Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is your screen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: I load screen shots into Corel Photo Paint 8 and resample the image to a good size for a web page somewhere between 600 and 800 pixels horizontally. Where did 600 or 800 come

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
Hal Murray wrote: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: I load screen shots into Corel Photo Paint 8 and resample the image to a good size for a web page somewhere between 600 and 800 pixels horizontally. === No, I didn't say that. Please be more careful

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Excellent idea, Chris. David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/06/2012 09:10 AM, David J Taylor wrote: The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. PDF is not ideal for web-publishing, you might provide a PDF too, but SVG is better if you want vectorized. Cheers, Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 501f80cc.2090...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: On 08/06/2012 09:10 AM, David J Taylor wrote: The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster plots don't scale. PDF is not ideal for web-publishing, you might provide a

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
I can highly recommend SVG, I use it in Pylt, examples: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_a.svg http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_b.svg Try pressing '+' and '-' in your browser... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 Poul-Henning, For

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 68331.1344242...@critter.freebsd.dk, Poul-Henning Kamp writes: In message 501f80cc.2090...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: On 08/06/2012 09:10 AM, David J Taylor wrote: The absolute best thing would be to make the graphs in some vector format. Maybe PDF files. Raster

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Dave Brown
'+' and '-' work OK in Opera under XP. DaveB, NZ - Original Message - From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like?

[time-nuts] HP Z3815A manual/info needed

2012-08-06 Thread Morris Odell
Hi all, A few of us down here in Oz have HP Z3815A GPS disciplined frequency standards running. One of my friends, who does not belong to this group, has had a fault develop in his unit which seems to be in the GPS receiver section. The serial port terminal program indicates that all is well but

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3815A manual/info needed

2012-08-06 Thread Azelio Boriani
The only info you can find (AFAIK) is here: www.leapsecond.com/museum/*z3815a*/ www.qsl.net/z/zl1bpu//PROJ/Myrefs.htm if you can find a service manual, please, let us know. scanning the archive for time-nuts gives: There is a full (unofficial) *manual* and software available on CD for the

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread David J Taylor
From: Poul-Henning Kamp [] I can highly recommend SVG, I use it in Pylt, examples: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_a.svg http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/hp85662_b.svg Try pressing '+' and '-' in your browser... That's probably CTRL and '+'/'-' actually...

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3815A manual/info needed

2012-08-06 Thread Azelio Boriani
Forgot to mention: if your Z3815A is like mine, then the GPS antenna cable is routed in a strange way. To bypass the large rear connector, the cable is soldered on the PCB where a short cable with connectors then brigs it to the Furuno GPS unit. There is a DC blocking capacitor so that the antenna

Re: [time-nuts] GLONASS receiver

2012-08-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Oddly enough CDMA transmitters also have a similar carrier frequency spec. It's rarely discussed, since the required level of accuracy for the timing is so much tighter. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] GLONASS receiver

2012-08-06 Thread Sylvain Munaut
Hi, GSM and derivates have +/- 50 ppb as frequency requirement, no time requirement. Note that GSM also have the constraint that all timing / frequencies in the system must be derived from the same reference. This way carrier freq / symbol rate / gsm time are all linked the same way. Cheers,

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is your screen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/5/12 10:35 PM, Hal Murray wrote: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: I load screen shots into Corel Photo Paint 8 and resample the image to a good size for a web page somewhere between 600 and 800 pixels horizontally. Where did 600 or 800 come from? 800 is historical, as is 640

[time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Jim Lux
what would be useful is to have some sort of plotting engine that is a canned webpage (or stored locally on the user/client computer) that can ingest fairly raw data from a URL.. something, conceptually, like this: BODY *invocation of plotting engine* data value 1 data value 2 data value 3

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: what would be useful is to have some sort of plotting engine that is a canned webpage (or stored locally on the user/client computer) that can ingest fairly raw data from a URL.. ... A low end microcontroller has no problem serving readonly pages from flash/ SD,

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3815A manual/info needed

2012-08-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If the 3815 is similar to the other HP boxes, there's a GPS receiver card in it. Some are derivatives of the Motorola UT series, some come from other manufacturers. Swapping the cards between two boxes might speed up the troubleshooting process. Bob -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I think there are now a couple of threads going on about this topic, which I started by a clumsy attempt to use the WIDTH and HEIGHT attributes in HTML. :-) For what it's worth, I usually scale web graphics to no larger than 750 pixels horizontal or 550 pixels vertical. That goes back to the

