[time-nuts] Final report on LightSquared Interference to GPS

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Everyone in this conflict has an interest, so to quote John Griffin, You pays your money and takes your choice. The Laws of Physics have won out -Charles Trimble http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/final-report-fcc-working-group-lose-lightsquared-l-band-11848 -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
In fact, that was exactly what Accutron watch technicians were taught to do. They deliberately set the watches to run slow (~4 seconds per day, I think, but someone may correct me on that) because, when worn, slight bumps and jars would stimulate the tuning fork to vibrate slightly faster for a

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
BTW, how many of us have running Accutrons? I surely can't be the only one. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:56 AM, William H. Fite omni...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, that was exactly what Accutron watch technicians were taught to do. They deliberately set the watches to run slow (~4 seconds per

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
There are plenty of Accutrons out there, but I think most owners have long since relegated theirs to drawer duty. The short battery life (9 months), loud hum, lack of mercury cells, and poor performance on silver oxide cells did them in. It isn't that they cannot be adjusted to work with silver

[time-nuts] and now, for a collection of many clocks..

2011-07-08 Thread Jim Lux
Seemed like a time-nuts-y sort of thing: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-turan-notebook-clock-20110708,0,4924534.story This is how The Clock works. In every city it plays, the screenings are synchronized to local time. At least once in every minute, there is a shot of a

[time-nuts] FS: Frequency Divider Boards

2011-07-08 Thread David C. Partridge
I still have a number of these left. The cost is GBP75 including PP to anywhere in the world (GBP70 for UK customers). For more details please goto http://www.perdrix.co.uk and follow the links Please reply OFF LIST mailto:david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk Regards, David Partridge

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
Oh, Chuck! You have no soul. [?] People collect and use Accutrons for the same reason that people collect and use manual Omega Speedmaster Professionals. And the same reason that some of us keep old shipboard chronometers (mine was built by Thomas Bassnet a little over 250 years ago) and other

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread Javier Herrero
As a matter of curiosity... Am I the only time nut that does not wear a wrist watch? Or... perhaps I'm not a true time nut... :) Regards, Javier El 08/07/2011 16:46, William H. Fite escribió: Oh, Chuck! You have no soul. [?] People collect and use Accutrons for the same reason that people

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread John Green
I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind bothers me. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Javier Herrero
I see we are twin souls. Exactly the same :) Regards, Javier El 08/07/2011 17:19, John Green escribió: I haven't worn a wristwatch in maybe 30 years. I generally use my cellphone or whatever timepiece that's handy. Or, I just guess. I don't wear my wedding ring either. Jewelry of any kind

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Lancashire
I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got it repaired. But then I have 20+ clocks at home and a Nixie(R) clock on my desk at work. The only one I wear now on special events is a retirement gift to my grandfather when he retired in the the late 60's. How may factory

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Bill, You obviously don't know me! I've been an amateur watchmaker for a lot of years, and I have serviced just about anything that ticks. My collection of clocks and watches, though modest compared to most collectors, is certainly eclectic. My observations about Accutrons are accurate.

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
I worked at one time for an employer who give 35-year retirees a Rolex. That was about 20 years ago but I think they still do it. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.comwrote: I normally don't. Use to but one day it stopped working and never got it repaired.

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Russell Rezaian
While I do sometimes wear a wristwatch, I find I normally don't. I usually use a stand alone clock of some sort, or the time display on my phone. As for Time Nut relevance, it's still true that you can get much better accuracy and precision for a given cost in a clock that most people

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Actually, that still happens quite a lot. A nice looking, but not high end gold plated watch can be had very cheaply these days. I get catalogs addressed to my business that have engraved gold retirement watches anywhere from $30 to thousands. It is mostly just symbolic... in *my*

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread jmfranke
I prefer an inexpensive pocket watch, which I carry everyday, everywhere. As with John Harrison, I use it to carry time from one good clock to another. I depend on its short term stability rather than its long term accuracy. John WA4WDL --

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
I bow to your expertise, Chuck. I thought the tone of year earlier post was a bit dismissive, given the significant role that the Accutron played in early aerospace history. Not everyone agrees with you concerning the Ag2O cells. I have been collecting Accutrons since I bought my first one in

