Re: [time-nuts] Collecting raw timing data

2007-11-27 Thread Jeff Mock
Thanks so much, your description of collecting the raw timing data is really clear. I like the technique of doing timing interval measurements from a slower known reference on one channel to a DUT on a second channel. This definitely gets me started. jeff Didier Juges wrote: Jeff, I

Re: [time-nuts] Collecting raw timing data

2007-11-27 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Jeff Mock wrote: Thanks so much, your description of collecting the raw timing data is really clear. I like the technique of doing timing interval measurements from a slower known reference on one channel to a DUT on a second channel. This definitely gets me started. jeff An

Re: [time-nuts] 1Mhz to 1 PPS

2007-11-27 Thread Didier Juges
You will need a clock shaper to convert the sine to a digital signal, and a series of dividers. You can look at my page on clock shapers for ideas: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/ClockShaper.html If you look through the archives, I believe earlier this year there was a thread about the

Re: [time-nuts] 1Mhz to 1 PPS

2007-11-27 Thread Rix Seacord
Jeff If you do a web search for frequency divider or standard, there are several good home brew type projects that are relatively simple and straight forward. Below are some of the sites I have visited. The first 2 explain more on the tech end and the last is a public domain schematic of a

Re: [time-nuts] 1Mhz to 1 PPS

2007-11-27 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Jeff: Another way is using a PIC micro controller, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/PRC68COM.shtml#TVB http://www.leapsecond.com/tools/PPSDIV.ASM Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com http://www.prc68.com/I/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Cam jshank

Re: [time-nuts] 1Mhz to 1 PPS

2007-11-27 Thread Hal Murray
I would like to convert a 1 MHz sine wave to a 1 pps TTL. I'm assuming you aren't too concerned about jitter. There are two issues. The first is converting your sine wave into a valid logic level. The second is dividing by a million. If your sine wave has a reasonable amplitude, I'd just

Re: [time-nuts] 1Mhz to 1 PPS

2007-11-27 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Hal Murray wrote: I would like to convert a 1 MHz sine wave to a 1 pps TTL. I'm assuming you aren't too concerned about jitter. There are two issues. The first is converting your sine wave into a valid logic level. The second is dividing by a million. If your sine wave has a

[time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Gang! I just bought a Prologix GPIB - USB converter model, version 5.00, and I am having some problems. It works fine on some of my instruments, but it just locks up when I hook it to an HP3478A DVM. The DVM is known good, and works great with my HP85B (doesn't everything?). Basically, if I

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Didier Juges
Chuck, I have used my HP 3478A with my Prologix controller (and several other GPIB controllers), but I have not upgraded the firmware to 5.0 (I think I am still at 4.61 or something like that). I will try and let you know. The 3478 is a relatively recent instrument (as far as GPIB

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Chuck: It may be timing. The 85 and the 3478 are old and slow. Have you tried adding wait statements after you send any command to give the 3478 time to think about it? Also it may be good to send CRLFEOI after each command then do the wait. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Prologix
Hello Chuck, It appears that 3478A sends data continuously as soon as it is addressed to talk. Since the Prologix adapter is busy processing GPIB data it is unable to respond to USB commands. One solution is to turn read-after-write off (++auto 0) before connecting the adapter to 3478A, and

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Prologix wrote: Hello Chuck, It appears that 3478A sends data continuously as soon as it is addressed to talk. Since the Prologix adapter is busy processing GPIB data it is unable to respond to USB commands. One solution is to turn read-after-write off (++auto 0)

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Didier Juges
Chuck, Sending ++addr 09; ++read 10; with my Prologix to the HP 3478A returns a single reading just fine. Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:34 PM To: Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Didier Juges
Some instruments are pretty hard headed and can't be easily convinced to stop after just one piece of information. So Abdul implemented the ++read command. I know some people like that :-) Too bad ++read does not work with those... Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Jeff Mock
Prologix wrote: One solution is to turn read-after-write off (++auto 0) before connecting the adapter to 3478A, and then use ++read command to read one measurement at a time. Please see the manual (www.prologix.biz) for ++read command options. I nearly always turn off auto mode on the

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Brooke, I'm sending the commands as I type them in Kermit. Surely that is slow enough. I cannot send any commands to the 3478A. The simple act of asking the prologix to do anything other than ++ver, locks up the prologix so it ignores all USB traffic. The Prologix works fine with a 3438A,

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Didier Juges
Chuck, The commands I copied in my previous post were sent very fast. My program sends the strings automatically when I click on a button, so fast timing is perfectly acceptable by the Prologix/3478A combination. Let me know if you need me to give you any particular configuration information of

Re: [time-nuts] Collecting raw timing data

2007-11-27 Thread Jeff Mock
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Jeff Mock wrote: Thanks so much, your description of collecting the raw timing data is really clear. I like the technique of doing timing interval measurements from a slower known reference on one channel to a DUT on a second channel. This definitely gets me

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread John Miles
Did you try sending ++auto 0 before powering up the 3478A? This setting is persistent, so you should only have to do it once to keep the board from automatically addressing the 3478A to talk. Also try disconnecting any/all other RS-232 devices from your PC during initial testing, and/or try a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Prologix
Hello Jeff, Thanks for the compliments. Much appreciated. You may configure the Prologix adapter (using ++eot_enable and ++eot_char) to send (append, really) a user-specified character to USB ouput when it detects EOI. By checking for the character you can determine if EOI was asserted.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
Prologix wrote: Hello Chuck, It appears that 3478A sends data continuously as soon as it is addressed to talk. Since the Prologix adapter is busy processing GPIB data it is unable to respond to USB commands. I don't think the 3478A is sending anything at all. If it was, it should be

[time-nuts] fury lock light?

2007-11-27 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 11/27/2007 21:22:41 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Under what criteria does the Fury turn on its lock light? Hi CH, good question, let me CC the time nuts on the answer. We are at the PTTI, so sorry for the sluggish communication. The Fury actually