Re: [time-nuts] Brooke's Valpey picture

2008-05-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Randy: Sorry, I was trying to give you a link to the Valpey VF150 data sheet, but their web site does not allow that. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.html Products I make and sell http://www.prc68.com/Alpha.shtml All my web pages listed based on html name

[time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (or other old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I know this is a bit off-topic here, but has anyone here ever programmed an HP 59306A relay actuator http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?cc=USlc=engnid=-536900193.536882169 which consists of 6 SPDT relays programmable via GPIB? Over the years I have programmed a number of

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (orother old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Daun Yeagley wrote: Hi David Don't worry about all the level stuff. That's internal to the box (59306). The only thing you need to worry about is how to generate the proper commands on the bus for your particular H/W-S/W combination. But looking at the example program, one sends * ? to

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (orother old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Didier Juges
Remember these units don't have uC, so any signal that would normally depend on some timing must be generated externally, i.e. come from the bus. I suspect the box might need some signals that other equipment (uC equipped) may not absolutely require. However, this being a piece of HP equipment, I

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (orother old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Daun Yeagley
Hi David You'll need a scope to look at the lines. If you try reading with a voltmeter, you'll only get the average value of the data that is being transmitted. There are a couple of control line as part of the bus. The most important one for our purposes here is the ATN line. When this line

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (orother old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Didier Juges wrote: Remember these units don't have uC, so any signal that would normally depend on some timing must be generated externally, i.e. come from the bus. I suspect the box might need some signals that other equipment (uC equipped) may not absolutely require. However, this being a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (or other old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi David: The HP 59000 series boxes were some of the very first HP-IB instruments made. They are what might be called glue boxes used to build systems. As has been pointed out there is not a micro controller and in addition there is no IEEE-488 interface chip (this was before there was an

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (or other old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi David: The HP 59000 series boxes were some of the very first HP-IB instruments made. They are what might be called glue boxes used to build systems. As has been pointed out there is not a micro controller and in addition there is no IEEE-488 interface chip (this

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (or other old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Brooke Clarke wrote: But, since there's no micro controller you should not send any characters after the single command byte. No CRLF, no EOI. You may need to explicitly set the termination sequence so that these are avoided. Looking at the manual on the HP 59306A, it says of the EOI line

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (or other old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi David: Sorry about that. You're correct EOI and a number of the other control signals are not used. Do you have a complete schematic, mine has the left side missing and I can't read the names of the lines. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.html Products I make and

Re: [time-nuts] Valpey - VF154

2008-05-24 Thread David Forbes
At 12:42 PM -0700 5/24/08, Randy Leifer wrote: I applied 5v + ground to the proper pins. Pin 1 left open. Results vary from part to part, but within 10kHz of 1MHz.especially if voltage is dropped to 4.1v. 3.3v output is further off. I don't know if a load on the output makes a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Anyone programmed HP 59306A relay actuator (or other old device)?

2008-05-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi David: Sorry about that. You're correct EOI and a number of the other control signals are not used. Do you have a complete schematic, mine has the left side missing and I can't read the names of the lines. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke I found this on the Agilent

Re: [time-nuts] Valpey - VF154

2008-05-24 Thread Hal Murray
Those do sound like old-fashioned TTL oscillators. They will require 5V to run. Expect a frequency error range of about 50 PPM. Many newer cans run on 3.3V. And don't expect good frequency accuracy or phase noise They might make good thermometers. :) (You probably have to keep the