[time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Exploratorium, timekeeping, pendulums, mirror

2013-04-20 Thread Hal Murray
For those of you who aren't familiar with it, the Exploratorium is the great grandaddy of the hands-on science museums. It was started by Frank Oppenheimer way back in 1969. Anybody nutty enough to be on the time-nuts list would have a great time there. They welcome big kids as well as

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Alec, Well done and thanks for the credit. I had not looked under the board for the crystal or spotted the divider. One comment. in your blog and ebay description you say that the unit runs on 15V. The M suffix 5650A is actually designed for a normal aircraft 28V DC supply (typical

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Alec, Well done and thanks for the credit. I had not looked under the board for the crystal or spotted the divider. One comment. in your blog and ebay description you say that the unit runs on 15V. The M suffix 5650A is actually designed for a normal aircraft 28V DC supply (typical

[time-nuts] How dies a Rubidium ?

2013-04-20 Thread Claude Fender
Hi, I would like to know if there is a way to know if a Rubidium is at his end of life or not : when it stops working, does this happen suddenly or are there percursory symptoms ? I am looking fora method that does not need to open the case (I have a 5680A and I am waiting a Racal Dana).

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread EWKehren
the DAC1220 is definitely worth a second look. Two wire opto coupling makes it even better. On my next PCB run there will be a test circuit. Thank you for the hint. Bert Kehren In a message dated 4/19/2013 9:44:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, herb...@13thfloor.at writes: On Fri, Apr 19,

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-20 Thread Alexander Wright
On 20/04/13 10:03, Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi Alec, Well done and thanks for the credit. I had not looked under the board for the crystal or spotted the divider. One comment. in your blog and ebay description you say that the unit runs on 15V. The M suffix 5650A is actually designed for a

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Alec, I'm an expert searcher ;-). I actually searched for FE-5650 and NSN (NATO Stock Number or National Stock Number to Americans) and then plugged the NSN into Webflis. There are lots of websites out there that trawl for part numbers and NSNs and then try to charge you for information that

[time-nuts] NO MIT Flea Tomorrow

2013-04-20 Thread J. Forster
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Re: [time-nuts] How dies a Rubidium ?

2013-04-20 Thread paul swed
In my experience with numbers of less expensive cel tower pulls, they blink out and re-ignite and then relock this is infrequent. But occurs more and more often. If RB is suspected of going to the darkside, I use the blink-ometer to catch this. What the heck is a blink-ometer? Simply one of those

Re: [time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Exploratorium, timekeeping, pendulums, mirror

2013-04-20 Thread Randy D. Hunt
On 4/20/2013 1:59 AM, Hal Murray wrote: For those of you who aren't familiar with it, the Exploratorium is the great grandaddy of the hands-on science museums. It was started by Frank Oppenheimer way back in 1969. Anybody nutty enough to be on the time-nuts list would have a great time there.

[time-nuts] Z38XX

2013-04-20 Thread Mark C. Stephens
I have noticed Z38XX constantly sends: :PTIME:TCODE FORM F2 Reading the documentation, this is a NVRAM command - it is supposedly written to NVRAM each time it is issued. Wouldn't this eventually wear the NVRAM out if Z38XX left running for long enough? Or perhaps it only writes when the

Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX

2013-04-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
Wouldn't this eventually wear the NVRAM out if Z38XX left running for long enough? The static format spec, not the dynamic time code, is written to NVRAM; read once per reboot. /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX

2013-04-20 Thread paul swed
Tom it would indeed wear out the NVRAM especially the vintage used in the old 3801. I think that was circa 1998? On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Wouldn't this eventually wear the NVRAM out if Z38XX left running for long enough? The static format

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread paul swed
Looked up the DAC1220 and thats a very nice chip for ~$8. Amazing 20 bit resolution and easy to hook up. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:00 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: the DAC1220 is definitely worth a second look. Two wire opto coupling makes it even better. On my next PCB run

Re: [time-nuts] pin-wheel antenna

2013-04-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
There's a very nice picture of a pinwheel from Novatel on the back cover of the March issue of GPS world.. Has anyone a digital (or scanned) copy of that picture? It's kind of difficult (i.e. impossible) to get GPS world at the shops here. If I didn't throw the issue into the recycle bin,

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread EWKehren
where did you find it for $ 8? Bert In a message dated 4/20/2013 3:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, paulsw...@gmail.com writes: Looked up the DAC1220 and thats a very nice chip for ~$8. Amazing 20 bit resolution and easy to hook up. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:00

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
I looked at the DAC1220 first, but in an EFC application it worries me to no end that it is a Sigma-Delta DAC. Even if I feed it a clock divided down from the OCXO you're EFC'ing, to avoid beatfrequency effects, I would still worry about harmonic effects and noise. Also, the noise-spec is

Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX

2013-04-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
Sorry, I misunderstood what you mean by Z38XX. I thought that meant the generic class of HP / Agilent / Symmetricom Z38xx (aka Z38* or 585*) GPS receivers, of which there are many. If you are referring instead to the freeware Windows Z38XX.exe program, then that indeed sounds like a horrible

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread David
On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:14:06 +, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: I looked at the DAC1220 first, but in an EFC application it worries me to no end that it is a Sigma-Delta DAC. Even if I feed it a clock divided down from the OCXO you're EFC'ing, to avoid beatfrequency effects, I

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 08:14:06PM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I looked at the DAC1220 first, but in an EFC application it worries me to no end that it is a Sigma-Delta DAC. Even if I feed it a clock divided down from the OCXO you're EFC'ing, to avoid beatfrequency effects, I would still

Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX

2013-04-20 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Mark, I looked in the manual, but I can't see where it says that the command is written to NVRAM. Where did you find that? Ed On 4/20/2013 11:53 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: I have noticed Z38XX constantly sends: :PTIME:TCODE FORM F2 Reading the documentation, this is a NVRAM command -

Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX

2013-04-20 Thread Mark C. Stephens
'scuse me, i am mobile at the moment, I think it was 58503 manual. But it is easy enough to prove as what one set the time format (f1 or f2) to is persistant across a power cycle. Mark Sent from my iPad On 21/04/2013, at 10:01, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: Hi Mark, I looked in

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-20 Thread paul swed
Bert I was looking at your price in the leading email. You had ~$8. So thats what I thought it was. I may have misread it sorry. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Herbert Poetzl herb...@13thfloor.atwrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 08:14:06PM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz clock distribution for the lab

2013-04-20 Thread johncroos
Just a couple of comments from a RF guy and FMT-nut 10 MHz clock distribution for the lab In the small coax cables one might consider RG-223. This is a 1/4 inch more or less diameter cable that features two concentric braided shields. Each is a very dense weave and is silver plated.

[time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Solomon
Will T-Bolt Mon work in Windows 7 ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Jackson GPSTCXO question

2013-04-20 Thread Tom Clark
I'm evaluating a Jackson GPSTCXO that was in a Symmetricom Eval Kit. It's showing impressive perfomance with just the antenna in the window. I'm using either the Z38xx or GPSCon software. Are there commands that would allow me to 1. Force the receiver to do a self-survey and/or 2. Force the

Re: [time-nuts] Jackson GPSTCXO question

2013-04-20 Thread Said Jackson
Hi Tom, Sorry, that unit is using an AMY GPS, which does not support Position Hold or Auto Survey mode. You can however set longer time constants by reducing the serv:efcs parameter if the unit is shielded from all airflow. That can reduce the ADEV at 10s to 1000s. Bye, Said Sent From