Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2202

2007-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rex writes: I often looked at who I was bidding against. There was lots of info to be gleaned if you looked. What items were the last few items they purchased or sold? Are they paying reasonable amounts. Do they sell much? Is there a pattern or all over the place?

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2202

2007-01-16 Thread Rex
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:02:58 +, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rex writes: I often looked at who I was bidding against. There was lots of info to be gleaned if you looked. What items were the last few items they purchased or sold? Are they paying

[time-nuts] GPS trouble anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi! With the launch of SVN58/PRN12 the GPS constellation raised to 31 sats, SVN58 was introduced into the constellation at 13 Dec. Have anyone seen any receiver malfunction since? I am aware of a solar storm on the 15 Dec, but given the data from IGS the ionspheric activity have been fairly

Re: [time-nuts] GPS trouble anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Magnus: Starting 10 Jan 21:18 local Pacific time my plot of GPS vs. FTS4060 has improved a lot. Why I don't know. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi!

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-16 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Jason, What divider output are you using? The typical input to the phase detector should be between 312.5KHz and 625KHz and an appropriate jumper has to be installed on the divider header on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] board to tie the selected divider output to the phase detector. Sounds like you

Re: [time-nuts] GPS trouble anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Brooke Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS trouble anyone? Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:27:26 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Magnus: Hi Brooke! Starting 10 Jan 21:18 local Pacific time my plot of GPS vs. FTS4060 has improved a lot. Why I don't know. Um. How

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-16 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi Poul, I think your point of view is correct. I manufacture Fibre based GE + TDM Telecommunications products sold to the European and Asia market with exceptional reliability to operate within the Power industry. They demand 99.999% availability end to end and devices with time

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Jeroen Bastemeijer
Dear Time-nuts, Just a quick experiment. I started with the cold 10811 OCXO (switched off for 24 hours). I connected it to a counter and noted the frequency every 30 seconds. (last two measurement each 5 minutes). You can see the curve in the attached PDF. The offset at t=0 was 1706 Hz

Re: [time-nuts] GPS trouble anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Jim King
Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi! With the launch of SVN58/PRN12 the GPS constellation raised to 31 sats, SVN58 was introduced into the constellation at 13 Dec. Have anyone seen any receiver malfunction since? I am aware of a solar storm on the 15 Dec, but given the data from IGS the ionspheric

[time-nuts] Assistance needed: Odetics 325 owners

2007-01-16 Thread Bruce Lane
I know at least one of the listmembers owns a functional Odetics 325, but I don't recall who it is. Would those who have functioning units, as well as the inclination to do some test-point probing, please get in touch with me? I would need you to do some simple tests involving

Re: [time-nuts] Assistance needed: Odetics 325 owners

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Bruce, I have 3 SatSync's, I'll contact you off list. If other list members want the noise let me know and I'll copy to the list. Robert G8RPI. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lane Sent: 16 January 2007 14:35 To:

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2202

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Rabel
Yeah, pretty soon eBay will probably anonymize the whole thing. You won't know who you are buying it from, just a rating... And thanks to the recent changes you don't know who is bidding... We are all doomed! Jason I think I liked the old system better. I often looked at who I was bidding

Re: [time-nuts] GPS trouble anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Rabel
What receiver are you having a failure in? My Oncore UT+ VP work fine, so do my Jupiter 8's Those are the oldest receivers I have online at the moment here. Oh, I recently had some Trimble ACE III receivers doing testing with those, and they worked fine too. Jason Um. How nice for you.

