Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Thermal fuse?

2014-09-03 Thread David McGaw
Let's try this again: They are HP/Agilent/Keysight PN 10811-80008. I was actually able to buy a couple from Agilent a few years ago. They are listed as obsolete now. A Panasonic EYP2BH115 should fit. Newark has them. David On 9/2/14 8:05 PM, Dave Daniel wrote: I believe a thermal

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Thermal fuse?

2014-09-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In all the years I’ve been doing this, there have been a *lot* of posts and observations about that fuse failing. The number of reports / observations of that fuse doing what it is supposed to do (protect a failed controller) have been virtually zero. By far the easiest “replacement” is a

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Phase Noise Measurement in Primitive Conditions

2014-09-03 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A lot depends on how good your OCXO is. 1) With a typical OCXO, the 1 second tau should be around 2x10^-11 against a typical Rb. You are limited by the Rb. 2) With a good reference and OCXO the 1 second tau should be about 10X better than that (2x10^-12). 3) With some OCXO’s you can do

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Thermal fuse?

2014-09-03 Thread David McGaw
Actually, in the unit in which the fuse had opened, it had protected the unit when the thermistor failed open. Having seen this happen, I recommend it be replaced. The Panasonic part is 63 cents. David On 9/3/14 7:33 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi In all the years I’ve been doing this, there

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Thermal fuse?

2014-09-03 Thread John Miles
-Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David McGaw Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Thermal fuse? Actually, in the unit in which the

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Thermal fuse?

2014-09-03 Thread Dan Rae
On 9/3/2014 12:23 PM, John Miles wrote: Was the oven in a runaway condition? Like Bob, I've never seen a situation where the thermal fuse has actually done anything useful. It seems like the inner oven will go into full-blown China Syndrome before the thermal fuse on the far side of the

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

2014-09-03 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Chris, Sorry for a delayed reply. The OSA 3210 is one of the only cesium standards I don't have in the museum. I've seen one or two on eBay over the past decade but not in worthwhile condition. I hope you can get yours working. If not, let me know... The good news is that I have an