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch

2011-07-08 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Javier wrote: As a matter of curiosity... Am I the only time nut that does not wear a wrist watch? Nope. And it's not because I get the time from a cell phone or PDA -- I don't carry those, either. I very occasionally (once or twice a year) wear one of my pocket watches. Almost never a

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Lancashire
I thouth as well that it was just a cheapie, but when I got it I took it to get it cleaned and to replace the crystal. My watch/clock guy was quite surprised. It was not gold plated but 14ct gold, cheapies where 10ct or plated. I don't have the info with me but he told me it was not your usual

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread ed breya
I also hate wearing any kind of jewelry - watchbands and rings seem to cut off circulation, even when sized right. A few years ago I accidentally wrecked the nice Seiko that my wife gave me. Since then I have used cheap no-brand watches attached to my 30 year old Speidel Twistoflex band - the

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Kimberley
I'm sitting in the other camp - have many watches, but wear my favourite - a Seiko Chrono all the time - never take it off. Hot baths, showers, sea etc. Never let me down (yet). Accurate to I guess not what, but I just love it. Sorry Rob K -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread William H. Fite
Bravo, Rob. I thought I was the lone voice crying in the wilderness in support of watches. My beater is an Omega Seamaster that goes everywhere and does everything all the time. My others tend to sit in their rocker boxes and seldom get worn. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Rob Kimberley

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 84, Issue 25

2011-07-08 Thread Burt I. Weiner
Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is. For a wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout. I grew up with a wrist watch that had real hands and I learned to tell time and how much time I had

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
I too love wearing a wrist watch Since I am always working with machines, I tend to scar my watches up quite a bit... therefor I tend to wear cheap watches... my current favorite is a Russian automatic dive watch that I picked up on ebay for $60. I only wear automatic winding mechanical

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Pete, I wasn't implying that it was a cheapie... though most of the more expensive watches are at least 21J... A solid gold case will bring the price up pdq! I was just saying that a lot of companies are giving gold watches to any employee that hangs on long enough to retire. The cost of

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread Rex
On 7/8/2011 7:57 AM, Javier Herrero wrote: As a matter of curiosity... Am I the only time nut that does not wear a wrist watch? Or... perhaps I'm not a true time nut... :) Regards, Javier He he. Me too. Back when I used to wear a wrist watch, I found I would neurotically keep glancing at

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread d . seiter
I fall into this category too.  I used to wear an Avocet altimeter watch all the time, but once the last of the three I had could no longer be fixed, I just kind of gave up.  I don't usually carry a cellphone either.  I keep thinking I should get a watch for those occations when I might

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Lancashire
i know you didnt ... it was quite the surprise. But then Elder Packing was not your modern company. Everyone from the janitor up had a full pension. Mr. Elder sold out to a maga-corp. Rest of the story is text book. -pete On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 84, Issue 25

2011-07-08 Thread David I. Emery
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:11:34AM -0700, Burt I. Weiner wrote: Being in broadcast I need to know what time it is. I wear a wrist watch with real hands on it so I can tell what time it is. For a wrist watch, I personally don't care for a digital readout. I grew up with a wrist watch that

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 84, Issue 25

2011-07-08 Thread brent evers
I've actually found the separate mechanical and digital displays quite useful. I spent a lot of time on science vessels and would set one to science time (GMT) and the other to what ever timezone we happened to be adhering to for daily operations, which can vary quite a bit when you are working

Re: [time-nuts] Am I the only Time Nut who doesn't wear a watch?

2011-07-08 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 84, Issue 25

2011-07-08 Thread David I. Emery
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:12:42PM -0400, brent evers wrote: I've actually found the separate mechanical and digital displays quite useful. I spent a lot of time on science vessels and would set one to science time (GMT) and the other to what ever timezone we happened to be adhering to for

[time-nuts] Fwd: Re: fluke.l monitor for Thunderbolt . . . the saga continues

2011-07-08 Thread Steve
Here's where I am with the replacement microcontroller subboard for the fluke.l iCruze display. I used my bench power supply to slowly bring up the voltage on the replacement microcontroller subboard without it being installed on the display motherboard. The current limiting was set