[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

>
> forgot to say thank you!!
>
> thanks, you're welcome!

FYI: we've now started to add global keyboard shortcuts to tiddlywiki here 
 , which would make 
this solution with the accesskeys unnecessary because it just works better.
I hope it will be reviewable on the tiddlywiki prerelease page anytime soon
until then, the accesskey-solution is the best we have

all the best, BTC

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[kelsang sherab]

forgot to say thank you!!

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:36:42 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi, as I explained in my 5th post:
>
> after importing, save the wiki and reload it. Changing the access key 
> would also need to save and reload.
> the key defined in $:/config/accessKey/new-tiddler then is the key to use 
> with your browser's defined key for accessing access-keys. On chrome it's 
> "Alt" - on firefox-esr it's "Alt+Shift" ... plus the defined key
>
> if you're using a new firefox it may need a config change, I tried it and 
> had to change something to make access-keys work. Normally it should be 
> supported by all browsers
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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

Thank you Mario for clarification and the useful information!
It seems it is not a tough work for an advanced user to assign shortcuts 
for a plugin and like that.
/Mohammad


On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 11:55:13 AM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:43:01 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> One question, it seems support for accesskey will be dropped for HTML5 
>> standard, 
>
>
> That's not true. TiddlyWiki has keyboard handling functions. But 
> implementing key-handling libraries is only 20% of the work, that has to be 
> done. ... JavaScript libraries are only useful for "core" or plugin 
> developers.
>
> In TiddlyWiki we need the possibility to provide this functionality for 
> "advanced users" in wikitext, using widgets.
>
>  - We have the keyboard-widget , 
> which allows advanced users to deal with shortcuts. 
>  see: EditTemplate 
>  and several 
> others
> - The keyboard-widget maps shortcuts to tiddlywiki actions. using 
> action-widgets 
>  - and so on. ... 
>
> For most "pages" keyboard handling is simple, because they dispaly 
> "static" content, with a hand full of input elements. Those pages are 
> created by developers. The users are "locked in" to be "consumers" and can 
> fill forms, that sombody else statically defined  
>
> In TW we have a highly dynamic UI, that can be modified by "end-users", to 
> be able to be "content producers". There is no limit how many "forms" 
> (tiddlers in edit mode) are open at the same time. ... That's a big 
> difference!
>  
>
>> also different browsers react differently to accesskey,
>
>
> It's not only different browsers. .. It's also different OSes that have 
> sligtly different approaches and implementations. eg: Ctrl-key, Cmd-Key and 
> Alt-Key .. That's why TW "*$:/ControlPanel 
> : Kayboard Shortcuts"* tab 
> allows us to configure every OS separately if needed. 
>
> There are some common shortcuts, everyone knows, that can't be used in 
> browser-apps, since the browser catches them. No matter what you do! eg: 
> Ctrl-S, Ctrl-N  
>  
>
>> so don't you think a JavaScript solution maybe be a better solution in 
>> long time?
>
>
> That's right. We already use one ... But as I wrote, that's only part of 
> the game. We need to find ways to make it availalbe for our 
> "wikitext-users", with consistency and acceptable complexity.
>
> The proposed pull-request 
>  may be only the 
> first step, to get more flexibility. 
>
> Everyone is welcome to add comments to the discussion. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

Hi Jeremy,
 Yes, you right! My reference was wrong and 
from https://www.w3.org/TR/html52/ I learned the support is available in 
HTML5!
Sorry for inconvenience!

