Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-05 Thread David J Taylor
Hi Chris! I have a week's worth of data now... Take a look at these graphics http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346508/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346522/ One of them shows is the plot of the loopstats of my stratum 1 server. The other one

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-05 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi David! On 5 June 2013 06:58, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Miguel, I notice a step in the blue (ntp02) graph in: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**miguelbarbosagoncalves/**8955346508/http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346508/ and I think in

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-05 Thread Hal Murray
m...@mbg.pt said: I believe something has happened but not on my side. The offset for ntp02 changed its sign but kept the absolute value. That sort of change can happen when the routing changes. Keep watching and see if it switches back or switches to yet another offset. If you have

[time-nuts] Dave Partridge Version 2 Full Board available

2013-06-05 Thread James Robbins
I have a spare new unused, fully populated, Version 2 Frequency Divider board by Dave Partridge for sale. Price is $80 plus $5.85 shipping (my cost was $98). Offering it here before placing on Ebay. Jim Robbins, N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Dave Partridge Version 2 Full Board available

2013-06-05 Thread David C. Partridge
While on this subject, if anyone should want me to, I am quite happy to put the Gerbers for the PCB on my website. Regards, David Partridge -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of James Robbins Sent: 05 June 2013 13:06 To:

[time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

2013-06-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, There used to be a PDF around with details of pin-out and modifications for the Z3815A. I fail to locate it at any of the usual places, including google, Didier, TVB, Brooke etc... I fail to find it in any of my archives as well. I would appreciate if someone could share a

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

2013-06-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are two very different 3815's out there. One comes in a nice box with rational connectors on it. (They are expensive). The other one is the plug in card that always seems to need a good scrub down. It appears to have the same stuff but connecting to it is not easy. These are about 1/2 to

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

2013-06-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 06/05/2013 11:16 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi There are two very different 3815's out there. One comes in a nice box with rational connectors on it. (They are expensive). The other one is the plug in card that always seems to need a good scrub down. It appears to have the same stuff but connecting

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

2013-06-05 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Magnus, Just plug 18-60V into P10 (next to the GPS), Supposedly the input power is steered by diodes so it is polarity insensitive. Anyway, It's a standard connector, I am sure you have tons of them, On mine, Pin 1 is wired to negative, Pin 2 to positive. Pin2 is closest to the left edge looking

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 9.8Mhz Sa.22c's

2013-06-05 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Talking about punishment, I pulled the old 9390 out yesterday and plugged it in. Up the GPS came, but after 8 hours, still no lock LED. (the lock LED is directly connected to Mr. Balls FRK). So I thought, bugger, Well I have the Jig made up, I'll have a look at it on the bench. So I removed it

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 9.8Mhz Sa.22c's

2013-06-05 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
I think I have a acquaintance in USA that can maybe help but the shipping is going to kill me to death.. More so than buying a bunch of never-ending projects? One question -- it seemed that you had gotten to a place where the (one of the?) 9390(s) seemed to be more or less working, but the

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 9.8Mhz Sa.22c's

2013-06-05 Thread David McGaw
I hadn't thought about the uA739 for a while. It was one of the original low-noise amps - we used to use it for phono preamps. Re: glass piston caps, I have been able to sometimes get what I need from Surplus Sales of Nebraska

[time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Didier Juges
I just got my Net4501 which I would like to turn into an NTP server. I saw John's description, but at the moment, I would like to try without using the high stability CPU oscillator option, just the PPS from one of my Thunderbolts. Is that even worthwhile? Will the high resolution built-in

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 9.8Mhz Sa.22c's

2013-06-05 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
David wrote: I hadn't thought about the uA739 for a while. It was one of the original low-noise amps - we used to use it for phono preamps. If you could live with the anemic output drive, they were great opamps for the time. I preferred the 749, which had an open-collector output (no 5k

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Mike S
On 6/5/2013 6:51 PM, Didier Juges wrote: without using the high stability CPU oscillator option, just the PPS from one of my Thunderbolts. Is that even worthwhile? Will the high resolution built-in counters of the Elan processor be useful without the external oscillator compared to a plain

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

2013-06-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Well if the Z3815 boxes are all fakes, they did a *really* good job on making up all the HP logo's and HP stickers. They even faked the right date codes for the add on stickers. They also did a very nice job with the custom cables that plug directly into everything. Bob On Jun 5, 2013,

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Hal Murray
shali...@gmail.com said: I just got my Net4501 which I would like to turn into an NTP server. I saw John's description, but at the moment, I would like to try without using the high stability CPU oscillator option, just the PPS from one of my Thunderbolts. Is that even worthwhile? Will the

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Hal Murray
mi...@flatsurface.com said: I haven't really looked into it further, there may be an NTP tweak which forces a shorter time constant. minpoll, maxpoll -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Mike S
On 6/5/2013 10:33 PM, Hal Murray wrote: mi...@flatsurface.com said: I haven't really looked into it further, there may be an NTP tweak which forces a shorter time constant. minpoll, maxpoll Polling interval is different than update interval. From a FAQ at ntp.org: Recent versions of ntpd

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Albertson
In real life all the users of your NTP server will be network connected. So even if your server's offset stays within a picosecond you users have to go over Ethernet to access it and in the end the time they get will have microsecond level accuracy. So other than bragging rights what do you get

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Mike S
On 6/5/2013 11:14 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: So other than bragging rights what do you get with a picosecond level NTP server? You're posting to the wrong list. :-) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Net4501

2013-06-05 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: However if you can replace the CPU clock with a time nuts grade standards referenced clock then the net4501 can be possibly one of the best NTP servers out there. But this can be said about any computer. If you can completely remove the temperature issue NTP

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

2013-06-05 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Bob, I am shocked! Are you Trolling?! To Quote Stuart Cobb, posted to this very list on 29th May, 2013: The Z3815A I got from China was in a different case, just two bent pieces of sheet aluminum. The case _looks_ official, with the right label on the front and silkscreen on the back. But