complain that WAS the only major 
*offput. *
Changing that to continuous until long time-out is really ACE!

I will re-test with this new version and comment more later.

HATS OFF to both you and le Flanc.

Best wishes
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-10 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi @Tones

We're currently thinking about how to make such an Editor Toolbar button 
reality, which then updates the text field with the spoken text
It should be possible somehow

Meanhwhile, I've released v1.0.2 of the plugin (now that we've already 
released v1.0.0 we stick with the versioning)
It now does no more stop listening after the first result ... it continues 
listening until either a long timeout has passed or the record button is 
clicked again

What we could already do is making voice commands a reality
Do you have some ideas for useful commands?

best wishes, BTC

BurningTreeC schrieb am Dienstag, 10. August 2021 um 07:18:35 UTC+2:

> We haven't tested it on iOS, but it should work there when Siri is enabled
>
> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 10. August 2021 um 00:06:11 UTC+2:
>
>> flanc...
>>
>> Lovely, works well on windows/chrome browser as it does natively on 
>> Android. This is great.
>>
>> IoS users should look at apples native transcription on iPhone or mac or 
>> make use of this in chrome.
>>
>> I do think the current method hit mike and once you stop talking a 
>> transcript tiddler is great for quick notes. And is a required feature.
>> For me however I would like to keep taking indefinitely into a text 
>> field. Perhaps a seperate microphone button in the editor Toolbar could 
>> allow this different method.
>> Such that when clicked it listens and transcribes either immediately or 
>> after a pause, but reenters listening mode right away so we can continue. 
>>
>> This plugin and Googles current voice system are so good, even with my 
>> Australian accent, that it is a game changer. Finally voice dictation has 
>> come of age.
>>
>> *Futures*
>> Now we need to locate the methods by which to issue commands to 
>> tiddlywiki such done to save and close a tiddler etc... or issue shortcuts 
>> to tiddlywiki from a voice command. I think this is a separate and distinct 
>> function to the transcription. I am thinking of "control s" or "OK 
>> tiddlywiki" to accept voice commands. I imagine google has developed 
>> something within the transcription to support this?
>>
>> Thanks so much for being part of this game changer.
>> Tones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 07:15:00 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @David Grifford, 
>>>
>>> You should be able to run a test, right in the browser, at the demo site 
>>> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/.
>>>
>>> From there, you can also drag-and-drop the plug-in, etc. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 Looking forward to the demo site!

 On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>
> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
> , you can click 
> the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
> tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!
>
> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
> it is!
>
> The plugin can be found at 
> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where 
> documentation is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you 
> appreciate our work. 
>
> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in 
> GitHub. Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also 
> supported our project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>
> Enjoy!!
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread BurningTreeC
We haven't tested it on iOS, but it should work there when Siri is enabled

TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 10. August 2021 um 00:06:11 UTC+2:

> flanc...
>
> Lovely, works well on windows/chrome browser as it does natively on 
> Android. This is great.
>
> IoS users should look at apples native transcription on iPhone or mac or 
> make use of this in chrome.
>
> I do think the current method hit mike and once you stop talking a 
> transcript tiddler is great for quick notes. And is a required feature.
> For me however I would like to keep taking indefinitely into a text field. 
> Perhaps a seperate microphone button in the editor Toolbar could allow this 
> different method.
> Such that when clicked it listens and transcribes either immediately or 
> after a pause, but reenters listening mode right away so we can continue. 
>
> This plugin and Googles current voice system are so good, even with my 
> Australian accent, that it is a game changer. Finally voice dictation has 
> come of age.
>
> *Futures*
> Now we need to locate the methods by which to issue commands to tiddlywiki 
> such done to save and close a tiddler etc... or issue shortcuts to 
> tiddlywiki from a voice command. I think this is a separate and distinct 
> function to the transcription. I am thinking of "control s" or "OK 
> tiddlywiki" to accept voice commands. I imagine google has developed 
> something within the transcription to support this?
>
> Thanks so much for being part of this game changer.
> Tones
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 07:15:00 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @David Grifford, 
>>
>> You should be able to run a test, right in the browser, at the demo site 
>> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/.
>>
>> From there, you can also drag-and-drop the plug-in, etc. 
>>
>> Enjoy! 
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Looking forward to the demo site!
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*

 Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
 , you can click 
 the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
 tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!

