Re: [time-nuts] HP5328A repair experience

2009-09-11 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
I have an HP-5216A that I got at the local flea market. One tube is bad and one driver. I found the drivers (they're special HP chips), but now I see it has about 10mA leakage current to ground. I've removed everything on the primary side and it seems to be the transformer. There's a slight

Re: [time-nuts] hp5328A PSU stupidity...

2009-09-11 Thread Douglas Wire - PUPCo Studios
Hello and thank you all for chiming in on my topic; all excellent suggestions. I have been “out” since I submitted that, so I just now was able to sit down and read through the last days digests. This is probably the 10th HP5328A that I have had to fix the PSU on, so it shouldn’t be such uncharted

Re: [time-nuts] Project on precise timing over Ethernet

2009-09-11 Thread Javier Serrano
Yes, exchanging data over a link will always harm its timing accuracy/precision performance, irrespective of whether you steer clocks (our case) or you exchange values or both. In fact, as I said to Jeremy in another thread I tend to see clock steering (i.e. PLL) as a limit case of interchanging

Re: [time-nuts] Project on precise timing over Ethernet

2009-09-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
Javier Serrano wrote: Yes, exchanging data over a link will always harm its timing accuracy/precision performance, irrespective of whether you steer clocks (our case) or you exchange values or both. In fact, as I said to Jeremy in another thread I tend to see clock steering (i.e. PLL) as a limit

Re: [time-nuts] Project on precise timing over Ethernet

2009-09-11 Thread Javier Serrano
Jim, I found a good reference for LOFAR clock and sync: http://www.astron.nl/sites/astron.nl/files/cms/PDF/LOFAR_Rep_057_clock_sync.pdf After a quick read, I think they would have been a perfect candidate to use WR, pity it's a bit late. Their system uses quite a lot of cables to achieve (worse

Re: [time-nuts] Software for Agilent Infiniium 54845A

2009-09-11 Thread EWKehren
What are you looking for Win 98 CD? Bert Kehren In a message dated 9/10/2009 10:07:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pe t...@standingwave.org writes: I have a 54845A oscilloscope in which the internal hard disk appears to be crapping out. This is a Win98 based unit, which is no longer

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Rooke
Hi Douglas, I have no experience with this beast but to draw this sort of current it points to a possible bypass cap short. If there are any dipped tants in there, there is a high possibility that one or more of them have gone short. If you have a good 4-wire ohm meter and a kelvin probe, just

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5071A Electron Multiplier of Cesium Beam Tube

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Monett
John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: That's an interesting answer. Can you explain what you mean by faster digital noise analysis capabilities? The 3048A is relatively cumbersome to use, compared to a modern phase-noise test set with high dynamic range ADCs. Conceptually, a

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 2201 Frequency Counter

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Rooke
2009/9/11 Dan Rae dan...@verizon.net: Even the 1992 duff button problem was solved by some kind soul who was selling bags of 100 replacements on eBay recently for a very good price, enough for three 1992s. Blast! I missed out on that, any pointers to who was selling them? Cheers, Steve --

Re: [time-nuts] hp5328A PSU stupidity...

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Rooke
Well, it will look like everything is shorted to ground if some major power line on the PCB has a component that has gone really full sort. You will only find this out either by un-soldering it (eventually) or you use a high end ohmmeter that can measure really low ohms in 4-wire mode with a

Re: [time-nuts] hp5328A PSU stupidity...

2009-09-11 Thread J. Forster
What I do to trace shorts on power busses is to apply some current from a few volt power supply with a limiting series resistor, then probe along the bus w/ a DMM or analog millivoltmeter. The smaller the measured voltage, the closer you are getting to the short. It's like a 4 terminal

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5071A Electron Multiplier of Cesium Beam Tube

2009-09-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Mike Monett wrote: John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: That's an interesting answer. Can you explain what you mean by faster digital noise analysis capabilities? The 3048A is relatively cumbersome to use, compared to a modern phase-noise test set with high dynamic range

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 2201 Frequency Counter

2009-09-11 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Blast! I missed out on that, any pointers to who was selling them? Cheers, Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD A man with one clock knows what time it is; A man with two clocks is never quite sure. _ ebay doesn't make this easy with their 90 day purge $25 +2.07 shipping May 12,2009 Dolores

Re: [time-nuts] Project on precise timing over Ethernet

2009-09-11 Thread Hal Murray
Actually, you can see this as a Shannon information channel, analog or digital. What sort of bandwidth do I need to run a PLL over a long link? I assume it takes enough to cover all the sources of error: drift in the master drift in the local oscillator drift in the communication link

Re: [time-nuts] Project on precise timing over Ethernet

2009-09-11 Thread Javier Serrano
Not sure I understand all your questions. Concerning PLL bandwidth, assuming you want to minimize jitter you'd set the bandwidth so as to minimize the area below the phase noise vs. frequency plot. At high frequencies the phase noise is that of the VCO in the PLL, while at low frequencies the

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 2201 Frequency Counter

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Rooke
Thanks Stanley. I have searched for this seller id on eBay and can't seem to find it but I've sent an email direct to the address you gave. Cheers, Steve 2009/9/12 Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com: Blast! I missed out on that, any pointers to who was selling them? Cheers, Steve --

Re: [time-nuts] Project on precise timing over Ethernet

2009-09-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Hal Murray wrote: Actually, you can see this as a Shannon information channel, analog or digital. What sort of bandwidth do I need to run a PLL over a long link? I assume it takes enough to cover all the sources of error: drift in the master drift in the local oscillator drift

[time-nuts] TB question

2009-09-11 Thread Gordon Batey
Greetings to all timekeepers, I have been reading the list for some time now and have greatly benefited from the threads. I have been fortunate to get one of the latest TAPR Thunderbolts (thankyou tvb and TAPR). I also have built the TAPR distribution kit and it seems to be a great item also.

Re: [time-nuts] TB question

2009-09-11 Thread Brian Kirby
I have not tried setting parameters in Lady Heather, but the Trimble Thunderbolt Monitor program has a field for this. Its under SETUP then TIMING OUTPUTs. The first variable is PPS Offset. In my case its 128 ns, its entered as -1.280e-07. Brian KD4FM Gordon Batey wrote: Greetings to all

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5071A Electron Multiplier of Cesium Beam Tube

2009-09-11 Thread John Miles
That is a very interesting answer. No wonder Stein pushes ease of use so much for the 5120/5125. But they are $40k to $50k in Canada, so obviously it's time for a new approach. 1) Where would you find ADCs with enough speed and resolution to capture the noise signal from

[time-nuts] TB question

2009-09-11 Thread Mark Sims
In Lady Heather you set the cable delay with the /C[=#] command line option. If no number is given (in nanoseconds) it assumes 50 feet of 0.66 velocity factor coax. _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5071A Electron Multiplier of Cesium Beam Tube

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Monett
John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: [...] Thanks for your help, John. Mike ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare...

2009-09-11 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
And vacuum tube equipment using indirectly-heated cathodes: http://www.cpii.com/docs/related/23/Basic%20Tube%20Design.pdf Operating techniques that are proper for filamentary tubes are not necessarily correct for tubes with indirectly heated cathode emitters. In particular, the opera- tion of

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare...

2009-09-11 Thread J. Forster
With tube gear, one fairly good way to reform the caps is either pull the tubes (label where they came from) or disconnect the filament supply, and then apply B+. You do need to check the schematic to make sure you don't overvoltage caps that would see an increased voltage w/o plate current. Also,