[time-nuts] Fw: WG: Tele Quarz Group OCXO

2012-03-03 Thread Bernd Neubig
Hi Detlef, this item is not an OCXO but a TCXO. Accoding to my memory the stability is +-0.3 ppm over about 0°C to +50°C, it has 5 V supply and a CMOS/TTL output You can see the pin connections in the attachment (Option E). The trimmer is 20 kOhm. I wish you much fun with the part. Best

[time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Greetings: I think this is my first post to this reflector. I have been a subscriber for some time now. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge. Recently, a member of this list gave me an Austron 5000 Loran C receiver. With the recent news about Loran C, I am interested to try to use this

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CAAzRQfAhDyMexYqYPQXVbvuFwZ_tow2HCp9WYeS=dksrenw...@mail.gmail.com , Andy Lokken writes: Recently, a member of this list gave me an Austron 5000 Loran C receiver. With the recent news about Loran C, I am interested to try to use this device. But I have some questions: Is it possible

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread paul swed
That is indeed interesting because the only rcvr I knew that needed a pdp 8 was the older actual station monitoring units. I would strongly believe if you know what the 5000 wants these days its very reasonable to emulate the control system. That said in the US the only GRI I could monitor was the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In case any of you have want to play with Loran-C, here is a modern DIY computer-based DIY receiver for time-purposes: http://phk.freebsd.dk/AducLoran/ Mouser has the aduc7026 board for EUR62/USD76. In addition to that you need a 42MHz clock (I use the TAPR PLL board) and a random

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/03/2012 05:14 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In messageCAAzRQfAhDyMexYqYPQXVbvuFwZ_tow2HCp9WYeS=dksrenw...@mail.gmail.com , Andy Lokken writes: Recently, a member of this list gave me an Austron 5000 Loran C receiver. With the recent news about Loran C, I am interested to try to use this

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Hi, I used to work for Austron, but I don't remember a 5000. All their receivers were 2xxx series (2000C, 22100F etc). Can you send me a photo? Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lokken Sent: 03 March

Re: [time-nuts] Tele Quarz Group OCXO

2012-03-03 Thread Detlef Twesten
Hi Bernd, thank you a lot, now we know how to handle the oscillator. Kind regards, Detlef, DG7XD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Page 18 here : http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA337399 Gives a pretty good idea of what a 5000 is. Simple answer- it's a front end and all the work is done in the PDP-8. I think PHK's gizmo would be the better bet to get something running easily. I might even go dust off a 2100F

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/03/2012 06:47 PM, Rob Kimberley wrote: Hi, I used to work for Austron, but I don't remember a 5000. All their receivers were 2xxx series (2000C, 22100F etc). Can you send me a photo? http://www.loran.org/ILAArchive/ILA%20Journal%20Final%20Scans/1977-Journal.pdf Top of page 63 (page 65

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Hi again: Thanks for all of the replies so far. I took a few photos of the unit for Mr. Kimberely. They are a front view, a rear view and one of the label on the side. Not the greatest shots, but you can view them here:

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread J. Forster
Does anybody have any info on the 2100C receiver. I have one that somebody gave away, mistaking the listing for a 2100F. Thanks, -John = Hi Page 18 here : http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA337399 Gives a pretty good idea of what a 5000 is. Simple answer- it's a

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 2033.12.6.201.127.1330803962.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. Forster writes: Does anybody have any info on the 2100C receiver. I have one that somebody gave away, mistaking the listing for a 2100F. Speaking of 2100's: If anybody already have, or wouldn't mind reading out the EPROMS

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Stanley
Will do. Give me a few days. Stanley - Original Message - From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk To: j...@quikus.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Hi Andy, Thanks for the link. Wow, I've never seen one of those before. Looks like 60's design with those nixie tubes. Hope you manage to get it going. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lokken Sent: 03 March

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Stanley
Will do. Give me a few days. Stanley Ok wasn't as hard to-do as I imagined, CPU boards come out the front without removing the receivers from the bottom of the stack. They are 2732A a set of three f0-f2, I have a Rev G and Rev 107 I don't know why they are different name scheme both

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message D1D2D82D39DD43F3A1D7AC5934BD6326@StanleyPC, Stanley writes: Ok wasn't as hard to-do as I imagined, CPU boards come out the front without removing the receivers from the bottom of the stack. They are 2732A a set of three f0-f2, I have a Rev G and Rev 107 I don't know why they are

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Geez, I have read and I don't think it is possible to replicate the CALOC PDP-8/E software nor it is useful to use the Austron 5000 Loran receiver, my understanding is that it was used to control and steer the system. It seems they were in use until the year 2000! Maybe that using MATLAB it is

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/3/12 4:13 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Geez, I have read and I don't think it is possible to replicate the CALOC PDP-8/E software nor it is useful to use the Austron 5000 Loran receiver, my understanding is that it was used to control and steer the system. It seems they were in use until the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ahhh... The days of toggling the boot loader in with the front panel switches. So much fin. Bob On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/3/12 4:13 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Geez, I have read and I don't think it is possible to replicate the CALOC PDP-8/E

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Don Lewis
I still have a PDP/8 with 4k core memory out in the garage. (a jillion RTL cards in it). It was free to e then, broken, ...I had to find t\all the bad transistors During college, ..I would sit in the floor with that thing and toggle in small programs in machine language to count up and

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Time to get out the paper tape for 4K Focal and do some code... Bob On Mar 3, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Don Lewis dlewis6...@austin.rr.com wrote: I still have a PDP/8 with 4k core memory out in the garage. (a jillion RTL cards in it). It was free to e then, broken, ...I had to find t\all the

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread DaveH
Just for grins I Googled DECUS and it is much changed but still around: http://www.decus.org/ Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:56 PM To: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Thanks to all who replied. I think I'm in over my head with this one. There are far easier ways for me to try to receive Loran C, and I have no shortage of projects. So... Forgive me if this is not allowed on this reflector... Free to a good home (after shipping): One Austron 5000 Loran C

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
Andy, I'm truly sorry this didn't go anywhere, in spite of Forster's attempt to hijack the thread. You got more replies from heavy hitters than I ever did. (Excuse me, Magnus, if you do not consider yourself as a heavy hitter.) What you have is a device that has a CRT display and Nixie displays,

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about Austron 5000 Loran C receiver

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Lokken
Bill: No need to apologize. This has all been a positive experience for me. Had I not taken that receiver, I might not have learned everything I have learned about Loran C in the last several weeks. And the other equipment you gave me is in use and works great, by the way. This list is a great