Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/22/2011 04:19 AM, paul swed wrote: Actually there is a paper by Arthur Molenkamp (Spelling wrong) thats quite detailed and he seems to have done the same thing I am. You do not need the heater to start the RB lamp. I have found 2 things this evening on the FRS-c. The oscillator is

[time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, TimeNutters- Silicon Labs [1]http://www.silabs.com/products/clocksoscillators/pages/default.aspx offers a large assortment of various types of oscillator chips: XO, VCXO, programmable XO, clock generators, clock distribution chips, Jitter Attenuators, Clock cleaners,

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread J. L. Trantham
Surfboards? From Alltronics? Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Michael Baker Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:04 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators... Hello,

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread Bob Bownes
depending on the complexity, I use one of 3 approaches: 1) Premade adapter (aka surfboard) which adapts the package to something with pins on 0.1 spacing. These can be bought various places or made with traditional methods at home. 2) Quick home made version of above. Usually double sided pcb

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread jimlux
I guess this sad saga boils down to my question for the Time-Nutters List: How do you deal with breadboarding when it comes to parts that are ONLY available in surface-mount configuration (and are just at the size limit for hand soldering? you lay out little adapter boards

[time-nuts] Symmetricom CSAC Documents

2011-01-22 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: Links to documents: * Preliminary Introduction * Brochure * User's Guide * Patent http://www.prc68.com/I/FTS4060.shtml#CASC -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese GPS jammer

2011-01-22 Thread John Green
Some time back, I posted my experiments with a cheap Chinese made GPS jammer and Z3801. Since then, I have been able to check it on a spectrum analyzer. It sweeps over about 30 MHz centered on GPS L1 frequency. Power looks like about -3 dbM. If I turn it on within 30 feet of the antenna, the Z3801

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread Raj
With 2500 V ESD it is difficult to destroy this one IMHO. Any chance you inverted the chip connections? I had problem with a Si570 and that was due to bad solder connection into those recessed places on the chip! The only time Static discharge blew something was when a spark jumped from my

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/22/2011 6:04 AM, Michael Baker wrote: I have a need for a 110 MHz VCXO in a 1.8GHz to 7.5GHz tracking generator I am building for my Tek 494 spectrum analyzer. I bought a pair of Silicon Labs 110 MHz VCXO chips for less than $25 for the pair from Cramer Distributors.

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread paul swed
Is your work area grounded to the soldering iron tip. If not the tip can generate a discharge. Though as someone commented unlikely. The fact that 2 are bad does point to a miscount on the pins potentially. My trick on one offs as most of my projects are and at the old hand solder limit is a

Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/22/2011 07:03 PM, paul swed wrote: Interesting Took the oscillator board apart last night and found C11 has a cold solder joint. That explains it. Its the variable cap that tunes the heater. Have not re-soldered it yet as I am having trouble getting enough heat in the area even with a

Re: [time-nuts] Silicon Labs series of oscillators...

2011-01-22 Thread lists
I use a stereozoom microscope in the soldering process and for inspection. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-22 Thread WB6BNQ
Paul, The LED thing is interesting. Are you sure you were not just seeing a reflection of some sort ? BillWB6BNQ paul swed wrote: Other thing, measuring ignition time. On the first run just for the heck of it I flashed a led light into the ampule and it ignited instantly. So perhaps

Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Neon bulbs do the same thing. The ignition voltage is light sensitive. If you see a place they are being used as a voltage reference, they get painted black. Bob On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:02 PM, WB6BNQ wrote: Paul, The LED thing is interesting. Are you sure you were not just seeing a

Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-22 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group. Indeed I did try the light several times and it does seem to ignite the RB. But not always. So thats an area to look at. I seemed to remember neon bulbs could be triggered. I suppose thats was why I did it for the heck of it. However Magnus has confirmed that my little silver

Re: [time-nuts] cheap antenna

2011-01-22 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Jerry wrote: I would like to thank everyone on the list who helped me get through the problems with my 58503 and the suggestions that resulted in my [] getting a Trimble Tbolt which is now up and working. Someone a bit back was looking for a cheap antenna and

Re: [time-nuts] cheap antenna

2011-01-22 Thread gary
It is a bit low on gain. I'm going to check Excess Solutions next time I'm there to see if they have any more HAG-240 antennas. Really nice marine grade and high enough gain. I promised not to wipe them out if they have more since I got a decent stash. On 1/22/2011 7:31 PM, Kevin Rosenberg

Re: [time-nuts] RS XSRM Rubidium

2011-01-22 Thread John Miles
On 01/22/2011 11:31 PM, paul swed wrote: Well pretty interesting late afternoon. The oscillator works but C-11 definitely is troubled. Additionally a key element is an effective ground. Bridge the low side of the ampule to a better ground and the oscillator seems to reliably start.

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A and Z38xx software

2011-01-22 Thread Morris Odell
I've run my Z3815A with various programs including Z38xx. They all work well. I like the Z38xx the best because of its extensive reporting including ADEV etc. The software from Murray Greenman is pretty good too. Are you sure the unit itself is OK? AFAIK there's no official manual available. The