Best
Mohammad

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:05:05 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The motivation for adding the accessKey attribute to the button and link 
> widgets is that it is a standard HTML5 feature, and we're just passing the 
> attribute through. (I can't find any references to the attribute being 
> dropped from the standard).
>
> The differences between browsers are sufficiently frustrating that I don't 
> propose to use the accessKey attribute in the core UI. If we want global 
> keyboard shortcuts we'll need to do it properly: a new startup module that 
> listens to key events on the document, reusing the existing keyboard 
> shortcuts pane in the control panel.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 15 May 2018, at 08:25, PMario  wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:43:01 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> One question, it seems support for accesskey will be dropped for HTML5 
>> standard, 
>
>
> That's not true. TiddlyWiki has keyboard handling functions. But 
> implementing key-handling libraries is only 20% of the work, that has to be 
> done. ... JavaScript libraries are only useful for "core" or plugin 
> developers.
>
> In TiddlyWiki we need the possibility to provide this functionality for 
> "advanced users" in wikitext, using widgets.
>
>  - We have the keyboard-widget , 
> which allows advanced users to deal with shortcuts. 
>  see: EditTemplate 
>  and several 
> others
> - The keyboard-widget maps shortcuts to tiddlywiki actions. using 
> action-widgets 
>  - and so on. ... 
>
> For most "pages" keyboard handling is simple, because they dispaly 
> "static" content, with a hand full of input elements. Those pages are 
> created by developers. The users are "locked in" to be "consumers" and can 
> fill forms, that sombody else statically defined  
>
> In TW we have a highly dynamic UI, that can be modified by "end-users", to 
> be able to be "content producers". There is no limit how many "forms" 
> (tiddlers in edit mode) are open at the same time. ... That's a big 
> difference!
>  
>
>> also different browsers react differently to accesskey,
>
>
> It's not only different browsers. .. It's also different OSes that have 
> sligtly different approaches and implementations. eg: Ctrl-key, Cmd-Key and 
> Alt-Key .. That's why TW "*$:/ControlPanel 
> : Kayboard Shortcuts"* tab 
> allows us to configure every OS separately if needed. 
>
> There are some common shortcuts, everyone knows, that can't be used in 
> browser-apps, since the browser catches them. No matter what you do! eg: 
> Ctrl-S, Ctrl-N  
>  
>
>> so don't you think a JavaScript solution maybe be a better solution in 
>> long time?
>
>
> That's right. We already use one ... But as I wrote, that's only part of 
> the game. We need to find ways to make it availalbe for our 
> "wikitext-users", with consistency and acceptable complexity.
>
> The proposed pull-request 
>  may be only the 
> first step, to get more flexibility. 
>
> Everyone is welcome to add comments to the discussion. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy & all

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The differences between browsers are sufficiently frustrating that I don't 
> propose to use the accessKey attribute in the core UI. If we want global 
> keyboard shortcuts we'll need to do it properly: a new startup module that 
> listens to key events on the document, reusing the existing keyboard 
> shortcuts pane in the control panel.
>

Right. 

My interest in this is also partly TiddlyDesktop related ("Theme: Make More 
Like A Browser but without making it one") . IMO its much better to have a 
universal way forward with key-combos. In addition it could maybe overcome 
some of the small limitations in TiddlyDesktop (not being a browser per se, 
just using a core Chrome engine, lacks both Chrome Browser keys and 
right-click options) in a manageable way. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Jeremy Ruston]

The motivation for adding the accessKey attribute to the button and link 
widgets is that it is a standard HTML5 feature, and we're just passing the 
attribute through. (I can't find any references to the attribute being dropped 
from the standard).