 The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
 BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
 it is!

 The plugin can be found at 
 https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where 
 documentation is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you 
 appreciate our work. 

 Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
 Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
 project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 

 Enjoy!!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread TW Tones
flanc...

Lovely, works well on windows/chrome browser as it does natively on 
Android. This is great.

IoS users should look at apples native transcription on iPhone or mac or 
make use of this in chrome.

I do think the current method hit mike and once you stop talking a 
transcript tiddler is great for quick notes. And is a required feature.
For me however I would like to keep taking indefinitely into a text field. 
Perhaps a seperate microphone button in the editor Toolbar could allow this 
different method.
Such that when clicked it listens and transcribes either immediately or 
after a pause, but reenters listening mode right away so we can continue. 

This plugin and Googles current voice system are so good, even with my 
Australian accent, that it is a game changer. Finally voice dictation has 
come of age.

*Futures*
Now we need to locate the methods by which to issue commands to tiddlywiki 
such done to save and close a tiddler etc... or issue shortcuts to 
tiddlywiki from a voice command. I think this is a separate and distinct 
function to the transcription. I am thinking of "control s" or "OK 
tiddlywiki" to accept voice commands. I imagine google has developed 
something within the transcription to support this?

Thanks so much for being part of this game changer.
Tones




On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 07:15:00 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> @David Grifford, 
>
> You should be able to run a test, right in the browser, at the demo site 
> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/.
>
> From there, you can also drag-and-drop the plug-in, etc. 
>
> Enjoy! 
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Looking forward to the demo site!
>>
>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>>>
>>> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
>>> , you can click 
>>> the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
>>> tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!
>>>
>>> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
>>> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
>>> it is!
>>>
>>> The plugin can be found at 
>>> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where 
>>> documentation is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you 
>>> appreciate our work. 
>>>
>>> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
>>> Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
>>> project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy!!
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread Finn Lancaster
@David Grifford,

You should be able to run a test, right in the browser, at the demo site
https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/.

>From there, you can also drag-and-drop the plug-in, etc.

Enjoy!

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> Looking forward to the demo site!
>
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>>
>> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin
>> , you can click the
>> Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new tiddler
>> with the transcript will be created for you!
>>
>> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of
>> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what
>> it is!
>>
>> The plugin can be found at
>> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where documentation
>> is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you appreciate our work.
>>
>> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub.
>> Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our
>> project early on with their knowledge and ideas.
>>
>> Enjoy!!
>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread David Gifford
Looking forward to the demo site!

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>
> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
> , you can click the 
> Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new tiddler 
> with the transcript will be created for you!
>
> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
> it is!
>
> The plugin can be found at 
> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where documentation 
> is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you appreciate our work. 
>
> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
> Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
> project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>
> Enjoy!!
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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread Finn Lancaster
ludwa6: I believe it should work on iOS, although I have not
 done the necessary testing myself to say so. The required API which makes 
it not work for FireFox is present in Safari, so it should function 
normally!

Let me know how it goes!
On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 2:02:30 PM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:

> Ditto @arunn : works in Chrome for me too, tho not in TiddlyDesktop nor 
> Quine2 -my primary working tools for desktop and mobile, alas- and it would 
> indeed be good to have recording stop by button-push instead of timeout.
>
> In fact it is in mobile UseCase that i am most keen to use this, so if 
> there's any way to get it working on iOS, i will be all over it!
>
> Anyway: that's quite a neat trick you have pulled off here, Finn. Top 
> marks for out-of-the-box thinking!
>
> /walt
>
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 6:45:39 PM UTC+1 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Finn Lancaster and BurningTreeC,
>>
>> Great work. I tried the plug-in in Chrome browser. It works fine. One 
>> thing I noticed is that if I pause or stop talking for a few seconds, it 
>> automatically stops recording. It would be nice if the button can be used 
>> to "stop recording" also in addition to "start recording" function.
>>
>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 10:27:32 PM UTC+5:30 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>> Drag installation can now be done from 
>>> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/
>>>
>>> PMario schrieb am Montag, 9. August 2021 um 17:21:37 UTC+2:
>>>
 On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:09:53 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> @ludwa6,
>
> Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load 
> it yourself. 
>

 Beta with a 1.0.x version number? That's new. You should probably have 
 a closer look at semantic versioning: https://semver.org/
 For me it looks more like alpha. 
 -m



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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread ludwa6
Ditto @arunn : works in Chrome for me too, tho not in TiddlyDesktop nor 
Quine2 -my primary working tools for desktop and mobile, alas- and it would 
indeed be good to have recording stop by button-push instead of timeout.

