Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Don Latham
A very well known little factoid, but we aren't doing chemistry here, we are cleaning electronics. Specifically a silly little rubber connector. And for that and optics, I often use ether, AKA engine starting fluid, and, for metals, Carburetor and Brake cleaner, but that eats paint, rubber,

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread WB6BNQ
Well, That 1% is plain H2O (water). BillWB6BNQ gary wrote: I do have some of the junk isopropyl handy. I use for cleaning auto parts and the camp stove. It says isopropyl alcohol anhydrous usp not less than 99%. No indication what the other 1% is.

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Chuck Harris
gary wrote: OK. as they say, your mileage may vary. I just buy the real thing. It's cheap enough and works great. The price is still $7 for 32 oz at Frys. 99% is about $2-3 for 32 oz at Safeway. Frys is a surplus house, that is very regional. There is no equivalent throughout most of the US.

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Javier Herrero
El 04/01/2011 16:23, Chuck Harris escribió: [You possibly weren't aware, but denaturing is done 100% for the tax man. The tax man is happy to let you have your ethanol free of the sin tax, as long as some poison is added that will kill or maim you, if you drink it.] It is really nice - if you

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread William H. Fite
I've been cleaning camera lenses, precision optics, and connectors for twenty years with a single bottle of Everclear, the old standby of frat house parties. I've no idea how much water it has accumulated over the years but it was 151 proof to begin with so it had plenty when I opened the bottle.

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Chuck Harris
Javier Herrero wrote: I usually buy it from Farnell, in 1-litre can and in aerosol form, made by Electrolube. Here is the data sheet http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/316731.pdf It claims 99.7% purity, 0.15% max water content (I suspect that the can quickly exceeds that content once opened...)

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Javier Herrero
El 04/01/2011 17:30, Chuck Harris escribió: In my experience, the can would be a slight problem. As long as the alcohol remains anhydrous, the tin plating in the can shouldn't be touched, but as soon as the water moves in, some tin will go into solution. That tin will be left behind when

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread David Martindale
Active Electronics is another source of 99.9% pure isopropanol, and they have walk-in stores in a bunch of major US and Canadian cities. I use it for most electronics cleaning, but it also cleans optics without leaving a residue (unless there's a lot of junk on the surface to dissolve and

[time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Joseph Gray
No details on how the extra Japanese satellite is making it possible to get this accuracy. http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/01/04/new-gps-system-boosts-accuracy-to-3cm/ Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message aanlktimgaakx-ojheupbmtsfrfh8qlrsvm5sdqxss...@mail.gmail.com, Jose ph Gray writes: No details on how the extra Japanese satellite is making it possible to get this accuracy. http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/01/04/new-gps-system-boosts-accuracy-to-3cm/ As far as I know, it is a

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 37403.1294167...@critter.freebsd.dk, Poul-Henning Kamp writes: In message aanlktimgaakx-ojheupbmtsfrfh8qlrsvm5sdqxss...@mail.gmail.com, Jose ph Gray writes: No details on how the extra Japanese satellite is making it possible to get this accuracy.

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Jim Lux
http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/augmentation-assistance/news/michibiki-begins-transmitting-positioning-signals-10675 Similar in concept to waas or tass, the satellite provides a nav signal and differential corrections. One of the goals is to make a nav system that performs well (sub meter)

Re: [time-nuts] Wide angle light into ST connector/multimode fiber?

2011-01-04 Thread lstoskopf
I want to get light from a wide angle (30 degrees or so) into a multimode fiber cable to feed a fast MF466 photodiode for short distance sensing. That fiber is really small to focus on. Anyone done this...looking at a reflection of a red laser diode flashing dot a couple of meters away

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Robert Darlington
Denatured alcohol is available at Home Depot in the States and most hardware stores. Also, what you say about the 50/50 mix of isopro and water is exactly why I tend to reach for the 70% stuff first. It dissolves the bulk of the gunk including the stuff not soluble in alcohol but that is soluble

Re: [time-nuts] Wide angle light into ST connector/multimode fiber?