The differences between browsers are sufficiently frustrating that I don't 
propose to use the accessKey attribute in the core UI. If we want global 
keyboard shortcuts we'll need to do it properly: a new startup module that 
listens to key events on the document, reusing the existing keyboard shortcuts 
pane in the control panel.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 15 May 2018, at 08:25, PMario  wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:43:01 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>> One question, it seems support for accesskey will be dropped for HTML5 
>> standard,
> 
> That's not true. TiddlyWiki has keyboard handling functions. But implementing 
> key-handling libraries is only 20% of the work, that has to be done. ... 
> JavaScript libraries are only useful for "core" or plugin developers.
> 
> In TiddlyWiki we need the possibility to provide this functionality for 
> "advanced users" in wikitext, using widgets.
> 
>  - We have the keyboard-widget, which allows advanced users to deal with 
> shortcuts. 
>  see: EditTemplate and several others
> - The keyboard-widget maps shortcuts to tiddlywiki actions. using 
> action-widgets
>  - and so on. ... 
> 
> For most "pages" keyboard handling is simple, because they dispaly "static" 
> content, with a hand full of input elements. Those pages are created by 
> developers. The users are "locked in" to be "consumers" and can fill forms, 
> that sombody else statically defined  
> 
> In TW we have a highly dynamic UI, that can be modified by "end-users", to be 
> able to be "content producers". There is no limit how many "forms" (tiddlers 
> in edit mode) are open at the same time. ... That's a big difference!
>  
>> also different browsers react differently to accesskey,
> 
> It's not only different browsers. .. It's also different OSes that have 
> sligtly different approaches and implementations. eg: Ctrl-key, Cmd-Key and 
> Alt-Key .. That's why TW "$:/ControlPanel: Kayboard Shortcuts" tab allows us 
> to configure every OS separately if needed. 
> 
> There are some common shortcuts, everyone knows, that can't be used in 
> browser-apps, since the browser catches them. No matter what you do! eg: 
> Ctrl-S, Ctrl-N  
>  
>> so don't you think a JavaScript solution maybe be a better solution in long 
>> time?
> 
> That's right. We already use one ... But as I wrote, that's only part of the 
> game. We need to find ways to make it availalbe for our "wikitext-users", 
> with consistency and acceptable complexity.
> 
> The proposed pull-request may be only the first step, to get more 
> flexibility. 
> 
> Everyone is welcome to add comments to the discussion. 
> 
> have fun!
> mario
> 
> 
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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[PMario]

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:43:01 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> One question, it seems support for accesskey will be dropped for HTML5 
> standard, 


That's not true. TiddlyWiki has keyboard handling functions. But 
implementing key-handling libraries is only 20% of the work, that has to be 
done. ... JavaScript libraries are only useful for "core" or plugin 
developers.

In TiddlyWiki we need the possibility to provide this functionality for 
"advanced users" in wikitext, using widgets.

 - We have the keyboard-widget , 
which allows advanced users to deal with shortcuts. 
 see: EditTemplate 
 and several 
others
- The keyboard-widget maps shortcuts to tiddlywiki actions. using 
action-widgets 
 - and so on. ... 

For most "pages" keyboard handling is simple, because they dispaly "static" 
content, with a hand full of input elements. Those pages are created by 
developers. The users are "locked in" to be "consumers" and can fill forms, 
that sombody else statically defined  

In TW we have a highly dynamic UI, that can be modified by "end-users", to 
be able to be "content producers". There is no limit how many "forms" 
(tiddlers in edit mode) are open at the same time. ... That's a big 
difference!
 

> also different browsers react differently to accesskey,


It's not only different browsers. .. It's also different OSes that have 
sligtly different approaches and implementations. eg: Ctrl-key, Cmd-Key and 
Alt-Key .. That's why TW "*$:/ControlPanel 
: Kayboard Shortcuts"* tab 
allows us to configure every OS separately if needed. 

There are some common shortcuts, everyone knows, that can't be used in 
browser-apps, since the browser catches them. No matter what you do! eg: 
Ctrl-S, Ctrl-N  
 

> so don't you think a JavaScript solution maybe be a better solution in 
> long time?


That's right. We already use one ... But as I wrote, that's only part of 
the game. We need to find ways to make it availalbe for our 
"wikitext-users", with consistency and acceptable complexity.

The proposed pull-request 
 may be only the first 
step, to get more flexibility. 

Everyone is welcome to add comments to the discussion. 

have fun!
mario



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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

@PMario,
 Could this mechanism possible to be used in zoomin storyview?
In that case, we have only one tiddler visible at a time, the problem is 
only with tranclusion!

