[time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
Actually, there were 2 extra pulses. Here is the PPS view: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/line/2012-Aug-09-a-pick.png (Samples every 10 seconds.) Here is the audio view: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/line/2012-Aug-09-a0.png

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread bg
Bert, Good that you got the EFC working! But I would be a bit suspicious of needing -13V. It seems from: http://www.ece.gatech.edu/academic/courses/ece4007/08fall/ece4007l01/al4/datasheets/symmetricon_oscillator_instructionsheet.pdf that the default EFC configuration is (0 to +10)V with a

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Azelio Boriani
What do you mean with it finds noise? When the PLL can no longer track the sinewave? I think that a simulator with such a behaviour must be written specifically for that capability. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.netwrote: Actually, there were 2 extra pulses.

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread EWKehren
Bjoern Thank you for the link I am able to change the frequency 4 Hz from - 2Hz ( 0V) to + 2 Hz (-12.2V) using pin 2. Reading the info that you got me probably explains the slot next to the connector, but I experience a much wider tuning range on pin 2 and John is right any positive

[time-nuts] Trimble 23632 Palisade Style GPS Receiver

2012-08-10 Thread GandalfG8
Does anyone have any idea please of the actual model name for the Trimble 23632-10 and/or 23632-20 combined antenna/receiver unit? I have seen some Ebay sellers describing these as Acutime 2000s but the case style doesn't match and they appear to be physically much more similar to the

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Bert, I see on the data sheet that the tuning voltage is supposed to be -10 to +10 volts and that the supply voltage is +22 to +30 volts. I suspect that one side of the varactor is supposed to be biased at one half of the supply voltage. But in your case, it looks like that bias is now

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
Hal, do you have a resonant 60 Hz filter in the pickoff? The waveform in Aug-09-a1 certainly had multiple zero crossings. Remote-controlled tap changers can do things like that. If I got the UTC offset right, that happened at about 2 PM local time, when a big transformer tap could have been

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread EWKehren
Ed I did not see any current, but that is also due to the fact that there is most likely at least 10 K between pin 2 and the varactor. Most likely if it was biased for instance + 12 Volt, there would also be a resistor before the diode. I suspect John is right that with my + voltage the

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
b...@iaxs.net said: Hal, do you have a resonant 60 Hz filter in the pickoff? Not by intent. It's just a wall-wart transformer and then some resistors to get the right level. There are the standard cables (wall wart, RS-232, audio, clip leads). I'm sure there are resonances in there but

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
azelio.bori...@screen.it said: What do you mean with it finds noise? When the PLL can no longer track the sinewave? I was thinking of a PLL to track the input and then a simple compare of raw input vs filtered output. If they don't match closely the difference is the noise that the PLL is

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread Mark Spencer
From slowly working my way thru several new to me datum 1000's I'm coming to the conclusion that powering them up checking for output and basic functionality (ie can the frequency be adjusted ?) followed by leaving them alone and powered up for several weeks to a month or so is probably the

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread Ed Palmer
Bert, I wasn't suggesting amps of current. A normal reverse-biased diode would give nanoamps of current flowing out. Microamps (or more) of current flowing in would show that the internal biasing of the varactor was messed up. A bad diode could also show current flowing in, but your

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread EWKehren
Ed I think so too. I hope if it is a shorted capacitor it stays but looking at for instance at the bias of a 10811. There would be no capacitor right at the diode. I have the tuning network for a 1130 and it shows a 20 K to an internal +12 V Bert In a message dated 8/10/2012 2:01:22 P.M.

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Lester Veenstra
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Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
les...@veenstras.com said: Software 60Hz PLL Yup. It probably needs an AGC too. Anybody got code I can start with? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200

2012-08-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Normally when you forward bias a varicap, nothing strange happens. The capacitance goes way up as it goes forward and then it pretty much turns into an RF short circuit. The series resistance of the device drops considerably as this all takes place. If it's in series with the crystal, the

[time-nuts] Oscillatek 5292

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Beech
Hi All, I have some Oscillatek 5292 12.000 MHz TCXO's. I am looking for the power supply and general specifications.I have tried Google with no success. Thank you in advance Gary VK2KYP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go