[time-nuts] Odetics CommSync Parts Required

2007-01-16 Thread Rob Kimberley
Looking for the following items for an Odetics CommSync:- . AC to DC power supply: Odetics stock number 0350148 (2 required) . Power Supply Adapter cable: Odetics stock number 0420098 (2 required) Have just acquired a CommSync, but need the external AC-DC power supplies and cables

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Didier Juges
That is interesting. I have not checked the 10811 for that particular behavior, but I have checked a number of cheap, non TC crystal oscillators, and the initial drift has always been much smaller, in the order of 100's of Hz, not 1,000's, scaled for 10 MHz. I refer to the crystal oscillators

[time-nuts] Administrivia: Attachments

2007-01-16 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I seem to be seeing an increasing number of postings that are being rejected because the attachments are too big. The list is set to accept non-threatening (ie, no .exe, etc. files) attachments up to 128kb in size. I really need to enforce that limit because now that we have about 400

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Attachments

2007-01-16 Thread Had
Hi John, I think that last one was my fault. It was not supposed to go to time-nuts sorry. Had, K7MLR At 10:19 AM 1/16/2007, you wrote: I seem to be seeing an increasing number of postings that are being rejected because the attachments are too big. A well regulated Militia, being

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Attachments

2007-01-16 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
No problem, Had. Actually, there have been two or three in the last couple of days, so you're not alone. John Had wrote: Hi John, I think that last one was my fault. It was not supposed to go to time-nuts sorry. Had, K7MLR At 10:19 AM 1/16/2007, you wrote: I seem to be

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Rick Karlquist
Didier Juges wrote: It may be due to the fact that the crystal in the HP 10811 is optimized for flat temperature sensitivity around the operating point of the oven, when the cheap crystals I have checked are optimized around ambient (if they are optimized at all). For many years, 10811

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2202

2007-01-16 Thread John Miles
The seller can see all the bidder information as usual; it's only other users who are denied the information. There is some good in it, to be sure: you can buy (expensive) gifts without tipping your hand, and you no longer have to feel guilty about bidding against your friends! The trouble is,

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Greg Burnett
As can be seen in the seller's pictures, those oscillators did not have HP's final model/serial number label. As such they would never have left the Santa Clara factory through normal marketing channels. Instead they were likely purchased at a HP (or Agilent) employee scrap auction or part of a

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Tim Shoppa
Greg Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As can be seen in the seller's pictures, those oscillators did not have HP's final model/serial number label. As such they would never have left the Santa Clara factory through normal marketing channels. Instead they were likely purchased at a HP (or

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Rabel
Here's one for you guys... What would the cause be when you power one up, and it seems to try to oscillate, but then powers down (current consumption drops way down)? Thermal fuse again or just toast? Jason I'll apolgize on behalf of HP for putting in that stupid thermal fuse. It cannot be

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread John Miles
Powers down after how long? The oven current should drop dramatically in a few minutes. Does it quit oscillating? Doesn't sound like the thermal fuse, if it stops oscillating altogether. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
The oscillator and oven run on separate power supplies. Your posting is ambiguous. I don't know whether you are talking about the oscillator or the oven. Rick -Original Message- From: Jason Rabel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Rabel
Yeah I just realized after reading my post it was kind of missing a few key details. It was actually an one of those 10811-60155's from the initial big batch on eBay that I sent back (never tested) because one of the standoffs was bent so it wouldn't mount properly. I didn't want to try

Re: [time-nuts] Assistance needed: Odetics 325 owners

2007-01-16 Thread Bruce Lane
That'll be great, Bob, thanks. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 16-Jan-07 at 15:33 Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi Bruce, I have 3 SatSync's, I'll contact you off list. If other list members want the noise let me know and I'll copy to the list. Robert G8RPI. -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Bad batch of HP10811's

2007-01-16 Thread John Miles
That can be bent back into position... just take a pair of pliers to it. Won't hurt a thing. Take the screws off and remove the cover first if you like. It won't explode on your workbench! -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-16 Thread David Forbes
At 9:06 PM -0500 1/15/07, Chuck Harris wrote: Michael Sokolov wrote: Hello again, Thanks to everyone who has replied to my query! I have a few additional questions though: 1. What about the tin whiskers? Will they be eliminated by using SnPb solder, or will they always remain a