/Mohammad

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 11:26:08 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 7:58:23 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>  
>
>> There are some small JavaScript library for shortcut keys, is there any 
>> way to import such library in TiddlyWiki?
>>
>
> It's not trivial.
>
> The biggest problem is, that we use transclusions everywhere. ... eg: If 
> you dynamically create buttons, that have keys assigned, they can be 
> created several times. .. So it's hard to decide (for a program), which 
> button should be triggered ... 
>
> TiddlyWiki has an existing key-handling mechanism. We are currently 
> exploring the possibilities. see: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3273
>
> -m 
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

Thanks Pmario
I read the pull request and discussions there.
One question, it seems support for accesskey will be dropped for HTML5 
standard, also different browsers react differently to accesskey, so don't you 
think a JavaScript solution maybe be a better solution in long time?

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[PMario]

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 7:58:23 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
 

> There are some small JavaScript library for shortcut keys, is there any 
> way to import such library in TiddlyWiki?
>

It's not trivial.

The biggest problem is, that we use transclusions everywhere. ... eg: If 
you dynamically create buttons, that have keys assigned, they can be 
created several times. .. So it's hard to decide (for a program), which 
button should be triggered ... 

TiddlyWiki has an existing key-handling mechanism. We are currently 
exploring the possibilities. see: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3273

-m 

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

I may propose to have a plugin as shortcut keys
some library available to be used are:

https://github.com/jaywcjlove/hotkeys
https://github.com/ccampbell/mousetrap
https://dmauro.github.io/Keypress/




On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 10:28:23 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> @BurningThreeC
>
> I checked the accessKey in Wizrd-Wizrd Demo by Jed and it works, but the 
> drawback is it does not support the arrow keys or page+Up/Down.
>
> There are some small JavaScript library for shortcut keys, is there any 
> way to import such library in TiddlyWiki?
>
> /Best
>
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:24:44 AM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> do I need to give a special tag to this 
>>> "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal   tiddler?
>>>


>> No, you only need to edit $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal and change the 
>> <$button ...> to <$button ... 
>> accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> if it's not already there
>> also, to be able to access the new-journal button it must be visible in 
>> the sidebar on top below the site title and site subtitle (in the sidebar - 
>> tools - check the checkbox for new journal)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

@BurningThreeC

I checked the accessKey in Wizrd-Wizrd Demo by Jed and it works, but the 
drawback is it does not support the arrow keys or page+Up/Down.

There are some small JavaScript library for shortcut keys, is there any way 
to import such library in TiddlyWiki?

/Best


On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:24:44 AM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> do I need to give a special tag to this "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal   
>> tiddler?
>>
>>>
>>>
> No, you only need to edit $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal and change the 
> <$button ...> to <$button ... 
> accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> if it's not already there
> also, to be able to access the new-journal button it must be visible in 
> the sidebar on top below the site title and site subtitle (in the sidebar - 
> tools - check the checkbox for new journal)
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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

>
> do I need to give a special tag to this "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal   
> tiddler?
>
>>
>>
No, you only need to edit $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal and change the 
<$button ...> to <$button ... 
accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> if it's not already there
also, to be able to access the new-journal button it must be visible in the 
sidebar on top below the site title and site subtitle (in the sidebar - 
tools - check the checkbox for new journal)

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[kelsang sherab]

do I need to give a special tag to this "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal   
tiddler?


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 3:15:01 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> ... then create a tiddler "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal" and put your 
> desired accesskey in the text field, like j
>
> On most browsers the key can be accessed by holding "Alt" and pressing the 
> key
> On firefox it seems that that key can be configured - try "Alt" or 
> "Alt+Shift" or "Ctrl+Alt" plus the defined key
> If that doesn't work on firefox, it's either something that can be 
> configured - or a bug.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

Hi, as I explained in my 5th post:

after importing, save the wiki and reload it. Changing the access key would 
also need to save and reload.
the key defined in $:/config/accessKey/new-tiddler then is the key to use 
with your browser's defined key for accessing access-keys. On chrome it's 
"Alt" - on firefox-esr it's "Alt+Shift" ... plus the defined key

if you're using a new firefox it may need a config change, I tried it and 
had to change something to make access-keys work. Normally it should be 
supported by all browsers

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[kelsang sherab]

@BurningTreeC - 
Hi - once I imported your three files - I am not sure what to do next.

