Re: [time-nuts] SSR-6t Connector

2012-12-22 Thread shalimr9
As long as you don't have to change the 12AU7, you are OK :) Didier KO4BB Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:18 AM

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Volker, On 12/22/2012 04:55 AM, Volker Esper wrote: Although I am dog-tired it gives me no peace... I come to the following conclusion: - The long term Allan deviation gets worse, as long, as the effect of EFC compensating is in the range of tau - But: It gets back to its normal value

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread FabioEb
I answer here to Bob Bill and Magnus. Hi I think I would grab some sort of USB thermometer and start logging the room temperature. CMOS input op-amps are a pretty good way to buffer the integrating capacitor. They are cheap and have very low bias currents. Bob The suspect is temperature,

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It is often harder to measure a pulse that goes from 0 to 100 ns than it is to measure one that goes from 100 to 200 ns. The resolution on the 0 to 100 measure will be 2X, but the non-linearities at zero are quite difficult to deal with. The 100 to 200 measure can get to the same

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Fabio, On 12/22/2012 02:34 PM, fabi...@quipo.it wrote: I answer here to Bob Bill and Magnus. Hi I think I would grab some sort of USB thermometer and start logging the room temperature. CMOS input op-amps are a pretty good way to buffer the integrating capacitor. They are cheap and have

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/22/2012 06:44 PM, Volker Esper wrote: Thank you for your statement, I have to think about it. It seems to be clear, that ADEV/MDEV aren't the convenient tools for characterizing such an event. My goal was to answere the question asked in the beginning of this thread: Does a constant

Re: [time-nuts] How it was Done - A Day in the Life of Five PPSSources..

2012-12-22 Thread Tom Miller
Thanks David. That's good to know. It's an interesting display. Regards, Tom - Original Message - From: David Martin drmar...@ivietechnologies.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:41 PM Subject: [time-nuts] How it was Done - A Day in the Life of Five

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-22 Thread Volker Esper
I wonder if the forced convection is to strong. You don't want to hit the limits of the oven control-range. Wonder if this is a long-term effect and if even small adjustment to the setup can remove the bursts of noise you are seeing. Now, some hours after switching off the fan, I'm

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: Dear Fabio, On 12/22/2012 02:34 PM, fabi...@quipo.it wrote: I answer here to Bob Bill and Magnus. Hi I think I would grab some sort of USB thermometer and start logging the room temperature. CMOS input op-amps are a pretty good way to buffer the integrating capacitor.

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 101, Issue 152

2012-12-22 Thread Volker Esper
Plot 1: MDEV of the time interval reported by GPSDO Yes, Said, that are important issues. By the way: I'm now writing in two threads, I don't know, why the original thread (Z3805A cooling requirements?) was splitted... Can we please move to the original thread? I am sure, that the noise of

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 101, Issue 152

2012-12-22 Thread Alan Melia
Volker.look at the subject line, the posting is in your hands, you dont need to just use the reply button, as somone did with a digest which forked the thread.. This means all the posing under Digest are hidden from view and searching. You can edit the subject line but this does not

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Fabio Eboli
When it comes to phase, your interpolator may also be sensitive. Dont know if I was clear enough, just in case I wasnt able to explain well before: the data I collected didnt came from the analog interpolator, but from the OutD that is a digital out. The interpolator is still in it's infancy.

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Fabio Eboli
Hello, Bruce Using saturated transistors as switches in the current source and elsewhere isn't conducive to fast switching. The traditional arrangement using current mode switches is much faster and more predictable. This is something I'd like to understand better. I'm referring to this

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Fabio taking BJTs deep into saturation stores a lot of charge in the collector base capacitance. this must br discharged before a state change can occur. LSTTL gets round this and gets the speed at lower currents by clamping the collector to only just in saturation with a schottky diode

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Tom Miller
Google baker clamp for more on this. Tom - Original Message - From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 101, Issue 152

2012-12-22 Thread Volker Esper
Thank you very much for the advice, I didn't know that at all... Volker Am 22.12.2012 22:26, schrieb Alan Melia: Volker.look at the subject line, the posting is in your hands, you dont need to just use the reply button, as somone did with a digest which forked the thread.. This means all

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One very simple question - how good would it do if you just did it all with logic gates? Tri-state buffers and things like that…. Now that you are up to a 100 to 200 ns long pulse, a lot of the fiddly stuff about can't get a 2 ns pulse through it goes away. I'm not suggesting you tear up