[time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Fellow time-nuts, my humble HP10811 + Shera controller combo signaled loss of lock since about a week after 5 years of non-stop operation. Frequency measurement showed it to be ca. 90 Hz low and the added oscillator enclosure (8mm aluminum case) barely exceeded room temperature. Measurement

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread paul swed
excellent repair and pictures On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Achim Vollhardt avoll...@physik.uzh.chwrote: Fellow time-nuts, my humble HP10811 + Shera controller combo signaled loss of lock since about a week after 5 years of non-stop operation. Frequency measurement showed it to be ca. 90

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread J. L. Trantham
Achim, Thanks for the great pictures. I have added them to my collection. Several years ago, I had a similar issue with a 10811 (though I can't remember the variant, looked like yours though) that, indeed was F1, the thermal fuse. It is designed to open at something like 105 degrees C, IIRC,

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Cotton
I had a 10811 with an open thermal fuse. I think that I just replaced it with a 105 degrees C thermal fuse from Radio Shack since the price after shipping was about the same. Jim Cotton n8qoh ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread J. L. Trantham
I also ordered some 'replacement' fuses from Allied or Mouser or the like (I can't recall) that were close to the specified temp but not exact. Much cheaper, IIRC, about $4 each vs. $1. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Cotton
$1.79 + tax and I have the fuse today, looks like their closest match stocked in stores is 128 degrees C Jim Cotton n8qoh On 10/21/11 9:54 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: I also ordered some 'replacement' fuses from Allied or Mouser or the like (I can't recall) that were close to the specified

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Rae
On 10/21/2011 2:47 AM, Achim Vollhardt wrote: I had a 24V, 1.5A polyfuse at hand which was soldered in parallel to the existing fuse. 1.5A seems a bit large, Achim, you have replaced a thermal fuse with a current fuse. You could have just used a piece of plain wire. Indeed in past

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread Sylvain RICHARD
Achim Vollhardt wrote:: Fellow time-nuts, my humble HP10811 + Shera controller combo signaled loss of lock since about a week after 5 years of non-stop operation. Frequency measurement showed it to be ca. 90 Hz low and the added oscillator enclosure (8mm aluminum case) barely exceeded room

[time-nuts] How long to monitor GPS? (was: Re: Rapco 1804M - serial problems?)

2011-10-21 Thread David J Taylor
I've now written a small plotting program to show the PDOP, satellite signal strength, inactive/coarse/fine lock mode etc. This ideally needs to run for several days with the box connected to each puck in turn, but preliminary results show that the unit achieved fine lock several times with

Re: [time-nuts] How long to monitor GPS? (was: Re: Rapco 1804M - serial problems?)

2011-10-21 Thread Chris Albertson
24 hours should in theory be enough but 2 is not a statistically valid sample size. you need more samples before you can say anything about the probability of locking. How many depends on the size of the error bars you can live with. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:54 AM, David J Taylor

[time-nuts] Shera Controller GPSDO Using HP E1938 OCXO

2011-10-21 Thread J. L. Trantham
Has anyone done it? If so, how does it compare with the 10811 or other OCXO's in this configuration? Also, has anyone compared a Shera Controller controlled OCXO to a TBolt or other commercial unit? If so, what did you find. Thanks in advance. Joe

[time-nuts] HP10811-60111 oven failure + repair

2011-10-21 Thread ed breya
If this polyfuse being discussed is what I know as a positive tempco thermistor (PTC) current limiter, it could be either detrimental or ideal for the application - it all depends on the resistance vs. temperature characteristic. PTCs for protection are commonly used as resettable fuses, but

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-21 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Attila, please share the document with us. Thanks, Said In a message dated 10/20/2011 22:28:19 Pacific Daylight Time, att...@kinali.ch writes: That's also my impression. It was only after i had a longer discussion with one of the user support guys about the exact specs of the 6T

Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO

2011-10-21 Thread Art Sepin
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of saidj...@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:48 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com; t...@leapsecond.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Russian GPSDO Hi Attila, please share the document with

Re: [time-nuts] Epoch rollover ?

2011-10-21 Thread k4...@aol.com
Bruce, the most common cause of a GPS receiver getting the date incorrect is due to cross-correlation. And cross-correlation is usually the result of too much gain in the GPS antenna's LNA. And depending on the make of the receiver, some will clear the date information with a power cycling

Re: [time-nuts] Epoch rollover ?

2011-10-21 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 21 Oct, 2011, at 11:53 , k4...@aol.com wrote: Bruce, the most common cause of a GPS receiver getting the date incorrect is due to cross-correlation. And cross-correlation is usually the result of too much gain in the GPS antenna's LNA. And depending on the make of the receiver, some

Re: [time-nuts] Sneaky Errors

2011-10-21 Thread shalimr9
It would be easy to modify my GPSMonitor project to drive a pin with an alarm signal if the GPS has lost lock. What you do with that signal is up to you. See the project page at http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Didier KO4BB Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Interpreting the ADEV plot in TimeLab

2011-10-21 Thread John Miles
Hello, I use TimeLab and the HP5370B and a Prologix GPIB interface. After making several 10 Hr runs with the same oscillator I noticed something When laying the successive runs on top of each other there are little blips and bumps that line up perfectly on top of each other. For example