I cannot find any visible indication that the files did anything to the 
system.

The files are on the system with the following names:


   1. $:/core/modules/widgets/button.js 
   <#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fwidgets%2Fbutton.js>
   2. $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler 
   <#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FButtons%2Fnew-tiddler>
   3. $:/config/accessKey/new-tiddler 
   <#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FaccessKey%2Fnew-tiddler>


But nothing else seems to be happneing

would you mind please clarifying

cheers

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 3:00:22 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> you can simply import the three files here at the bottom, then save your 
> wiki and reload it. Try it with an empty wiki first
>
>
> if you want to add keys to other buttons, you can open the button tiddler 
> (for example $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal) and add 
> "accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}" to the <$button ... 
> message="..." class="..." 
> accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> ... 
> change new-journal accordingly to the name of the button you're editing
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[kelsang sherab]

@Mohammad 
That's a great  little sight!!


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:30:34 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> @BTC
>  You can have a look at
>  http://showroom.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Best
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:59:44 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> @BTC
>>  I use TiddlyDesktop and it works for me!
>> I just tried Alt+n and it creates a new Tiddler
>>
>> One question
>>  I use Zoomin storyview with one tiddler at a time on screen. I have 
>> added two small buttons at the bottom of tiddler to let me navigate to
>> next/previous tiddler in the storyriver.
>> Is it possible to use your method to add Spacebar key for next or arrow 
>> keys or page Up/Down keys for Next/Previous
>> tiddler.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:45:25 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>> @Mohammad , you're welcome!
>>>
>>> let me know if it works for you
>>>
>>> BTC
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

Let me to try that.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:08:35 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> It can be used with every button
>
>
>- open the tiddler where the button is
>- look for the <$button ...>
>- make it <$button ... accesskey="u">
>- or make it <$button ... accesskey={{$:/config/accessKey/mybutton}}> 
>and create the tiddler $:/config/accessKey/mybutton and put "u" in the 
> text 
>field (or your key)
>- that's all, using Alt+yourkey triggers the button as if it was 
>clicked
>
> I tried space, it works if you add accesskey=" " or if you put a space in 
> your config tiddler (no " " in the config tiddler, just a space)
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

It can be used with every button


   - open the tiddler where the button is
   - look for the <$button ...>
   - make it <$button ... accesskey="u">
   - or make it <$button ... accesskey={{$:/config/accessKey/mybutton}}> 
   and create the tiddler $:/config/accessKey/mybutton and put "u" in the text 
   field (or your key)
   - that's all, using Alt+yourkey triggers the button as if it was clicked

I tried space, it works if you add accesskey=" " or if you put a space in 
your config tiddler (no " " in the config tiddler, just a space)

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

@BTC
 You can have a look at
 http://showroom.tiddlyspot.com/

Best

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:59:44 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> @BTC
>  I use TiddlyDesktop and it works for me!
> I just tried Alt+n and it creates a new Tiddler
>
> One question
>  I use Zoomin storyview with one tiddler at a time on screen. I have added 
> two small buttons at the bottom of tiddler to let me navigate to
> next/previous tiddler in the storyriver.
> Is it possible to use your method to add Spacebar key for next or arrow 
> keys or page Up/Down keys for Next/Previous
> tiddler.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:45:25 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> @Mohammad , you're welcome!
>>
>> let me know if it works for you
>>
>> BTC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

@BTC
 I use TiddlyDesktop and it works for me!
I just tried Alt+n and it creates a new Tiddler

One question
 I use Zoomin storyview with one tiddler at a time on screen. I have added 
two small buttons at the bottom of tiddler to let me navigate to
next/previous tiddler in the storyriver.
Is it possible to use your method to add Spacebar key for next or arrow 
keys or page Up/Down keys for Next/Previous
tiddler.


Cheers
Mohammad

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:45:25 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
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> @Mohammad , you're welcome!
>
> let me know if it works for you
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

@Mohammad , you're welcome!

let me know if it works for you

BTC

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Mohammad]

Many thanks!
 Shortcut keys are very important specially when you use TW for 
presentation.