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi! I'm looking at the Resolution T from Trimble (http://www.trimble.com/timing/resolution-t.aspx). Does anyone here connected it successfully to a computer? Are the voltages compatible with RS232 or do I need some converter? Thanks! Regards, Miguel

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/6/12 9:16 AM, Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: what would be useful is to have some sort of plotting engine that is a canned webpage (or stored locally on the user/client computer) that can ingest fairly raw data from a URL.. ... A low end microcontroller has no problem

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Pablo Garaizar Sagarminaga
Hi there, On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:57:00 -0400 John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: A HREF=image.bigIMG SRC=image.small/A But that's extra work that I haven't gotten around to automating yet, so I thought I'd try using the HTML size options: IMG SRC=image.big WIDTH=50% HEIGHT=50% It's

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: what would be useful is to have some sort of plotting engine that is a canned webpage (or stored locally on the user/client computer) that can ingest fairly raw data from a URL.. something, conceptually, like this: BODY

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Tharp
On 08/06/2012 12:57 PM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves wrote: Hi! I'm looking at the Resolution T from Trimble (http://www.trimble.com/timing/resolution-t.aspx). Does anyone here connected it successfully to a computer? Are the voltages compatible with RS232 or do I need some converter? It is

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Pablo Garaizar Sagarminaga
Hi there, El Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:43:50 -0700 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com comentaba: What you are saying is that the data needs to be rendered to a graphic locally. I think the simplest way is to create vector based plots on the server (I've used GNU Plot inside a CGI script)

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Chris Howard
Yes, I have done so. You need a level converter. And the DSPMon software from the trimble web site is very informative. The Resolution T manual is also available on that web site. Chris On 8/6/2012 11:57 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves wrote: Hi! I'm looking at the Resolution T from Trimble

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Chris Howard
From the URL you had given, just find the Support tab and you will have the manual and the software. On 8/6/2012 2:00 PM, Chris Howard wrote: Yes, I have done so. You need a level converter. And the DSPMon software from the trimble web site is very informative. The Resolution T manual is

Re: [time-nuts] GLONASS receiver

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Sylvain, On 08/06/2012 03:51 PM, Sylvain Munaut wrote: Hi, GSM and derivates have +/- 50 ppb as frequency requirement, no time requirement. Note that GSM also have the constraint that all timing / frequencies in the system must be derived from the same reference. This way carrier freq /

Re: [time-nuts] web presentation of data

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Pablo, On 08/06/2012 07:59 PM, Pablo Garaizar Sagarminaga wrote: Hi there, El Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:43:50 -0700 Chris Albertsonalbertson.ch...@gmail.com comentaba: What you are saying is that the data needs to be rendered to a graphic locally. I think the simplest way is to create vector

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Sims
The latest versions of Lady Heather work with the Resolution T and SMT receivers. Note that the Resolution SMT receivers only work at a fixed location. The -T can be used in mobile applications. ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread DaveH
The screen sizes were the maximum resolutions of the older display technology. 640*480 was the original VGA and the 800*600 was the upgraded XVGA. Website images are generally 640*480 range with the option to click for full size. Depending on the software being used, there may be multiple

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 19D39F6978C14DE88D869CF287CAA920@photo, DaveH writes: Also, many people __still__ do not enjoy full bandwidth for their internet connections (I am one of these poor sods) and a full-size image is not polite as it takes a large chunk of bandwidth to download before the person can see if

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big isyourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread DaveH
Hi Poul Another nit is people who use JPG for graphs or line art. JPG (JPEG) = Joint Photographic Experts Group JPG is a lossy format that was designed to work well with continuous tone images. It works great with photographs. It was never intended to work with line art -- line art comes out

Re: [time-nuts] What size graphs do people like? (How big is yourscreen?)

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/06/2012 11:08 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message19D39F6978C14DE88D869CF287CAA920@photo, DaveH writes: Also, many people __still__ do not enjoy full bandwidth for their internet connections (I am one of these poor sods) and a full-size image is not polite as it takes a large chunk of