Re: [time-nuts] repairing General Technology (Tracor) 304-B rubidium standard

2013-02-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 19/02/13 07:36, Stewart Cobb wrote: Guys, I'm repairing a 1960's vintage lab-grade rubidium standard, General Technology Corporation model 304-B. Apparently Tracor bought GTC soon after this unit was made, because references to this as a Tracor 304-B seem to be more common. I've made some

Re: [time-nuts] repairing General Technology (Tracor) 304-B rubidium standard

2013-02-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Keep in mind that the Tracor's came out before the Teflon coated bulbs. Without the Teflon, the Rb will combine with the glass of the bulb. The ones I have seen slowly turn a black. As they darken, the light transmission drops enough to stop the standard. Since it's a chemical reaction,

[time-nuts] repairing General Technology (Tracor) 304-B rubidium standard

2013-02-19 Thread cdelect
Stewart, Tracor units use a high voltage pulse to start the lamp. You should be able to hear the relay that drives the pulse clicking around every 10 seconds or so until the lamp lights up. Tracor lamp failures are not rejuvinatable (is that really a word). However I have in the past

Re: [time-nuts] repairing General Technology (Tracor) 304-B rubidiumstandard

2013-02-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Of course, depending on the age of an Efratom lamp - it's also missing the Teflon. I've certainly replaced enough of them. Since it's a combo gas lamp, you can get away without all of the stuff in the 304 when you do the replacement. Bob -Original Message- From:

[time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread Peter Vince
On our favourite auction site is the pulse clock system used at the BBC's old World Service Radio headquarters, Bush House, in London, including a lot of units with Patek Philippe clocks! See ebay item number 140912029728. I have no connection with this item, just thought some rich member of the

Re: [time-nuts] Future of UTC 2013

2013-02-19 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2013-02-18T21:48:55 -0800, DaveH hath writ: Full details of the upcoming meeting are available via http://futureofutc.org/ Love the graphic on the website. The use of a Foucault Pendulum with Earth as the bob is inspired... Credit for the graphic goes to Pete Marenfeld at NOAO, a

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread paul swed
Nice though will have to pass today. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Peter Vince pvi...@theiet.org wrote: On our favourite auction site is the pulse clock system used at the BBC's old World Service Radio headquarters, Bush House, in London, including a lot of units with

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Peter: He's also got a larger system at item No. 140912029500 that needs some work, see the video at the bottom of each auction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=Vnqy99Kowcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siLG4fjSg3slist=UUzyU78k95mbYA-hZQZCMYIQ Have Fun, Brooke

Re: [time-nuts] repairing General Technology (Tracor) 304-B rubidium standard

2013-02-19 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Stu, Did you find the long message threads from April May of last year where I was trying to fix my 304-B? Look for Antique Rubidium Standard, General Technology Corp model 304b and Antique Rb Standard. Lots of good info from guys like Magnus Danielson, Paul Swed, Ed Breya and others.

Re: [time-nuts] repairing General Technology (Tracor) 304-B rubidium standard

2013-02-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 19/02/13 19:36, Ed Palmer wrote: Hi Stu, Did you find the long message threads from April May of last year where I was trying to fix my 304-B? Look for Antique Rubidium Standard, General Technology Corp model 304b and Antique Rb Standard. Lots of good info from guys like Magnus Danielson,

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread paul swed
Actually I guess I do have a further comment. These Pateks look cheap compared to the old hp5060 24 hour clock versions. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi Peter: He's also got a larger system at item No. 140912029500 that needs some work, see the

[time-nuts] [Fwd: [TestEquipTrader] FTS-4060 Cesium Time and Frequency Standard]

2013-02-19 Thread J. Forster
FYI, from another list. Contact OP directly, not me. -John === Original Message Subject: [TestEquipTrader] FTS-4060 Cesium Time and Frequency Standard From:Chris Howard w0ep w...@w0ep.us Date:Tue, February 19, 2013

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread J. Forster
Paul, I doubt Patek makes ANYTHING a mere mortal would call 'cheap'. YMMV, -John = Actually I guess I do have a further comment. These Pateks look cheap compared to the old hp5060 24 hour clock versions. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread paul swed
Totally agree. But the old HPs were a lot nicer looking for the $$ Still have not figured out how you would use one of those as a wrist watch. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: Paul, I doubt Patek makes ANYTHING a mere mortal would call 'cheap'. YMMV,

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread J. Forster
A desk clock is more like it. -John Totally agree. But the old HPs were a lot nicer looking for the $$ Still have not figured out how you would use one of those as a wrist watch. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: Paul, I doubt Patek makes

[time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Paul Cianciolo
Hello Folks,   I am working on a project intended to convert an analog ECG signal to a voltage proportional the heart rate, The actual electrodes instrumentation amp is pretty much working fine  so no worries there.   The problem is, and here is where the relationship to time nut comes in. The

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 04:58:04PM -0800, Paul Cianciolo wrote: Hello Folks, First, I cannot speak for the list, as I'm quite new here, but in general 'Thread Hijacking' is frowned upon :) (read: start your own thread :) I am working on a project intended to convert an analog ECG signal to a

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The first layer to the onion is that the ECG signal is a bit complex. There's also likely to be a bit of this and that on it. How about taking the output of the instrument amp into the A/D port on a cheap PIC? That would let you do some AGC and dynamic filtering. At even a modest sample

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Hal Murray
pa...@snet.net said: The actual electrodes instrumentation amp is pretty much working fine  so no worries there. My first tthought was a frequency to voltage IC like the LM2907 or the 2917 but I get the impresiion from the data sheets that these chips will not work at these very low 1 Hz

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab)
Paul, I use a picPET (http://leapsecond.com/pic/) to measure heart rate and stability; the original 1PPS... The idea is simply to time-stamp every beat and then convert that raw data to rate or period or moving average rate, etc. /tvb (iPhone4) LA On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Paul Cianciolo

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEEDBEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Tom Miller
You can buy it for $8 COTS. You clean up the QRS waveform with a one-shot then integrate to get rate. - Original Message - From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread David
The most straightforward method these days would be a small microcontroller implementing a pulse width modulation digital to analog converter. The analog route is pretty easy though. A traditional charge or current pump can operate down to 30 Hz but will have an output ripple versus settling

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Jim Lux
On 2/19/13 4:58 PM, Paul Cianciolo wrote: Hello Folks, I am working on a project intended to convert an analog ECG signal to a voltage proportional the heart rate, The actual electrodes instrumentation amp is pretty much working fine so no worries there. The problem is, and here is where the

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Tom Van Baak (Lab)
On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: pa...@snet.net said: The actual electrodes instrumentation amp is pretty much working fine so no worries there. My first tthought was a frequency to voltage IC like the LM2907 or the 2917 but I get the impresiion

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread Hendrik Dietrich
Good morning Paul, First: I almost spilled my coffe as you bear a similar last name as a guy at a national research lab who does exactly such things :) Even when it makes your ECG preamplifier free for other things, I advise you to use another sensor and put a lot of decoding and interpretation

Re: [time-nuts] Off topic project sort of heart rate monitor NEED BEATS PRE MINUTE TO ANALOG VOLTAGE

2013-02-19 Thread David Kirkby
On 20 February 2013 00:58, Paul Cianciolo pa...@snet.net wrote: The purpose of this apparatus is to print a rolling chart on the screen of a computer of heart BPM and then try different technicues of meditaion and calming technicues to lower my heart rate for short periods of time. Just a