Right now TW is heavily depend on mouse clicks.

I hope Jeremy respond to this pull request soon!

/Best

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:20:17 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> At the moment there are no keyboard shortcuts besides the ones you can 
> define using the keyboard widget, but they only work within a textarea or 
> an input field
>
> I made a pull request for keyboard shortcuts today using the "accesskey" 
> attribute (see here: 
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_accesskey.asp) on buttons. That 
> would let you define a keyboard key, that triggers the new-tiddler button 
> when you press that key in combination with the key that's defined in your 
> browser for accessing access-keys.
>
> I already have it working in a testing wiki and it works really fine. 
> Buttons must be visible to be able to access them or - like in the sidebar 
> by the "retain" attribute of the reveal widget - only hidden visually. That 
> means, if the sidebar is closed one can still access the page-control 
> buttons with an access-key.
>
> If you want to try this out, it's only a small tweak
>
>
> best wishes, BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

I've figured out that on firefox-esr it works out of the box, on the newest 
firefox it may need some tuning.

If it doesn't work, one can try to open "about:config" in a new tab, then 
"accept the risks", then search for "chromeaccess" - only one entry should 
remain. double-click that entry and set it to 18. Then Alt+Shift+key should 
work

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

... then create a tiddler "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal" and put your 
desired accesskey in the text field, like j

On most browsers the key can be accessed by holding "Alt" and pressing the 
key
On firefox it seems that that key can be configured - try "Alt" or 
"Alt+Shift" or "Ctrl+Alt" plus the defined key
If that doesn't work on firefox, it's either something that can be 
configured - or a bug.


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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

you can simply import the three files here at the bottom, then save your 
wiki and reload it. Try it with an empty wiki first


if you want to add keys to other buttons, you can open the button tiddler 
(for example $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal) and add 
"accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}" to the <$button ... 
message="..." class="..." 
accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> ... 
change new-journal accordingly to the name of the button you're editing

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$__config_accessKey_new-tiddler.json
Description: application/json


$__core_ui_Buttons_new-tiddler.json
Description: application/json


$__core_modules_widgets_button.js.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[kelsang sherab]

I would not mind trying this except I haven no techniacl knowledge of how 
to make it

thanks

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 1:50:17 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> At the moment there are no keyboard shortcuts besides the ones you can 
> define using the keyboard widget, but they only work within a textarea or 
> an input field
>
> I made a pull request for keyboard shortcuts today using the "accesskey" 
> attribute (see here: 
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_accesskey.asp) on buttons. That 
> would let you define a keyboard key, that triggers the new-tiddler button 
> when you press that key in combination with the key that's defined in your 
> browser for accessing access-keys.
>
> I already have it working in a testing wiki and it works really fine. 
> Buttons must be visible to be able to access them or - like in the sidebar 
> by the "retain" attribute of the reveal widget - only hidden visually. That 
> means, if the sidebar is closed one can still access the page-control 
> buttons with an access-key.
>
> If you want to try this out, it's only a small tweak
>
>
> best wishes, BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[BurningTreeC]

At the moment there are no keyboard shortcuts besides the ones you can 
define using the keyboard widget, but they only work within a textarea or 
an input field

I made a pull request for keyboard shortcuts today using the "accesskey" 
attribute (see here: 
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_accesskey.asp) on buttons. That 
would let you define a keyboard key, that triggers the new-tiddler button 
when you press that key in combination with the key that's defined in your 
browser for accessing access-keys.

I already have it working in a testing wiki and it works really fine. 
Buttons must be visible to be able to access them or - like in the sidebar 
by the "retain" attribute of the reveal widget - only hidden visually. That 
means, if the sidebar is closed one can still access the page-control 
buttons with an access-key.

If you want to try this out, it's only a small tweak


best wishes, BTC

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

[Sebastián Ortega]

If not, is there any way to set it up one?

On Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:19:29 UTC+2, kelsang sherab wrote:
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> is there a keyboard shortcut for new tiddler?
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