In fact it is in mobile UseCase that i am most keen to use this, so if 
there's any way to get it working on iOS, i will be all over it!

Anyway: that's quite a neat trick you have pulled off here, Finn. Top marks 
for out-of-the-box thinking!

/walt

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 6:45:39 PM UTC+1 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Finn Lancaster and BurningTreeC,
>
> Great work. I tried the plug-in in Chrome browser. It works fine. One 
> thing I noticed is that if I pause or stop talking for a few seconds, it 
> automatically stops recording. It would be nice if the button can be used 
> to "stop recording" also in addition to "start recording" function.
>
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 10:27:32 PM UTC+5:30 BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>> Drag installation can now be done from 
>> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/
>>
>> PMario schrieb am Montag, 9. August 2021 um 17:21:37 UTC+2:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:09:53 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @ludwa6,

 Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load 
 it yourself. 

>>>
>>> Beta with a 1.0.x version number? That's new. You should probably have a 
>>> closer look at semantic versioning: https://semver.org/
>>> For me it looks more like alpha. 
>>> -m
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread arun babu
Hi Finn Lancaster and BurningTreeC,

Great work. I tried the plug-in in Chrome browser. It works fine. One thing 
I noticed is that if I pause or stop talking for a few seconds, it 
automatically stops recording. It would be nice if the button can be used 
to "stop recording" also in addition to "start recording" function.

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 10:27:32 PM UTC+5:30 BurningTreeC wrote:

> Drag installation can now be done from 
> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/
>
> PMario schrieb am Montag, 9. August 2021 um 17:21:37 UTC+2:
>
>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:09:53 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @ludwa6,
>>>
>>> Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load 
>>> it yourself. 
>>>
>>
>> Beta with a 1.0.x version number? That's new. You should probably have a 
>> closer look at semantic versioning: https://semver.org/
>> For me it looks more like alpha. 
>> -m
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread BurningTreeC
Drag installation can now be done from 
https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/

PMario schrieb am Montag, 9. August 2021 um 17:21:37 UTC+2:

> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:09:53 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @ludwa6,
>>
>> Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load it 
>> yourself. 
>>
>
> Beta with a 1.0.x version number? That's new. You should probably have a 
> closer look at semantic versioning: https://semver.org/
> For me it looks more like alpha. 
> -m
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread PMario
On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:09:53 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> @ludwa6,
>
> Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load it 
> yourself. 
>

Beta with a 1.0.x version number? That's new. You should probably have a 
closer look at semantic versioning: https://semver.org/
For me it looks more like alpha. 
-m

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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread BurningTreeC

It's probably worth mentioning that it doesn't work on Firefox because it's 
missing the API

best wishes, BTC
ludwa6 schrieb am Montag, 9. August 2021 um 16:17:38 UTC+2:

> Thanks for the quick help, @flanc... But that's a few more steps than i 
> have time for on this lunch break :-) 
> Will definitely give this a whirl come weekend, if not sooner. 
> Amazing accomplishment, Finn, presuming it actually works -congrats! 
>
> /walt
>
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 3:09:53 PM UTC+1 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @ludwa6,
>>
>> Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load it 
>> yourself. The page at 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/static/How%2520to%2520create%2520plugins%2520in%2520the%2520browser.html
>>  
>> seems to document how to do this well. 
>>
>> Another method to load the plugin from the github repo is to setup a 
>> Node.Js TW instance. Then, you can just follow BurningTreeC's instructions 
>> at 
>> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/issues/1#issuecomment-894827645,
>>  
>> then start the Node.Js server to get going.
>>
>> I will mention the drag-and-drop to BurningTreeC. I am extremely 
>> inexperienced with TW plugin-creation, which is why I just handled the 
>> vanilla JS side of things. I am sure it is something simple, and I'll tell 
>> you when I know.
>>
>> Thanks for the valuable feedback!
>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:56:32 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds awesome, @flanc... But how to install? 
>>> The github repo you've linked has a bunch of files; is there one we can 
>>> just drag into a TW instance, like most other plugins?  
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 2:25:34 PM UTC+1 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*

 Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
 , you can click 
 the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
 tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!

