Re: [time-nuts] Cutler NAA on 24.0kHz....

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
Nat Semi App Note 72 page 18, par. 6.4 shows the configuration for bandpass active filter. This matches the last LM3900 stage, so you would seem to be correct. The shift in filter frequency for 200bps is because the higher modulation rate results in a greater frequency shift. It's like 50hz

[time-nuts] Mc Coy OCXO in HP equipment.

2014-08-18 Thread EWKehren
I am presently downsizing and that has also resulted in shrinking my HP 70 000 series spectrum analyzer. Out with the 70310A OCXO reference. The unit has a McCoy OSC92-13B OCXO. The original price was $ 5000 and the option with out OCXO was a $ 2500 saving. Some OCXO. Does any one have any

Re: [time-nuts] Cutler NAA on 24.0kHz....

2014-08-18 Thread paul swed
I may build up the d-msk-r tracor circuit. I seriously speculate it works as follows. Tracor down converts NAA's signal to a 100 Hz IF. The NAA signal is plus and minus 50 Hz msk or FSK Making the mark 50 Hz and space 150 Hz. (Really don't know whats mark or space nor does it matter) The tracor

Re: [time-nuts] Cutler NAA on 24.0kHz....

2014-08-18 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Paul wrote: Nat Semi App Note 72 page 18, par. 6.4 shows the configuration for bandpass active filter. This matches the last LM3900 stage, so you would seem to be correct. The shift in filter frequency for 200bps is because the higher modulation rate results in a greater frequency shift.

[time-nuts] MH370 Doppler

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Leikhim
Is anyone paying attention to all the chatter about the lost aircraft MH370, Inmarsat's supposed flight tracks based on 6 or 7 pings (1 per hour), the Doppler shift (BFO) and transaction timing (BTO) etc?? Basically from my perspective they are putting too much stock into the Doppler which

Re: [time-nuts] MH370 Doppler

2014-08-18 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
I thought that Inmarsat terminals had AFC to the sat's down-link. Not to the degree of true phase-lock like DSN has but enough so that the sat's abillity to do doppler correction on the uplink is valid to help with BER, etc... Otherwise the doppler correction would be of no help and not be

[time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Fwd: MH370 Doppler

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Leikhim
Because of the bent pipe transponder there is a doppler shift on the uplink from the terminal in the aircraft and doppler on the downlink from the satellite. Each has to be calculated differently because of the relative motion of the satellite (to ground station and aircraft) and the gross

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Fwd: MH370 Doppler

2014-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 53f268cf.80...@leikhim.com, Joe Leikhim writes: My point is that, all of the discussion I have read ignores the possibility that [...] The major point being ignored is that the terminal in the plane does a signon after approx 45-60 minutes (can't remember exact duration --

Re: [time-nuts] MH370 Doppler

2014-08-18 Thread David I. Emery
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 04:18:30PM -0400, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: I thought that Inmarsat terminals had AFC to the sat's down-link. Not to the degree of true phase-lock like DSN has but enough so that the sat's abillity to do doppler correction on the uplink is valid to help with BER, etc...

Re: [time-nuts] Mc Coy OCXO in HP equipment.

2014-08-18 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
I am just speculating that this oscillator was used instead of the 10811 because the 10811 would not fit. Therefore, it would NOT be used in other equipment. I would guess the specs would be similar to the 10811. The 70,000 series had some general purpose power bus that the McCoy would have to

Re: [time-nuts] DIY FE-5680A lobotomy (disable temp compensation)

2014-08-18 Thread Angus
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 02:35:41 +0100, you wrote: Hi Bert, I am thinking about testing a heat pipe on a fan cooled setup I use. The first temp controlled chassis I did used a peltier and works very well, but was a lot more work to do and is much more power hungry. The main problem I find is not