2011-01-04 Thread J. Forster
Negative lens and microscope objwective. -John === I want to get light from a wide angle (30 degrees or so) into a multimode fiber cable to feed a fast MF466 photodiode for short distance sensing. That fiber is really small to focus on. Anyone done this...looking at a

Re: [time-nuts] Wide angle light into ST connector/multimode fiber?

2011-01-04 Thread Hal Murray
I want to get light from a wide angle (30 degrees or so) into a multimode fiber cable to feed a fast MF466 photodiode for short distance sensing. That fiber is really small to focus on. Anyone done this...looking at a reflection of a red laser diode flashing dot a couple of meters away

Re: [time-nuts] Form factor

2011-01-04 Thread Hal Murray
[From a couple of weeks ago...] Opto-isolater? Why not just use fiber cable between cards. I have only ever seen point-to-point versions, I needed 7 cards connected. You can make a multi-drop setup with 2n unidirectional optical links. The trick is to send all the links to a common node

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Joe: I think it's the L1C signal, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/DAGR.shtml#GPSs I remember reading that they want your cell phone to guide you to a shop's front door in a multistory building. There will be ceiling mounted pseudo satellites using the same L1C signal to make that work. Have

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: Similar in concept to waas or tass, the satellite provides a nav signal and differential corrections. One of the goals is to make a nav system that performs well (sub meter) in urban canyons, which conventional gps does not I thought the idea with waas was to

[time-nuts] WTB:IEEE-488 Option for Austron 2100F

2011-01-04 Thread asmagal
Hello! Wanted are: -IEEE-488 Interface Board (Austron P/N 10398250) -Cable (Austron P/N 12098095) Thanks in advance Antonio CT1TE ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Similar in concept to waas or tass, the satellite provides a nav signal and differential corrections. One of the goals is to make a nav system that performs well (sub meter) in urban

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread jimlux
On 1/4/11 12:53 PM, Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Similar in concept to waas or tass, the satellite provides a nav signal and differential corrections. One of the goals is to make a nav system that performs well (sub meter) in urban canyons, which conventional gps does not

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread jimlux
On 1/4/11 12:53 PM, Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Similar in concept to waas or tass, the satellite provides a nav signal and differential corrections. One of the goals is to make a nav system that performs well (sub meter) in urban canyons, which conventional gps does not

[time-nuts] Comparing 10 MHz Oscillators at 10 GHz

2011-01-04 Thread Brucekareen
Luciano Paramithiotti's January 1 post about his 10-to-100 MHz multiplier project reminded me of past musings about using two 10GHz, phase-locked oscillators to compare the 10MHz outputs of my T-bolt and LPRO so I could quickly adjust the latter by observing the mixed 10 GHz signals with a

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread J. L. Trantham
I have found 91% at CVS Pharmacy and 99% from the electronics suppliers. Where in a grocery store or drug store can I find 99%? Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Javier Herrero Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:51 AM

Re: [time-nuts] Comparing 10 MHz Oscillators at 10 GHz

2011-01-04 Thread wa1...@att.net
Bruce- I can speak to the Freq West PLOs. They, like the others, use a sampling phase detector. In theory you could use any subharmonic of the actual L-band VCO frequecy to get the loop to lock. I have used freqs as low as 5MHz. But there are limitations. You must couple the signal

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Joseph Gray
Ah, that explains it. Nothing like being able to market and sell something to more people for an incentive :-) Joe Gray W5JG On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi Joe: I think it's the L1C signal, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/DAGR.shtml#GPSs I remember

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Joseph Gray
I was just impressed with the claimed accuracy for a civilian product. Especially without having to do post processing. Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Comparing 10 MHz Oscillators at 10 GHz

2011-01-04 Thread Rick Karlquist
brucekar...@aol.com wrote: Luciano Paramithiotti's January 1 post about his 10-to-100 MHz multiplier project reminded me of past musings about using two 10GHz, phase-locked oscillators to compare the 10MHz outputs of my T-bolt and LPRO so I could quickly adjust the latter by observing the

