[time-nuts] Lady Heather help, please

2011-09-13 Thread Dick Moore
Trying to run LH2 with a TBolt under WinXP. I need to change her com port to 3, which is where my serial-to-USB adapter is located -- and port 1 is in use. I see in the tip sheet that I can use the command line. Trouble is, I can't find it. Hitting most keys will display a menu of letters to

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather help, please

2011-09-13 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Dick, You could try doing a right click on the icon/link you use to call Lady Heather and select properties and then in the command line that shows add the /3 to the end. Hopefully, I explained that well enough and it will work ! BillWB6BNQ Dick Moore wrote: Trying to run LH2 with

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather help, please

2011-09-13 Thread John Miles
Trying to run LH2 with a TBolt under WinXP. I need to change her com port to 3, which is where my serial-to-USB adapter is located -- and port 1 is in use. I see in the tip sheet that I can use the command line. Trouble is, I can't find it. Hitting most keys will display a menu of letters to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Sometimes a very small movement in the antenna can help. The antenna sitting on a table inside the window probably does not do as well as the antenna sitting on top of a flower pot outside the window. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Old Frequency Electronics standard and synthesizer

2011-09-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Brooke -- Good idea. I was thinking of another way to get at least a sense of what's going on: look at the input current from power-on and see if the current goes down in a normal fashion as the ovens warm up. If the current stays high, that would (presumably) mean that the voltage isn't

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather help, please

2011-09-13 Thread Michael Perrett
First: Find the directory where LH resides (mine is D:\Program Files (x86)\Heather). Click the Windows start icon In the search windw type command Click on the command prompt. Change to the LH directory (I am using mine, you will have to find your own location). enter- D: (return)This

[time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! I am installing a timing GPS unit over a new location where I already have a NMEA GPS with PPS (let's call it unit A). The NMEA GPS is logging every 16 seconds its GPGGA string. I have a log with around 213400 samples. Each line is similar to this one 55817 48494.500 127.127.20.0

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CAEdntmtEcC=_N1uwvNb2GZqVX8r-AXO81hw+SXF6=p+kegb...@mail.gmail.com , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Miguel_Gon=E7alves?= writes: I have a log with around 213400 samples. Each line is similar to this one [...] I averaged the minutes of latitude and longitude, the MSL (278.9) and the Geoid Separation

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Albertson
2011/9/13 Miguel Gonçalves m...@miguelgoncalves.com: Hi all! I am installing a timing GPS unit over a new location where I already have a NMEA GPS with PPS (let's call it unit A). The NMEA GPS is logging every 16 seconds its GPGGA string. The Oncore UT+ can does it's own site survey

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread jmfranke
I believe that should read WGS 84 not WPS84. John WA4WDL -- From: Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:03 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread David VanHorn
Also, can you really trust Google Earth as an authoritative source? I'm not sure.An interesting test would be to go find a USGS benchmark or a section marker near you then enter it's location into Google. See if Google hits the marker. -- For what it's worth, my Thunderbolts here did a

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread bg
Also, can you really trust Google Earth as an authoritative source? I'm not sure.An interesting test would be to go find a USGS benchmark or a section marker near you then enter it's location into Google. See if Google hits the marker. -- For what it's worth, my Thunderbolts here

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Thanks! I believe then that is best to rely on SynTac position averaging or the auto-survey feature? Regards, Miguel On 13 September 2011 20:24, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message CAEdntmtEcC=_N1uwvNb2GZqVX8r-AXO81hw+SXF6= p+kegb...@mail.gmail.com ,

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Chris! The problem with auto-survey is that it doesn't report the averaged position in the log file. I haven't checked if the binary protocol enables access to this but if it does it's just a matter of patching the driver IMHO. If I use auto-survey should I continue using mode 1 in ntp.oncore?

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi David! Same here. I discussed this matter with a friend that did some GIS work a few years back and we both believe that the unit reporting the wrong position might be doing this because it's only seeing half of the sky (it is near a window facing SE) while the other one sees the entire sky.

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread gary
Google maps/earth is sometimes on the money, and sometimes not. Remember, these are orthorectified images pieced together. That can't be easy. [They are also on my fecal matter list since they trespassed on my land (undeveloped) to place a satellite cross mark for a shoot. Needless to say I

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:23 PM, jmfranke jmfra...@cox.net wrote: I believe that should read WGS 84 not WPS84. Yes. G and P key are not even close.Put after writing this I'm wondering how old the UT+ is. WGS84 must have been created in '84. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/13/11 3:10 PM, gary wrote: since they trespassed on my land (undeveloped) to place a satellite cross mark for a shoot. Needless to say I was pissed to see the big X on google earth, though now I have free pointers for NEWS. The while paper had mostly rotted away.] tangential to time nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Rex Moncur
Hi All In my case the Google Earth position cf if the GPS averaged position is within 3 metres of the physical position of my GPS RX but about 8 metres from the physical position of my GPS antenna. Can anyone tell me if the length of the cable has any affect on the GPS reported position or is

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread jmfranke
The position is solely defined by the location of the antenna. Once all of the satellite signals enter the antenna, the time differences are fixed, only the absolute time changes. The GPS receiver computes the position of the antenna using time differences. The coax cable length can affect the

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread lists
I think I mentioned this is a thread one before. If you are really interested in position accuracy, you look up a calibrated point from the USGS that you can safely and legally access, then take a reading. I say safely because many points are in the middle of the street. Legally means no

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 13/09/2011, at 23:10, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Google maps/earth is sometimes on the money, and sometimes not. Remember, these are orthorectified images pieced together. That can't be easy. [They are also on my fecal matter list since they trespassed on my land (undeveloped)

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather help

2011-09-13 Thread Dick Moore
Thanks, y'all -- that addition to the directory path did it. LH works good! Along the way, I discovered that on my machine, F11 toggles the screen size between full screen, which I can actually read on my big display, and some squashed version that's unusable. Best, Dick Moore

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Albertson
2011/9/13 Miguel Gonçalves m...@miguelgoncalves.com: I guess the other question is what do you get with Lady Heather? That is, how does it average your position? I will try it over this weekend. I have to get a Windows PC. Only Macs and FreeBSD boxes here. I thought Lady Heather. If so

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Your milage can vary significantly with use of antenna and receiver. Dualfreq chokering and carrierphase shifts the degree significantly. Cheers, Magnus Miguel Gonçalves m...@miguelgoncalves.com skrev: On 13/09/2011, at 23:10, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Google maps/earth is

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather help

2011-09-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
Congrats Dick, I ran into the same problem the first time I wanted to use LH. I could not find a way to change the COM port when first using it. However, once I switched the TBolt to COM 1, let LH run and connect on COM 1, it was easy to change it to another COM port using the various

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Upon further investigation I learned that Lady Heather is only for Trimble units... I could borrow a Windows laptop from my company for a couple of days. That's how I surveyed my window (current location of the GPS antenna) using SynTac (formerly WinOnCore). Cheers, Miguel On 14 September 2011

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread lists
Much of the serial interface protocol used by these disciplined oscillators is standard. I plugged my Symetricom into Lady Heather and most features worked. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Sims
Lady Heather's precision (nominal 48 hour) survey collects data over multiple 1 hour periods. With 48 hours of data, multipath and transient disturbances are minimized. It applies weighted median filters to the data and does other statistical analysis to arrive at a final location. With a

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/13/11 4:24 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: I think I mentioned this is a thread one before. If you are really interested in position accuracy, you look up a calibrated point from the USGS that you can safely and legally access, then take a reading. I say safely because many points are in