 The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
 BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
 it is!

 The plugin can be found at 
 https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where 
 documentation is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you 
 appreciate our work. 

 Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
 Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
 project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 

 Enjoy!!

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread ludwa6
Thanks for the quick help, @flanc... But that's a few more steps than i 
have time for on this lunch break :-) 
Will definitely give this a whirl come weekend, if not sooner. 
Amazing accomplishment, Finn, presuming it actually works -congrats! 

/walt

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 3:09:53 PM UTC+1 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> @ludwa6,
>
> Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load it 
> yourself. The page at 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/static/How%2520to%2520create%2520plugins%2520in%2520the%2520browser.html
>  
> seems to document how to do this well. 
>
> Another method to load the plugin from the github repo is to setup a 
> Node.Js TW instance. Then, you can just follow BurningTreeC's instructions 
> at 
> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/issues/1#issuecomment-894827645,
>  
> then start the Node.Js server to get going.
>
> I will mention the drag-and-drop to BurningTreeC. I am extremely 
> inexperienced with TW plugin-creation, which is why I just handled the 
> vanilla JS side of things. I am sure it is something simple, and I'll tell 
> you when I know.
>
> Thanks for the valuable feedback!
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:56:32 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Sounds awesome, @flanc... But how to install? 
>> The github repo you've linked has a bunch of files; is there one we can 
>> just drag into a TW instance, like most other plugins?  
>>
>> /walt
>>
>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 2:25:34 PM UTC+1 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>>>
>>> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
>>> , you can click 
>>> the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
>>> tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!
>>>
>>> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
>>> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
>>> it is!
>>>
>>> The plugin can be found at 
>>> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where 
>>> documentation is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you 
>>> appreciate our work. 
>>>
>>> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
>>> Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
>>> project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy!!
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread Finn Lancaster
@ludwa6,

Because the plugin is still (sort of) in its Beta stage, you must load it 
yourself. The page 
at 
https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/static/How%2520to%2520create%2520plugins%2520in%2520the%2520browser.html
 
seems to document how to do this well. 

Another method to load the plugin from the github repo is to setup a 
Node.Js TW instance. Then, you can just follow BurningTreeC's instructions 
at 
https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/issues/1#issuecomment-894827645,
 
then start the Node.Js server to get going.

I will mention the drag-and-drop to BurningTreeC. I am extremely 
inexperienced with TW plugin-creation, which is why I just handled the 
vanilla JS side of things. I am sure it is something simple, and I'll tell 
you when I know.

Thanks for the valuable feedback!
On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:56:32 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:

> Sounds awesome, @flanc... But how to install? 
> The github repo you've linked has a bunch of files; is there one we can 
> just drag into a TW instance, like most other plugins?  
>
> /walt
>
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 2:25:34 PM UTC+1 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>>
>> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
>> , you can click the 
>> Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new tiddler 
>> with the transcript will be created for you!
>>
>> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
>> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
>> it is!
>>
>> The plugin can be found at 
>> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where documentation 
>> is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you appreciate our work. 
>>
>> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
>> Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
>> project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>>
>> Enjoy!!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting... Speech-to-Text plugin for TW5!!!

2021-08-09 Thread ludwa6
Sounds awesome, @flanc... But how to install? 
The github repo you've linked has a bunch of files; is there one we can 
just drag into a TW instance, like most other plugins?  

/walt

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 2:25:34 PM UTC+1 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>
> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
> , you can click the 
> Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new tiddler 
> with the transcript will be created for you!
>
> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
> it is!
>
> The plugin can be found at 
> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where documentation 
> is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you appreciate our work. 
>
> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in GitHub. 
> Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also supported our 
> project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>
> Enjoy!!
>

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