Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-30 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 08:11:53 -0400,
Brian Hinz wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote:
 
  On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:57:00 -0700,
  Alan Coopersmith wrote:
  
  https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac
  
   (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo
   to get away from the endless trolling).
 
 
 Uh, it's been years and people are still commenting.  github honestly
 doesn't allow those forums to be locked down?  I don't know if I can take
 that volume of email...  How do they prevent spam from bastards like the I
 agree. Here's the link ... troll from coming through?


FYI:

https://github.com/blog/1847-locking-conversations

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-30 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:21:13 +0200,
Pierre Ossman wrote:

 
  - Copy over at least the 1.3.1 release.
 

Meh. We have such a silly amount of files that this became very messy.
I just linked to the sourceforge page for now. Should probably look at
dumping release binaries at the same place we decide to dump nightly
builds.

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian Hinz
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote:

 I am more or less done with the migration, so it is time to consider a
 formal switch. What's left:

  - Moving over relevant bug entries

  - Copy over at least the 1.3.1 release.

  - Decide what to do about nightly builds


The source for the builds has been coming from the github repo since last
week.  I suggest leaving them where they are for now, since the URL makes
no reference to sourceforge.



  - Shut down the sourceforge page

  - Send out an annoucement

 Anyone got any experience of what's appropriate to with the old project
 page in a case like this? Putting some kind of notice and putting as
 much as possible in read-only state is the minimum effort I'd say. But
 should we do more? Actively break something to make sure people notice?
 Remove things?


I'm certain that I've seen README's on SF download pages that redirect
people to github, etc.  I'll see if I can locate an example.

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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-26 Thread Pierre Ossman
One little snag I just discovered. I can't find a suitable place to
dump nightly builds on github. They do not have any dumb web server
functionality. The closest thing is the Pages functionality. But
that's still a git repo, and I don't think we want to keep filling that
up with new builds.

Brian, how are nightly builds handled? Is the build server a machine
you host? Any ideas about alternative site for storing the result?
Cendio can probably host it if there is nothing good publicly
available.

(I haven't checked out github's jenkins integration yet. It might have
something that we can move to long term.)

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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-23 Thread Brian Hinz
No objection here.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Pierre Ossman oss...@cendio.se wrote:

 I'd like to keep the ball rolling here, so unless anyone objects I
 intend to start officially setting things up this week.

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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-23 Thread DRC
On 6/23/14 5:39 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote:
 I'd like to keep the ball rolling here, so unless anyone objects I
 intend to start officially setting things up this week.

One thing I wanted to ask-- you had mentioned that you were migrating 
only the recent commits.  Why not migrate the whole SVN repository?  I 
would think that this would be relatively straightforward.

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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-23 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:37:53 -0500
DRC dcomman...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 On 6/23/14 5:39 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote:
  I'd like to keep the ball rolling here, so unless anyone objects I
  intend to start officially setting things up this week.
 
 One thing I wanted to ask-- you had mentioned that you were migrating 
 only the recent commits.  Why not migrate the whole SVN repository?  I 
 would think that this would be relatively straightforward.
 

I'm migrating the history since all the way from the start. But there
are a whole bunch of side branches in our svn repo that has nothing to
do with our current code base. It's for other versions of TightVNC.
Keeping those around is just needless noise.

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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-03 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 06/ 2/14 11:43 PM, Pierre Ossman wrote:
 4. We, as tigervnc maintainers, can comment on these changes. Even on
 individual lines of individual commits.

The biggest downside I've seen with github is that anyone can comment
on commits and pull requests, so if a commit triggers the trolls, it
can become a total shitshow.   (Most recent example, django's change
of master/slave to primary/replica in their docs, but there's been
enough others too.)   Github says they're working on better moderation
tools, but just be warned, you're always just one particularly stupid
typo away from having your repo turn into:

https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac

(which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo
to get away from the endless trolling).

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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-03 Thread Pierre Ossman
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:57:00 -0700,
Alan Coopersmith wrote:

 On 06/ 2/14 11:43 PM, Pierre Ossman wrote:
  4. We, as tigervnc maintainers, can comment on these changes. Even on
  individual lines of individual commits.
 
 The biggest downside I've seen with github is that anyone can comment
 on commits and pull requests, so if a commit triggers the trolls, it
 can become a total shitshow.   (Most recent example, django's change
 of master/slave to primary/replica in their docs, but there's been
 enough others too.)   Github says they're working on better moderation
 tools, but just be warned, you're always just one particularly stupid
 typo away from having your repo turn into:
 
 https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac
 
 (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo
 to get away from the endless trolling).
 

I'm not sure you can ever fully protect yourself against persistent
idiots. But yeah, a way of locking discussion in individual places
would probably be helpful in the worst cases.


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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-06-03 Thread Brian Hinz
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote:

 On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:57:00 -0700,
 Alan Coopersmith wrote:
 
 https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac
 
  (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo
  to get away from the endless trolling).


Uh, it's been years and people are still commenting.  github honestly
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Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?

2014-05-21 Thread Brian Hinz
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Pierre Ossman oss...@cendio.se wrote:

 I think it's high time we join the cool kids over at Github. :)


I don't have any real objection to using github.  I haven't used git very
much but I'm sure I'll adjust.

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