Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Ackermann N8UR writes: >Brendan Minish said the following on 12/30/2006 06:04 PM: >> On the soekris board wiring the following instruction is given on the >> febo site >> http://www.febo.com/time-freq/ntp/soekris/index.html >> >> Run a wire from

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Bill Hawkins wrote: > Arrgh! Make that TWO 12.5 volt batteries. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bill Hawkins > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:15 AM > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > Subject: Re: [time

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
Arrgh! Make that TWO 12.5 volt batteries. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:15 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and s

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ah, well. I have also received two Lucent KS-24019 L106B, aka RFTG-m-XO boxes. The serial numbers indicate 95 and 96 construction. The assembly numbers, 55761ASSY103902-001 (55761 is the CAGE number for Efratom) have Rev E, S/N 522 and Rev H, S/N 2385. The Efratom crystal(?) oscillators are 023005

Re: [time-nuts] T&F Equipment

2006-12-30 Thread Erik Kroon
Hallo Robert, Voor de 5061 had ik 200 Euro in gedachten. Als spare parts unit. Tot nu toe weet ik dat de 2.5kV defect is. Gaarne in Amersfoort afhalen. Verzenden is erg duur denk ik. Er zijn imiddels ook andere die interesse hebben in de unit. Ik geef jou de eerste keus. Alsvast beste wensen voo

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread David I. Emery
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 02:24:32PM -0500, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yesterday, so of course it's in pieces on the bench > today. Photos (along with those of the -XO) are at > http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/Lucent_GPSDO/ My RFTG-m-XO arrived. Seems

Re: [time-nuts] Signav GPS timing receivers

2006-12-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Dr Bruce Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Signav GPS timing receivers Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:59:45 +1300 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce, > Has anyone used any of the following signav receivers for timing purposes. > They claim to actually correct the sawtooth

Re: [time-nuts] Signav GPS timing receivers

2006-12-30 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Has anyone used any of the following signav receivers for timing purposes. They claim to actually correct the sawtooth error in hardware. http://www.signav.com/index_files/PDF_Files/New_Brochures/SigNav%20TM3-01%20Brochure%20V1.2.pdf http://www.signav.com/index_files/PDF_Files/New_Brochures/SigNa

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brendan Minish writ : es: : >Ok I got quite a long way with this project but I've still run into some : >issues : > : >1/ NTPD does not seem to be aware of PPS or GPS devic

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Gabriel A. Reyes-Davila
Brendan Minish wrote: > Gabriel Reyes has posted a better place for this to be done, that's of > course if the /cfg stuff gets read back before the /dev filesystem is > setup.. > I should say: machdep.elan_gpio_config in sysctl.conf If using ntpd then the links in devfs.conf If using ntpns then

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Brendan Minish said the following on 12/30/2006 07:18 PM: > I have from the photo on your website established that the area around > r61/r62 loos the same on both boards and these 2 resistors are indeed > commoned at the side nearest the edge of the board. I'll give it a go > here and see what happ

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Brendan Minish
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 18:17 -0500, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > > R61/R62 is the access point for the high-resolution timer in the CPU > chip. Poul-Henning's extremely elegant hack has the PPS signal start > the timer and at the same time bring the GPIO pin low. Since the GPIO > is interrupt-dr

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Gabriel A. Reyes-Davila
Brendan Minish wrote: > basically I need to run > > sysctl machdep.elan_gpio_config=-P...--....- > to set up the GPIO > Try sysctl.conf > then I need to create a couple of symlinks in /dev > for pps0 and gps0 > Try devfs.conf Gabriel Reyes

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Brendan Minish
Hi John, thanks for the offer I have come a lot further along than I though I would when I first asked in frustration for an image and I'll learn more by sticking with it for a while longer. I am also slowly coming around to better understanding the free BSD way of doing things, nothing like jumpi

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Brendan Minish said the following on 12/30/2006 06:04 PM: > On the soekris board wiring the following instruction is given on the > febo site > http://www.febo.com/time-freq/ntp/soekris/index.html > > Run a wire from the junction of R61/R62 (near the backup > battery) to on

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Brendan Minish
On the soekris board wiring the following instruction is given on the febo site http://www.febo.com/time-freq/ntp/soekris/index.html Run a wire from the junction of R61/R62 (near the backup battery) to one of the GPIO pins (I used PIO0, which is on JP3, pin 3) and f

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Poul-Henning Kamp said the following on 12/30/2006 03:50 PM: >> 2/ the console comes up on the serial port which we indeed want for now >> since I have not yet successfully configured sshd and IP addresses to >> come up correctly on boot (working on this!) but how do I stop the >> console from usi

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Brendan Minish said the following on 12/30/2006 03:44 PM: > I don't have a whole lot more time to spend on this right now, my BSD > knowledge is limited and the BSD documentation that I can find relating > to these issues is sparse. > Does anyone have a flash image and nanoBSD configuration that t

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brendan Minish wri tes: >But basically you are saying that the bits I need to do this with ntpd >are already there, no need for any patching and all I need to do is >configure the service correctly? Frankly I can't remember what we compile into NTPD by default thes

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Brendan Minish
Hi Poul thanks for your help on this On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 20:50 +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brendan Minish writ > es: > >Ok I got quite a long way with this project but I've still run into some > >issues > > > >1/ NTPD does not seem to be aware of PPS or GP