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
I got my last few 99% pints at Meijer here in Michigan. Bob L. From: J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 6:54:43 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

[time-nuts] Basic HP 5334A question

2011-01-04 Thread Chris Albertson
An ebay seller, as typical says I don't know if this even powers up but the photo shows all dashes across the display. Is there any way an HP 5334A can get to an all dash display without passing the self test? Seems from my reading of the manual it will either be (1) dead (no lights on) or (2)

[time-nuts] Telechron D Master

2011-01-04 Thread Peter Lindberg
Hi, I am a newby here. I am looking for any information regarding the Telechron D Master clock and how it connects to the A Master for its reference. I have both a D and A Mater and I would like to get them working together. Thanks, Pete ___

Re: [time-nuts] Basic HP 5334A question

2011-01-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/05/2011 01:47 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: An ebay seller, as typical says I don't know if this even powers up but the photo shows all dashes across the display. Is there any way an HP 5334A can get to an all dash display without passing the self test? Seems from my reading of the manual

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread J. L. Trantham
Drug store? Not a name I recognize here in FL. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert LaJeunesse Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:24 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Folks, Well I had some 70% isopropyl alcohol swabs and so used them. No matter what I did there are still some segments not working. Checked the contacts on the pcb with a cro and all seemed to have some sort of signal on them. Tried rotating and flipping the zebra strip and always the same

Re: [time-nuts] New Japanese GPS accuracy

2011-01-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/04/2011 07:39 PM, Joseph Gray wrote: No details on how the extra Japanese satellite is making it possible to get this accuracy. http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/01/04/new-gps-system-boosts-accuracy-to-3cm/ This is the first bird for the QZSS system. The Quasi-Zenith orbit creates a

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2011-01-04 Thread Kiwi Geoff
Joseph Gray wrote: If I am using the NMEA data (as in the Garmin is the only time source), what firmware is recommended by all those using a GPS18x-LVC? I thought I would run some tests for you Joe, using Version 3.0 and 3.2 Although I myself have run version 3.0 for a number of months (when

[time-nuts] starloc II and hag-240 photos

2011-01-04 Thread gary
The orb in the sky made an appearance today, so I figured I'd photograph the guts of the Starloc II. The HAG-240 is an active antenna a local surplus shop was selling. Since it worked with the box, I went back and wiped them out. $15 each, plus $2 for the threaded pipe to mount it.

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2011-01-04 Thread Joseph Gray
Geoff, Thanks a lot for comparing firmwares. That hard information helps tremendously. Joe Gray W5JG On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Kiwi Geoff geof...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph Gray wrote: If I am using the NMEA data (as in the Garmin is the only time source), what firmware is recommended by

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector (really isopropanol sources)

2011-01-04 Thread David Martindale
From an ordinary drug store in Vancouver BC, my wife found Isopropyl Alcohol 99% USP, described as Topical antiseptic and anti-bacterial agent. The manufacturer is Pure Standard Products. She says it was just sitting on the shelf at this drug store. If you can't find it at yours, try asking the

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2011-01-04 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
I agree, very helpful, thanks Joseph! I recently got two 18x that I upgraded to 3.50. (I'm starting to work on integrating some M12+T modules to supplement/replace the 18x's). Has anyone had trouble with reverting firmware upgrades on Garmin products? Of course, feedback on going back from 3.50

Re: [time-nuts] LCD display connector

2011-01-04 Thread Chuck Harris
I get my 99% from Safeway. They keep it in the area with all of the other lotions, cold remedies, peroxide, witchhazel, and other grades of isopropyl alcohol. -Chuck Harris J. L. Trantham wrote: I have found 91% at CVS Pharmacy and 99% from the electronics suppliers. Where in a grocery store

Re: [time-nuts] Basic HP 5334A question

2011-01-04 Thread Robert Atkinson
The one possible problem is a blown front end. This will not fail the self test. Check the sellers completed listings and feedback to see what esle they have sold. If they are playing dumb on this one, but knowedgeable about other tech stuff you may have a problem. Personally I find a faulty