Re: [time-nuts] Adapter Boards

2006-12-30 Thread Lester Veenstra M0YCM
It is: The 2nd style is wider than the oscillator and has a 10K pot along with two adjustable caps anduses a voltage regulator mounted on the rear standoff, and is usually what you see on eBay. Lester B Veenstra M0YCM K1YCM K1YCM/6Y5 Mail Address: Lester Veenstra PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468

Re: [time-nuts] T&F Equipment

2006-12-30 Thread Robert Deliën
Hallo Erik, Wat voor prijs had je voor je HP5061 in gedachten? Groeten, Robert. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Kroon Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 13:49 To: time-nuts@febo.com Cc: Fred Tak; Rob van den Akker Subject: [

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brendan Minish writ es: >Ok I got quite a long way with this project but I've still run into some >issues > >1/ NTPD does not seem to be aware of PPS or GPS devices. do I need to >patch it and recompile if so how? Can the nanobsd script handle >integrating the patch

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris NTP server

2006-12-30 Thread Brendan Minish
Ok I got quite a long way with this project but I've still run into some issues 1/ NTPD does not seem to be aware of PPS or GPS devices. do I need to patch it and recompile if so how? Can the nanobsd script handle integrating the patch for me 2/ the console comes up on the serial port which we

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Jim Miller
On Dec 30, 2006, at 2:24 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yesterday, so of course it's in pieces on the > bench > today. Photos (along with those of the -XO) are at > http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/Lucent_GPSDO/ I did some reverse engineering on my RFTG-m-RB last

[time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yesterday, so of course it's in pieces on the bench today. Photos (along with those of the -XO) are at http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/Lucent_GPSDO/ In looking at the two units, both use the same main and "mezzanine" board, but there are component differences. On the

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN time and date ?

2006-12-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I notice that the LORAN station at Middletown is now transmitting nine : pulses instead of eight. This is the new Loran Data Channel (LDC). : Has anyone done anything with the data encoded in the ninth pulse?

[time-nuts] LORAN time and date ?

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Janssen
I notice that the LORAN station at Middletown is now transmitting nine pulses instead of eight. Has anyone done anything with the data encoded in the ninth pulse? The ninth pulse seems to position modulated. I built my own, bare bones, receiver and I would like to decode the info. Bill K7NOM

Re: [time-nuts] Adapter Boards

2006-12-30 Thread Jason Rabel
Can you clarify your question a little? There are two different styles, one that is the width of the oscillator (approx) and has no adjustments, the only adjustment that can be made is on the oscillator itself. The 2nd style is wider than the oscillator and has a 10K pot along with two adjustable

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5345A

2006-12-30 Thread Didier Juges
Just like with wine, making good crystals involves a lot of knowledge and a little bit of magic... Happy new year! Didier KO4BB Bill Hawkins wrote: > Brooke, > > I foresee a discussion similar to those of wine connoisseurs. > > What is the maison and vintage of the crystal? Was it > found on t

[time-nuts] Should TICs be run on internal timebases?

2006-12-30 Thread Peter Vince
Following the recent discussion of the positive effects of the M12's sawtooth, I was wondering if there would be similar benefit from running a counter on its own internal, unlocked timebase, when making small time measurements? I'm pretty sure it would help to smooth out the +/1 error on real

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for TCXO data

2006-12-30 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hello again Peter, Thank you for the links. Just powered it up and it works fine and shows 10MHz. I will leave it running overnight. Happy new year. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Peter Vince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for TCXO data

2006-12-30 Thread Peter Vince
Hello Gerald, You're in luck! I bought a similar one from ebay this time last year, and the vendor sent me a MuRata catalogue. It is 992 KB, so I've put it on my website: http://www.barney-wol.net/private/MuRata_oscillators.pdf Your OC2545 is on page 21 (the 23rd page of the d

[time-nuts] Adapter Boards

2006-12-30 Thread Lester Veenstra M0YCM
Can anyone identify the adapter board HP 05328-20027 used with an 10544A osc. ? Lester B Veenstra M0YCM K1YCM K1YCM/6Y5 Mail Address: Lester Veenstra PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468 Telephones: Office 940-6456 Office +44-(0)1423-846-385 Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for TCXO data

2006-12-30 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi Rob, I came up with the same results, but no links to data. Most hits are selling surplus stock. I did spent 2 hours trolling through many sites hoping to pick up something. Thanks for looking. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Rob Kimberley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for TCXO data

2006-12-30 Thread Rob Kimberley
Gerald, I did a search on Google using OC2545DT-1000 (excluded Murata) and found a lot of results, although all seem to be companies selling product. There may be a link or a further contact if you dig deeper. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5345A

2006-12-30 Thread John Miles
I don't believe it's mentioned anywhere in the 5345A manual, but I'd guess it's in the 10811A manual. Of course, the counter may not take advantage of the entire available EFC control-voltage range. -- john, KE5FX > John, > > Thanks for the good news! I foresee a late evening with plenty of tim

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5345A

2006-12-30 Thread bg
John, Thanks for the good news! I foresee a late evening with plenty of time with the trimmers. Is the lock-range mentioned in the HP-manual? Happy new year to everyone! -- Björn On Sat, December 30, 2006 0:51, John Miles said: > There is probably nothing wrong with it. Two things to check